i remember that our program is not news, we record it in advance and go out on a weekly basis. we don't compete with news releases. we talk about what made ukraine the way we know it today, the typical and, of course, the peculiar path that little russia went through in the ussr ukraine before it ended up at the current point. that's what we're interested in, we hope that it's interesting for you, and that's what we'll talk about today. the victim complex and the myth evade the past. why does ukraine need this manipulation with history as a way national self-assertion we understand together with the expert of the program a man with a stone and women ukrainian trace in the history of soviet films. in today's ukraine, in

the formation of the very political nation that the ideologists of integral ukrainian nationalism dreamed of. it is difficult to imagine without a victim complex, the essence of it is simple, there was no such time in history, say the theorists of political ukrainianism, that ukrainians would not be enslaved and oppressed, it all started back in the nineties with school textbooks written emigrants and their descendants from canada there is the whole history of the existence of ukrainian territories. these are short episodes of the struggle for independence, which are replaced by long years of oppression and suffering oppressed. all the polish gentry , muscovites, catholics, german invaders and soviet regimes penultimately experienced holodomor repression, and chernobyl in recent history, even before the maidans, was oppressed by local oligarchs and pro-russian authorities. in fashionable

western historical research, ukrainians were instilled with the idea of ​​their almost thousand-year colonial past, and ukraine itself, which did not exist on the map, as a state until the beginning of the 20th century, unexpectedly became a victim of the imperial colonial policy of russia, but in fact, even in pre-soviet times, a typical colony, austrian-polish was ukrainian galitsa, present-day western ukraine in russian little russians of the empire, and then ukrainians were part of the titular nation and were part of the ruling elite, the razumovsky brothers from the land-poor dnieper cossacks, the elder became a film general, a marshal, a junior president russian academy of sciences, chancellor, empire, bezborodka and kochubey merchants, some industrial pre-revolutionary oligarchs, kharitonenko.

and tereshchenko is all from little russians, the chairman of the third and fourth state dumas of russia, mikhail radzianka, spoke from the poltava centurion ivan ranzyanka. and vasily shulgin, a descendant of the cossack shulgi of kiev, accepted the abdication of nicholas ii from the throne. such career ups and life scenarios were simply unthinkable for ukrainians in caste galicia, the ukrainian concept of colonial slavery and the victim complex formed the basis of myths about the long path of ukrainians to freedom through the maidan, which should lead to the formation of a ukrainian political nation. and those who do not want such freedom. they are just victims of imperial propaganda, slaves with a colonial consciousness, and they have no place in independent ukraine. a suitcase station

in russia about how ukrainian politicians manipulated the victim complex at different times, and what anna efimova managed to achieve in the plot europeans about suffering and victims of ukraine, who took the blow of putin's russia such performances in recent months old europe has been navigating a lot, while in independence both sides of the conflict are fighting on the streets of european cities. bloggers, theatrically scatter and allegedly at the sound of gunshots, and lay down on the ground to stare piercingly at others in a stagge, having previously grabbed pillows and a blanket. what exactly is germany, being

still the locomotive of the european economy. took on the main burden of supporting ukraine in the economic, financial and military spheres. at the same time, the population of ukraine is forming a request that they are owed everything. actually , they broadcast it, when they get to western countries as refugees. they do not behave like people who need help, who demand this help go deep into the past. back in the years of the civil war, grushevsky, for example, actively promoted the historical myth about the student martyrs who fell in battles with the bolsheviks, but in fact , all this later became simply abandoned by the command of the unr the content of textbooks in the new independent ukraine in the early nineties is the whole story. settled on the myth that ukraine, ukrainians suffer all their lives in an unequal struggle with these very muscovites,

which yuri dolgoruky started against them. they will say with geese that, of course, the donbass was at one time, specially killed in the thirties of the famine, so that the muscovite population would come to replace it after gaining independence is a new national idea. the famine became the tragic events of the thirties of the last century, when in the arable regions of the ussr, not only in ukraine but also in the kuban, in the north caucasus, the volga region of belarus and even in siberia, millions of peasants died of hunger, in the independence of our days they began to consider the goals of a directed policy of genocide. in relation to the great individual ukrainian people, suffering was exported in the center of washington . a monument was even erected to the victim of the holodomor, and each of the ukrainian presidents considers it his duty to take over this famine-stricken baton, and all in front of the eyes of the

communists who rode over our corpses. apologists for holodomorokhinocide. we can’t all be forgotten on the shield of ukrainian propaganda. the so-called massacre in baturin was also raised, an event during the northern war, when, after the betrayal of mazepa, he went over to the side of the swedes. peter gave the order to burn the headquarters of the corrupt hetman. and let there be no real evidence of numerous victims and convinced babies. historians did not find the psychological effect was achieved retelling the events of centuries ago in a modern way. they bore fruit, even in the highest echelons of power it came to anecdotal situations. when in 2005 they wanted to lower the price for e, respectively for oil and e, this negotiator demanded that he was the very leader of kun, that is, the congress of ukrainian nationalists. he demanded that they give him an interpreter, and in

response, they told him not to need an interpreter, they wrote a figure four times as large and then , so to speak, under his breath, he came with it. and when asked, it went public with her they asked, what were you thinking about at that moment, when such conditions were set, he said, i was thinking about batur. and that's what the leadership of the donetsk miner was thinking about, which this year firmly decided to be ukrainians at the world cup not quite, it's clear, nevertheless, in the official account of the clubs. they are on twitter long before the start of the championship. persistent proposals appeared in the frame to remove iran, which is not friendly to ukraine, from participating in the world cup. by the way, iran won admission there in a fair sports fight. e, in passing in their groups. but ukraine failed to do this. but after all, they not only demanded iran in the country. below, i also wanted this place to be given to ukraine , however, as the example of president

zelensky shows, it is possible to build a good business on the image of the offended and oppressed in the fall . previously allocated to kiev and while one part of the western public is outraged by uncontrolled cash injections into ukraine others, concerned about the issue. why, in the very heart of europe, the la scala theater does not politically correct open the new season with a production of boris godunov by the russian composer mussorgsky, and among the audience, the chairman of the european commission, ursula fondder. by the way, the poster caressed the nutcracker and swan lake. so serious passions can flare up and who knows whose side will win in the end, it may very well be that the next season will please the discerning european listener, for example, until so widely known, but very

ukrainian opera anna efimova valery savelyev anastasia popova typical ukraine about why in ukraine they constantly talked about the difficult colonial past and cultivated the image of the victim. we will talk with our permanent expert historian alexander vasiliev. sasha good afternoon. hello in general in nationalist mythology, as a rule, cultivates the image of the hero the image of success. and why in ukraine they suddenly started talking about the victim, as the main content, well, ukrainian history, it seems to me, that is a whole whole complex of factors, but one of them is that this one, and the image of the victim, he gives such a universal, well, moral induction for any action. well, here is an example

of events. uh, in the thirtieth year in western ukraine, the region at that time was part of poland, so the second commonwealth ruled there. a sudsky pankil, right? it was a dictator, a very tough authoritarian regime. uh, with obvious fascist even elements. that is, of course, the ukrainians had a hard time living there. and that means, uh, they fought against him, ukrainian nationalists. yes, and olun, but only just now, which arose at that moment, it means that they attacked the polish peasants. there , village houses were set on fire, people were killed, terrorist attacks were carried out against polish politicians , terrorist attacks were carried out against ukrainian politicians who were trying to build some kind of loyal relationship. uh, solve these problems politically. and that's it, that's all . uh, so to speak, polyakov got it and right before the elections, by the way, in e. soem, e, they staged a very tough punitive action in the form of police units, many the value was given. uh, additional military contingents or whole villages there were surrounded by searches. well, it was directly

very, very harshly called pacification, died of mariinium, which means, well, and ukrainian, first of all, devilry, because then there was a game in germany in lithuania, it must be said in other countries and in europe in britain about this guardian, for example, wrote became a whole information company. look what the poles are doing. uh, rudeness and so on and so on and so forth. here but if you look, yes, then according to the results, even according to ukrainian data, according to polish official data, there are fewer things. but according to ukrainian data , seven people died for this most cruel punitive action. yes, but then, when the volyn massacre was organized under the guidance of the mind, that is, just genocide, they directly referred to the fact that we are victims of falsification. well, how would you understand. well, people got so emotional, they accidentally cut tens of thousands of their neighbors, well, fast forward to today, when recently one of the, uh, well-known human rights organizations, together with international, has downed

the ukrainian armed forces for violating the rules of war. well, essentially. uh, i didn’t say that directly, but i hinted at the well- known, which the armed forces of ukraine , uh, are conducting on their own territory. yes , as at least, as it is declared, then zelensky, in an emotional outburst, kept repeating, ukraine is a victim, ukraine is a victim. like, we can't be. eh, with those we cannot do what we are ordered to do. we are always just a victim. why does he tell the west all the time about this? yes , of course, you know, it sounded like this, well, somehow even itself is revealing. that is, just in such a tone as it was repeated, like a mantra like a spell, and uh, i must say that the western audience. yes, remember, we are the victims. yes , western audience the fact is that they are very susceptible to this spell. simply due to, uh, closely, let's say, ideological cultural processes that are taking place in the very west, and there, even in the social

sciences, there is a whole industry such as victimology. yes, that is, this is the study of this topic of sacrifice from different people. in social psychology, this is being studied very actively and there is such a concept condemned in the west, widely condemned. and as vic templaying, that is, blaming the victim, yes, when some kind of crime is committed there is sexual violence. yes, the victim is blamed, what they say put on a short skirt, then she herself is to blame, right? and this complex of psychology and social psychology and the relationship of people, it is actively transferred to politics. and how would it be implied that, well, it's the same the same thing yes, and therefore that side of e, which e acts with the position of the victim, and she, respectively, e does not bear any responsibility at all. for whatever their actions are popular. ah, western philosophers. glory zhizhik. he even regardless , he supports ukraine well, as it should be, and so on, but uh,

regardless of current events, he once had such, and the syntemium formula, what is in modern western society, huh? you can claim power only from the position of the victim. here, in fact, it opens. but if the creation of this image of the victim, today in ukraine is just a political technique, then the real victim of the military conflict in ukraine is also a real victim of the military conflict in ukraine. of course, uh, of course, the civilian population. the ukraine is a victim of this war of this conflict beyond any doubt. yes, uh, and we, as it were, express, so to speak, well, sympathy for the ukrainian society. there is always a radical force that even carries its own ideologies with the idea that it is necessary to make sacrifices for the sake of ukraine. you need to donate. the truth is to sacrifice. they prefer, as a rule, not with them. yes

. but, if we look at the demographics because of various sociological studies, otherwise we will see how the percentage of russians has seriously fallen. yes, in the general composition of the population of ukraine , the number of russians is almost halving, it is steadily decreasing, simply by millions of people, where have these people gone, nobody asks this question, but these people have become victims of the aggressive policy of assimilation policy, which ukraine led and which eventually led to uh, the current conflict, the scale of which is simply expanding. eh, since then. do i understand correctly that, uh, they are grazing, uh, ukrainians are really victims, but the victims are those politicians who, starting from uh, the middle. eh, in the tenth years they did everything to ensure that

there was no peace in ukraine, so that it would be impossible to agree on it. yes, of course, uh, here, uh, it is important to understand that u are the fatality of russophobic politics. anti-russian politics it was obvious and in ukraine very many people spoke about it. yes, that even well, it is not necessary to love russia there, but for purely pragmatic purposes to go into conflict with it. and we were in constant conflict. yes, and hmm , that's suicidal. this is simply suicidal and moreover, uh, we remember uh, the speech of the american president george w. bush at the dawn of ukrainian independence, he warned the deputies. from which, from the most murderous nationalism, everyone understood everything. yes, it just might be, but some less responsible politicians were in washington who realized that this suicidal nationalism can certainly use e for their own purposes. so

, talk about it. well, i repeat, you need to talk about this, and as if in response, e did not hear the entire tape. here in this very accusation of the victim and so on. thank you very much sasha for a detailed interesting story. two vivid images, two symbols of soviet monumental sculpture of the twenties and thirties. this is a man who is ready to fight for the new world even with a cobblestone and a naked girl, a symbol of freedom and gender equality in a young in the soviet republic, she naturally leans on an oar, a cobblestone, the weapon of the proletariat and a girl with an oar - these are the legendary works of the soviet sculptor ivan shadr more amazing. in total, their fates took shape in ukraine, and in these stories there is

something very typical of the present time, the proletarian. with a cobblestone shadr made of plaster in 1927, it became a symbol. first russian revolution of 905. the original is stored in the tretyakov gallery, the tension of the struggle in the whole figure, the relief plasticity of the body, the strong-willed facial features conveyed that he put his sculpture on a par with the ancient discus thrower of myron and michelangelo's david and pooh and the revival after the death of ivan shadr began to be cast in bronze. the name of the monument has become a household name; one of them was erected in kiev in 1982. the monument was dedicated to the friendship of the workers of the podolsky district and the krasnopresnensky

district of moscow. maidan began to remind of the times when kiev was not friends with muscovites soon it was the square the fate of the shadrinskaya girl with an oar, who ended up in the ukrainian voroshilovgrad in today's luhansk, is somewhat different, but in its own way also very typical. immediately he was fond of singing and acting and painting, but in the early twenties of the last century, he left all his hobbies and focused exclusively on culture, the images he created. these are strong-willed active emotional heroes ready to fight and overcome one of the main components, and

the shadra sculptor is a skill. uh, very expressive to convey dynamic movement. sometimes. he even hmm refused to follow the rules of anatomy in order to emphasize his main idea, the main content of the image in 1934, by order of the central park of culture and leisure in moscow, ivan shadra began to create a girl with a paddle. a student of the moscow institute of physical education became a model for culture . vera voloshina noticed her shadr during training. on jumping into the water, the further fate of vera was tragic. the very first days of the war she went to the front and died together with zoya kosmodemyanskaya almost on the same day they were hanged. uh, since they served in the same partisan detachment and were captured at the same time, and in 1935 a girl with an oar made of reinforced concrete,

patinated in bronze, was installed on the main thoroughfare of the park in the center with a fountain, very realistic, smiling in a relaxed pose. she confused the public, the year when the sculpture of the girl svetlyom was installed in gorky park e. hosted the summer season in the commission of joseph steel and when he saw a naked figure nine meters high in the center of the alley after the main entrance. he said, this is what needs to be removed. no one will go further, the sculpture is exiled to ukrainian voroshilovgrad why it is not known for certain, perhaps thanks to klim voroshilov, a native of those parts of the ussr at that time, or maybe because in august 1936, a similar park of culture and recreation was opened there, also named after gorky for us for luhansk it was a wonderful gift, by the way, she was sent by e, with the consent of the shadr itself, the

girl is light. yes, it was the most significant such dominant sculpture in our park. and the park itself has become a big event for the dusty and smoky steppe industrial city lugan-chanin, the future author of evenings near moscow. mikhail matusovsky devoted two poems to its discovery. a beautiful park, located on thirty hectares and in many ways not inferior to the capital, was the brainchild of alexander stepanovich, one of the main projects of the architect alexander sheremet, and thanks to his diligence to his great talent and human qualities. he was a great organizer. he e days and nights was tuning. everyone saw his enthusiasm and in 1937 he was appointed to the position of chief architect of the city and in this position. he has worked for over 30 years. at first, a girl with

an oar was installed in the same way as in moscow in a large fountain, but the height of the sculpture on the pedestal did not correspond to its size, and then alexander sheremet moved the figure to the grotto, where she, as it were, went down a couple of steps lower, to the shadr who arrived in lugansk the transformation was to his liking and, as a token of gratitude, he presented his luhansk colleague with a book, vitruvius about architecture, alas, but already in the next thirty-seventh year, the sculpture of ivan shadr disappeared from lugansk park until now, local historians cannot find an explanation for this, another girl appeared in her place with an oar also from the moscow scooter ramuald, and a duck, and this figure was already in a bathing suit, and in moscow for the pedestals of the fountain. gorky park ivan shadr created another version already from a different model of the second e, the variant is, of course, more elegant and the girl in life represents slightly different proportions. a. well, indeed, it is closer to other

soviet cultures now. a fragment of the second version of the sculpture is presented, just at the exhibition in the new tretyakov gallery, this shadra girl, according to one version, stood in moscow gorky park until the end of the fifties, sculpture in lugansk was so unlucky during the great patriotic war. this park was almost completely destroyed. but there were beautiful sculptures, beautiful fountains, besides everything other things , it was not possible to restore the park in all its splendor, neither in the soviet period nor in the ukrainian period. surprisingly, it was in a difficult time for the city that after the events of 2014, lugansk residents revived their gorky park and in 2019, a girl with a shadrovsky paddle appeared again in it the authors viktor gorbulin and roman manulov chose their contemporary olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev typical, ukraine as a model. that's all we

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