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the church and society were not divided even on paper, and any person, any person who survived one way or another, the majority of the orthodox was definitely preceded by many generations of orthodox ancestors, however, it ’s more difficult for us. i don't know if you had orthodox ancestors. here i have three generations ahead, but of course, the repentance of my mother, that's her. eh, now, thank god , she has already tonsured a monastic, and so has her christian life for the last decades. this is one conversation. well, before that i have three or four generations people did not know at all that god is one context, and another context, when you live in this, when the words of the liturgy sacrament uh, christian church holidays form for you hmm the basis of your being. it's just that in your very being you are surrounded by this, of course you mm, you
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don't just absorb this and you have a certain language. you have a certain relationship, a certain understanding, mm and an inner language, but such communication between people, it is built on this. you can't get away from this. if you don't know this, then you do n't understand the russian chekhov man buninsky. we talked with you last time, but in serials about mistakes in modern serials, where about the church and about god so these mistakes. they are inevitable, because society does not live, not by god or the church, it does not know at all, does not understand this, therefore mistakes, therefore there must be some kind of censorship so that it looks beautiful, at least yes, well, culturally, so let's say chekhov writes his story do you remember the student, when the student was hunting there, he got lost in the fields and remembered how, uh, the betrayal of the apostle peter this gospel fire night, he also warmed himself with someone , a wonderful story, chekhov e,
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no one needs to explain why this association arose for students, that is, this is the life of a russian person in these gospel circumstances, well, religion used to be in passports not faith confession the fact is that everything around you is filled with this. i once saw it surprisingly shocked me, almost the thirty-seventh year of the soviet calendar, 30, yes, here is some such, and not even 34 there, namely 37, the soviet calendar and there remain red in the calendar marked christian holidays. surprisingly, what a persecution of the church has been going on for 20 years. well, here comes the worst. and yes, you can’t go anywhere, because the people still live indestructibly by this, father dmitry you said three generations were people who did not believe. as i understand it, atheists many people
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know your mother, as actress ekaterina vasilyeva loves films with her participation, but not many people know. and why did she take this path, and how did it happen in your family? this is the meeting with god why did she start a long-standing meeting, because not through the priests, first through all sorts of dissident characters, having come in large numbers. something here from abroad any trubetskoy. here, in particular, through downloading the trubetskaya, which my mother first introduced to the priest. mom had never seen a living priest in her life before, in general, a living priest was a rarity at that time. so then my mother was baptized, then she baptized me a little unconsciously, but nonetheless. this is what began to rise up, that
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self-consciousness that we are talking about, yes which cannot be destroyed, even if there are two generations before you, for example, or one unbelieving people. this one sits too deep. here, and then slowly, like most people, a long path of churching. that's what led her eventually to monasticism. she would like our agreed for a long time. i mean, it's just technical. it was complicated. that's what i'm often asked now. and what does mom do in the monastery, pray and that's it. i say that why she went there and that's it. it was her dream it was the dream of the last thirty years of her life definitely not, she made her dream come true. i think it's normal to overestimate their capabilities. if i watched now, i probably wouldn't have made up my mind, why? because it
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's a very difficult matter. how do you not make sense? not in the sense of labor or some sleepless nights of experiences? in the sense of conformity , it’s difficult to conform to what you wear to an artist, you know. it is already difficult for an actress to try on some complex image for herself, not all images. truth. you easily carry here not an image, but some kind of supersov in modern language, how to say, super, weapons, or what? something to wear on you. and you've never been in a fight . you're talking about something else, and here, all in such brilliant armor under the armor, the heart is such a miserable knock-knock-knock-knock , family children destroy you most of all. and what is the future? as you see monasticism in russia, i really
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hope that sooner or later quantity will turn into quality. i hope that this will be the case, i can’t say that i see it yet, but again, yes, a perfectionist. i always want more, but i know many monks, but i don't know many monks . here are 2-3 people, maybe be, well, from what i would like to see how as a monk a monk is not a title. this is not the position of a monk. it's just that this is a christian who most accurately felt what christianity is, more precisely, he understood everything, what the gospel is , and the person who is looking for christ is most accurately trying to fulfill it. as the holy churches said. he cannot find christ until he sees christ in another person. here, and this should be obvious, because he is not christ in clothes. he is not even in all
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the splendor or beauty of worship he is in man. so, uh, i see the future of russian monasticism such that it will give us men of the faith of strength and reason, so that these men by their existence without words, without discussions and without disputes of opinions. to prove the correctness of the gospel, here we read the work of tolstoy dostoevsky, well, we know their biographies and, as it were, a trip trip meeting with an old man. it was such a normal business, like going to the doctor? today, this is the institute of eldership, if you can call it that at all, it is in our country. unfortunately, it seems to me that it is coming to naught. what is the reason this is not the time, there are no elders of this magnitude. no, those who can hear.
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forgive this sharply, of course here. it seems to me that this is the main reason. because i think there is. i don't know, i was told in secret, of course there are none so obvious. uh , like father john the peasant, like father kirill pavlov, but they told me that there is, but they just hide. that’s because today, unfortunately, everything is so little demanded by a person to run to the elder, because he doesn’t truly need christ’s, but what is it? well, compared to the truth of christ, something small is not for this. they are for this, too, of course, as comforters, but not for this they testify to something else . and in this sense, they are necessary for people who are looking for this, speaking in english, that is, a
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quick solution to their problems. remembered the times of the soviet union to your surprise in soviet reality, we existed with ideology, but without the church, the church, priests, and so on were caricatured. today we live with the church president on on big holidays he goes to services. but the thirteenth article of the constitution enshrined a ban on ideology. and just recently , the patriarch spoke about the fact that it would be nice to return the ideology in our country, firstly, do you agree with this or not? do we need an
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official ideology. and if so, what could it be? need a russian man. i don't know what it should be. uh, 30 years, we are looking for this ideology. so far haven't been able to find it. i think that a person or a community of people, researchers, sketch institute, some wise men gathered all together, if they think of writing. an ideology that would suit everyone today. that nobel prize, of course, no one will give, because we are now in a difficult relationship with the nobel prize, but some kind of great prize, the greatest that can be given to them right
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from emeralds. it will be necessary to give very difficult in an interview with vladyka tikhon shevkunov. and well, he brought , as it were, in comparison, the ideology that now exists in ukraine, and in his opinion, it is clearly attractive to ukrainians, and it works ukraine c. and europe but according to the same vladyka tikhon for us, it would not fit, because in the dna of a russian orthodox person and europe is equal to comfort and comfort. it cannot be final, which means that a russian person does not live for this purpose. but i have a question. maybe the problem is that we do not have an ideology, what we are looking for in very high spheres in big worlds, maybe it is possible to formulate something simple, close and
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understandable to everyone. you are asking me a very provocative question. katya here. i don't even think i'm ready to talk about this topic. i'll tell you honestly. so i could say that m-m russian people will not agree to anything low, therefore, he needs high and agree in this sense sweet and quiet. here but i have only one reservation about the russian people. so i think that before you find an ideology for a russian person, you need to find a russian person. this is very important. here i belong to a small group. i am not a historian, however, i was generally an educated person. well, i think more people. who believe that, for example, that until we
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return to the question of where the russian land, and roughly speaking to the middle ages to russian. here we will not understand who we are, inhabiting this land, speaking this language. until we find out who we are. we cannot, of course, formulate an ideology for ourselves. and most importantly, if we understand who we are, maybe there will be no need to formulate an ideology, because it has already been formulated 1.500 million times. something like this, i would answer. well, you will quote you again at your lectures. and you say that western civilization for russian person. very dangerous. we also call it protestant, that is, you oppose the christian tradition, the so -called russian tradition. here, maybe in this difference, there is some kind of seed rostock
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yes, this is the definition that we do not need to understand what we need protestant what we call the protestant tradition. it 's still a tradition. well, with them, too. well, from the catholic tradition. in this sense, too, we are more living people, and in that lecture you mention, for sure. spoke you, but the remarkable opinion of the priest alexander elchaninov, who at one time studied while living abroad. there, in emigration, the differences between catholicism and orthodoxy, he remarkably says that mm catholics believe in the church as an organization. and we believe in the church, as in the body, you know all this, i now remembered the avatar film, which i obviously reviewed with the children. that's all about this connection. yes, such, like some kind of
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chaos, one of the negative characters in this film says. why are you telling me that all these trees are connected? yes? this is a protestant story. why when we mine precious materials here on this planet? are you talking about some trees? he says, are you smoking all this there? why do i need to know this, it's just trees. and that's when we are told that these are just trees. we do n’t think so, because you all know all the time, lately they have been talking about how scary it is. that's what the west is teasing the russian bear will be there, that there is no need to wake up, the russian people, that he is sleeping there, like ilya muromets on the stove, that if you wake him up, then hoo again they will come to berlin to paris, which is fair, because there have already been precedents. it seems to me that the god of orthodoxy is the god of such an old day. miss, you know, as they say, this is some kind of god, just a real god. and the god, uh, of the western world is the god
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who is here and now. this is very difficult to understand in the application of the gospel because christ says, i will be with you all the days until the end of the age, this is how the gospel ends and this is true, this is how he is here and now, it's perceived differently. yes , it is very important to us that it is important for a russian person that god give him well-being and comfort a russian person loves well-being, as it were, like any person, but he does not need it in the first place, and he does not bind. it 's like the protestant world, for example, because god loves it. because a russian person has suffered so much in his history that he perceives prosperity and suffering as a gift from one and the same hand, he is not exactly looking for this. he is ready for it. an honest conversation with god from life begins with you
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only when you leave. to the exact understanding that everything is possible. and joy and sadness and tears and laughter and death and illness and pleasure, everything is possible, the anthological acceptance of this, as a form of life, distinguishes the russian person, distinguishes us from the west , which, as it were, wants to develop in such a way as not to feel pain, truth well, if i joke about switzerland usually for some reason. here i am from all western countries. i can't stay in switzerland for more than two or three days. i'm getting wild. the nostalgia is right there. because she
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something so refined. i even joked that there are a lot of suicides in switzerland. this is true. because a person cannot die there. it 's just that no one will give it to him. it's all so safe. and so, as it were, safe movement, safe food, a safe environment. uh, medicine is the air of this cow's milk chocolates. that is, you just have to make an effort to die. yes, but a russian person makes an effort that he came out and died. and in general, he is somehow, well, somehow ready. and when this one starts saving itself, then here the mechanisms of the organization are turned on, because the organization is designed to make all its members as comfortable as possible. i said, and in all the lectures too, that the church is not an organization. she wouldn't have conceived it as an organization because it's strange to gather 12 people and send them to their deaths as an organization. and the gospel is
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about the fact that the fate of man is not divided by the fate of god and all of christ is about this and vice versa, here it is. i think there is something close to what we can mean to their national ideas. we last time , uh, touched on the topic. your young parishioners, but no matter how it is developed, and i did not get to my main question, because i often have disputes, and there with people. well, let's tell the older generation about what distinguishes today's youth. and just now i had such a serious argument with people who believe that it means that young people who are not patriotic are leaving for them, comfort is important and there is absolutely no concept of neither motherland nor their own land. but it seems to me that, unlike even my generation, who went to school in nineties. yes, today's youth, they are more
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sensitive, that is, let's say those problems that were from us, well, they are super far away. but it seems to me that they find more response in the hearts of young people now, that is, the environment there is important to them, they will not pass by a person who feels bad there on the street. well, in a more rigidly aggressive what? while growing up, you communicate with today's youth. here you will agree with me that she is more sensitive or you would argue here, i will always say on principle that our children are better than us. here are all my feelings modern youth are called, but you just need to understand that they are different, they are very different. they have always been different. this is not only in our time. we can talk about the youth of moscow that's about the youth of st. petersburg or about the youth. uh, hmm a little rustic of some small village or small town. it will be different youth,
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however, in many respects different youth from prosperous regions of change were prosperous regions. here, through which all sorts of unpleasant traffic passes and sleeps and so on. these are slightly different stories. well here, i was brought up very freely in a very unfree country. next to me there were few such people who were so free now, educated people, as i was then the majority. i think so, because it's just that time is and it's strong that changes the picture. i would be interested to see it, really. that's just about interviewing every person who left. that's abroad now for what reasons they go there. that's very interesting, because i think it's not a sausage. most of the answers we
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you will receive i am sure of it. i do n't defend them, i don't defend them, i don't blame them, but it's not sausage. this is a clash with why they are not ready and such a reaction, that's a pity very much that's true. in this sense, i hope that most of the wonderful youth will return one way or another, unfortunately to the great empty in many ways. that's because there is no idea, but filled with a set. so from the internet such a soup sick dog there is something else such a set. such a gentleman such a european set he he not blue. here is a head confused very much, a lot of information. for a young
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organism and a young, weak time, a colossal amount that cannot be digested is very difficult to calculate something from it. uh, unfortunately to the great it's not their fault. rather, it is our fault the lack of authority, however, i have been talking about heroes and the image of a hero for 30 years, which is not necessary for ideology. i think it is necessary, and the image of the hero. true, the hero is the spokesman for the ideology of its carrier. true we throw our chests, nadzod fascist, yes, then we representatives. what ideology is right for the one that we always talk about love for the fatherland. truth we give our dad there to the communists. yes, we don’t attach excellently to be shot, which means that we are representatives of certain these ideologies , heroes are needed. soviet propaganda is amazingly
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able to stamp heroes, and everything was pulled up for them. we, unfortunately, are just starting, although we care. it should have been much earlier, much earlier, because the whole world of the internet and the whole world of these communications, the western world is the world cartoons, well cartoon characters. here we have some kind of morning star there, it won the minds of children. well, this is monzhe- he is a cartoon, however, there is no depth. this is the first , right, the first some kind of plan, the simplest, the simplest such ciliates, shoes, and so in this sense, they are very sorry. we somehow had everything more precisely. black and white was understandable to us. they did not understand. well, i understand them, because you have, uh, lenin, we vzaireli lies a monument to lenin, the king stands here, is patient here, karl marx street well, as it were, or a
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cross. yes, take off, or shorts, put on, this and as if right there at the same time with everything, so all this democracy or is it the liberal history of the nineties and later, and here you have coca-cola and here and all this together. and of course, i don't tell us to our generation they say, please forgive me. how about you, what are you talking about? what do you want from us? are you leaving us a legacy? what are we supposed to do, we gave them such vague guidelines, and everyone worked hard on this, however, we need to correct history textbooks, we need to correct literature from this, we need to introduce censorship here. yah excellent 30 years what we have been doing. why do we have to ask them now? if someone took it, so i recently said somewhere too in some interview and now i have gone abroad. he went abroad in the first place, because he does not understand why he should go
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to war now. he does not understand, he is in such a multidirectional vector that he does not believe. you understand what's the matter. here he does not believe, and in general, by and large, it is not his fault. if now we add more condemnation and no forgiveness to him, there is an enemy, people, and so on. he. i think even more surprised. he will say, yes, i’m probably not an enemy, but just tell me exactly what we are for what we can understand about them, they are so cosmopolitan, and we, in general, turned them into these cosmopolitans. we raised them this way, but it's true. we are responsible when parents come to me as a priest and put a teenager in front of me or say a little older, so he behaves badly out of hand. talk to him. i always say, so young man or girl, go for a walk while i take my parents, i say, my good everything that you brought me here. this is your handiwork. you did it, you
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did it. if you want to change something. let's talk about how you change so that he hears you, you hear him, that is, the meaning will begin, we will have to rub the hardest comprehension and changes in order to change something. that is, you want to change the world, especially your close world of your child, too, to start yourself the truth. something concrete to say to him should be an agreement. you see, it’s very easy for me with my children with george washington was such a favorite phrase. he said that in what is most important, unity in what is less important freedom in everything love is a phrase of one of the saints. i forgot who one of the uh saints of the ancient church had. this is the principle of education. that is, you agreed that the most important thing was to determine this and set it as a super task. in the other,
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that it is less important that he gave freedom, because it is true that it is less important if you agreed on the main thing, but you must do all this with love with love for the person who gave for your upbringing. truth in control. and then i see a completely different, completely different picture in my children, in my spiritual children, that when the main agreements are defined, and it works, then that freedom is in the details, it is so hmm amazing productively. she is so, uh, producing within herself. this is what life is. uh, the body is the life of the church. yes, it's true, that is, when there is no freedom, then, as an organism, it cannot develop, well, everything is cleanly swept in a test tube. nothing can be there no other bacteria of the lab is tightly guarded. and when you released it into the jungle, then the hybrid will be just right there
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