this week, the european authorities continued to whip up anti-russian hysteria about the meeting in ramstein and other european so -called initiatives. today we spoke with vladimir, first deputy chairman of the federation council committee on defense and security, hello, thank you for finding time for us, uh, certainly extremely interesting .

nodding at the other. in particular, scholls says that he will supply leopard tanks if americans will supply abrams. well, and so on. here. uh, it seems to be like now, uh, there is a meeting of rammstein and they are determined. how many tanks or something else to send to ukraine, and so on, how would you comment on all this. why is there such a, seemingly, on the one hand, the desire of the european to supply these weapons, and on the other hand. it feels like they're kind of, uh, afraid of each other, no matter what happens. and you are right, all this is present in the current situation, e.g. around ukraine and that conflict, which continues there, but really one gets the impression that, but everyone is trying. uh, hide behind someone else. here, uh, the germans are trying to hide

behind the americans, if malta is not supplied with abrams, then we will not supply other countries with leopards. they say we will put our leopards. only if there is the consent of berlin, which, by the way, is formally required, since. uh, we are talking about the end user certificate, so to speak. these are the international trade requirements for weapons. true, the arms trade and speeches are not goes. and all. it's uh, guns and gets a dime leak. another thing. that a number of, uh, financial tranches, uh, go to ukraine on uh basis on uh loans, so, for example, here are the figures that the eu, uh, has announced in recent weeks. these are all loans with a maturity of up to 35 years so that, as

they say, but in ukraine, uh, especially, as they say, they don’t think that this is all uh, gifts for zelensky’s beautiful eyes, as for tanks? well, it's just an awkward situation. a. well, rammstein rammstein by the way speaking, this is the largest american military base on the territory of the form, in general, on the territory of the fed 40 american well, rammstein is the largest and the tempo is hosting a meeting of what he calls tanya and a coalition of states. e in support of ukraine, strictly speaking, this is not even a nato structure. this is such a secret structure from hook, which holds the second such meeting. in this ramstein. first. ah, ended with non-specific results. now we are talking

about how, then, this is an insatiable demand. kyiv, uh, somehow satisfy, but in such a way that they themselves are not strongly substituted for, uh, accusations of cutting the third world war. this is such as they say, but the line, uh, on which they gather. uh, then balance for a while, but here. it’s quite easy to play, i’ll say, but vladimir alekseevich is in terms of playing too much. indeed, after all, in essence, the day before there was a statement by our minister of foreign affairs, and sergei lavrov that this coalition is being created, ours has been created and compared it with the collection of hitler e, which was a lot of criticism, of course, from the europeans, and and so on, but still. after all, this is a fact of another matter, that, as you rightly noted legally speaking, relatively speaking, this is not

anton, there is no need for any other, nor would there be a warsaw treaty. well, that is, it is some kind of legal association of countries. and what do you think, will these 52 countries, which have gathered just in ramstein, go for it, and go for it to be openly diplomatic, but recognize and create some kind of such a legal community. i think there is no talk about it now, because this, in general, is not for anyone by and large. needed, but in the end. eh, no matter what you call them, and no matter where you collect them, but still the final decision will have to be made. uh, they have a government, and each of these countries has its own capabilities, both financial and military, including, uh, has its own

arsenals, which can either, uh, as they say, clean it up, but giving away part of ukraine a can be held, but it is clear, for example, that , probably, no one from a, at least the european countries, will want to completely expose their capabilities. i'm not saying the joined states, whose finals are not at all. so boundless, how could anyone have thought until recently? as for the tanks, but now, but rammstein, okay, this is a military base , and before that, 3 days in davos this in essence. uh, it didn't get any further than that, uh, according to many observers , this year's eodnogorsk, and in many ways means

the end of the illusion about globalization. but this is, uh, the main main canvas, so to speak. a specifically, yes, it has degraded, but to a, in general, indecent bargaining, and on the topic, who will put some tanks in ukraine and not let's say in the bundestag, the frg is already openly asking a question. well, the tanks are fine tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow, what are the planes, and then what are the parts of the bundeswehr, yeah, but, and then ask washington to drop this bomb, but this is the logic, but the chain of events, and which can inevitably lead contrary to even desire, but it authors,

but can lead to irreparable consequences for the whole world, but about the consequences, because there is a feeling that in this militaristic agar, as they used to say, and the european countries and again these statements and canadians, representatives of the government and others that russia must definitely lose, there and so on. this isn't the first time we've heard this, but now this week, those conversations have intensified. and in general, by the end of the week, here, but by today, one gets the feeling that passions are running high, and and of course this is connected, of course, with nothing other than rammstein, but rather, it is, uh, really only a place where they gathered these countries, but these are replicas from our side. these are comments from their side. and what do you think, will we see some kind of denouement of this tension in the near future, or does it not seem so. what is this tension? i think the denouement of this tension will come no sooner.

how will the special military operation end, and it should end with an unequivocal result with our victory, then all the e associated with this issue. er, they will be answered accordingly. well , really, i guess we're getting ahead of ourselves in this issue. well, it seems that everything is in the air, and there is one more question of this week. the european question that i would like to ask you is these demonstrations, again. this is in the treasury of this tension, and be recognized by the european parliament. here is the adoption of this resolution, and the creation of a certain tribunal. how is it possible to comment on this so many times public commented on certain decisions of the european parliament. well, i got bored reading them. to be frank, a, and every time i

, uh, of course, emphasize that that by their status all these resolutions have no duty of force. uh, for the executive structures of the european union and for the member countries of the political background, they certainly create and completely ignore them. at least in rhetoric. uh, the leaders of the mentioned structures of the eu and the member countries can no longer not. well , well, they adopted another resolution, by the way, much shorter than those that were, uh , repeatedly last year, which were adopted, and they are trying to find some kind of loophole in order to cross, as they say, horror as a hedgehog, namely his uh e's intentions at all costs to punish

russia a with, uh, the objective reality that such international law does not provide for such opportunities, therefore, all sorts of inventions begin. but let's e in the international criminal court connected you. it 's impossible. and then let's create a tribunal, passing it through, the general assembly once in the security council, ion of russia registers, but it also doesn't work. then. let's just create it. uh, tribune, we'll appoint an interim prosecutor. who are these? the question is who on what basis all this is happening at all, uh, by what right do you, uh, engage in such fantasies? well, then they are fantasies that they do not need a legal justification. and so, i would not overestimate

the importance of this resolution of the european parliament, yes, vladimir sergeevich yes, thank you very much. indeed, this is a western wishlist that has nothing to do with reality, thank you so much. all the best. the kiev authorities continue to introduce ukrainian-style democracy in their country , one of the directions is the democratization of the ukrainian orthodox churches. well, democratization, of course, in quotation marks, but in fact we are talking about the persecution of the church, which was present on these lands. from time immemorial, things have gone so far that our country initiated this week. the meeting of the un security council is therefore the question of this and others. we will talk about these topics in the first deputy permanent representative of russia to the un dmitry polyansky dmitry alekseevich hello well , let's talk about the meeting a bit later. and now you're back from another meeting. that's what happened today, oh

what are you saying. hello, hello indeed. we've just finished. uh, an informal meeting of a non -security council according to the so -called aria formula, which we dedicated to the criminal actions of ukraine against the inhabitants of donbass , which have been carried out since 2014. we pursued a dual task on the one hand. the focus of attention of our event was the shelling, which intensified at the end of last year, the shelling of donetsk and other cities. donbass on the other hand, taking into account the fact that how would the security council now, uh, new countries came to work, which, perhaps, are not yet so good at this topic, and we wanted to hold something like an educational program. for them, since many have the feeling that all the problems that the world is now facing began, er, on february 24 last year, and this narrative is actively promoted by western countries. and it

seemed to me that we succeeded. uh, at least, here's an attempt to make you think about what happened to the inhabitants of donbass over the past 9 years. we had good speakers. e journalists from spain france i especially want to thank my pirogue, who found the courage to go live with us, despite the fact that quite recently under the ukrainian shell. her daughter died. this is a very courageous move. she told a lot of first- hand impressions, uh, which are difficult to overestimate, and it seems to me that even the police e participants, even from the faces of our former western partners, could see that listening to the topic is extremely unpleasant, but they naturally continue to promote their political mantra about that russia is to blame for everything and that everything can end, if russia is decided this way, we try to provide as much information as possible in order to sow the seeds of doubt among our partners. according to the security council and

members of the un, dmitry alekseevich and now there is a lot of talk that, in general , the united nations organization is losing its influence in the world, and it is completely under the influence of western countries, how would you comment on such statements. there is certainly such a trend, uh, the influence of smell in the un is very large and not only at the management level, but also at the staff level is less significant, but uh, nevertheless uh, the organization, how can try to be objective we are actively working. we are with the general secretary, who is portuguese, but he must be nonetheless. e, so to speak, independent objective in their assessments. this does not always happen, and we directly point it out to him. uh, nevertheless, despite the weakness of the organization. it reflects the world we live in. it can not be better than this world. uh, by definition, it’s another matter that the security council, of

course, is dominated by western countries, and this just one of the directions of the reform of the security council that we support, that it should be higher in the representation of the state, developing which has its own position and which does not adhere to blocks of western approaches. he 's still important. now it is actually the only platform. uh, with which we can uncut, uncensored, convey the truth about what is happening in the donbass. what is happening in ukraine and the reasons? uh, prompting us to launch, uh, a special military operation. well, and for many other issues in in any case, he is the highest diplomatic platform and diplomatic work. it goes far here, you should not always be guided by what you see on the air. uh, open session. this is just the tip of the iceberg. there is a lot of diplomatic work that remains behind the scenes. yes , dmitry alekseevich, and of course, it

should be noted here that this work, which you are talking about, which goes behind the scenes, is not always visible from here. i see often on the net other places. some criticism of our diplomacy, in including work in the un in the sense that, well, we could somehow act more actively. what can you just say, you simply don’t see much. and it’s necessary, maybe somehow, to tell us more about this. or, according to demomatic etiquette, it’s not worth doing. here's how to find some balance right here. we try to talk about what you can, i personally run a telegram channel. uh, who now has a lot of subscribers, i try to share information, including insider information, what can be for people interesting, of course, the work does not stop, and i understand him and many other people who do not know the subtleties, for example, the same in the same formula. uh, when we participated just now, i received a lot of messages with the words, what kind of patience do you have to shout at them,

you need to do something like that, but this is not diplomacy. you see, we are not engaged in megafon and diplomacy. we present a position. e each position of his state. we influence that these positions could change. uh, but it's not done here in his on this makes itself unconditionally capitals. it is a very important dialogue platform, and we are often on it absolutely on an equal footing with them. this is how it will continue, and therefore, of course, you should not expect from us what happens on the show of various channels, when people there start yelling at each other, almost grabbing each other by the breasts, this is not diplomacy. it's anything but diplomacy diplomacy implies a quiet, calm dialogue and the search for, uh, some opportunities. uh, compromise this we are engaged in alekseevich and we know from the life of a person who screams a lot, waving his arms, as a rule, he can do less, but it’s really possible to do than a person who

behaves calmly enough, and then the consequences of his actions are found out. we see it in fiction films, er, and so on, and so in this sense. you are probably absolutely right. there should be clear work here, and there is no need to imitate those diplomats who behave completely differently from what is taught in diplomatic academies and so on, but dmitry alekseevich let's let's get back to the meeting of the security council on e. ukraine upc. e in the end dry residue, what happened after that and what was it about? please remind in our body. the meeting that we had on tuesday, uh, it was dedicated not only to the ukrainian orthodox church, not only to the situation that the ukrainian orthodox church was facing, but was devoted primarily to the strengthening of the zelensky dictatorship, which has especially intensified, er, since the beginning of the social military operation. we talked about more than just religious persecution

and they talked about the ban on opposition parties and the persecution of dissidents, they called for specific examples of people who are actually now turning into an exchange fund for the ukrainian authorities only because they dared to criticize the authorities in the world to give some other assessments. uh meetings received. actually quite a big resonance. and this church aspect a, thanks to metropolitan anthony, also sounded very succinctly and it was very clearly difficult to get rid of the feeling that in ukraine, in this area, e, completely unacceptable things that could potentially destabilize the situation even more. and in general, splash out somewhere outside, that is, create a threat to international peace and security. actually, we started from this when our colleagues requested this meeting. well , what to take from them from the west, and they have

the same mantra, russia is to blame for everything , in general, we don’t pay attention to them. but what is called water wears away a stone, we see that there are a lot of responses to this meeting. there are people who ask questions. and what is actually happening in ukraine, why suddenly there was a need. eh, in fact, the ukrainian authorities and the ukrainian portrait did not like the meeting, in fact, the fight against canonical orthodoxy in this country. at this meeting i quoted several statements of church hierarchs. uh, both opts and other faiths. we did not even find some of them published anywhere, uh, despite the fact that the ukrainian representatives tried to do this. uh, too, uh, wave it, yeah appeal to it, so it's clear that it's was done right under the meeting we understand, uh, sympathize with how u is forced. under what conditions the lpc is forced to exist, and therefore, er, of course,

we understand, in reality, in what circumstances such statements are made, we immediately said this in our speech and thus also smeared it in a certain sense. here, this is a pr effect that the ukrainian representative wanted, uh, to produce, saying that no one asked for this meeting, that the hrc does not need, so to speak, it is not a question of protecting russia only about the epc, but in general, the protection of economic orthodoxy is unconditional. this is our business too, but dmitry alekseevich is actually what happens in the church. this, of course, is an absolute disgrace in the sense that this process is going on. so he went, or rather, before the special military operation, it ’s long enough to remember poroshenko , mr. former president, and who, with all this, uh, rushed about, and so on. that is, it was clearly an attack on our church, and it was planned for a long time and therefore, and now there are a lot of facts when

just the priests of the uoc, they are simply evicted, they are evicted from the houses that belong to the church, there are such facts, a million million, it’s just that there is a lot of capture in fact that the kiev-pechora lavra, well, it’s generally some kind of chaos, as they say in certain circles, but dmitry alekseevich what are your plans? what will you discuss now? on what topics in the near future? in the ukrainian story it is far from the only un security council in the program of work and the security council is not the only body. he believe we have a lot of work on others directions. sometimes they are uh, very uh, getting a lot of attention. as for the ukrainian theme. it seems to me that now, uh, our former western partners are, uh, a bit tired. uh, from these two of our meetings, they need to take a breath. uh, let's see what they come up with, and in february, but february. as you understand, the month is quite a familiar acquaintance and the anniversary of the beginning of its own.

e. i'm sure that ours will take advantage of this no other, and besides, this is uh, the anniversary of the signing of the minsk agreements, uh, which are like never mind. uh, it was still a very good chance to avoid the problems, uh, that ukraine is currently facing and i am sure that these two factors will one way or another be our focus of our attention and where in the assembly, uh, let's see, we are ready for any development of events ? do we have something to say? we have something to present and our arguments absolutely definitely fall on the ground already prepared, and thanks to such events as we held today, thanks to the testimony of the people who live there, who have gone through all this themselves. uh, of course it's very difficult to oppose. well, except to pretend to be blind deaf and repeat. uh, despite everything about russian aggression, what actually our western colleagues continue to do. mitriy alekseevich thank you very much. i think

i really work. you will have a lot. and it's good that you find time to tell us about it. let me remind you that we had a conversation with dmitry polyansky, first deputy permanent representative of russia to the un well, and now, to the same conversation with dmitry polyansky meeting of the un security council after the pre-races of russia during the organization, vasily nebenzya said. ah, as soon as ukraine began to receive long-range weapons. from nato the number of victims. among civilians has grown four times according to our delegation. apu strikes on cities and regions have no military meaning. but often the work of the ukrainian army is destroying those who live in control of the kiev region. disk strikes using high-precision weapons are aimed exclusively at the military and energy facilities of ukraine. however, the means

air defense, with which they are trying to shoot down in violation of the norms of international humanitarian law, they are often located in residential areas as a result of the downed missiles or the air defense missiles themselves fall into the peaceful object. so it was in kremenchug and dnepropetrovsk that missed ukrainian missiles flew into poland and moldova . uh, under the shelling of donetsk gorlovka volnovakha there are also wounded dead. report of our correspondent sergei samokhi. this house is no longer subject to restoration, the roof was completely taken out by the blast wave, the steel beams led the walls turned inside out, the shelling began in the evening and the owners were very lucky that they suddenly decided to go on a visit and there was no one inside the shell broke through the roof of the house and entered. right here in the middle. there is now a funnel of about one and a half meters, and

then the house exploded from this detonation. well, it literally fell apart, like a house of cards, this house is located in the center of the wave to the main city square some 200 m. more not so long ago this settlement was considered relatively safe, but in the last week it has been under heavy fire from the nationalists. targets residential areas, cinema, watched such explosive conducts, the light disappeared well, but there is no house here. here flew a funnel, my height. here it is, yes, they filled it up and the pipe caught fire in that place, he boiled it, it began to burn. and judging by the chronology of events, the goal of the shelling is to destroy as many innocent people as possible. first, two shells were fired at this area, direct hits on a residential building. and so another one and when it would seem that everything

had calmed down people began to take to the streets in half an hour another series of six shells. and at this crossroads, a married couple died, who went out for a walk with the dog on oktyabrskaya street, on which the school was located. it has recently been refurbished under a new area reclamation program with a freshly painted façade. all in fragments on the first floor, the glass was almost completely broken, fortunately there were no students inside at that time. safe and sound, but now it's all the same suffered. very disappointing. it is a pity when all this is over, the destruction, and in the capital of the region, donetsk, under heavy fire, the kirovsky and petrovsky districts at the scene of the incident, striking elements of a fragment of shells were found. here is a presumably caliber of 155 mm, which will be sent to conduct a forensic ballistic examination over the

past day in the cities. the blocking of accounts of the rt channel france is a blatant violation of the freedom of the media that goes beyond the eu sanctions, this is how the russian embassy in france commented on today's news the diplomat and are sure that the persecution of art-france will suffer all the uh, the french-speaking population of europe, because to lose a reliable source of information, the repair publication clarifies that the accounts were blocked at the request of the general directorate of the treasury under the ministry of finance in the execution of the 9th package of the eu sanctions, such are the liberties and pediments freedom equality brotherhood these are the words of the leader. and rt margarita simonyan. well, some more news and the outgoing weeks. henry kissinger considers it expedient for ukraine to join nato, according to former us secretary of state washington

should continue to support kiev and, if necessary, increase military assistance. prior to the ceasefire earlier, kissinger assured that he was opposed to ukraine's membership in the alliance, the idea of ​​a neutral ukraine in these conditions no longer matters. i believe that ukrainian membership in nato would be expedient. the united states lured itself and ukraine to the path of strategic suicide, according to the former american congressman brand viker in his article published in a hong kong newspaper. agee timeson. writes that washington has already suffered a military fiasco in iraq libya afghanistan but now again using the same failed strategy in ukraine, washington's ruling class has made mistakes for decades.