and so, of course, uh, there is an understanding of what, how, how to organize this work. we have a corresponding synodal department for charity and social service. i can say with full responsibility that he works very professionally and the dioceses are involved with the help of this department. so i don’t think that there is still such a clear understanding here, in terms of deadlines, there is an understanding of the needs that are much more important, i can say that, let’s say, and the church hospital of st. non-church in general, they turned out, for example, in mariupol or there it was delivered to gorlovka, and the x-ray machine was mobile, and this was the blessing of the patriarch with his direct participation. he was purchased. yes, and that is the first days our doctors understood what was needed and so. hey, we're talking to you now. could the doctor be at the hospital or him? is now in mariupol and with other

doctors. how do you personally define the main soviet main church event for 22 years? you know, that's for myself personally since you asked, i believe that's in church living space, uh, twenty- two twenty-one twenty-three. the main event is easter, which and around which the life of a believer is always organized, no matter what happens, and here we are talking under the door of christmas christmas is the most important event, because if for a christian these events cease to be the main ones, if everything else is not filled with meanings , which gives us easter and christmas, then what exactly is his christianity. if, nevertheless, we say so, by all means, i have to answer what happened. i think that, of course, this reaction is not an event, but rather for me it's an attitude, but people, but about the church, if we talk,

it's like a church, but it could, but quickly and very effectively. organize help for people who find themselves in a difficult situation. at the same time, it is not easy to organize help, because , well, we have a lot of people who managed to organize, in general, the society demonstrates amazingly. well, i do not know the margin of strength of emotion strength is amazing. that's what i think to people, just in legs must be bowed, but, as they are, but in this situation they live, they act, they collect funds there. but the church still gives. you understand here. uh, let's say no one can talk like a priest. there with a wounded soldier or with the mother of a dead soldier, or with the wife of a man who went behind the ribbon there, and she does not know what is happening to him now . i just know a case when psychologists came to the hospital and the

conversation didn’t work out, then the priest came, and he was able to talk to everyone, so, of course, here this is the most important for me. and what? events m-m, well, this is probably not an event, you know, again in terms of the state of society. hmm, this society, which has grown strongly over these months with the subjectivity of society, is gaining its voice people are actively involved in life and in general behave very, very confidently, this seems to me a very important indicator. about how our society is developing today in the twenty- second year, the state duma passed a record number of laws in the history of the parliament. which ones are you welcome? well, since there were really very, very many of them. now i'm probably forgetting something. can i talk about, uh, what did we directly work with? a and a, what was important for the church, of course, is the ban on

surrogacy services for foreigners that sounds terrible. mm. we would like to believe and hope that in general this topic will go away, not only in connection with this, so to speak , foreign track, but this is a very important result and the church together with the deputies. i think i did a lot of it. it undoubtedly. uh, propaganda ban. e, lgbt and pedophilia with all the understanding that even the most wonderful law does not automatically change the moral state of society, but it defines how the patriarch always emphasizes he defines attitudes towards the state, and he says that they are ready to consider the state the norm . and this is very important for all that, tom once again emphasized and the holy one also often speaks about this, which of course. to change the moral climate in society, it requires more than just the adoption of the right laws, but the importance of this law cannot be underestimated. it was difficult to discuss the law, which is sometimes

called the laws of biometric data yes, the creation of a unified information system. yes , the patriarch even to volodya well, to turn , we spent several months in close cooperation. the law has, of course, been rewritten. and the fact that it was not only in terms of volume there, in my opinion, 115 pages in the first reading, when it was adopted, and as i said, about 160 magicians make a mistake, but not much. and this is actually a different law, everything, but wishes churches. uh, very important to us they were taken into account and hmm and now it's very important to clarify that something happened. well, look, what is fundamental for the church in general in the digital topic , not only in this e, directly related to this law, in general. the first thing is that a person should have freedom of choice. that is, a person cannot be forced, and in this case, to surrender biometric data. he should be entitled to an alternative. that's all, he says, it doesn't matter. for what reasons does he speak? i don’t want to, i don’t know where to enter by biometrics, so

the state must ensure that its rights will not be. to which they will not only have the right to refuse to give up data, but he will not be struck in the rights that he will receive in full, uh, all these services that, let’s say, the state or there, uh, banks provide some, yes, if he refuses, he has the right to refuse, and he should not be denied rights. all this was implemented as a result of the amendments that were adopted. the law now presupposes a form of refusal, which was not the case. it was an initiative, but legal uh the right to control orthodox church and formulated form. that is, if a person is worried, and many people are worried, they can fix their refusal and the person cannot after that either. he has a document, yes, which will be issued by the state, stating that he refuses to submit biometric data; this was not the case before. this is a very important ban on the collection of genomic genetic information, and, as fixed by law, is also the most important result of

our discussions and the adoption of those, uh, something concerns that we indicated, of course, is very important. eh, as we understand. there is the law is the right to apply the practice that will take place in practice, but for this purpose, forms of public control are just provided. this is also very important. this is also the result of the discussion of these changes of amendments that have been made. well, let's see how this will work. once again i want to say what is important, but to explain to people. i see that now this is happening on the part of the min figures, if in the state duma and on the part of the family, by the way, it seems to me that it is very high quality. i'm still critical i treat my colleagues, because forgive me, well, since the males belong and, probably, have some kind of right and often we don’t really explain to us some things, especially such complex ones that cause uh fair or it doesn’t matter, well, fears in any case now here i see the flow of the accents that are being made. it seems to me that it is quite qualitative to

talk about a qualitative explanation of what happened, but here is public control of law in relation to practice, let's see how everything will happen the state duma, as it seems to me, still sometimes acts inconsistently, that is, on the one hand, a ban for foreigners on surrogacy services, on the other hand. here's the latest news, literally. yesterday i read the initiatives of a number of deputies. it means to make free storage of sperm biomaterials for those who were mobilized, it means for young people, so that, as i understand it, the wives who remained here, cases of the death of their husband, could then have offspring from him. if it outgrows. really. in which would you approve of the legislative initiative or are you not ready? to tell, firstly, it still has nothing to do with surrogate motherhood in this case, yes, it is rather connected with eco tam technologies and so on. and here at the church. uh, there is a discussion here in general inside the church, so the question is, a

but usually at the moment, uh, this is the subject, but the pastoral conversation with the family and the decision that here they make is taken by the family, naturally, because the person, well, man has free will, and no one can take away this free will from him, because the lord gave him this free will, but this is an object. i repeat today. this is the subject of hmm and dialogue in this case, the conversation and care of the shepherd about the family, because it cannot be here. here in these questions. it's extremely subtle complex uh, people come to the priest with weeping eyes. you see, there can be no formal answer here, but a reference to the letter of the law, even church law. here it is always pastoral participation. do you know the story about it? i’ll tell you, it’s a slightly different topic, but it shocked me. at one time, the lighting told me, and a parishioner came to him. it 's kind of a tough situation. she says, i, uh, i have no choice. i have to have an abortion, and

he began to dissuade her and could not speak. well, i couldn’t, it didn’t work out. there, he spent some time and everything was there. he's fine, i 'll go with you. yeah they say in what sense does he say, well, i can’t leave you and say there, get out, get out of my eyes and i’m a shepherd and you, we are christians, i’ll go with you. to be next to you in a harder time, she cried and wouldn't. you understand this pastoral attitude towards a person. this is the role of the church in our life. and who for you was the main discovery of the twenty-second year, the discovery of the word is so binding, i allow myself hmm as briefly as possible. yes , i'm sorry, it's just that it will not be possible to name a few names very briefly if mine is about people. yes , i understand correctly. well, now i can’t help but remember eduard nikolaevich artemiev and who, just a few he left a few days ago, and for me it was a revelation to get to know him personally, because i did

an interview with him and, uh, it was an extremely important conversation for me. he is an absolutely amazing person, of course, and this is such. eh, here is a child in the evangelical sense of the word, at the same time the most brilliant and talented composers are a person with such a lively perception of life and, uh, feelings of music, a deepest religious feeling, his story about how he heard music on valaam when he was. well, now, i even say now, i have goosebumps there. that's how he told it. although this now belongs to the category of indescribable words, but he managed to describe it and he is amazingly delicate. when we agreed to meet, i just didn't know it. i told him, we would have lost him, we couldn’t get through, but he has e, he calls me back later. well, moreover , he didn’t know me, of course, he’s just a missed call, which of us returns missed calls to unknown

numbers today. uh, can you imagine there is no call and it says, he says, this is eduard artemyev i'm sorry, i had surgery. here i am now in intensive care, turn on the phone. i see you that you called me, than i can you listen to me. i was completely overwhelmed. this is some kind of , well, some kind of amazing attitude towards people. yes, here he is, like a man called, he knows that something is needed. here is eduard nikolaevich, of course, of course, i had the honor , with the blessing of the patriarch, to present the patriarchal award in the outstanding scientist of asia, alibek, not so much in the year, but to our philologist, the companion of alexei fedorovich losev , the great russian philosopher, on october 26, the lake troubles did not turn 100 years on the patriarch. uh, hmm honored her with a high church award, and the order of the saint is equal to the apostle princess. olga of the first degree. and i've been happy. it was a great honor to be able to 15 minutes. and we, with the dean of the faculty of philosophy of moscow state university and all the cane kozyrev

, visited the basics, or poor, and these 15 minutes. they mean a lot to me because, well, i never thought i'd get to see her. although i read and understood its significance for russian science in general. these are such scientists. she is so alone. that's it for me, of course, that's it too and the name years for all our science is the most important moment. i, of course, would also name my friend, but also alexander sergeevich khodakovsky, who knows him very well today, since he is not only, uh, the creator. eh, the founder of the vostok brigade, eh, but he is a man who, eh, tells the truth, so we are talking today, yes, you can’t lie and you need to stop lying. it's dangerous to take. but he speaks the truth and at the same time he surprisingly accurately and subtly finds the words he is a man who, uh, has been fighting there for 8 years, but he has not lost, not humanity, not some philosophical

depth. uh, he doesn't have any kind of senseless and unnecessary pathos, which sometimes unfortunately occurs and uh, here he is just when you meet such people. hmm, otherwise it helps a lot. why do i open it to them? yes, i have known him for a long time, but simply, because in connection with all the events and with what is happening now. this affects all of us. and here he is, i also recorded a conversation with him. i asked him, uh, i couldn’t help but ask, how to treat enemies, and he says it noticed, but i don't use it, but the word enemy, i say opponents. and i say, what is the difference, he says, the enemy is a temporary category. here of all the three people you are talking about, i personally knew eduard, nikolaevich, artemev. really an amazing person. on my own i can say that i remember how my colleagues talked about him, when during the film expedition everyone

rested there in the evenings after filming - something in a restaurant and he walked, which means he recorded the sounds of grass, the wind of a bird, there he spoke nightingales crickets sing in different ways in different cities , of course, he was amazing, a man who is appreciated outside of our country too. here we are now in the pre-christmas christmas address. uh, pontic, urged to stop immediately. e war in ukraine what can we expect from the patriarch's christmas address, you know, it's not difficult to make some hmm statements for everything good against everything bad. and you can even tick yourself something. here i am, look said or wrote made. and, of course, i can’t say exactly right now, but i can quote it there. here we wait. we'll hear from you in a few days. all those of the patriarch, but i just can not imagine saying

what the patriarch always speaks about and cannot help but talk about. ah, referring to the tragedy we're all going through right now. this is definitely a tragedy. namely, as a patriarch, as a christian, and he always speaks of gospel love, and we must understand that this is not just you know, these are the beautiful words of the amazing books said, well, depending on peacetime. but this is what is sharp necessary now and you know it's interesting here hmm somewhere else. recently, i read reflections on the topic of what a what is the antonym of love, but right off the bat it somehow says hate, right? and this is certainly true, but also fear. indeed, the scripture says that love completely casts out fear. and so the patriarch speaks about this very often, and of course on christmas, which we perceive, as a holiday of our hope in

the most global sense, but at the same time, in a very intimate personal way, i think that there will be prayers and words of the patriarch. well, so we will hear and i am sure that this will help many people a lot. you continue to teach imo shortly before the new year visited sirius and were a member of the student forum. your move, where they talked about why a university is needed at all. a indeed, why do we need a university, especially when we, uh, de facto, left the points system. well, you once talked about the balance system, yes, what is it? in general, there is no such thing as a disaster in this. but no, and this does not cancel the existing problems in our education, and they are not directly connected in any way with the exit from the points system. and i ask. soon you mentioned sirius, but for the first time i was there and to be honest. for me. it was not easy there, i had two lectures, not very important, but not an easy meeting, because after all, these are schoolchildren, this is not the audience

that i'm used to, and once again i want to bow low to the teachers, because this is an audience much more complex in my opinion . well, among other things. i'm not a teacher for them, yes, i arrived, there, uh, and there was such a conversation, just guys. to me liked very much. eh, this is the speed of thinking and questions. completely unexpected. i, well, i told them, but there is a childish immediacy. no, it was there that there was some depth and freshness of the look, and you know, there isn’t, this student’s one. well, guys, what are the questions? and when the exams for what will be on the exam? and here, in fact, and even such completely unexpected ones, we spoke of the science of the art of the league as a way of knowing the world. this was the topic of my lecture, and there is a boy of about 12 years old. he probably forced me directly. sweat, to be honest, well, then he came up. er, well, we took a picture. now not without it. so. that's why i remembered about it, why do we need a university in order to have these guys who are now at school with such talented guys. as you remember, i am a

supporter of the fact that universities are a special view, and there should not be many of them, that we now have too many universities a and this leads to. in what sense did the concept depreciate in general? a university is needed in order to, but such talented bright guys, consistently move to this step above the school, so that they can get really very serious deep knowledge there. we are here in the student forum, just the same one, the course of which we remembered. uh, when they said why do we need a university, and well, there were different participants, the students also said, and there was a lot of this again , that this is the place where you make acquaintances through missions. well, in short, we are talking about a social club. it's all important and communication and connections and friendship, but this cannot be the subject of the university, because it is in another life. it's all secondary. but all the same, knowledge is expert knowledge

, professional knowledge of a special kind. yes , absolutely special skills that allow, well, to distinguish genuine knowledge, so to speak , from the scientific, and pseudoscientific that the university, yes, and of course when communicating. here's hmm the most important thought for me when communicating with hmm world culture in the broadest sense of the word on a very, uh, deep level. that is i’ll say it again, maybe even we remembered this last time with you, that hmm, this means for me that the techie should be familiar with dante’s divine comedy, relatively speaking, and the humanities should know who einstein and stephen hawking are and what are they there to say that? it is then that this person has university knowledge, then he understands what the scientific picture of the world is. and then these people are able to make breakthroughs into the future. these are the people and i saw it in children. it 's some kind of university that these kids need organically from this unique place. sirius has passed. uh, to the same unique

places, so that everyone in this social get-together does not dissolve there. eh, this is very dangerous now about sad things. i know many mgimo launchers of our university in the twenty-second year after the announcement at the beginning of my own and later. uh, second wave. after the announcement of mobilization, a large number of people left the country asking for transcripts of the translation of diplomas into english. ah, it’s not even the number of people who leave that upsets me, but their quality upsets you, that such a trend is observed and that with which inch ones leave. yeah, uh, i don't know, there are exact numbers on how many people left, but it's definitely far. not only are graduates a meme, they are first and foremost, but definitely frustrating because, well, somehow internally for me. not only is there no choice, but even the question of where you are, where you should live, so that it does not happen. here's what doesn't happen. what do you have to do for

you to leave? yes, nothing, well, if only they are deported for some reason, but i don’t know what i should do then to make it happened, but at the same time, you understand, it seems to me that any generalization is unfair. yes, among those people who left, there are very different people. there are people who got scared and left. i even have some acquaintances who have left and are not very good at explaining. why. here they somehow know, everyone fled, i fled, yes, they took it and left, they come trying to somehow explain. why someone has already returned, as we know. there are people who left. and they, uh, live there somewhere or try. this one category of people to them one relationship. there are people who have left and start talking nasty things about their country. this is a different category of people. here is the first category, which we said does not belong to the second one, yes, the category of people who have already spoken there, so many things, uh, and a person. everyone has the right to their opinion, another thing is that not all

opinions are equally valuable and important. eh, it depends on what's worth with it. it's just that this is a stupid phrase from my subjective opinion. you can think differently or the person is ready to somehow argue, how much a person has a position. and this is a rarity, we say, here everyone has their own. yes, no, everyone has their own positions. well this is a great deception of the modernity of the internet space the position suggests. argumentation understanding of the situation some serious people deep experts. uh, they show some confusion, yes, in their assessments, and this is normal, because being inside the process. you can’t evaluate it, the historical distance must pass , you understand? today we give some more or less balanced assessments there, we understand that happened there in 1991 when the soviet union collapsed but we understand that because we know the consequences and we are talking about it in 2022. and who in the ninety-first year understood, even from the brightest bright minds and i'm not talking about who could foresee. yes, therefore, when a person there gives some

assessment of insignificance today, that's why, well , how, how does he have a nemo diploma or not, this is, of course, called the corresponding reaction. and what is your understanding of the nasty things that criticize actions about russia power - is disgusting? ah. it depends what actions how yes what is the criticism connected with, huh? this is mysterious, i understand, first of all, when it goes over to the assessment of the people, when, well, when they start talking about a nation of slaves, about people who generally have nothing in their soul, so to speak, who understands everything with them, and so on, when it comes over, you know, these are the global estimates. eh, in such large-scale categories, this is in my opinion. well, uh, well, some stupidity is just fine. what are you think about such radical calls, like the one voiced by dmitry medvedev, not to let those who relocate russia to them in russia. well , as i said,

we can distinguish at least three, or even more categories among those who left. therefore, i would be so broad, so to speak, not in this. didn't go here, very different people for different reasons, in different ways. they behave. in general, i supporters individually approach honestly, that is, someone could not be allowed back. it depends. well, first of all, someone just doesn't will come by himself. well, free will, so to speak, well, then the end of the program is the traditional question that i ask almost all of my guests, what the victory of russia will mean for you personally. well, since you are focusing on the personal. then i won't talk about some formal categories, yes, which , in general, are more or less understandable, yes, but for me personally. uh, because this situation revealed a lot of things. and uh. he outlined some dead ends in which our society has entered. yes, i don’t know professional in human still in in some way, on my own today, they already talked about the fact that now

this topic is getting tougher, that you need to stop lying there, that you can’t do something for show. what didn't you say for how long? about you, it won’t go on at all, then for me, of course, but some i would say so. the qualitative and correct way out and the end of the whole situation lies in changing the person and society so that we really stop letting that happen. yes, so that this lie is possible. i'm not so naive as to believe that, well, let's all stop lying tomorrow, everything will go crazy there, it won't happen, but let's hmm, i don't know, some people come to me, bring presentations and offer some projects, which they themselves do not believe and no one believes. and when i ask the question, why do they say? well , it seems like it's accepted, right? here, let's do what is accepted and what does not work, what is not lifeless is meaningless, just try minimize in our lives. and these are qualitative changes. we

talked a lot about education to our people, including today, so that some serious changes in education would take place. hmm. this, of course, will be for me. uh, a kind of victory because we are in situations that affect all life of all life. today, absolutely everyone many thanks to vladimir romanovich for this interview. thank you naughty 2

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