uh, you know, everyone has their own fear of god everyone has an understanding of the inner soul , because people have not degraded, as someone sometimes says there to the end, that is, everything is there, and it’s just, probably, as they say, because there were even questions those who guarded us, like, but, and you remember us in prayers. but i wanted to ask, did you have any such human conversations with representatives of the sbu representatives, i did not see them again. here is the basement from his basement lisichanskaya never saw them again. that is, according to the opinion, the investigation did not go, in general, that is, there were even the first months of summer. in general, i did not see anyone, except for my lawyer, who came once a week. i have not seen anyone from the prison administration by the prison administrations. yes, there was communication, that is, they communicated with them, while he somehow treated me like that at first. i'm a little hostile. here, and then they treated me so well. we had conversations with him. i mean, uh,

ideologically your points of contact, where were on what topics in the main church. mostly faith, basically, faith here is a russian no this topic was not discussed. although there are all russian-speaking this topic. in general, here is how. basically , all political moments left them, so they left. i didn't start either, because well, why? as they say, i don't know who is watching them. and how do people behave, why? that is, how to substitute them? that is, why inflate some kind of hatred or something else, uh, that is, therefore, i basically spoke to orthodoxy just about some such ordinary things with them. they are with me walked. that is, even someone complained, there, kirsya with some of their own, as they say, everyday family joys and sorrows, there on february 24, 24, they lived for 22 years. in the ukrainian part yes, in the city of chanterelles, do you think it could have been avoided. specially

military operations was there any other option or scenario in your opinion? i think that it is not already after the fourteenth year that the expression of the rubicon has been passed. i think not. he was in the fourteenth year or later not in the fourteenth year. when it started all these events are after maidan, that is, already additives. i wish i never told this story. so that's just a case in public, that's all, they say this is a true case. god is a witness. it was the eighteenth year. i came. i very rarely went to kiev. after the fourteenth year. although i graduated from my theological schools there as well. i had wonderful friends there and girlfriends, kiev is kiev well, i rarely went. after all these events, add- we didn’t particularly like it there . well, you can immediately see how donbass is visible it was right away, that is, like a speech, a taxi driver was driving with me, and he was talking to me. well, he seems to understand somehow he is speaking from the donbass. i say, yes, from the donbass from the city of lisichansk.

yes, there is nothing on the bow. yes, i fought, so i retired together with 2 back from the army. i don’t agree there, he had some with the military leadership, and he began to tell me that he was on the maidan, he was a centurion on the maidan, here is february and he tells me, that’s when it all ended, yanukovych ran away, like, all of us february 27, began to form brigades to you there to go to the donbass, that is, on february 27th. that is, even when, when the donbass was still sleeping peacefully, when no one at all, no one had zombified any military operations. and in general, lugansk will capture the hut on march 9, and they will capture it on march 10. e yes was the administration in the city of donetsk a. on february 27, they were preparing brigades to go to donbass for us, that is, already. it was planned in advance. i have never told this story. the man himself was not driving. he was a taxi driver himself. here

he told how they had already formed brigades, that is, this is an ordinary person. this is not someone there, but who is directly a participant. all these events, therefore, i think that it was impossible to avoid this. the question is different, that it could have ended in the fourteenth year? yes? it would be possible to do this residents of the lpr, dpr that is, these are the ones that are my residents? uh, we waited in 2014, and i waited in the fourteenth year, and this referendum, which was in the month of may, indeed, all the inhabitants of luhansk, donetsk region, really went to it, this percentage is 74% in the lugansk region. people are really orthodox, because i myself i went to this referendum back then with my parents, there was another one alive, then he was such a man of the soviet era. here he is, well , he never went to the elections in ukraine . that's when there was a referendum, he was already sick. we, that is, i even gave him a lift, he went and voted, that is, the people all voted and everyone was waiting. here is how in the crimea

the territory of the luhansk region is annexed to the russian federation. now i will speak as i am the indigenous inhabitants of the lansk region. that’s what didn’t follow, and then all these hostilities had already begun, in in principle, people again waited, but this, as it were, did not follow. here, when a position is criticized, a special military operation is often given figures. well, approximately such that from 2014 to february 22, annually among the civilian population in the donbass, the number of deaths did not exceed a hundred people a year. here are the official data of the office of the high commissioner for human rights, and on december 31 , the twenty-first year , 14,000 400 people became victims of the conflicts in ukraine, of which 3,400. this is a civilian. which of these numbers can be more trusted? well , i can say. here again, i was engaged, just in march, fighting off the civilian

population in the city of severodonetsk, is that what? they even posted videos of the hierarchy, there, at 18. or in the city of sedonets, 258 civilians were killed, we buried them. the fact is that the cemetery was mined in one city. the severodonetsk cemetery, it was already mined by the ukrainian army, we could not store it and we buried it. we have there, uh, such a district, forest cottage in the forest. we have the church of christ the exaltation. well, it’s like a nature reserve, and they started bringing civilians there to bury it. until today , this cemetery stands, that is, on april 18, there were somewhere 258 people who died in the city of severodonetsk, in principle, with a population of 120,000, and the city already there was a very compact population of these figures can be trusted. well, i guess i'd say the truth is somewhere in between. as i answer with words , again, collisists, somewhere, however, in the middle, because there were always shelling and donetsk, especially gorlovka and even lisichansk

, our city was pogranichny, already further began, as the line of contact all the time we heard these hail artillery shots , that is, time. i don't know which side is who. well, of course, the ukrainian side fired. naturally. even as they themselves said. they received combat for this, the army did everything, that is, therefore, i know there too, i just went, and then i saw all the settlements, and they are small, but they are all destroyed. they have all been destroyed in 18 years. no one lived there and all these villages are all these settlements were all completely destroyed, so i think that the truth is somewhere in the middle, if andriy didn't go astray. and i'm asking you as a person who was born and raised in the luhansk region. what would be the future of the luhansk region, at this point , deplorable deplorable, because for these 8 years all the factories are the pride of the donbass of the luhansk regions. they were already closed. they were already

carved out, completely destroyed, even that famous donzo dali sichanskaya, which was built there already under the tsar father, there were already solid ruins. uh, gas prices were catastrophic people were already leaving. well, right now in the lugansk region, more than half of the people have already left for permanent residence in the russian federation. yes, the territory of the russian federation , that is, the trees have almost begun to die out and the cities are also already empty. that is, they started. that is, even here i have a mountain for seachans. it would seem that. here is the area where i have a temple of 27,000 people. i just walked by in the evening. it used to be a walk in the tenth year, the windows are on fire. here, how would we go now through the sleeping area of ​​​​moscow answered the windows say, and there almost all the windows were not lit, because i see that the windows are visible, that people do not live. people have already left, that is, people were leaving en masse, and therefore, i think that just such oblivion of the luhansk region was expected. that's it. here i am in

particular the ukrainian side. that is, people have already passed this winter, and everyone has already begun to look, because many people have already told me that spring will come easter of christ will come, we will hit the past 22 years and we will all be looking for a place for ourselves, where to move or will stay. basically. it was russia, those who participated in the minsk talks. they say that putin, e., minsk considered the agreement a serious loss. and precisely because of the fact that, under these agreements, the luhansk region remained with ukraine a-a, how did they treat the minsk agreements in your land, in general, did they believe in them, in their future and that they could be implemented no, to be honest, frankly not. nobody believed in them. and somehow even they were somehow negatively treated by everyone. here's something that's simple people to him very somehow. well, i said in myself all the e people of the luhansk region. i wanted exactly the crimean scenario for myself all luhansk

donetsk region. everyone really wanted the crimean scenario, and therefore they didn’t like this whole agreement, to put it mildly. well, what is, that is, as the will of god, as the lord controls, so it is. why has it not yet been possible for the kiev regime to take control of kiev? well, first of all. the people do not give, because i have already said many times that the people love our church feels where the grace is the truth, because it's all already the church is self-connection. there, right now, they are throwing a slogan, what are they saying, here your church was formed in the forty-third year by stalin well, our church it was and is and will be like stalin simply legalized it after the persecution of the thirties, and it is purely a church formed by the ukrainian government. uh

, she is educated, that is, she is the same as in the church. there is, apostolic affiliation is such an understanding of the people. okay, he loves the kiev-pechersk lavra very much. i have already repeated that lavra is the second athos as it is considered and dedicated, as jerusalem and the monk sergio sarov always spoke about it. and not only he and many other lavra was opened in 89. under gorbachev, under shcherbitsky, then the lower lavra was, as it were, completely given over to the property then of our russian orthodox church. then there was not even a division into the ukrainian orthodox church, then it was still the patriarchal exarchate in ukraine and it was, as it were , property, but the upper lavra, where all the events are now taking place. she has already been transferred years of independence of ukraine, she found . every year, our church, that is, the ukrainian orthodox church, is rented. the kyiv metropolis extended this lease. she. here they took it. they extended it, in principle, if we say it then

, they didn’t give it to us until the end. vladyka pavel, he is, of course, a very great friend. eh, he is very sick with laurel. this is his breath. this is his life. i understand, as the abbot of the temple himself, who built the temples himself. they restored, then they found people restored the great assumption church we know that it was destroyed in the form of the great patriotic war. uh, well done or was there a service? it would seem that. well, this temple restored the church attracted people, uh finance people who well, like everyone to donate or the temple, that is, they knew where they were investing for what? here is such a paradox. and it was necessary to take permission to serve there, that is, at any time, the soviet government. she could not let the assumption church into this great church and services were also going on, as since the eighty-ninth year they were allowed in the refectory church, where there used to be a museum of atheism soviet time later, when they removed it near atheism. there is a service in the refectory church, but only in these two churches and services were allowed; the rest of the upper lavra was never transferred to our church for all these waters.

that is, there is a museum and libraries, that is, the upper lavra until today. in principle, it was not transferred in such a way, and therefore, if this is a legal problem, they have already resolved it, as they simply did not extend it. they deprived, as they say, not even deprived, but somehow limited in civil rights. here also an interesting wording, legal, which does not exist fees. kupala that is, he can not sign, as he is limited to the rights of this year's lease, which began from this it follows that they transferred the schismatic church. and we will say so on the lower laurel, they cannot yet, because so far it is legal property. uh, the churches can't take her away yet. uh, there were serious christmas services in terms of the number of people in the parishes. how many people come to the schismatics? how many come for services to priests, churches are almost always half empty, they are almost

half empty, there 10-15 people come to them lavra is always full, there are five liturgies a day 5 l. is it possible to say in this regard that the ukrainians do not equate the support of their own and e, adherence to the canonical church no, of course, they have become. no, of course they're building a church. this is a church. this is something that is dear to the soul and heart of every person. that is, and here, and his own or some other political visions, this church. in the church in front of the bomber everyone is equal to the church plane. does zelensky have any chances for his team to keep up? well , by force there is always a possibility. they talk like some people that's it western ukraine we'll break through the knee. well, in general, how it will be, here we captured the churches of raskolnikov, they started services there, but there is no canonical church. well, there's

nowhere to go. well, you will suffer, sit at home, turn around, how do you do it? well, come anyway. well your need is there for prayer for correction. the dance of the spiritual, that is, and anyway, you will come, that is. well, whether you like it or not, wait. well, wait six months, let's say. well, wait, well, wait another 2 years , anyway, you have no choice, only one will be, that is, there is only a schismatic church of another church, you will no longer have to go there. and you understand these for a believer. after all, it's not easy. uh, some institution of organization. this is the church of christ. there, after all, the sacrament is invalid and that's it, they really are like that? can you say spiritual murder? yes on at the moment, what is happening now in the church in ukraine is a spiritual murder, because the sacrament is all invalid , the grace of the priesthood is not on them, and that is, it doesn’t matter. well, this is what is called such a word self-consecration, that is, he illuminated himself. called upon himself holiness.

that is here. we can say that there is such an underlying reason, not just a political one, but one can say, a spiritual background. here there is, as it were, how to say such a spiritual incline to the spiritual murder and betrayal of people. well do you think zelensky is aware of this, he will go further in this. i don't know, well, the thing is , you see it's already coming. it's been recently taken over. yesterday, bilayka temple. this is an ancient city of cities, of course, this is already the city of kiev. but this is an ancient city, the city of the archangel mikhailovsky church, where he even performed a good service there several times, where the late archbishop nikolai served. they have already captured the attack on the tithe monastery. everyone knows the most ancient monastery, tiva, where he was buried grand duke vladimir and equal-to-the-apostles book. olga is on her way now. this is already a capture and almost everyone already understands that this will also be captured. i think this is the way they will go further and further. that is, as they say, the first success. already drunk on the upper lavra, they went there and

deserved christmas. it would seem that what they themselves read is impossible, but why don't we move on, further, as you remember, the doctrine. uh, whose power of addition and faith i think, according to this doctrine, they move very much like to know firsthand, i would, of course, i wanted to interview the patient directly with one of the priests. i understand that as long as they are on the territory of ukraine, you say they will not be, they are actually held hostage. here you are in moscow, we can talk with you. they are now hostages, not only priests, but also ordinary residents of ukraine, the city of kiev, they are now hostages of the kiev regime, you know, when i was sitting in a cell, we called him uncle yura he held a referendum to bang in the fourteenth year. well he's from the beating he got in the hut died in the cell. here the orthodox died. that is, somehow i also saw my trade in this. there, arriving next to him. he asked me a question. what was the first country captured by the nazis in germany well, what could be the first

austria yes germany, he said his country germany was not captured. from what, in principle, i liberated the soviet union, then subsequently germany from nazi power, that is, the nazis first captured, therefore, in ukraine this is also a question. that is, the regime has now captured its country and is holding everything hostage population. let's talk about motivation. this is the main thing, and the main argument of the opponents of the fso is that, well, in ukraine, the soldiers are protecting their land, but the russian soldiers do not understand. why did they come to the territory of ukraine and you, uh, were in the border area. you clearly. you see, this is already the difference in the mood of the pro-russian-minded population about the ukrainian-minded in your opinion, is there enough motivation? with our soldiers, you

know, after my release, i talked for several days with our army with our soldiers. that is, they all have a lot of motivation. i can't say anything. well, you came, as they say, alone alone, came to liberate. uh, as they say, our people, the russian people, from uh nationalism, others are motivated by someone that it is we who have come to free us from european from european expansion. uh, the other return of the territory to the historical he is on the russian state. that is, i did not see how to say, i talked with different soldiers. that is, they are very deeply motivated. i can't do anything others. i didn't see the motivation. no, no, even, on the contrary, somehow confident. here we are while we were driving here is the route of exchange with you. i rode. eh, here, then a few more days i was. here they got me there for now. so i had to come here to moscow there and that's it. i mean, they took me there. you communicated with them closely, just communicated.

so they asked, they were like, that’s from the exchange, that is, they were very motivated. the soldiers , and then these people were from chelyabinsk and legend from other russian cities. you said deep from russia, that is, they motivated by different ages. there was a man there. he was one 48 years old, the other 36 years old. that is, they were motivated. there, other soldiers were already taking me, when they were also taking me home, they were 28-30 years old. that is, they were very motivated and very correctly motivated. that is to me even from a religious point of view. now an initiative is being discussed to raise the draft age, from 18 to 21. and do you think this is a rational proposal. so, i, well , somehow, as they say, i am more brought up, how it says a little in the laws, who would refuse, how i was born and raised in a soviet family. here, as it were, before the revolutionary ones, in principle, i, as a historian myself. eh, after all, they

called for the royal service just before 21:00 from the age of 22, my great-grandfather went to the royal service, and we would know him, there was a condition for the royal service. that's specifically from my family. i know the history of my entire family. when you went into the service, here are 20 22 years old. are you in the service are you 22 years old? are you supposed to be married in service? you should already had children, that is, then you have to leave. that is, it’s not that you understand there that the topic is to kill there and everything was stopped. the root of your family, that is, you already went to the service as a family man and, naturally, the state helped the family. so that was the content. it was not just that this pre-revolutionary time was left to chance. that is, and already in principle, yes, i think yes, 20. now, if we would return to this law, that's the royal one. i think that he was very correct, he was very strong, everyone was 18 years old and i remember 18 years old. and for 22 years now. this is a completely different age, so here is my personal opinion. this is

my personal opinion. i now remembered more, those standards, here before the revolutionary ones. i hand over this question to everyone. and it is especially interesting for you to ask me how you define behavior for yourself . what must happen for you to say, we defeated you. well, when well , in principle, lugansk has already returned to the bosom, the historical of its russian state, in principle, for me personally, when our territories that belonged to the russian empire to the russian state to trust in the bosom of their state. now, when the word history and our true will be taught to our children, when all our monuments will be reborn there again and the tsarist and soviet monuments are all our history. that is, and as they say, there will be a very strong patriotic upbringing, it is our russian

great our russian history of our orthodox church that will return. so i think, yes, they died on the territory. ukraine of new territories and ukrainian such imperial -minded priests. how are you, well i guess there is. i think there is a fear to talk about it. yes, i don’t want to talk about it out loud, but i think there is, as they say, there is. that is, as they say. i know the future is big. as they say, in the future we will have even more and we have a great potential, and that is, i, as they say, and in contrast, how would it be who is there? what he didn't say. i believe, as in poetry. i believe in russia, i believe people, as i believe our orthodoxy says. and i think that all this will soon dissipate more and more quietly, the patriarch correctly said at christmas sermons. you before the interview. uh, they told me that hmm, to your surprise, none of the elders and seers predicted the events. which are now taking place this special military operation

armed conflict between russia and ukraine do you think why well, i can’t say why i read a lot, but the fact is that i believe in the ending, as reverend seraphim of starovsky said, russia will come through great suffering to great glory. and that again she is in the unit a large russian state, and serkhiorovsky wrote, when was the whole russian empire in the composition in which we know it historically and that it will be a blessed state until the second coming of christ from whom or what, in your opinion, does the end of its and its terms depend? here is the lord god, everything is in the hands of god, how many plans of the human heart, but everything that will be from the will of the lord will be fulfilled, so we will cut the set in half, and we will pray to the lord, he reigns in

the kingdom of man, that is, not in the hands of political power or military leadership . as a priest, i will say, everything is in the hands of god. as the lord rules, so shall it be. i'll say it again, this is scripture. the lord god reigns over the kingdom of men and gives power. there he wants so writes the book of daniel the prophet. and this is the truth, and as we know the apostle paul confirm these words. he says there is no power. and there is no god. i believe that our government is saying that our scales will restore our destroyed cities, that is, all enterprises that were destroyed by ukraine and during the military actions. and that is, the people of the very hardworking donbass are very believing people. of course, they will return their homes, and again everything will be in all piety. many thanks to andrew for this interview. thank you. for what all these details were told. thank you. thank you. i can’t help but ask the rest of

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