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your programs, they are very convincing and deep. for which i want to tell you separately. thank you the russian academy of sciences is restarting the system of independent examination of scientific activity, while applied science is now aimed mainly at meeting the needs of the armed forces to ensure sovereignty in microelectronics and aircraft construction, deputy prime minister dmitry chernyshenko spoke about this, as well as about the digitalization of the state administration of domestic tourism, in a final interview with our channel. hello dmitry nikolaevich good afternoon. let's traditionally sum up the results of 22 years with you, and as usual for the blocks that you supervise, as deputy prime minister, i propose to start with science , there is a state program, scientific and technological development. here, how do you assess its results this year, which, most importantly,

can be identified? well, first of all, you need to understand the structure of managing science throughout and the fact that forty were created on behalf of the president. seventh uh, state program. uh, the program is a program to start technological development, which has collected all but the cost of civil. uh, the scientific developments of about 34 different departments in one program for an unprecedented amount of 1.3 trillion rubles makes it possible to manage science quite effectively, especially now at a time when the president has set a task from us. achieving technological sovereignty and uh, you need to distinguish between import substitution and technological sovereignty, uh, technological sovereignty is still a country's ability, and firstly, the ability to own technology, that is, intellectual property. it must e

belong to the country, or have a license for e, technology and e, produce these technologies in the country e, or be able to very quickly these technologies. uh, start reproducing and scaling in case you need to. just import to replace your first line. perhaps that is why it is necessary to understand that it unites the sphere of science. uh, well, very different directions, but in fact , this is the intersection of three large areas, that is, these are the areas of education, yes, without which it is impossible to train personnel who will do science. and this is the science itself from mental to applied and there is the creation of prototypes there and their entry into the market. and, of course, uh, technological entrepreneurship is a customer who should bring this technology to consumers and commercialize it. and here is this connection in

both directions, and it is extremely important understand that this is a huge area with more than 400,000 different participants and it is extremely important to effectively administer them. uh, there, through the state task through uh, subsidizing scientific developments through grants, but they all must, of course, be meaningful . and now, when russia was under uh, unprecedented pressure uh from there and our attempt we are doomed to some kind of ovtarky, when we are disconnected from technology, we are not given these technologies, and now in fact there is a window of opportunity for us, when science is working on

very specific applied things that we need to replace very quickly now. uh, here and then get ahead and create our own and uh, now this is a window of opportunity, but it can be short, because all of a sudden, and we understand that there is a big market. e russia yes , anyway. a company that, under pressure , left here with their technologies. they then they will still try to return to this market, so it's time, uh, these technologies to replace applied things. they are now aimed precisely at very quickly replacing the technologies that we need now. and of course, first of all, to meet our needs. armed forces and of course, this is for security. uh sovereignty in all areas related to such. uh, very important areas for us. like, for example, microelectronics or aircraft building, and here, well, very interesting results. uh,

of course, we have already achieved even during this year, which allow us to be optimistic that we are sufficient for our country to have a better level of sovereignty. and how and what tools can we use in order to develop our science? , which is. uh, such very effective federal projects that allowed. uh , keep our scientific educational base, what is called the form, so that they can somehow make these developments and technologies for our technology entrepreneurs very quickly. it is a platform rather scientific and technological

entrepreneurship. this is the name of the federal project, and within the framework of it, advanced engineering schools are being created. where a is just this connection between the technological customer and the one who receives an education and creates technologies. she is very, uh, tough, so i would say knitted in order to get a concrete result, ah, there are, er, very important projects that start from the student bench, when we, er, help our students, there is a system. uh, grant and support, uh, your startup, uh, thousands of students. uh, only this year received were selected by the competition received. uh, a student represents a million rubles for your startup and he already receives, but serious support in order to develop your startup to some kind of proposal that venture investors already have there or he himself could already

develop, uh, to some real commercial product. and so, and there are a lot of such projects that allow this cross-cutting one, and to make the connection between a technological entrepreneur and science, well, quite specific, and so that this can be controlled because, as i said, the number of authors is very large, but it is used, and the state information management system of science, which allows at all stages of technological reworked the so-called levels of technological readiness, and provides noiseless. here's the move, starting from selected scientific topics and the consciousness of the scientific group, and it can be distributed to support through all levels of readiness, because you are not necessarily at all stages. you may be competent. eh, there are so

-called, and valleys of death, when it is very difficult to bring from an idea to a specific prototype. and here , too, development institutions are picking up and financing, yes, so that they can overcome this and bring it to the point where the technology will be interesting, so that the entrepreneur can already use this technology through technology brokers, and bring it to market. and this is the path of the explorer. it has been carefully analyzed. we figured out where the different bottlenecks were, what was missing from our research. we are constantly optimizing these paths to ensure that the work of the researcher is effective, but in exchange we get full transparency. we see the result of his activities, it is impossible to report, just an article or just some reports. ah, the examination, which

is now being restarted by the new head of the russian academy of sciences, another krasnikov, and creating a. kiss. uh, such a very powerful system of state expertise in the field of science. ah, and the unification of not only the e experts of this member of the academy of sciences themselves, but also all scientists in general, a through a complex rating system that allows the most effective experts to be absolutely anonymous a and a expertise, and the results of scientific activity, this is extremely important. well, the elements of family management in general are science, which allows you to give an objective assessment of any

scientific activity, because it is in different stages. well, there may be technological readiness there and there are no universal experts who could evaluate this. but among scientists. uh, well, quite a lot of expertise, so finishing about our science and technological sovereignty, i can say that there is an order from the president. in my opinion , it is effectively carried out and we, uh, can present society. uh, specific significant results of this activity and decades. uh, science and technology that presidents announced from the first chapter of the decade, it is just ending and it ended with a congress of young scientists, where we were able to show e and russia to the whole world, and the achievements that our scientists and our modern young scientists are already doing every day, in addition, also from

this year there is a profile deputy minister in all departments that smoked. exactly this scientific and technological sphere, for what? it is necessary? this is a very important element of the entire vertical of science management at the top, which is the science council, which heads the president and the council determines strategic tasks, just here is the strategy of scientific and technological development, which is determined by the direction of this e, the result of the work of the councils is approved by the president, and the government, as an executive body . uh, at our level, this is the commission for technological development, which already manages, in fact, the executive authorities of the ministries and departments, in which a responsible person has now appeared. e, rank e is not lower than the banner, and which is responsible for effective implementation of this strategy. and under these ministries,

branch ministries have also been created. uh, competence center. e, in which this representative is from the industries that are supervised by the ministry, but there are precisely the same technological entrepreneurs who are interested in science giving them the result that is required there, new materials, new properties, and new systems of some kind and and these are the deputy heads for technological development. and this is like an analogue of our digital special forces, which mikhail vladimirovich made such an effective network 3 years ago. ah , yes, yes, according to which it began as the head of the transformation of deputy ministers in all departments, and then the instructions of the president. they also appeared in all regional executive bodies, so i think that the next step will be just the appointment of such deputy heads of governors, in

science, which is the connection between a technological entrepreneur and uh scientific research, they will make it there fast short in the absence of bureaucracy and focused on results. you have already mentioned the topic of digitalization. what are the main projects in this direction. you can highlight in the twentieth, of course, uh, first of all. uh, we need to talk about the indicators that the president has set for us as a whole separate national development goal, digital transformation, the fifth is not enough. which industries can boast that they have a separate emotional development goal, and i would say about the success of our digital transformation. eh, the best. on in fact, the world bank organizations that were not friendly to us said at all, but rated russia as a country that is in the top 10 countries, and in terms of digitalization in the public administration system. and for us, this is an unexpected

recognition of the result of the government's work. vladimirovich a and here it is necessary to say that one of the indicators is the fifth goal of digital transformation. this is digital maturity. this is such a very complex aggregate indicator, where a digital maturity e ten industries, e, advanced, which are managed by the authorities executive branch and plus five branches, uh, which we manage the regional executive authorities. for each of them, there are defined, and there are from ten to fifteen parameters. and that's where they all gather. and even there, a comprehensive assessment fails. here we are ahead of this parameter. e, in accordance with the full, that is, this suggests that digitalization in all industries, a and digital maturity is proceeding at a faster rate than we even expected ourselves, but as far as the interests of citizens are concerned. only of course citizens. and you need to have what is called e,

the internet is also available. you are the absence of digital inequality, and it is achieved by the fact that even the most remote settlements are small, settlements with a population of 100 to 500 people, and a connection should come, and a stable internet should come. a-a and e this year, more than cumulative current, but 1800, but base stations, which provided 14,000 connection points in these small villages. e appeared, and besides the fact that it is clear that we connected all socially significant objects such as there are fapa schools, there are hospitals, fire departments and so on. they are all connected to the internet. all this is done in order to, well, the internet, in fact. this is just transport a and in our country it is one of the most affordable in the world, that is, the tariffs are one of the lowest in russia, in sixth place

in the world in terms of internet availability. and when there is this stable connection - this means that every citizen has digital equality, and can receive public services on our portal of public services more than 100 million unique users who receive hundreds of millions of uh government services, uh a year uh . this is already hmm, such a routine, everyone is used to the routine of filing an application to the registry office. uh, they pay for the information, and all this is done very easily and, of course, mine, and the principle of the government ’s client-centricity, when we do everything for the interest of a particular person , is that public services are provided proactively, that is, without a declarative nature. that is, if something is supposed to, for example, uh, a child is born, he registered and then immediately, and mom

receives maternity capital, she does not need to fill out anything where everything happens automatically. yes, this all happens automatically and, uh, just digitalization. it allows you to understand very clearly. uh, here are the criteria according to which, uh, this or that state service should be provided in accordance with those rules and justice, on which there is and a allows it. well, in any situation, for example, even if we take a-a, this is also the mobilization of the portal of public services. uh, worked like feedback system, when as citizens or family members of the mobilized could. ah, leave information or there is a complaint about uh, that, as it were, something was done unfairly in their opinion and authorities. uh, the original executive authorities. there, literally in a day , they had to work out, but meaningfully, er,

this statement and they returned for an answer. start not just refuse. it is to help solve this problem and more than 25.000. uh, these are the questions uh were worked out through the portal of public services and the citizen himself in his personal account received. the answer is yes, yes, a separate block of questions is connected, of course. with the development of domestic tourism, people began to travel around the country more. here. how many people are already traveling in russia, which destinations? and , of course, you know what kind of support the government provides. the main thing that is needed for tourism in our country. uh, here we are , uh, for a long time uh, these are incredible natural resources and all climatic zones. ah, it remains only to create. e, a sufficient amount of infrastructure and on this

infrastructure e to provide e, necessary level of services and tourism products. here, to do it just on behalf of the president. uh, just over a year ago, it was, uh, launched. uh, created the national project, tourism and hospitality industry. this year alone, about sixty-eight billion. 40 rub. it was sent. and to various events of this national project. mainly to create infrastructure and support our tourism demand, which led to the fact that we saw that the number of tourists who traveled this year, and it let's say it approached the pre-covid level, that is, 95% here is the nineteenth year. uh, number of uh internal uh trips. and this is a good indicator. this suggests that well, our tourist has somewhere to go. well,

it is clear that we must stop there. by the way, one more indicator. this, of course, and how does the tourism industry feel? this is the number of e jobs, but it has grown. yes, it has grown by compared to e. uh, in our 20th year out of 21 years, we have steady growth and approximately, 2.4 million uh people are employed by us uh in the tourism industry, and most importantly, we are now seeing a boom in, uh, the construction of tourism infrastructure, because the ministry of economic development has created such, and the conditions are such preferences for investors, uh, who create hotels, but only uh, zero vat e, for 5 years. until the year the hotel was put into operation, there

was also a very strong incentive, of course, this interest subsidy has become on loans for those projects that are recognized as important for the development of tourism, and we are now on fulfill those indicators that are in the project, it just helps through the tourism corporation. rf to create, uh, as many uh affordable hotel rooms as possible, it is clear that there is a certain cycle of creating infrastructure. it's not just building guests. no, this is all related infrastructure. this is the logistics such, yes, the road. yes, there is the energy of water disposal and so on. here is the orchestration. it involves about 16 different departments. e, who are participating in the framework of our project to create this infrastructure are big projects now are created, which just have to bring. uh, big effect. um, well, for example, on

behalf of the president. here is the creation of a-a large clusters of year-round beach tourism, and for our residents , it is now being launched on his behalf for a project called new anapa e, where 15,000 hotel rooms will be created in beru in e. for family tourism. uh, this is a unique place 25 km from anapa international airport 20 km from the railway station. e, sand spit 17 km long, approximately 1,7,000 hectares. yes, a unique place. where will, well, brand new, but established, er, resort. uh, well , this is done in partnership with the krasnodar territory, and

unique conditions for investors are created there. well, lots will be distributed according to the competition in order to quickly create infrastructure there that will allow attracting about 2.5 million tourists a year additionally. but the most important thing, as i said, is that it will be year-round. we understand that the season. uh, even on the black sea it is quite short, but at the same time, and more than 300 e, there are even 300-20 days a year the sun, uh, their task is to make such an infrastructure that it would be pleasant to relax there. eh, all year round. i understand correctly that not only in the krasnodar territory, but in general , foreign tourists can also come to other destinations in the country. and for their convenience, given the complexity of bank payments, transactions and transfers, it is planned to create a special card, when this is done, the ministry of economic development instructed, to

develop such a card on it, it can be virtual, it can be a plastic card of the world, which allows any non-resident of our country, upon entering the country, to very quickly activate this card and transfer the necessary amount of funds to it and, for example, transfer funds when you leave. back your cards without conflicting with any international law or restriction. ah, the central bank is actively working on this issue and supports us, so i hope that in the near future. this will be done so far what we are seeing, and for 9 months of this year by more than 7.5 million foreign citizens. we entered our country. here, despite all the horror stories that the restrictions that friendly countries tell about everything, and if we talk about the topic of sports, of course, we see such a very massive cancellation of russian athletes in international competitions, but this does not prevent us from

holding our other competitions. here, how do you rate? results of this year? it was a rich competition, despite the fact that e us unfair, but limited access to our athletes to some higher -level consciousness enough to remember. completely unfair and very hurtful. a-a rejection our paralympic athletes to participate in the paralympic games in beijing are prohibited by the international paralympic committee. uh , it is clear that they robbed themselves, of course, because no international competition without russian athletes can be considered, uh, complete. well, let's say, yes, a full-fledged yes, and uh, any world champion or there from the paralympic olympic champion, if he received his award in the absence of our athletes, uh, then he understands that this medal is defective. well, it's up to them. and what did we and we do in the shortest possible time

organized absolutely uh, according to the same format, competitions with the participation of friendly countries, but it was called together a point of sports for our paralympic athletes. we made the winter games in khanty-mansiysk, and then in the summer we made the same games according to the list program in sochi, we had a fairly large number of international competitions this year, which we organized, for example, the friendship games were held in kazan where a large number of , and foreign er, athletes participants. we have asian children in vladivostok a and many other order at 14.000. uh, various events have passed, and it is clear that we cannot say that everything is fine with us in this direction, because we are forced, uh, in fact, to face every day with

restrictions from international sports federations. and this creates certain problems. but there are countries that they adhere to this policy of restrictions with which we build our alliances. your sports relationship is, of course, first of all, a strange sco with the brix cis and, in partnership, with which we will organize and new and sports association association associations a and. uh, we hold competitions. judging by the statements that are now being made in the media, russian athletes with certain restrictions will still be able to go to the olympics in paris. here, do you think this is possible, unfortunately, the international olympic committee is not an independent organization, as we see , they are subject, as it were, to declare their independence, and to direct influence from the

state department, it acts absolutely on their orders, and, therefore, they are with one hand , certainly, honest association. uh, who was in the eyes on december 9th, took the necessary measures to ensure the participation of russian and belarusian athletes, well, really without a flag and an anthem, and maybe, we still don’t know how, uh. well, if they nevertheless allow ours, because they actually understand that their product , uh, the olympic games, is very much sinking and degrading without our participation, therefore, on the one hand. they certainly want, uh, to please their foreign masters from the other side. they want our athletes with all the humiliations, but still how to attract. and now we still see that our athletes are allowed to the qualifying competitions. of course, we hope that russian

athletes will be able to participate in the olympic games in paris in the 24th year. e hmm we will follow the developments thank you very much for the interview and of course, happy new year and good luck in achieving all those goals and tasks that are set today. thank you very much and merry christmas and a happy new year to you russian frigate admiral gorshkov prepares for a combat exit to the sea. the ship is equipped with zircons hypersonic missiles and is completely ready to perform its tasks. how was the test exit of the sea. help for pregnant women and children of all ages russian families with children can already today apply for a new single payment through public services. how many children will the monthly allowance last?