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those people who are now in power in ukraine , they what is called nightmare people? and, i mean, i think that in many ways people are scared. will they go against this completely, naturally, fright, that is, for their lives, for the fact that they suddenly disappear, yes, that is, there is a person, but he was brought in under a white handle and there is no person. will they be able to overcome it? it is a completely natural fear and to protect the canonical church, having gathered in a crowd. i don't know it's really hard to predict. of course not, we can to think that if this happens and the people really rise up, then the authorities will react, because in fact, uh, the canonical orthodox church, and there in ukraine it is the majority church. and if the people rise up against that, we saw, in fact , that even among the uh military, uh, who are
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now fighting in ukraine, some were outraged by this situation, that is, the reaction. maybe if she will. hmm, i don’t know if she won’t, if she doesn’t, i’m afraid that these persecutions will go on, but in fact, the most holy the patriarch spoke about this no at the end of december at the eparchial meeting in moscow, what is happening now in ukraine from the church point of view. this is the work of the devil. he uh, literally, he just said that you lost the network, that this is the business of those who allowed the devil's cancer to their hearts. and this is not a figure of speech, this is real, but the struggle of uh father of lies father of hatred against uh the church. christ , therefore, the authorities, apparently, as far as they can, will continue to act as they are acting now. well, since you're talking about his holiness the patriarch of her sermon on the feast of epiphany, he called for a quote to pray to the lord
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so that he would enlighten those madmen who want to destroy russia, this will mean the end of the world. that is, the church, uh, still insists that they want to destroy russia. you know, in fact, uh, western politicians are talking about the destruction of russia. they talk about the need to already divide. uh, kind of wildly colonize as they say. that is, we did not come up with this at all, not uh, not representatives. they are not carried by the patriarch, not by representatives of the russian statehood. this is what they are talking about, e back, about what victory over russia entails, among other things . uh, well, the scenario of dismemberment is favorable for them, that is, its destruction, not actually. do we need vladyka? that is the question? well, they say there, you never know what, they say. yes, whoever does not jump, that muscovite, you can say whatever you want in your own telegram channel. let me remind you of some ergo sums
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for those who want to subscribe to you. do you have a recent and such post about the negative emotional buildup of giving up prudence i will quote one more misfortune or rather risk - this is the buildup of negative emotions associated with the rejection of prudence envy hatred. debauchery, despondency, godlessness, panic fear weaken any person. any society opens the way to its destruction. why should we duplicate this idea about the need to destroy or dismember russia there, if we are united, we are not afraid of this, and we are strong as an elephant. well, we can just ignore this pug or step on it there. why patriarch? uh, being human ecclesiastical, but not secular, nor a politician. it comes back to this idea again and again that somewhere out there they want to destroy russia. well, you know, first of all, after all, we are not in a situation, like a mosquito. still, against us, but a very powerful, uh, coalition. uh, world so we're
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here really this is for us the patriarch, says u pray to the lord that he understands the madmen who want to destroy russia this will mean the end of the world the patriarch make it clear that russia is the word. why wait the patriarch said what he said let's not interpret his words. and once again, uh, still against us. uh, the coalition is fighting very hard. yes, but in huge countries, that is, in fact, the situation is certainly not simple. well, actually, we see this if it were a simple, military operation, would have ended already, well, almost immediately, so the situation, of course, is not simple, but people still need to understand what is happening and why in the end why a military a warrior needs to understand? why do they fight for what they howl to people who donate here, and even funds some kind of their well-being in the rear, too, you need to understand. what happens with all the
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clauses and sentences that uh, of course, uh, the church is separated from the state, uh? well, let's say that the gospel is not a formal legal law, but for the country, but for ours, that is, we are in no way in some e hmm muslim country, where sharia sometimes replaces the law in our country in a different way, nevertheless, and russia is one of such pillars, which for the time being can still save, but protect and defend. actually, as it was in the un, why are we began to defend christian ideals in this world, and from our point of view, from the point of view of christians, if the antichrist ever comes and anti-christianity triumphs, then the world will end its existence. therefore, for now, russia is one of those pillars that keeps the world from final destruction. russia too. maybe unfortunately
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go down a negative path, so we need to be very careful not to be proud of him for what i said there to admire yourself. oh, what we are such good fellows, what, but for now, hmm we do something for christianity, but always with great apprehension with great humility to accept, so that for the time being we can still do something, or we may or may not do it, we can take a negative path and hmm participate in this anti-christian holiday or the euro tribunal on the other day, 478 votes for and 19 against voted for putin's tribunal. how do you comment on this? this is probably more secular news, after all. that is, as a citizen of russia, i am outraged by this. and if in general, so to speak, to look at the question more globally. i think that and those people in europe are they in the majority or not? not
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sure if they are in the majority. and if you take all the peoples, the entire people of europe but , if you take the ruler about hmm, the authorities , the authorities, those in power in europe, then they make up the majority, as we see, i think that they would like to judge not but the head of our russian state, they would like to judge russia itself yes, we have consistently seen for many years. actually hmm yes for many centuries, in fact, how e europe opposes russia interferes with it. uh, for different reasons at different times , once upon a time, it must have been more economic or rank or political now , again, and my conviction is that e russia is at the opposite pole from those ideals of anti-value from our point of view, which form the basis of the world that is now being created in europe, so russia
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is already so, if you like, but a metaphysical adversary for europe, and therefore they don’t want to judge vladimir vladimirovich putin, well, he , too, of course, and not although they really wanted it from him, but they want to judge precisely the whole of russia and also the news in the textbook on literary reading for second grade. well, photos of this textbook appeared on the internet, explaining the spread to students. who is fascist hitler , what is lend-liss to get acquainted with proverbs about the war, they tell how children lived during the great patriotic war. i remember the years of my studies at mgimo well , the first language. i had german, which meant nine there. nine pairs for an hour and a half a week, it was seriously such a linguistic education and all the textbooks printed on a typewriter. they were here exclusively about the great patriotic war
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a war about the cold war, the division of germany into a western eastern e, a wall, and everything and everything that follows. therefore, when i first arrived in germany, i did not know how to explain to a hotel that there was no need for a room or order a beer in a restaurant, but i knew such things as the ministry of foreign affairs and vile traffic transmissions. this is approximately the reaction the germans had - laughter, because that's what it is for us. uh, in the noughties it was even in the educational system of the university, something close to them was something already very far from the past life. uh, do you think that in general the second grade students need to know what a land is? fox what is a kerosene stove laughed? it ’s not because what you are talking about that i laughed far from me, because when teaching a language you need to learn the spoken language, and not that which is not used in well in communicating with people.
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as for the fact that schoolchildren are taught such things, i cannot be in germany now. uh, maybe, well anyway uh hmm so teaching your language learning german by m-m in this terminology. this is a separate question as regards the second grade textbook. yes, you said, uh, the study of the history of the great patriotic war, and why not, for me, for example, has always been the most interesting since childhood. i think it's useful to know, and the first war, for example, the war of 1812, and well, you know, i studied in france at a school, yes, where i was born, grew up, but it was not taught there either. like this, like this, but i studied it myself, and it was interesting. this is important to know. and how does it say things? uh, long bygone traditions deep antiquity. and all this, of course
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, you need to know your past. this does not mean that you need to be in it, but to drown in the fact that it is the main thing in the life of our fatherland. the most important thing in people's lives. the main thing is hmm striving forward. well, to keep moving forward. we rely on something. what to run, yes. or somehow , in uh running competitions, athletes, when they are, uh, start running. they put their foot on some kind of deck. here but if it hadn’t become much more difficult to start, so that also for us, to develop e develop myself. to develop our country, but in order to develop, you need to know your past , understand what happened before, otherwise. well, it's like really, really arguing with the fact that we need to know, uh, our past. and we have great musicians. we have, uh, writers. there is mendeleev. we have polar explorers. we have discovered antarctica, but i assure you and i am
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more than sure that if these people apply, say, for government grants with some projects, and together with them they will seek or say a documentary film about the great patriotic war will lead the last. why exactly the idea of ​​war and the fact that war we are russia, we are holy war, we are defending ourselves against us all and we are defending ourselves. why, for decades, this military theme has been leading when we talk about patriotism. why don't i really know ? so you mentioned my telegram channel, and in the telegram, and i communicate with a fairly wide, wide range of authors of different telegram channels. very patriotic, very wise reasoning, and who also who say that, well, it is by no means, and this topic is the theme of the great
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patriotic war. it is certainly important, but it is not the only one. they develop many different other subjects in advance. a hmm i can’t be responsible for uh, thoughts or decisions or what to think, those people who award certain grants well , really, what can we say about what, that you need to look at our history, of course, in a complex, and by no means only e, the great patriotic war is our property. this is also our property, but uh, the main thing, what you need to rely on is the creation of our country, this is ideals, maybe because the great patriotic war is about which about the war, about which many still remember. yes, there are direct participants, and more and more direct participants are leaving us for completely natural reasons. but, well, someone's parents still fought there, grandfather , grandmother, that is, the memory is still fresh in the great
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great patriotic war. and i saw a lot of qualities that are important to us yes, and friendship courage, uh, including patriotism, but love for the fatherland, and all this is not protection from something. and what was positive in people. it's really bright and possible, and it's a good positive example, the way people treated each other. of course not, there were a lot of bad things. we also understand this, and there are many bad people, including among a-a, among there. our fellow countrymen then. yes, there were collaborators there. it would have been a betrayal, but it was clearly a lot of good. ah, which what is a really good example of another thing, namely, as it seems, it is precisely on this that we must first insist on talking about what ideals we would like these ideals to form the basis of our country. they manifested themselves not only in the great
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patriotic war. well, and now, i mentioned the first patriotic war until 1812 and not only the soldiers, they showed themselves and in general it is important to talk about what is important to talk about. ah, well, really positive things. eh, i once formulated what i think for myself the foundations, so to speak, of the russian idea, if you like, this is faith in god by the very fact that it is combined. yes, to be honest, i do not speak e christian or understanding. faith of god or not christian, although they certainly believe that in the history of our pants of our people, although uh different uh different national and different religious people, but certainly orthodoxy is the basis. uh, from our history of our culture. e. well, that's right, lin's faith in god is all that with her resistance to the evil of violence. oh by the way, the national evil force. yes, but it's still a very complex concept.
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one that i think needs to be discussed separately . here you need to take to read many philosophers who talked about this, but non-resistance to evil is a force in the gospel, when it is said that it is not turning the second cheek, it applies to you personally. if to me to an individual person, but, that is, if a person is personally ready to suffer, we meekly harm him , then, uh, he will receive a reward from god, but this does not mean that there is, let's say, but he sees a man, how it offends, well, it doesn't offend. it's uh, well, let's say his wife is his kids. uh, how endangered not insults, but endangers attacking his wife, his children, right? or just a person on the street. not necessarily a man. now, if you are there, i don’t know you have a can in your purse and you will see that some girl was attacked on the street. well , probably, you will still try to protect her , or at least call people who
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will protect them, they use force, they use force in relation. uh, attackers to use. they protected e man from evil force, so this is such a concept that needs to be reasoned, which needs to be explained if it does not ask for protection, but a person may and is no longer able to ask, and maybe a person and in the end . what does it mean that he doesn’t ask for protection, that is, he attacks a person, but if he doesn’t ask for protection, then either they shut his mouth, or he doesn’t understand what is happening to him and there is hardly a person who is being attacked, on who is raped or beaten, who would like the continuation of this process. here, therefore, non-resistance to evil force is such a thing, uh, which are really need to argue. ah, in continuation of the initial military training from the fifth grade
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, six out of ten russians approved in the country. against this. although these basics, despite their name. although, as far as i understand, er, it was not only, mainly orthodox culture. we have a compensatory country of justified buddhism and judaism, and uh, islam and so on you don’t it's a shame that, uh, when well, they were going to teach the basics just one class a week, let's say, the religion of teaching for schoolchildren was such a position, and six out of ten parents support military training of children from the fifth grade, to be exact, to answer, to clarify uh this moment. uh, the subject is called the basis of religious cultures and secular ethics. and there are several modules to choose from. eh, parents. this can be the basis
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of orthodox culture, the basis of islamic culture, the foundations, of all religious cultures, or the teaching of soviet ethics, and you parents, respectively, er, in the fourth, it seems the class chooses. what will be taught to his child, this is not a subject, so to speak, not of religious cultural content, why it should be a shame , but with a career, this is about what, that a lot and much has changed, in fact, if the same survey would have been conducted a year ago. i am by no means sure that the result would have been the same, most likely the number e, positively answer, so that it would be much lower, and the world is changing, and our people are changing too. we are in circumstances that a entail a profound change. uh, people's understanding of how they live? what's happening? walks what to focus on? so i talked about ideals, and about the russian idea, how to formulate these. yes? this is faith in god, this is
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russianness, this is sovereignty, and people understand that, uh, they also understand what is needed, but it needs to change, therefore, this year, unlike if then i would just repeat it would have been done a year ago, they answered so because they understand external circumstances. think, what and if there was a survey regarding, uh, teaching, uh, religious cultures, he , too, how would the percentage be, the percentage would be higher than it used to be, firstly, because people are also used to this, but secondly, because many people understand that it is necessary, uh, to focus more and more on higher values, and then in fact, if another very simple moment, what is the basis of military training, right? well, he's obviously obvious now. why did people answer that way, but the question is, uh, understanding that you need to navigate
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on the highest values, he comes to people. we also need to convey this issue. well , education is a question. e. well, including, after all, sermons, yes, if we talk about it from the point of view of a priest in the military i remember exactly what it's called, but which deals with hmm spiritual related values. yes, it seems, yes somehow, that's what it's called. this is also something relatively new, when it is touched upon in the steam acts of our country. not just questions of the economy there, if we talk about the criminal code, questions about wasudi, and and so on, and the issues that are touched upon are fundamental, and ethical, moral, and moral from the point of view precisely. metaphysical, they are simply in terms of there punishment for the crime committed. we are changing the world is changing. eh, just recently,
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and the name of god was e for the first time yes, in uh it is mentioned in the constitution, these are also significant changes, but such changes in the souls of people in the minds of people, they take much more time of time, than to suddenly understand that the basis of military training really does not hurt, so a woman serves in the army , a woman in israel was generally asked if women in russia should serve. i think not. you pay a lot of attention to a lot of posts in the telegram channel. recently, the situation with the russian cemetery in paris in sangeles virgin here is the paris head of cooperation. primakov said that the situation. well let's just say the media hyped lemondon. uh, french we buildings that it's not so serious. it's more of a question french money, just traded. ah, what is really going on around this cemetery? well, i still, well, i haven’t lived in france for a long time. although, of course, i communicate with the
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rest. i have relatives i know there and, of course, here, first of all , it is a question of legal and such international relations. primakov, of course, is more competent. uh, can tell about what is happening there, but as far as i understand, as far as really, on the very first day when this news got out, i contacted one of my acquaintances who can know about situation the situation is very simple hmm in the russian cemetery in the cis or rather russian. it is called by tradition. although there is already a very large part, but there are, well, there are not russians, that is, this is a municipal cemetery in parts that are historical people. well, now it has grown far beyond this part of the russian cemetery in st. gelbem, there are several. uh, let's say two parts, there is such a historical part where, well, where, where there is part of the history, where the white officers are buried and
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white. uh, some members of the white movement prominent hmm emigrants, and this part, as far as i understand, it is, and as far as i’m talking there, at least it is a historical monument and nothing threatens at all, like any historical monument, but another thing is that around this part of the russian cemetery there are a lot of graves. well, let's just say ordinary russian emigrants, ordinary people whose names are known to few people, if the graves of those people whose descendants are still alive and pay rent accordingly. e graveyard place take care of these graves, but many, many of those, of course, who had no descendants left. there are no relatives left. uh, the unknown people who are buried here are russian people. and it was precisely for the rent of these graves, as far as i understand, that the russian state paid. it was like that. well, a noble desire to preserve the memory of those who were
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once forced to leave our fatherland well, that's the reason why this happened. i don't know, well i guess. and what, firstly, we are from this city, i repeat, the municipal cemetery refused to pay. you are from russian money states, and firstly, because, because of the international situation, they say not to take money from this russia, yes, this is such in line with russophobia back in the west. secondly, i do not exclude. although here, in order to accuse mm with conviction, but you need to have facts, and do not exclude that, uh? there is also a mercantile interest, because the cemetery place. if released, it is income. yes, he can have it there , but to rent it to someone else, that is, the remains, if any, but they are exhumed, they are transferred, they are transferred to the ossuary and, accordingly, the place can sell it grow very cynical. now, if
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that's the case, it's certainly awful. well, one way or another, hmm, i think that the hype that was raised around this topic, even if the only reason was a refusal to accept money from the russian state, it served to the benefit, because just the other day the mayor's office with engineer de boa announced that no no one will ever touch russian graves, that is, of course, if after this hype someone touched, then, of course, it would be very easy to point a finger at the fact that the mayor's office is fighting calmly, the mayor's office is violating. e son e of the dead and that, well, that would be shameful and mary, of course, immediately denied such a possibility, perhaps precisely because the hype was raised. so now , as far as i understand, and the topic has been removed, we will follow
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closely, of course, this story, the development around the russian cemetery near paris. and you lada - this is the most i thank you for coming to the studio were our guests. thank you for inviting me.
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