solve, but there are a number of local problems that are in the industries. i would single out metallurgy here. uh, first of all, in those industries that were oriented, e, to the export of products to europe, these are chemists. uh, it's metallurgy. uh, this is a forest in the northwestern northwestern regions, finland and so on. yes, he is now going to europe, uh, to or trying to drive east through china and so on, and this is certainly a car building, which is now slowly starting to come to life, but only just here, of course, they will be needed. uh, support measures targeted measures support, all this is already a task. uh, twenty- three. speaking as a whole, then, in principle, we believe that the year 23 e will be, if nothing happens, it will be natural. much easier than 22nd

we don't see any fatal problems there. eh, thanks to the fact that in the first half of the year it was possible. uh, do not miss the situation for now, uh, everything is under control, and in general, the policy is quite proactive andrey romovich. uh. it's great that we managed to avoid that recession, and here indeed, the government is great. nevertheless, you need to think about the future. and now they have already said what kind of future you expect, but this is in general, as far as it concerns. uh, the main question, which i'm preparing for the interview, i wanted to ask you. and how the government will carry out the instructions of the president, and he recently said that we should not a transfer the economy, probably, the mobilization rails. at the same time, supply the army with everything necessary and at the same time save it. uh, social benefits and so on, that is, the standard of living and it would be desirable to raise it. well, we know very well that

there is an economic oil cannon dilemma, how to distribute it? how to find that balance in order to complete this task, it is very difficult, it turns out. i can tell you. so uh this dilemma it needs to be outdated. well , first of all, it's outdated. i would say yes. secondly, that's not even the point. the point is that, uh, the higher the rate of economic growth, the less acute this dilemma. and so i think it's largely a question. e speed uh, economic recovery speed exit at a sustainable pace. e three percent the pace we're talking about. e, of course, next year we will not be able to show 3%, most likely, that is, it will be lower, it will be lower. i think there will be around zero forecast. now we have about minus one percent there a little less. here, well, somewhere in the minus one zero,

because we had a very, uh, good first quarter of this year and the beginning of the year, so we will still have the base effect, calculations show that we can solve these tasks that the president set given the economic parameters that are now achievable, but in what, uh, in what you are definitely right. this is that the specifics of the situation of 23 years forms a specific agenda and the peculiarity is that we need to really resolve tactical issues. here, then here to solve this dilemma in the end and at the same time. we already need to think and work on the strategic agenda. we need a long-term agenda. actually the president. here's on the latest advice on its development projects. he outlined six of these main priorities, and of them, note five are actually economic, because the problems of poverty are connected with

economic growth, they are economic, therefore, in fact, the quintessence of politics to the consistency of action. it is here that this is already largely determined. well, if you need specifics, i can give you a few examples, yes, yes, then, let's go from top to bottom, let's go straight to the priorities that the president said. so the first one was very accurate. note no transport logistics corridors. and e bringing to a new level of relations with our friendly partners, since there corridors or somehow yes, corridors. this is , of course, the entire export support system, and the entire critical import support system must be reoriented and interconnected. we cannot roll out corridors without tying support measures to them. yes, for example, why they are needed absolutely and exactly the same you know, i would say horizontal, uh, support measures. they won't work for export either,

because, well, there won't be enough money, at least. that's why everything needs to be emphasized now than actually. we are going to work now. and further. technological trip technological agenda is layered post, because there is, as it were, further it is what we call technological sovereignty. e providing with the help of technology the ability to set and achieve or national development. and there is an agenda for the near future. it is connected with localization with the restoration of the stable functioning of our production systems, sectoral systems of aviation, automotive industry, shipbuilding, and so on and so on, the list is quite long and here now, uh, spent. there are several such echeloned directions. one of them is the so-called mega-projects, which means that there are large customers. well

, for example, here are specific examples of russian railways and there is, uh, a large, but the main manufacturer. lokomotivov transmash holding, backed by, for example, leisinara, behind which there is a large large cooperation, they conclude an agreement, and a long-term agreement, and under this agreement, russian railways guarantees a certain volume of purchases of their goods. uh, given that uh specifications of this products, in this case, the locomotive and price characteristics should correspond to what they agreed on, so naturally there should be control and so on, and the state is pulling up all the tools to support the implementation of such contracts, starting from long loans, and subsidizing interest rates . well , in teika. i have already said that i guaranteed guaranteed demand, and cooperation help.

here is now a new form, which is the president. instructed to implement at the st. petersburg forum. uh, industrial or industrial clusters. it idea of ​​mikhail vladimirovich mishustin. he actively promoted it. now it will start working in the new year, primarily in this area in support of these mega-projects, where else such mega-projects can exist , and telecommunications equipment. we have rostelecom the largest customer in the growth of the largest manufacturers of his company and not only his company, and this is unconditional. power engineering turbine production. uh, it's aeronautical engineering. a and well , then, and the automobile, probably only such directions somewhere approximately. uh, about two dozen. specifically such projects. this is so big. eh, such a big one, long-range

strong ones like that, he is such a breakthrough group. there is still a huge amount somewhere in the order. here are the positions of import substitution that simply need to be produced in order to close, uh, that blocking of deliveries, components, which our unfriendly countries have now organized for us. and here, too, a system has been created, and a system for working out all technical documentation, e design documentation of production support. uh, industry development fund. yes, it is also focused on specific projects. they are much shorter. this is what non-promoters do. now e will work. uh, so uh, here uh, this is such a second element. uh, here in this here is a very important in the technological agenda next is finance. uh, what he said next is the most interesting at the expense. what are you doing sovereignty. and look here, uh,

the level of savings throughout the world, that is, throughout the world everywhere it is practically the same balance sheet there is a simple balance, but savings are equal to investments plus the export of capital and actually. ah, the savings rate. today, we have enough domestic savings to provide the volume of investment that we need, which we can calmly digest and raise it from the current 20% of gdp to 25%, maybe even up to 30%. if we manage to promote it. well , most likely in the region of twenty-five it is important to create motivation to create long-term money, because the investor actually needs what he needs and he needs profitability. if there is no profit. you can do whatever to motivate, there and all sorts of barriers in the country will not go there, because no, and he needs understandable and predictable risks. because

if this is, first of all, just administrative barriers, it will not work there, the largest of this profitability should be very high so that he takes a risk in any case. and third, he needs access to a financial instrument. here are the three components of investments that need to be made, and i must say that the government is working in all three areas. uh, now uh, a huge program is being implemented. e, in which more than 40 regions are involved. and uh, by the end of next year there should be one way or another, only 89 regions are involved there. no, this is an investment standard implementation program, uh, that i developed with mrs. business, uh, and this means the introduction of institutions that make it comfortable for business to stay in this region, but rather , the now restarted

program of protection of the agreement on the protection of investment investments sppk, and there are now the first 10. new agreements should already be in place. by the end of this year, there will be more than 3 million rub. there, then, they must be enclosed. they are currently at work. i think everything will be there , everything will be implemented. and we and the bank of russia have a special joint roadmap for the development of new instruments. it's certainly bonds, uh, and above all corporate bonds, a and hmm uh certain uh, maybe new turnover rules. these are definitely funds. it's all there in a whole series, investment funds. stock market. will not close the whole is afraid of a number of the stock market. on the contrary, we will to strengthen and develop, and here, therefore,

a very important direction here is very neat and so filigree. i would say work with the savings of the population, because we see that the population itself is ready to take risks and often take risks. uh, very much too yes, the bank of russia is trying to somehow restrain everything, uh, limit it, but there is a need for people to earn money, but if they have it, we will provide them with tools that will be safe for them for these people, and at the same time they will give investors. uh, reliable long, uh, tools funding, and of course. this is work with development institutions of the whole sonny well, the bank is a factory, project financing of a number of other e projects that are there now, this is a component of growth investment. you said, well, and so it is only capital, and here there will be some restrictions to cook. but the fact is that we believe that now all the restrictions or our

western partners are additional restrictions for us. it's just that they are not needed counterproductively, because , well, there must be some kind of backlash in business, but uh, especially since in the conditions when there is now a reconfiguration of supply chains of technological production chains, this all requires a certain manner of resources. and here there is a danger of simply squeezing, but i will say now that i meet with big business quite a lot. now there is already a complete understanding that there is nowhere to withdraw money and it is very dangerous. this is the most risky type of investment that is now available recently, literally met the other day with the global rpp and there, well, there was one leitmotif. uh, give us reliable instruments for investing money here in russia. here is the situation. she has changed this was not even six months ago. sanctions began with such a clear

, accentuated request, and, of course, we have something to work on here with the bank of russia, andrey romovich, and yet these measures, about which you said, but they are. again, how can you understand. well, you may not agree with this assessment, however. they are tactical in nature. but still, have you already said that you are developing a strategy? i am why they ask the question, because now there is a very sharp discussion of critics of the government, and who say that just without a mobilization economy, the government will not fulfill these instructions that the president has set. what does it mean you know, i'll tell you, so the mobilization economy. so what? yes? yes, what is it that does not exist, there is the concept of a mobilization society, a mobilization economy is part of a mobilization society. uh, i'm not going to lecture nothing now. and who wants to understand what a mobilization society is? and can look

thirties for the ussr that was what i now do not want to criticize. well, it's just a fact , this is one of the models of the mobilization economy, the mobilization economy was created in israel, it was also created at the time. well , she was different. yes. uh, this is always paramilitary history is always the rejection of personal interests, and in relation to the state interesting, the rigid prevalence of the state and so on there is a whole system. e, therefore, i think that there is no point in creating a mobilization economy now in this regard. we just won't be able to do this. and as i say again. well, we have a fairly large number of reserves and levers that we can use in order to solve the tasks set by the presidents and life itself, we have this government with us. and the

government and in the country and in the country. i would put it more broadly here, because it is not only the government, but also the regions. uh, also here you need to look at the extended government on let's call it that. the main thing is that you say it again, if anything, here, if we talk about the long-term agenda long term this trip. this is the first. it is definitely a creation. uh, the most favorable conditions for investors. this is topic number one now, uh, what i'm talking about, the second one is the task of the technological agenda, uh, which is not limited to technological sovereignty, they don't have it there, but a little wider, but significantly wider. and the third is the implementation of, uh, supported social policies that will allow, uh, reduce poverty and gather the economic and economic side to support consumer demand and the fourth

these are the transport and logistics corridors, plus export support, plus there is a whole set of, uh, these targeted industrial projects that need to be implemented there, and i already said there are several dozen of them, and hmm uh, they are quite well calculated now. they were worked out in the government at the so -called country sessions. here they are all there. this is a program up to about the thirtieth year. that is, there is. what to do. there is an understanding. how to do it? understanding how to do it if the situation is not radical will change, because everything we see now is happening in the world. we also underestimate the situation. we are somehow used to thinking that here, uh, we have only problems, but everything is fine there. it's not even that good, everything is stable there. there is nothing like that, rather, on the contrary, now the markets in the world have begun to move. uh, no one to say where this movement is getting. how all this and where it will lead,

no one can. therefore, the forecasts are very different, including quite apocalyptic there. uh, but uh, nobody removed the climate agenda and climate problems. nobody removed the food agenda anywhere. nobody removed the pandemic waves anywhere. eh, and so on. there you understand, we all have this whole story. in other words, this is all happening there, and this also concerns us and our husbands are part of the global economy. yes, and the main thing is outlined. here are a few topics that i would also like you. eh, ask around a little about them, but unfortunately our interview time is not rubber in this sense, but nonetheless. still. i would like to go back to next year's figures once again. it have already said how to predict, such as about gdp and so on, nevertheless. there is one more problem. it's just inflation. and this, respectively, percent. yes, that's because all these voluminous tasks to do with such a level of interest rates, probably.

problematic, how do you assess these conditions? i don’t understand that you won’t fit her party into the central bank, but nevertheless , these are finance conditions, they are tough for the government or not too easy, but for us, uh, the next year in terms of finance is quite tight, that is, we now assume. e deficit for the next year, we understand the amount of borrowing. this is all agreed with the bank of russia, so this task here is a framework for the financial market. it exists and exists in a fairly rigid format. this is a rigid format. ah, the strict prioritization of expenditures and projects that we see there in minakov’s development recently completed this work, but they decomposed and the gdp growth rates for the largest projects that are there, by the way, 21% gives

those projects that, as i said them there somewhere more than once again i will repeat more than two dozen in the first place. these are transport corridors. plus support. it's up to 30 on the horizon until the thirtieth year. they are out of twenty-one percentage points of total growth. for all projects, they give about six, that is, well, even more, uh, a quarter. yes, and there the aviation of the road goes further. there and so on and so forth. everything is history. now, uh, so i want to say again we're on that plan for next year. uh, the situation is more or less clear, and yet, a still, as i understand it, the government would like the ruble exchange rate to be lower, and the rates to be lower as well. how is it possible for the central bank to somehow contrive to do this? the central bank, e- is a colossal move forward with hmm e and

government processes. the bank of russia did not expect such a rapid decline in inflation and the situation of deflation in which we are or very low inflation growth, in which we are now. we are in such a context now in such a situation. we actually have now. uh, well, about two hundredths percent in the world per week there is an increase in inflation. uh, and this is mainly due to the seasonal increase in food prices for fruit products and certain types of services. as for the bulk of food and non-food products, everything is close to zero there. now next year, inflation will be lower next year, most likely, we have it in our forecast. uh, about five or six percent, five and a half percent. i think that it will most likely be lower the bank of russia is monitoring this situation and, of course,

if you see that there are, uh, signs of non-fulfillment of indicators for economic growth, while maintaining the deflationary situation, it will probably go to further soften the policy regarding the exchange rate, otherwise well, there were many discussions on this topic with the bank of russia, but we see that is now moving. so he moved in the right direction. i would say yes, that's how it means. although the problem of the course is one of the most important, but i'll tell you, so it only became such in the fall. that's up to e before autumn or let's say during until maybe there is a third quarter. i thought and still think that the 60 course was a boon, because we had a major problem with critical imports with the restructuring of logistics flows. and now we have freed imports from all the barriers that could make us even

criticized. there, the duties nullified e mission at times, there, and so on. there it is possible that the regulators were weakened very much, for which, in order to quickly, uh, it was possible to rebuild the logistics flows to the east and the goods went into the country and the goods went into the country. we have a problem there now. here, as is known containers. yes, bring a container to the country. he's narrow now. uh, throats arose in order to drag everything in, by the way, an important topic is also uh, but uh, this uh strong ruble has played its steering wheel. here but now now we see that in the conditions when our company's revenues are falling and exports are falling, exports are sinking. our a-a falls, but it is not elastic with us. if you take, well, oil is also, of course, a hydrocarbon, nor an

elastic rate. in general, the income of exporters there yes, they certainly sag, but i once again i say total income is sagging. and under these conditions, we, of course, need to say it well. you have a ruble. it's good to be 70-80. e rubles for the dollar, the ruble exchange rate is such an example, yes, that is, this government is given. ah. i don't want to say that. no, god forbid that he will be like that. i'll start commenting there. and even more what they do there. they can all go completely wrong. that is, you, of course , do not predict the course. you just express your wishes, your wishes, and the course forecast is recorded in the forecast there anyone can read. well, yes, there 70 is once far ahead, but in fact , here he was here last week, yes, but nonetheless oriental. i would like to thank you for the interview. we have discussed

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enemy manpower and equipment in the area of ​​the peschanoe settlement of the lugansk people's republic, up to 30 ukrainian servicemen were destroyed two armored combat vehicles and three macro vehicles in the toliman direction by artillery fire; in this direction were more than 40 ukrainian military personnel, four armored combat vehicles and two pickup trucks, well in donetsk in the course of successful offensive actions, a unit of the 79th air assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine was defeated, up to 60 ukrainian military personnel were destroyed, three infantry fighting vehicles and seven vehicles. in the south-donetsk direction, as a result of a complex fire engagement of enemy units in areas of settlements, pre-cleaning and the successes of the donetsk people's republic , more than 70 ukrainian military personnel,

four armored combat vehicles and two pickup trucks, missiles, troops and artillery were destroyed in a day the reserve command post of the 80th airborne assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine was hit near the city of kramatorsk of the donetsk people's republic, as well as 67 artillery units in firing positions. manpower and military equipment in 89 districts during the counter-battery struggle. in the area of ​​​​the settlement, a hidden firing position was destroyed along with the calculation of the m77 artillery system, made by the united states, from which shelling of residential areas of the city of donetsk was carried out. another n77 artillery system was destroyed in near the settlement of preobrazhenka in the zaporozhye region in the areas of the settlements of nevskaya luhansk people's republic and seversk of the donetsk people's republic , a combat vehicle of the hurricane multiple launch rocket system, as well as two combat

vehicles of the grad multiple launch rocket systems in the areas of the settlements of krasnogorovka and prechistovka of the donetsk people's republic were destroyed two ukrainian self-propelled artillery installations were destroyed at firing positions with 21 carnations in the districts of the city of kupyansk, kharkov region, velikoye novosyolka the donetsk people of the republic of the other grigorovka of the kherson region destroyed four pigeons 100 b and two howitzers d-20 investigative air defense three ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were shot down in the areas of settlements in a day. olginka guselskaya donetsk people's republic as well as possible zaporozhye region. in addition, two missiles of the hurricane multiple launch rocket system were intercepted in the area of ​​​​the settlement of kostogryzl in the kherson region, as well as radiation missiles manufactured by the united states in the area of ​​​​the city of debaltsevo of the donetsk people's republic, just from the beginning, the special operation was destroyed.