tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 December 25, 2022 5:30pm-6:01pm MSK
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victim complex and myth in the colonial past. why does ukraine need manipulations with history, as a way of national self-affirmation, together with the expert of the program a man with a stone and a woman with an oar, we understand the ukrainian trace in the history of soviet symbols. in today's ukraine, in the formation of the very political nation that the ideologists of integral ukrainian nationalism dreamed of. it is difficult to imagine without a victim complex, the essence of it is simple, there was no such time in history, say the theorists of the political enslaved and not oppressed, it all started back in the nineties with school textbooks written by emigrants and their descendants from canada. there is the whole history of the existence of ukrainian territories. these are short episodes of the struggle for independence, which are replaced by long years of oppression and
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suffering oppressed. all the polish gentry are muscovites, catholics, german invaders and soviet regimes, in the latter case, the entire holodomor of repression, and chernobyl in recent history, even before the maidans, oppresses local oligarchs and pro-russian authorities. in fashion historical studies that came from the west inspired ukrainians with an idea of their almost thousand-year colonial past, and ukraine itself, which did not exist on the map, as a state until the beginning of the 20th century, unexpectedly became a victim of the imperial colonial policy of russia, but in fact, even in pre-soviet times, a typical colony, the austrians polish was ukrainian galicia, present-day western ukraine. in the russian empire, the little russians, and then the ukrainians, were
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part of the titular nation and were part of the ruling elite, the razumovsky brothers from the land-poor dnieper cossacks senior became a general-film, marshal, junior president of the russian academy of sciences, chancellor, empire, beardless and kochubey merchants, industrialists , pre-revolutionary oligarchs, kharitonenko. and tereshchenko is all from the little russians, the chairman of the third and fourth state dumas of russia, mikhail radzyanka, spoke from the poltava centurion ivan radianka, and then vasily shulgin, a kievan, accepted renunciation from the cossack shulga, nikolaev ii from the throne. such career ups and life scenarios were simply unthinkable, impossible for ukrainians in caste golitsy, the ukrainian concept of colonial slavery and the victim complex are the basis of myths about the long path of
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ukrainians to freedom through the maidan, which should lead to the formation of a ukrainian political nation. and those who do not want such freedom. they are just victims of imperial propaganda, slaves with a colonial consciousness and they have no place in independent ukraine. called to remind europeans in mirny about the suffering and sacrifice of ukraine, which took the blow of putin's russia, such performances in recent months, old europe has seen a lot while in the independent
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conflict both sides are fighting on the streets of european cities. bloggers, theatrically, scatter and, allegedly, at the sound of shots, lay down on the ground in order to piercingly look into it at others in a stag, having previously grabbed pillows and a blanket. that germany is the future is still the locomotive of the european economy. it took upon itself the main burden of supporting ukraine in the economic, financial and military spheres , while ukraine is forming a request that they owe everything. actually, they relay this when they get to western countries as refugees. they do not behave like people who need help, who demand this help go back deep into the past , back in the years of the civil war. grushevsky , for example, actively promoted the historical
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myth about student martyrs who fell in battles with the bolsheviks, but in reality simply abandoned to the mercy of fate by the command of the unr, all this later became the content of textbooks, but you independent ukraine in the early nineties, the whole history of ukraine was built on the myth that ukraine ukrainians suffer all their lives, suffer from an unequal struggle with these very muscovites, which yuriy started against them dolgoruky , if again look at the ukrainian news, there and so on you, uh, in various analytical programs, wise guys from goose will say that of course, the donbass was at one time, specially killed in the thirties years during the years of famine, to be replaced by the muscovite population. after gaining independence, the new national day became the famine, the tragic events of the thirties of the last century, when in the arable regions of the ussr, not only in ukraine, but also in the kuban, the north caucasus, the volga region of belarus and even in
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siberia, millions of peasants died of hunger in the independence of our days, they began to consider goals as a directed policy genocide against the great, taken separately by the ukrainian people, the suffering was exported in the center washington even erected a monument to the victims of the famine, and each of the ukrainian presidents considers it his duty to intercept this famine in places, and all in front of the communists who traveled over our corpses. the so-called massacre in the baturin of the events of the northern war was raised on the shield of ukrainian propaganda, when, after the betrayal of mazepa, his defections to the side of the swedes, peter i gave the order to burn the headquarters of the corrupt hetman. and let no real evidence of numerous victims and murdered babies. historians have not found the psychological effect was achieved by transcribing the events of
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centuries ago in a modern way. they bore fruit, even in the highest echelons of power it came to anecdotal situations. when in 2005 they wanted to lower the price for e, respectively for oil and e, this negotiator demanded that he was the very leader of kun , that is, the congress of ukrainian nationalists. he demanded that he be given an interpreter. and in response, he was told that he did not need a carrier they wrote a figure four times more and then to him, so to speak, under his breath, he was with this when and when he was asked, it received publicity, she was asked, what were you thinking about at that moment, when he set such conditions, he said, i was thinking about baturin. but what the leadership of donetsk shakhtar was thinking about, which this year firmly decided to be not entirely clear to the ukrainians at the world cup, nevertheless, long before the start of the championship , persistent proposals appeared in the frame on the club’s official twitter account to remove from participating in the world cup, which is not friendly to
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ukraine, iran by the way, iran won admission there in a fair sporting fight with passing in its group, while ukraine failed to do this. but after all, they not only demanded that iran be removed. they also wanted this place to be given to ukraine, however, as the example of president zelensky shows, on the image of an offended and oppressed one can build a good business in the fall, the president of ukraine said that the elimination needed an additional 55 billion dollars in addition to the tenth billion that the american congress previously allocated to kiev and while one part of the western public is outraged by uncontrolled cash injections into ukraine , others are concerned about the issue. why, in the very heart of europe, the la scala theater does not politically correct open the new season with a production of boris godunov by the russian composer mussorgsky and among the audience is the chairman of the european commission, ursula
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fondala? by the way, the poster caressed the nutcracker and swan lake. so serious passions can flare up and who knows whose side, in the end it will take up, it is very possible that the next season will please the discerning european listener, for example, not yet so widely known, but a very ukrainian copy of the damage. anna efimova valery savelyev anastasia popova typical ukraine about why in ukraine they constantly talked about the difficult colonial past and cultivated the image of the victim. we will talk with our permanent expert historian alexander vasiliev. sasha good afternoon. hello in general in nationalist mythology, as a rule, uh! cultivates the image of the hero the image of success. and why in ukraine they suddenly started talking about the victim,
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as the main content, well, ukrainian history, it seems to me that there is a whole range of factors, but one of them is that this image of the victim, it gives such a universal, well, what is there a moral induction for any action? well, here you can e give an example of events. uh, in the thirtieth year in western ukraine, the region at that time was part of poland, so the second polish-lithuanian commonwealth ruled there, but punks. yes it was dick a very tough authoritarian regime, with even obvious fascist elements, that is, of course, ukrainians did not live well there . and so, it means that ukrainian nationalists fought against him. yes, and olun, and only just now, which arose at that moment. they mean, uh, attacked the polish peasants. there, village houses were set on fire, people were killed, terrorist attacks were carried out against polish politicians , terrorist attacks were carried out against ukrainian
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politicians who were trying to build some kind of loyal relationship. uh, solve these problems politically. and that's all, means. uh, so to speak, polyakov got it and right on the eve of the elections, by the way, at seven they staged a very tough punitive action, they brought in police units to the size of the lead. uh, additional military contingents. there, entire villages were surrounded by searches. well , it was directly called very, very hard. this pacification died from mariinium, which means, well , and the ukrainian diaspora, first of all , there was already immigration in germany and in lithuania, it must be said in other countries and in europe in britain about this guardian, for example, i wrote a whole company of information that look what the poles are doing atrocities and so on and so on and so on. but if you look, yes, then according to the results, even according to ukrainian data, according to polish official data, there are fewer things. but according to ukrainian data, seven people died for this most cruel punitive action. yes, but then, when
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the volyn massacre was organized under the guidance of the mind, that is, just genocide, they directly referred to the fact that we are victims of falsification. well, how would you understand. well, people are so emotional taken by accident. uh, they slaughtered tens of thousands of their neighbors. well, fast forward to today , when one of the, uh, well-known human rights organizations, together with international, recently downed the ukrainian armed forces for violating the rules of war. well, essentially. eh, i didn’t say that directly, but uh hinted at uh, means. armed forces of ukraine e spend on their own territory? yes, as at least, as it is declared, then zelensky, in an emotional outburst, kept repeating, ukraine is a victim, ukraine is a victim. like, we can't be. eh, with those we cannot do what we are reproached for. we are always just a victim. why is he talking to the west all the time about this? yes , of course, you know, it sounded like this, well, somehow
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even itself is revealing. that is, just in such a tone as it was repeated, like a mantra like a spell, and uh, i must say that the western audience. yes, remember, we are the victim. yes western audience the fact is that for this spell, they are very susceptible. just by virtue of uh, closely, let's say ideological cultural processes that take place in the very west. uh, even in the social sciences there is a whole branch of victimology. yes, that is, this is the study of this topic of sacrifice from different angles and in social, but in psychology. this is being studied very actively and there is such a condemned in the west, widely, condemned concept. and how is vic team blaming, that is, blaming the victim, yes, when some kind of crime is committed there, there is sexual violence, yes , the victim is accused, that they say she put on a short skirt, then she is to blame, right? and this complex psychology and social psychology and human relationships, it is actively transferred to politics. and as if it is implied that, well,
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this is the same thing yes, and therefore that side of e, which e acts with the position of the victim, and she, accordingly, e does not bear any responsibility at all. for whatever their actions are popular. ah, western philosophers. glory zhizhik. he even regardless , he supports ukraine well, as expected and so on, but regardless of current events, he once had such a and the syntony formula is that in today's western society, and you can claim power only from the position of the victim. that, in fact, this opens this ending. but if the creation of this image of the victim, today in ukraine is just a political technique, then the real victim of the military conflict in ukraine is also a real victim of the military conflict in ukraine. of course, uh, the civilian population in ukraine is a victim of this war and this conflict beyond any doubt. yeah, uh, and we, how to put
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it that way. well, sympathy in ukrainian society. there is always a radical a force that even carries its own ideologies with the idea that it is necessary to make sacrifices for the sake of ukraine. you need to donate. the truth is to sacrifice. they prefer, as a rule, not with them. yes, and who but those same, but ordinary citizens, the undoubted victims of the ukrainian conflict throughout all these years are russians, and russian cultured people, who in ukraine are a significant number, but if we look at demography and for different kinds of sociological research, otherwise we will see how the percentage of russians has seriously fallen. yes, in the total composition of the population of ukraine almost twice the number of russians is steadily decreasing, simply by millions of people, where did these people go, nobody asks this question, and these people became victims of the aggressive
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assimilation policy that ukraine led and which ultimately led to the current conflict , the scale of which is simply expanded. eh, since then. do i understand correctly that they graze. uh, ukrainians are really a victim, but the victims are those politicians who, starting from uh, the middle. uh, ten years they did everything in order to there was no peace in ukraine, so that it was impossible to agree on it. yes, of course, uh, here, uh, it is important to understand that u are the fatality of russophobic politics. anti-russian policy , it was obvious, and in ukraine, many people talked about it. yes, that even well, it is not necessary to love russia there, but for purely pragmatic purposes to go into conflict with it. and we were in constant conflict. yes, this is suicidal. this is just suicidal and more than that, uh, we remember, uh, speech by
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us president george w. bush elder at the dawn of ukrainian independence, he warned the deputies. from which, from the most murderous nationalism, everyone understood everything. yes, it just might be, but there were some less responsible politicians in washington who realized that this suicidal nationalism could be used. and as for your goals, you certainly talk about it, i repeat, you need to talk about it, and no matter how in response you heard the whole pants, in this very accusation of the victim, and so on. thank you very much sasha for a detailed interesting story. two vivid images, two symbols of soviet monumental sculpture of the twenties-thirties . this is a man who is ready to fight for the new world even with a cobblestone and a naked girl is a symbol of freedom and equality of the sexes in the
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young soviet republic; the sculptor ivan shadr is more amazing. in total, their fates took shape in ukraine, and in these stories there is something very typical of the present time, the proletarian. with cobblestone shadr made from plaster in 1927 he became a symbol. the first russian revolution of 1905, the original is stored in the tretyakov gallery, the tension of the struggle in the whole figure, the relief plasticity of the body, the strong-willed facial features of the shadr, so accurately and expressively, this one conveyed that he put his sculpture on a par with the ancient discus thrower myron and michelangelo's david and pooh of the renaissance after
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the death of ivan shadra flying began to be cast in bronze. the name of the monument has become a household name; one of them was erected in kiev in 1982. the monument was dedicated to the friendship of workers the podolsky district and the krasnopresnensky district of moscow were installed on podol on krasnaya presnya square in 2016, they were demolished, because he sinned twice, the first time when he became a symbol of the russian revolution, the second after the maidan began to remind of the times when the people of kiev. they were friends with the muscovites and soon named the square. but the fate of the shadrin girl, svetly, who ended up in the ukrainian voroshilovgrad, present-day lugansk, is somewhat
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different , but in its own way also very typical. immediately he was fond of singing and acting and painting, but at the beginning of the twenties of the last century, he left all his hobbies and focused exclusively on culture, the images he created of this lions, active emotional heroes ready to fight and overcome one of the main components. eh, with some kind of rishadra - this is e skill. eh, it's very expressive to convey dynamic movement. sometimes. he even, uh, refused to uh, so to speak, observe the rule of anatomy in order to, uh, emphasize his main idea. the main content of the image in 1934, by order of the central park of culture and leisure in moscow, ivan shadry began to create a girl with an oar, a student of the moscow institute became a model for culture. physical education. vera voloshina noticed her shadr during diving training, the
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further fate of the world layer. lived tragically. the very first days of the war she went to the front and died together with zoya kosmodemyanskaya almost on the same day they were hanged. uh, since they served in the same partisan detachment and were captured at the same time, and in 1935 a girl with an oar made of reinforced concrete, patinated in bronze, was installed on the main thoroughfare of the park in the center with a fountain, very realistic, smiling in a relaxed pose. she confused the public, the year when the sculpture of the girl svetly was installed in gorky park. hosted the summer season in the commission of joseph steel and when he saw a naked figure nine meters high in the center of the alley after the main entrance. he said, this is what needs to be removed. no one will go further, the sculpture is exiled to the ukrainian
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voroshilovgrad why it is not known for certain, perhaps thanks to klim voroshilov, who came from those parts at that time, people's commissar for defense of the ussr, or maybe because in august 1936, a similar park of culture and recreation was opened there, also named after gorky. for us for luhansk it was a wonderful gift , by the way, she was sent by e, with the consent of the shadra herself, the girl is light. yes, it was the most significant such dominant sculpture in our park. and the park itself became a big event for the dusty and smoky steppe industrial city of lugan-chanin, the future author of moscow evenings. mikhail matusovsky dedicated two poems to its discovery. a beautiful park, located on 30 hectares and in many ways not inferior to the capital, was the brainchild of alexander stepanovich, one of the main projects of the architect alexander sheremet, and thanks to his diligence, his great talent and
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human qualities. he was a great organizer. he spent days and nights at the construction site. everyone saw his enthusiasm and in 1937 he was appointed to the position of chief architect of the city and in this position. he worked for over 30 years. at first, we installed a girl with an oar in the same way as in moscow in a large fountain, but the height of the sculpture on the pedestal did not correspond to its size, and then alexander sheremet moved the figure to the grotto, where it seemed to go down a couple of steps lower, who arrived in lugansk to the shadr, the transformation had to be soul and as a token of gratitude, he presented his lugansk colleague with a book, vitruvius on architecture, alas, but already in the next thirty-seventh year, the sculpture of ivan shadr disappeared from lugansk local historians still cannot find an explanation for this park, in its place another girl appeared with an oar, also the moscow sculptor
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ramualt and a duck, and this figure was already in a bathing suit, and in moscow for the fountain pedestals. gorky park ivan shadr created another version from a different model. second. this option is, of course, more elegant and represents a girl in real life with a different hairstyle of slightly different proportions. and well, indeed, it is closer to other soviet cultures. a fragment of the second version of the sculpture is presented, just at the exhibition in a new at the tretyakov gallery, this shadra girl, according to one version, stood in moscow gorky park until the end of the fifties, sculpture in lugansk was so unlucky during the great patriotic war. this park was almost completely destroyed. but there were beautiful sculptures, beautiful fountains, among other things, to restore the park in all its splendor, it was not possible either in the soviet period or in the ukrainian period. surprisingly , it was in a difficult time for the city that after the events of 2014, luhansk residents revived
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their gorky park a in 2019 in it again a girl appeared with a shadrovskaya paddle, the authors victor gorbulin and roman manulov did not choose their contemporary olga mokhova anastasia popova as a model valery savelyev typical, ukraine that's all we wanted to tell. kirill vyshinsky was with you today. good luck to you. in any journey, you need a faithful and reliable companion who will support the way and who is always nearby rosneft is the largest network of gas stations where warm meetings and a profitable loyalty program are waiting for you, we are always responsible for the quality and we take care of those for whom the
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we continue to follow the development of events russian air defense intercepted 7 shells, rocket launchers, highmars and hurricane. also, our military shot down five ukrainian drones and destroyed four howitzers of the armed forces, the latest data from the ministry of defense for the trial amounted to 60 ukrainian soldiers killed, four armored combat vehicles, three pickup trucks. in the donetsk direction during the conduct of offensive actions, russian troops destroyed more than 80 ukrainian servicemen and mercenaries, two tanks, five armored combat vehicles and four vehicles in the direction of donetsk. and where artillery defeated two native tactical groups, 72, mechanized and 68th infantry. jaeger brigades of the armed forces of ukraine trying to counterattack the positions of russian troops in the direction of populated
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