i am immersed in what russian life is in itself, and without a serious understanding of what orthodoxy is and what the church is, this is simply impossible. this is a cultural code. true, this may be a muslim or may be an atheist or an agnostic, but this does not mean that you should not read tolstoy dostoevsky at the same time, and the gospels are this book above all this, from which all these rivers of the russian cultural code are already pouring forth, so this is normal and the actors of mikhalkov a play mainly the prose of chekhov bunin a-a, it seems to you that not studies orthodoxy, not understanding what, for example, the liturgy is difficult to play these works, these works were written by their authors at a time when the church now

you know, here we had the relationship of the church with society a long time ago, and you have a program called the church and we i don't like either name or the other, because there is a division in them, as if the church itself, but the society itself, but i don't think so. so how is the church? this is society, really. it also consists of people people. eh, and chekhov and bunin and their characters lived at a time when the church and society were not divided even on paper, and man, e man, any then, who had become obsolete in one way or another, most of the orthodox and definitely preceded by many generations of orthodox ancestors. true, it is more difficult with you, i don’t know if you had orthodox ancestors. here i have three generations ahead, but of course, the repentance of my mother, that's her. eh, now, thank god, it's

different, and that's her christian life for the last decades. this is one conversation. yes, this one me three or four generations. people did not know at all that god this is one context, and the other end, when you live in this, when the words of the liturgy the sacrament uh, christian church holidays form the basis of your being for you hmm, your very being is surrounded by this, of course, you m -m. you don't just absorb this and you have a certain language. you have certain relationships, certain understanding, mm and inner language, but such communication between people. it's built on this. you can't get away from this. if you don't you know, you don't understand the russian chekhov bunin's man. we talked with you last time, and serials about errors are serials of the

modern five percent and about god so these errors. they are inevitable, because society does not live neither by god nor by the church, it does not know at all and understands this, therefore mistakes, therefore there must be some kind of censorship so that it looks beautiful at least. where to? well, let's say culturally, chekhov writes his story student remember, when a student went hunting there, he got lost in the fields and i recalled how, er, the betrayal of the apostle peter , this gospel night by the fire. he, too, warmed himself with someone, a wonderful story by chekhov e. no one needs to explain why this association arose for a student, that is, this is the life of a russian person in these evangelical circumstances, well, religion used to be in passports here , it’s not the faith of confession that is done here, that e everything around you. eh, i somehow saw it filled with this, surprisingly it shocked me, almost the thirty-seventh year of the soviet calendar, 30,

yes, here's something like that, and not even thirty, the fourth. there. this is exactly the 37th soviet calendar and there they remain red in the calendar. noted. christian holidays are amazing, despite what a persecution of the church has been going on for 20 years, well , the worst thing is coming. and yes, you can’t go anywhere , because the people still live indestructibly by this, father dmitry you said three generations were people who did not believe. as i understand it, atheists many people know your mother, as actress ekaterina vasilyeva loves films with her participation, but not many people know. and why did she take this path, and how did it happen in your family? here, this is a meeting with god, which is why it began a long-standing meeting, because not through priests , first through all sorts of dissident

characters, having come in large numbers. something here from abroad any trubetskoy. here, in particular , through the minsk boat, which my mother introduced. for the first time with a priest, mother had never seen a living priest in her life before, in general, a living priest was a rarity at that time. so then my mother was baptized, then she baptized me a little unconsciously, but nevertheless less. this is what began to rise up, that self-consciousness that we are talking to you, yes, which cannot be destroyed, even if there are two generations in front of you, for example, or one unbelieving people. this one sits too deep. here, and then slowly, like most people, a long path of churching. that's what led her eventually to monasticism. she had long wanted conscious monasticism. i mean, it

was just technically difficult. that's what i'm often asked now. and what does mom do in the monastery, pray and that's it. i say why is she there it was still her dream it was the dream of the last thirty years of her life, definitely not, she realized her dream. i think this is normal. if i watched now, i probably wouldn't have made up my mind, why? because it 's a very difficult matter. how do you not make sense? not in the sense of labor or some sleepless nights of experiences? in the sense of conformity , it happens that you wear something to an artist. you know it's difficult. it’s already difficult for an actress to try on some kind of image for herself, complex and not all images. true, you carry it easily, here is not an image, but some

such an ultra-modern language, like a super weapon, or what? some dress you up. and you've never been in a fight. you're talking about something else, and here, all in such brilliant armor under the armor, the heart is such a miserable knock-knock-knock-knock. here it does not correspond most of all to destroy you family. children. and what is the future? as you see it in russia, i really hope that sooner or later quantity will turn into quality. i hope that this will be the case, i can’t say that i see it yet, but again, yes, a perfectionist. i always want more. i know many monks but i don't know many monks. here are 2-3 people, maybe

, well, from what i would like to see how, as a monk, a monk is not a title. this is not the position of a monk. it's just that this is a christian who most accurately felt what christianity is, more precisely, understood everything what the gospel is and most accurately tries to fulfill it, and a person who is looking for christ as the holy church said. he cannot find christ yet. he will not see christ in another person, and this should be obvious, because he is not christ in clothes. he told me even in all there the splendor or beauty of worship he is in man. so i see the future of russian monasticism in such a way that it will give us husbands with faith and strength and reason, so that these peasants by their existence without words, without discussions and without disputes of opinions. prove the rightness of the gospel here we are reading the work of tolstoy

dostoevsky well, we know their biographies and, as it were, a trip of a meeting with an old man. it was such a normal business, like going to the doctor? today, this institute of eldership, if it can be called that at all, is in our country. unfortunately, it seems to me that it is coming to naught. what is the reason for this is not time, it is not e startsev of such magnitude. no, those who can hear. forgive this sharply, of course here. it seems to me that this is the main reason. because i think there is. i don't know, i'd be told a secret, of course not. e such obvious uh sizes, a peasant, like father kirill pavlov, but

he tells me that there is, but they just hide. that's because today, unfortunately, everything is so little demanded, a person runs to the elder, because he is not truly christ's needed. here's something like that. well, compared to a true cross, something small, but the elders are not for this, and not for this, too, of course, as comforters, but this is not why they testify otherwise. and in this sense, they are necessary. well, that is, people are looking for this speaking in english. that is, a quick solution to your problems. yes, yes, you know, it disappears completely. we have a deep memory of the times. of the soviet union, when even to your surprise it means that there were orthodox dates in the calendar in the soviet union holidays? in soviet reality, we

existed with an ideology, but without the church , the church, priests, and so on were caricatured. today we live with the church. the president goes to services on big holidays. but the thirteenth article of the constitution enshrined a ban on ideology. and just recently, the patriarch spoke about the fact that it would be nice to return the ideology in our country, firstly, do you agree with this or not? do we need an official ideology. and if so, what could it be? need a russian man. what should she be? i am don't know. uh, 30 years, we are looking for this ideology. so far haven't been able to find it. i think that a person

or a community of people, researchers, sketch institute, some wise men gathered all together, if they come up with it, they will write it down. an ideology that would suit everyone today. that nobel prize, of course, no one will give, because we are now in a difficult relationship with the nobel prize, but some kind of great prize, the greatest that can be given to them right from emeralds. it will be necessary to give very difficult in an interview with vladyka tikhon shevkunov. and well, he brought it, as it were, to comparing the ideology that is now in ukraine and, in his opinion, it is clearly attractive to ukrainians, and it works ukraine c and europe, but according to the same

vladyka tikhon, it would not fit for us, because in the dna of a russian orthodox person and europe equals comfort comfort. it cannot be final, which means that a russian person does not live for this purpose. but i have a question. maybe the problem is that we do not have an ideology, what we are looking for in very high realms in the big worlds, maybe formulate something simple close understandable to everyone. you are asking me a very provocative question. katya here. i don't even think i'm ready to talk about this topic. i'll tell you honestly. so i could say that m-m russian people will not agree to anything low, therefore, he needs high and agree in this sense sweet and quiet. here but i have only one reservation about the

russian people. i think that before you can find an ideology for a russian person, you need to find a russian person. it is very important. here i belong to a small group. i am not a historian. true, in general i was an educated person, but thinking people. who believe that, for example, that until we return to the question of where the russian land came from, and roughly speaking to the middle ages to russian. here we will not understand who we are, inhabiting this land, speaking this language. until we find out who we are. we cannot, of course, formulate an ideology for ourselves. and most importantly, if

we understand who we are, maybe there will be no need to formulate an ideology, because that it has already been formulated 1.500 million times. something like this, i would answer. well, at your lectures i will quote you again. and say that western civilization is for a russian person. very dangerous. we also call it protestant, that is, you oppose the western christian tradition, the so-called russian tradition. here, perhaps, in this difference, there is some grain of rostock yes from the definition that we do not need to understand that we need the protestant, what we call the protestant tradition, these are traditions. here and in this sense, we are more living people. that's the lecture you mention, for

sure. i told you, in the remarkable opinion, of the priest alexander elchaninov, who at one time studied while living abroad there in exile. uh, the differences between catholicism and orthodoxy, he remarkably says that uh, catholics believe in the church as an organization. and we believe in the church as in an organism. you know, for some reason, i now remembered the avatar movie, which i have been revisiting with my children for a long time. it is about this connection of everything at all. yes, such, like some kind of chaos, one of the negative characters in this film says. why are you telling me that all these trees are connected? yes? this is a protestant story. why when we mine precious materials here on this planet? are you talking about some trees, he says, what are you smoking there? what for? i need to know this, it's just trees. and that's when we are told that these are just trees. we don’t think so, because you all know all the time, lately

they have been talking about how scary it is. that's what the west is teasing the russian bear will be there, that there is no need to wake up, the russian people, that he is sleeping there, like ilya muromets on the stove, that if you wake him up, then they will come to berlin to paris again, which is fair, because the precedents have already been. it seems to me that the god of orthodoxy is such a god of the old day . miss, you know, as they say, this is some kind of god, just a real god. and the god of the western world. it is god who is here and now. it is very difficult to understand in the application of the gospel because christ says i will the board is with you all the days until the end of the age, this is how the gospel ends and this is true, this is how it is here and now, well, perceived in a different way. yes, it is very important for us that in a russian person it is important that god give him well-being and comfort a russian person loves well-being, as it were, like any person, but

he does not need it in the first place, and he does not bind. it's like the protestant world , for example, because god loves it. because the russian people have suffered so much in their history that they are prosperity and suffering he perceives it as a giving of the same hand, he is not that he is looking for it. he is ready for it. an honest conversation with god from life begins with you only when you leave. to the exact understanding that everything is possible. and joy and sadness and tears and laughter and death and illness and pleasure, everything is possible, and

the ontological acceptance of this as a form of life distinguishes the russian person, distinguishes us from the west, which, as it were, wants to develop in such a way as not to feel pain, true well , if i joke about switzerland usually of all western countries. i can't stay in switzerland for more than two or three days. i'm getting wild. the nostalgia is right there. because she 's so refined. i even joked that there are a lot of suicides in switzerland. this is true. because a person cannot die there. it 's just that no one will give it to him. it's all so safe. and so, as it were, a safe movement, safe food, a

safe environment efforts that he went out and died. and in general, he is somehow, well, somehow ready. and when this self-preservation begins. that is, the mechanisms of organization are turned on here, because the organization is designed to make all its members as comfortable as possible, i said, and at all lectures, too, that the church is not an organization. she would not have conceived it as an organization, because it is strange to gather 12 people and send them to death, as an organization, and the gospel is about the fact that the fate of a person will not divide us the fate of god is christ about this and vice versa, this is what, i think, is something close to what we can mean by our national idea. we touched on this topic last time. your young parishioners, but no matter how it was developed, i did not get to my

main question, because i often have disputes, and there with people. well, let's tell the older generation about what distinguishes today's youth. and just now i had such a serious argument with people who believe that this means that young people who are not patriotic are leaving comfort and there is absolutely no concept of neither the motherland nor one's own land. but it seems to me that, unlike even my generation, who went to school in the nineties. yes, today's youth, they are more sensitive, that is, let's say those problems that were from us, well, they are super far away. and it seems to me that they find more response in the hearts, and young people now, that is, the environment is important to them, they will not pass by a person who feels bad there on the street. he is somehow, well, in a more aggressive aggressive what? while growing up, you communicate with today's youth. here you will agree with me that

she is more empathetic or you would argue here, i always proceed from the principle that our children are better than us. here, all my feelings are caused by temporary youth, but you just need to understand that it is different, it is very different. it has always been different. this is not only in our time. we can talk about the youth of moscow that's about the youth of st. petersburg or about the youth. uh, a small village of some small village or small town. it will be different youth, however, in many respects different youth from prosperous regions of change it was safe regions. here, through which all sorts of unpleasant traffic passes and sleeps and so on. these are slightly different stories. well, i was brought up very freely in a very unfree country. and next to me there were few people who were so free now, educated people, like

i was the majority then, i think so, because it's just that time is and this strong changes the picture. i would be interested to see it, really . that's just about interviewing every person who left. that's abroad now for what reasons they go there are leaving. that's very interesting, because i think it's not a sausage. most of the answers that we will receive, i am sure of this. i don't defend them, i don't defend them, i don't blame them, but it's not sausage. this is a clash with why they are not ready and such a reaction, that's a pity for them very much that's the truth. in this sense, i hope that most of the wonderful youth will return one way or another, unfortunately to the

great empty in many ways. that's because there is no idea, but filled with a set. so from the internet so soup doggy, because another set. such a gentleman such a european set he he is not blue. here is a head confused very much, a lot of information. for a young organism and a young mind of an immature colossal amount that cannot be digested, it is very difficult to calculate something from it. uh, unfortunately to the great it's not their fault. rather, it is our fault the lack of authority, however, i have been talking about heroes for 30 years. and about the image of the hero, which

is not necessary for ideology. i find it necessary, and the image of a hero is true, that heroes is the spokesman of the ideology of its carrier. true we throw our chests, nadzod fascists, yes, then we are representatives of which ideology is correct of the one that always talks about love for the fatherland, true we give our dad there to the communists. yes, we don’t betray perfectly to be shot, we don’t betray. so, we are representatives, heroes are needed for certain ideologies. soviet propaganda is amazingly able to stamp heroes, and everything was tightened up for them. but, unfortunately, we are just starting, although we care. should have been much earlier earlier, because the whole world of the internet and the whole world of these communications, the western world. this is the world of cartoons, well cartoon hero. here we have some kind of morning star there, it won the minds

of children. well, it's him, he's also a cartoon, however, there is no depth. this is the first, right, the first of some plan, the simplest, the simplest such ciliates, shoes, and so in this sense, they are very sorry. everything was somehow more accurate with us black and white was more understandable, we do n’t understand them, but i understand them, because you , lenin, we said there is a monument to lenin the king is standing here, waiting here, karl marx street well, as it were, either a cross. yes, take off, or shorts, put on, this and, as it were, right there at the same time. everything, so all this democracy is the liberal history of the nineties and later , and here you have coca-cola, and here and all this together. and of course, i don't say there to our generation they say, i'm sorry. how about you, what are you talking about? what do you

want from us? are you leaving us a legacy? what should we do, we gave them such vague guidelines, and everything they took the trouble to do this, however, it is necessary to correct the history textbooks, it is necessary to study literature, it is necessary to introduce censorship here. yep , 30 years is great. is that what we did? why do we all have to ask now? if someone took it, so i recently said somewhere too in some interview and now i have gone abroad. he went abroad in the first place, because he does not understand that he now has to go to war. he does not understand the vector he is directed so he does not believe. you understand what's the matter. here he does not believe, and in general, by and large, it is not his fault. if now we add more condemnation and no forgiveness to him, there is an enemy, people, and so on. he. i think even more surprised. he will say, yes, i’m probably not an enemy, but just tell me exactly what we are for what we

can understand about them, they are so cosmopolitan, and we, in general, turned them into these cosmopolitans. we raised them this way, but it's true, we are responsible when parents come to me as a priest and put a teenager in front of me or a little older they say, here he behaves badly at the hands refusing to talk to him. i always say, so young man or girl, go for a walk while i take my parents, i say, my good ones are everything that you brought me here. this is in your hands. you did it, you did it. if you want to change something. let's talk about how you can change, so that he hears you, you hear him, that is, the meaning will begin, we will have the hardest work for you to comprehend and change in order to change something, because if you want to change the world, all the more your close world of your child. you must start from the very yourself true. something specific to say to him should be an agreement. you see,

with my children, it’s very simple for george washington to have such a favorite phrase. he said that in what is most important, unity in what is less important freedom in everything love is a phrase of one of the saints. i forgot who one of the uh saints of the ancient church had. this is the principle of education. that is, you agreed that the most important thing was to determine this and set it as a super-task in another in that it was less important to give freedom, because this, true, it is less important if you have agreed on the main thing, but you must do all this with love with love for the person who is given to you for education. truth in management. and then i see a completely different, completely different picture in my children, in my spiritual children, that when the main basic agreements are determined and it works, then

that freedom is in the details, it is so hmm amazingly productive. she produces so much within herself. this is what life is. uh, the body is the life of the church. yes, it's true, when there is no freedom, then, as an organism, cannot develop, well, everything is clean in the test tube. you have nothing there, there can be no other bacteria, the laboratory is tightly closed by guards. and when you released it into the jungle, then the hybrid will be just right there. it can be very, very unusual new. once again, i want to say a lot, for this is interesting.