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we welcome everyone who joined us on channel russia 24 fifth studio and today. right now, first of all, let's try to understand what the situation is now at the front, where our guys are fighting and

where hmm suffer, settlements. here in the donetsk people's republic, in particular , they have been able to for several days already, we are talking about quite serious shelling, which donetsk is also subjected to, and this is how the situation develops for us. now they are there in several directions, because before that we were just talking about the fact that several key settlements were taken, as emphasized, including in the ministry of defense hmm alexander khodakovsky, founder of the vostok brigade, alexander sergeevich is in touch with us you. hello. tell me please, how is the situation at the front really now. hmm. here's the last time. has anything fundamentally changed? well, some fundamental changes. i am not watching now after we have completed the task of taking solidarity. well, right now we don't have very high

activity, in the coal sector. we have such local activity. we move with insignificant forces, and basically it 's like a biter, let's say. this is how we called some separate positions there, but such global offensives, all over now, too, is engaged in, well, probing for some weak points, trying to understand, e, somewhere, well, where it is torn. yes, and accordingly, preparations are also being made for a possible somewhere, i don’t know, there is an offensive or there for defense. as here zaporozhye direction. here we also read that there, uh, now fortification, they are preparing, that is, everyone now it turns out they are busy with the same thing. yes, i agree, but on the zaporozhye direction, and we, for our part maximize their defensive capabilities. here you can, if you are driving along the m4 highway, you can see these long lengths that are carrying engineering products that

will be used in the organization, used in the organization of defense. these are all kinds of pyramids there, which are being restored by concrete digging. uh, there is the required number of anti-tank ditches. e trenches and other things. that is, it seems that both sides are preparing for defense in this direction. not how many of their offensive. although we regard it this direction is promising from the point of view of the offensive. well, apparently, well, both sides decided to play it safe equipment, indeed the offensive does not interfere with one another does not contradict, so we are preparing for defense. and there it may be possible to attack how effective they are. i will say that here i am now, the promise was carried out immediately, so to speak, indirect effects are often, sometimes more significant than any direct consequences . received, perhaps, more than direct ones, because if someone expected that the situation at the front would somehow change strategically even after the capture, there was solidarity or after the capture of artemovsky. it’s just that we will enter the operational

space and will continue to move without much resistance from the enemy, then i definitely didn’t prepare for this. on the contrary, i repeated systematically that, well, if we take artyomovsk, then it will be slavic , then it will be kramatorsk, and taking into account the resistance that the enemy has the fact that these cities lend themselves much more easily, but indirect effects in the form of the fact that well, this is perhaps even more direct broadcast when we disable enemy units. on the one hand, we make his army less combat-ready, when, in principle, we even achieve some kind of local non-strategic victory at the same time we show the enemy that we are in a tough confrontation. we can impose our will and win and thus we, as it were, their propaganda. a significant ideological line, so to speak, we are adjusting our benefit, that is, such effects, they are not overestimated. we now, of course, understand that the powers are there. uh, successes in solidarity and continuing to develop the same successes in

the bakhmut direction in artyomovskaya brackets, we show the enemy our real capabilities and how we partially compensate for the territorial losses that we had months earlier, i will say this in conditions when the front is in a long state of say. so it has long been in a static position in dire need of victories. this is even local victories, then these victories in general, have a beneficial effect on morale on the psychological state of people, that is, all these indirect effects. of course, they defended alexander sergeevich. allow yourself to quote your own. uh, in a recent interview. you said that the enemy must be overloaded so that hmm he does not have time to fight back. and here i am another telegram channel. ah, the fisherman looked. they prepared a whole video there about the fact that in what way, rather, the enemy bypasses and, on the contrary, overloads us with russian air defense, and in particular with the same

drones, about which you said that our armies really lack them. well, naturally, we have identified some systemic problems. i'll tell you, so in theory it's impossible to prepare for a real war. of course you can sit e prepare for the last war. yes, yes, you can sit on the general staff. strain all the available intellectual possibilities to calculate the moves, but it will all be speculative, it will be hypothetical, when we clashed with the enemy in a real war. we looked at what worth ideas, we looked at how feasible they are , we are not realizable. to what extent the ideas have already been implemented in practice demonstrate themselves. how effective or ineffective. now we understand that we need to work in several directions at once. if we have some kind of individual potential, and, let's say, it is tied to life, to the environment, to some applied things. we must now mobilize it to a lesser extent. uh, how,

for example, we mobilize the spirit of our soldiers uh on the line of contact, because now when we set ourselves the task of replaying. here, it’s not only important for no one to fully load the capacities and capabilities of some rostec for the kalashnikov concern , but it’s important to create this need for energy, when we are here, we understand the effectiveness and efficiency of those tools that are manufactured deep in the rear and can make significant adjustments make corrections. well, let's say so, taking into account the experience of using certain means and the denser this connection between those. who invents hmm who manufactures and those who use it, the faster manufacturers respond to any proposals to any comments, the more effective. we are working now. unfortunately, we are witnessing complete ruptures here. this really depresses me, because products come to us that are clearly not made for the purposes and the front. and for

the purposes of self-realization of those who, in fact, invented, designed, did, and i will say that now is our task. to bring these two instances as close as possible to the front and our military industry in the rear in order to the industry was more plastic and dynamic. here, then, of course, we can reload. we must skillfully maneuver quality with quantitative indicators so that where we hit the ceiling of quality, there we can, for example, win at the expense of quantity. but the most important thing behind all this should be the tactics of using all these means, so now it’s just that it all works at the same time and this result is given by the war, when we understand that workers, what is effective in terms of application, and something has become obsolete, or was created solely solely on the basis of some kind of speculative conclusions and is of little use at the front. and now just the modernization has been announced. ah, the secretary of defense.

it should consist in this, that not just someone invented something, he showed it on some form and decided. he said at some, i don’t know at anyone an army exhibition, there is 20-22 or something else, but he really proved the applicability, proved the effectiveness of this in battle or when used during hostilities, and all. it went into production instantly without any bureaucratic or other things. e hope, but immediately went into production and immediately got to the front for a short time, as a product that is still relevant for use. they are already morally obsolete, yet. she was made there, went through all possible instances. well, roughly these are the global tasks now, so that technologies meet the real situation at the front and real combat missions. and alexander sergeevich i have another question for you about. uh, the technology of the enemy, not even their technology, but the technology that comes from their big friends in nato. i mean

, about the same german tanks that are now thinking there. uh, well, probably, in the end , maybe even with here to supply them. uh, here's something that will drastically change it. eh, indeed, in this weaponry. eh, just some kind of real threat that somehow directly radically changes the situation. no matter how high-tech it may be, and no matter what requirements it meets, it is not capable of those operators who work with this tool can influence something, if they are qualified, if they can get the most out of this tool, then, of course, this is a serious factor of influence and it is impossible to underestimate the supply of modern means of defeat to our enemy, of course . but if the enemy gets these tools in his hands and comes up with the template methods themselves. well, we got some kind of gun, some caterpillars. here they go, and this gun is fired. well then, in that case, we

we won’t see anything cardinally responsible, if from that huge number of soviet tanks of soviet production, which were supplied by the former countries, warsaw. agreements without such pomp as the west supplies its products, but which came in huge numbers and which have already fought with us. i do not overestimate modern means. i understand that the means of destruction of these modern means. excuse the tautology perfectly enough for today. and i understand that to make, for example, a large number of armata tanks, which are advanced there on today's overpriced ones can spend the state budget there, but they will burn from tours in the same way as some modernized t-72 there, so it probably makes no sense to improve now. these are the means of destruction and throw out a huge amount of money into them, if we don’t take care, those who will manage them and how they will be protected are banal means of destruction, which are much cheaper by an order of magnitude cheaper. therefore, what, for example, will come to ukraine, it will be. i think, incinerate in the same way as what was up to

this point in their hands is a question of skill. yes alexander sergeevich thank you very much for finding the time and being with us live. e, alexander khodakovsky, founder and commander of the brigade. the east was in direct contact with us. we'll be back in a couple of minutes. pentalgin is the number one remedy for pain, spasm and inflammation with headaches and other types of pain during. and if you like bonuses and fast delivery. download the scooter app. log in spirally and pay up to 99% of the order with a bonus from ber thank you, how heart so. there was no russian cold 150 g of not

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engine protection from the first second in start-stop mode and a sharp increase in engine speed oil rolf quality uncompromising. this is the fifth studio. we continue our conversation about what is happening in the places of the special military operation. how does it happen? by what means, by what means, and by whom? eh? naturally, we are now in the studio? well, just a legendary person, you all have probably already seen him many times. this is the speech of the call sign of the deck. this is a serbian volunteer in the armed forces of the dpr. yes, as i understand it, now, after all, because of the concussion injuries received, uh. you hmm already retired from military affairs, it turns out. well, double dasha well, uh physical in battles. well, it doesn’t work, i just

can’t work for the war. eh, dan, i understand correctly that, uh, well, you are also in your homeland. a very popular person, eh, but if you come there, you are somehow threatened. uh, there, almost in my head, persecution, how do you feel about this? yes, well, i don’t know russia and serbia are two fraternal countries that, well, it’s always there from ancient times in that, there, including the first world war, if you remember it, they helped each other there as volunteers when it was war in the balkans in the nineties, many russian volunteers fought such an attitude from the outside, including the same learners. well, you know, like me at first since 2013, when this law was passed, they were accused of being home volunteers, but that was not true,

because, well, we came one two three people. well, now i'm really doing this and i don't care what they say there, because the russian people always take the server when it's hard for us to take it and the serbian man who wants his daughter to come and help now from the bottom of his heart, well, by and large, if there was a great solemn warrior of the forty-first forty-fifth year, now there is not enough of this part of the war, which is much more serious than this war, which are now taking place on the territory of the house in conscience and the future of serbia's life. i only don't have serbia whole europe , many in europe don't understand this. and if a serbian man wants to come and help her , that's about three months ago, vladimir vladimirovich putin allowed foreigners to come. this is what i was asked to do. and here i am doing my heart and all these not threats that sometimes the borders of humanity come, because as i started to deal with the serfs now,

who come, they sent the police to the house where you live, weapons of explosives there. well, this is your house, right? where is my home? i lived there, as if i left serbia in 2013, everything was planned for my wife and son. i don't have anything in serbia, but anyway they, well, try to put pressure on me and sometimes they come. here for me it was a red line, and it goes on the air. there on the dream channel and we say, now you will come even more serb, then they are in serbia mainly, the snakes are the blue bbc and the ukrainian side there is very little truth there, and when our volunteers started to come, and they come. i'm probably waiting for the port, then the training ground and leaving for the battalion, then the commander. well, here you can actually just see how much reality is, uh, and uh, some kind of political repseudo-reality. eh, they are related to each other. yes

how many subscribers? here let's leave 100.000. and so, for example, when i publish on acute there for 2-3 days, 230,000 views, and this is their very fast one of my channels, the second third basis we do the truth must be brought, because they are there, for example, the girl from donetsk esmiya brings both the bombing of russia and ukrainian territory to ukrainian cities. look at the situation here. uh, such a thing, when such an abyss surrenders between public opinion, which i 'm sure is completely different in the service between what is presented by the media, uh, it's uh, it says a lot, really. er, you can see it. by the way, according to the situation that developed there, including, uh, tastes. yes, it happens there from time to time,

such flashes hmm that many experts on our air. yes, and in fact, obviously , they can develop into a much more deplorable situation. everything is under control there. everything is controlled, of course, in the same way, that is, between the two than between the president, kosovo america controls all this clearly . house is, of course, incomprehensible. and i, uh, in connection with this already okay, we understand everything. that's about what kind of side the serbian media is taking, what kind of e what people really are think the situation is obvious. here are some of your personal ones. here are the impressions that you, mm, what did you encounter in the donbass, what would uh? eh, well, that's really faced in the situation in which you were. uh has been dried out questions of war, of course, on the issue of war on the issue. i’m here so casually, well,

i can’t say it since feb-14, because there was a war there in the crimea. well, everything went well for him, and then on the dombas, when they collided there, well, some other ukrainians fought, who, uh, were not so tough, now, over these 8 years, they have become very serious about their russian. that's what they looked at exactly, there and the friends who were now, for example, in kiev on raisins there in the popasnaya, especially such cruelty and civil and such a dispute has never been surprising. this is also due to the fact that in ukraine they adopted laws that banned the use of the russian language there, which banned russian literature. now they wear monuments to pushkin uh, i'm not talking about some politicians of the past there military leaders. uh, the heads of the russian

empire. yes, that's how the monument to catherine ii was demolished in odessa. i mean the writers who were engaged in the formation of not only the russian, but also the ukrainian language in particular. and here we are watching a video, and there they speak russian. well, there are also some people there, uh, like in serbia. well, not so many, but more terrible videos that were how they dealt with these prisoners. yes? well, they say, yes, but they how how to speak ukrainian began to know how many years ago to speak most of these i don't know. they just changed. that's when the fall was not interesting to talk to and with these tribes can not especially. everyone thinks there . this is what they are told that russians are oppressing them, that there have never been russian writers. they simply destroyed ukrainian history. yes. what kind of history did serbia

build. it seems to me that there is an obvious parallel here. yes, there are definitely such people. and now you say, it's amazing. it's amazing for people who didn't watch what happens in his glory for us is not surprising, but because that it's all one school that's all. we are talking about the usa well, yes, america is a fist, and now yugoslavia is the music of razoul, and now they are trying not to ruin it, destroy music, this is england and they have the same principle of work, the same way i take state glory, as if in a civil war. here is yugoslavia. it was ruined for this need was a warrior. it's ninety-three here. now this war is going on, as in the ninety-ninth year, only the british must have raised a rebellion inside russia and to this day. i can understand a russian person, which is more you press him, he presses him harder and stronger and will fight more. they ca

n't figure it out and will lose again. this is not their fight. come on, ukraine is just for the destruction of russia, not an infection, but destruction. and all this music works, yes, america is a shark. and where is the mozang of everything that happens worse in this world there is no russia yes, it’s not in vain that they say that if you understand, then what you don’t understand, try to study history a little. yes, those conflicts that were before. most likely. you will find a lot of answers there. why to the question why about what is happening now, but they think that everyone thinks how they do not dine in this. eh, yes, he doesn’t want to teach history, but i think that’s such an englishman, if but i fought with him there was a clash and in bosnia and bill there were a lot of englishmen then the first murder in england and in bosnia in general the british did it there to quarrel the peoples among themselves uh with them there, then on kosu there was a clash on the dombasu,

how they are no uh, the soul is that he is cowardly and uh, they think that everyone is like that. if you started to destroy the enemy a little, this enemy must run away. and how does he run away? here is the afghani. well, how would he never win the war, but the russian works differently, because they lose. what other mercenaries have you encountered, and on the territory of donbass, you know, you have come across different ones. i mean, before the start of the special military operation before the start, and there were a lot of things there, like before the start of the search. the battalions were there, uh, snipers came from finland from america from germany well, on the question. uh, battalion you mean, it's regular units regularly immediately, when he entered the territory, he did not reg.