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today, on the day of the 80th anniversary of the breaking of the blockade of leningrad , the president arrived on a working visit to st. petersburg. the head of state took part in commemorative events and met with veterans of the besieged leningrad and members of the public. good afternoon first of all. i want to contact a veteran. i would like to congratulate you on this significant event on the occasion of the 80th anniversary of the breaking of the blockade of leningrad, this
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is a great event for all of us, not only for the people of leningrad, not only for the city. uh, and especially not only for defenders heroic and residents of besieged leningrad a for the whole country. this event is an event of great historical proportions. uh, here we are just now talking with the leadership of the city about what and how happened in these most difficult months of the defense of leningrad and what heroism its defenders were distinguished by, and what the inhabitants of besieged leningrad did to defeat the road. these are all things that will forever be remembered. and the people of our country and we, in turn, must pass on to future generations. eh, this information of this page. e our history so that it
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always remained forever in people's memory. once again, i sincerely congratulate you on this event. and here are representatives, just of different generations and veterans already whitened with gray hairs, having young people young enough in any case. and it is very good that we have such a line-up today. i don't want to make long introductory speeches , not the case, but i would like to listen to you about what and how the city authorities as a whole are doing for the annunciation. understand everyone who took participation in the defense of the fatherland. e years of the great patriotic war. well, and so that we have the opportunity to correct something or add something. uh to what we do, so the direction of congratulations on the eightieth anniversary of the breakthrough was please.
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thank you, please click the button. i am the chairman of the board of the st. petersburg public organization of residents of besieged leningrad tikhomirova elena sergeevna, i took part now in connection. here, in our courts, the so-called genocide of our people, and most importantly, genocide leningrad or leningraders therefore, i want to tell you that we were together with our museum, we performed there. we were attracted to this as an interested party, therefore we were at all the courts and, you know , it was hard, of course, to go through all the courts that were there, because all the new data that our people departed there
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acted as witnesses at this court . and you know, i can just say that really. horror some was again embraced. this horror, when you heard that there were experts, a lot was also filed materials from not only people, but also about what was done to the city here. what defeats, after all, the fact is that they even revealed themselves into such things that are now hidden during the reconstruction of some of our uh monuments. so i think that everyone should, but the main thing is that the court established. now we have a clear court stopped about one million ninety-three thousand dead leningraders, but in my concluding remarks i actually said that this is not the final figure,
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because they didn’t take into account sleep, which there were when people were evacuated, and the losses were great, because at every station where our leningraders were evacuated, people were removed from the trains. therefore, for the time being, we have settled on the figure of one million 93.000. and at the same time, the most important thing is that the court found that not only the germans stood against leningrad. but almost 11 states of europe and it was very little for me. it's a shame. i made my closing remarks in court. i said it was very insulting that no documents were found, that the estonians were here, but we knew that they were here were. well, there were no documents. many of them did not investigate very well. the prosecutor's office investigated various documents. documents were
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submitted and presented at our request. even this book. uh, starvation in childhood, as a cause of illness in old age. this is what our doctors did. this is also a delayed effect. uh, you understand our blockade, this is a very difficult hmm, of course, it was an event to speak, as we are used to, but but this must be endured. and now i am very glad that there are still further trials, what is going to the stavropol court. after all, there too after all, there were ours in stavropol, that there were also our leningraders, evacuated. they were from students of the medical institute and students of the theater institute, ivans and the germans were there. when they came up, a lot of guys from the students of the medical institute died. but the theatrical managed to get out in some way before that, but i have a friend who also got into this
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situation, and she told how they left. unfortunately. now she is gone. he is no longer alive, so you understand, you need to know this, and tell as much as possible. this is necessary in order to everyone watched it, and for everyone to see and know the results, they need, of course. how much can we give to the school? this delayed effect also makes itself felt, but we have different delayed effects. films about the blockade should be shown in schools, when there is, and as much as possible, as much as possible. and children should be taught. after all, we lost to some extent part of the generations, we lost the guys. i don't know agree. you with this i believe that you have lost. now, however, the guys are very interested
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, they became very interested in this, and before that it was very hard, because not all schools would have even we could be. but why am i talking about this because information works very strongly, and information via the internet through these all of them do not tell the whole truth, the most terrible insults are half-truths half-truths, but for the guys. we must be able to distinguish the truth from the half-right. after all, we once studied, we studied according to the first sources. well, besides the fact that we knew all our teachers who also went with us, therefore, i think that we need to do another interesting one, one can also say delayed parts. there is an effect that, when the evacuation was still in itself in the republic of
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our union, and this helped, after all , to develop there, because not only industrial enterprises, but also people were leaving there and exported. and they gave a lot. for the past 6 years we have been holding our organizations annually, and we are holding, grateful leningrad, and now every year, in some republic of some region, we invite representatives, and here we spend these january days. we, uh, very strongly do not advertise them. well, because there was a pandemic we have been here for 2 years, but in any case we are doing this this year, we are planning to invite from novosibirsk from uzbekistan and even the chechen republic, we are taking samara. that's who will come to agree hmm be, as we go they tell what they have achieved. and we say
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words of gratitude to those who are alive and who lived in this and i think that this means a lot, but i ask you. in general, vladimir vladimirovich what is needed for the work to preserve memory to continue on a large scale and for the truth of history to be larger and stronger spread? i think that it is necessary to attract as many people as possible, including ours. eh, the teaching staff, maybe they will even have to be taught something, because they, too, after all, many have passed now, because 30 years, since they left the past after the end of the school, it is necessary that they think, think, be able to analyze, understand and then it wasn’t we didn't have computers, we didn't have anything. and we
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knew we learned from the first sources, learned from people and were, of course, many participants in the war are alive. well, it gets itself, you know participants in the war can already be counted. yes, and us already. we have an average age of 86 in the clouds. yes, and here a little handful of prisoners of the fascist koncerei remained, but we work at school, we go to institutes to schools. and we help with descendants, we work, but we also do not forget our guys as well as during the great patriotic war. so i ask you to bring it in some ways so that we don’t leave, who will preserve this memory after us. we need them to keep. i thank you very much for helping us with the museum in due time. here for attention to
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us and of course, i believe that you do not forget our city. this is something that is very good and thank you very much for this, so as not to forget. that's what i wanted to tell you. thanks a lot. first of all, for my part, i want to thank you for going through such difficult trials in your time, for not giving up on supporting each other, thereby supporting both the city and the country, and for what you are doing today. now you have said extremely important things about the recognition of the genocide against the civilian population the emergency soviet union. of course, this question was considered. at one time in nuremberg, and on the whole, assessments were given. well, this is exactly in general, because during the nuremberg trials it was impossible to present everyone even look and present
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all the facts, er, testifying to this genocide and really forgets a lot at all. you know, maybe i'll say something unusual . nothing out of the ordinary though. here. no. it 's some sort of natural defense mechanism. we have a person. eh, it's very fast forgets the bad. everything is forgotten very quickly. the new generation already perceives that which was before the birth of man. like, like , like some kind of prehistoric events that seem to have nothing to do with him , but so that a person understands that this is not so. we certainly must do this. and so i say, on the one hand, it’s not bad that a person does not live under the yoke of difficult memories. it would be impossible. it would be it would be a terribly terrible thing of existence. so, well, just imagine. but historical memory must
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to be preserved precisely in order to prevent such tragedies that our people experienced during the great patriotic war. it would never happen again, and so that we have practical sense, so that we can respond in time to the threat that arises in relations with our country. this is a very important thing, so we will certainly work in all areas. first of all, of course, you need to pay. uh, attention to young people and, of course, through those uh tools and uh means that are most accessible to uh young people. uh, to make them better perceived it, but the most, of course. uh, the most effective is the remembrance of those who ask through the test, because you correctly said, well, in the life of life, there are no
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veterans anymore, eh, but uh, those who still have who have the strength, of course, we all must do everything must do for in order to use your knowledge, because this is no longer a book that you can rewrite something. to state something there in a way that is beneficial to someone. and this is the testimony. here is the first part of the second. eh, of course already to use uh, the experience of the pedagogical uh of our staff of teachers, uh of different levels on hmm now what you said, uh about the multinationality of the occupying uh, forces and uh of those who opposed us fought against us by our enemies. yes it is so it has always been so open enough. uh, his tolstoy and read war and peace, when he says that yes, it seems like the french army under, uh,
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the driver of napoleon, but it was the whole of europe because by this time, uh, napoleon bonaparte had actually put all of continental europe under control and uh tolstoy already describes it all there. it was e during the great patriotic war of 1812 and the patriotic war of 1812, the same thing happened during the great patriotic war forty-one and forty- five, yes, after hitler, in fact, also left all of continental europe under control and here, hmm, on the leningrad front, they participated in the blockade of leningrad and committed crimes. uh, representatives of very many european countries. we never e before e, in e due to a certain tolerance. and in order to not to spoil relations, not to spoil some background
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of our relations with many countries, this was not discussed, but it was not only in leningrad on the leningrad front. during the poster. it was everywhere enough to look at the blue division there near stalingrad yes, and here in leningrad on the leningrad front during the blockade, well, from all sides. eh, there were participants from all sides. eh, out of many anyway. uh, uh, uh, here. e, when you talk about the need to preserve historical memory. i already said all we fully support this at the state level, we will do it, we will do it persistently. eh, including in order that nothing like i have said this does not happen again. and meanwhile, uh, someone with uh, consciously passes all these facts to oblivion. we kind of heard, maybe quite recently i was taken to the organization. proposed for voting uh documents,
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condemning the hero of the implementation of nazism voted against what can be who u can be against, and in order to recognize the criminalization of the generalization of nazism? well well what is it? this, uh, means it's not easy. uh, some kind of amnesia, some kind of historical or political, this is all again transferred here our time for what, in order, based on the current political situation. uh, that means, uh, to keep such a common front of pressure on our country. uh, so in this sense, unfortunately, little is changing, which means that we must, uh, consistently defend the historical truth and do what you suggest, we will do so. thank you very much, please, if not permission was made by planed nadezhda
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vasilievna is 102 years old. she is a teacher of besieged leningrad. well , nothing, otherwise, considering your age and status, we will all stand up now, please. include cookies first of all. allow me to congratulate you all on this great and huge holiday of breaking through the blockade. we will leave memories of him whole because of the big big big native chest that will never heal. the first breakthrough of the blockade was
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such a holiday for us, especially because it coincided with almost the most difficult period of life leningrad december january february november 10,000 dead clouds to save the population of leningrad january 6 order open an orphanage. we are lucky that we have children. and for the dispenser they
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were still they were processed by sanitary, but out of these 200 people, only 37 children descended with their own feet from the second floor to the dining room, to take the food of the rest. fed in bed. can we forget? you have baby eyes. who looked to save us. some of them counted their lives by working the orphanage was opened the sixth of january. i worked until august 26 during
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this time we managed to save 625. i think it was not so much material support that saved. how much moral inspiration they sing. first time out of bed. we raised all the kids on february 22 , the day the garden was then called the soviet army, when the director asked to send artists to these recumbent children, writing a whole whole poem about each child gets carried away. who around the kitchen smell of food, and conclude the last
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conclusion is a boy who is always eager. i think i was looking for something addition to his diet, and how he plays cat and mouse as a caregiver, and this raised all the children who sat with us to their feet, even lying, wrapped in blankets. in the blanket sent to the chairs, even smiles appeared on their faces, and the director, taking advantage of this, arranged a self-service day the next day. it will be the children themselves and the director and cook of the library and accounting in general, everything should have been seen where the greens came from for these children. they were lying and this made me get to my feet,
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and when a person got to his feet, then consider that he is alive, by the way, and at our age, if we got on our feet, we began to boil life in our orphanage. that's what we managed to do and a few more such holidays to save the lives of children. we returned from the last evacuation. yes , dispatches from the station have returned to the orphanage, we are waiting for an order to open in our building in four days. the lessons of the school of ten letka for these four days were laid out for us. they had to remove the beds, get the mattresses, get the equipment for the classrooms, no one was behind the
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workers of the orphanage and went home and spent the night there, but on september 1 we opened the school on september 1, it rang according to the schedule. well. not zoos the first lesson in all classes, how to behave during an alarm how to have time for all students to go down in 3 minutes bomb shelter schools worked in military mode. we had to visit the bomb shelter several times almost every day, there were many different cases at the school, but our school could only exist until april 16,
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43, nazi bombers hunted for our building. we knew it, and the districts in the district knew it, and in the slides in the city the military registration and enlistment office knew what they wanted for our children, and on april 16, 9, the alarm began at 11:00 in the morning. and we heard the sounds of the bomber and the return shots of our anti-aircraft guns approaching our building to release the children during the alarm we have, but if there is a direct hit, all the children will die, we rarely take the responsibility of releasing five children.
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he instructs him to get across the road so that the patrol does not see them. i can accommodate the last child late in the evening. in 15 minutes, the end of the war anxiety, all the teachers quickly began to live and get ready to go home. i lived against the school. five people left to spend the night at school, they are far to go before i took them to my place. a few minutes later there was such a powerful explosion that i just ran and the result was a sting in my chair. to please our school. to ruin it
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left five teachers. need kids who gathered in the morning to the ruins and where to feed them? after all, they ate at school. while i'm a dining room, who will take the answer. whole night we fussed, traveled through leningrad, in the morning they mono-fed the children. we got a new building, where our students will have to study, but again it fell on our shoulders to free this building from 1,000 receivers , to equip at least plywood with glazing. windows and take the kids, we also
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completed this task. this is how leningrad lived during the blockade. what was the impression at the end of the war. you don't have to say it. but how much was the delight? now no one will ever forget that our students began to heal the wounds of the city, and during the
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war, not a single child or worker the thought did not appear that leningrad could be a stan. russia never came out to win in any of that wars. i didn’t study, and we went to school to teach me once, we didn’t even think about the fact that the nazis would enter leningrad at school, we calmly moved and worked on crutches. the result of the work of our blockade teachers is one issue of only the first year, 45-46 of the peaceful year.

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