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hello kirill vyshinsky, and this program is a typical novorossiya, our new name says it all, we will talk about the territory that has returned to its historical roots in novorossiya. we will continue to follow the ukrainian processes.

we will analyze them. and yet today, in our opinion, it is much more interesting to observe how life will change in the donbas zaporozhye kherson regions in new russian regions with the help of a careful look at the history of borussia we will try to reveal the originality of its present day, find in it typical features, but also recognizable signs of the past. and that's what we'll talk about today. inhabitants of industrial cities history of the people of the population who are the new citizens of russia conversation with an expert of the program writers, composers actors talented natives of the donbass steppes? the history of the settlement

of novorossia is in many ways history the legendary wild fields in these steppes were roamed by the ancient khimirians , homer recalls them in the odyssey, then the scythians lived here, the golden, scythia, the central part of their once powerful kingdom. this is also the donbas khazars. the pechenegs all passed through these steppes, it was here that they brought their regiments to the polovtsian land for the russian land prince igor the hero the word about igor's regiment for some time the lands of novorossia were poorly settled territories between the black sea and the forest zone, the development of novorossia. begins in the era of peter the great it was a russian imperial project to accommodate the multinational population here. it all started

with military settlements, the southern borders, the empire had to be protected from the turkish and tatar threats; their first inhabitants were the serbs , who were actively lured to these lands by russian administrators. under elizabeth, entire colonies of southern slavs, serbs, moldavians, bulgarians, hungarians, slavic serbia and new serbia appeared in novorossia, the main step in settling these steppes was made by catherine ii, her manifesto was not only given financial benefits, settled here by a foreigner, but also guaranteed freedom of religion for the non-believers, it was the russian empire that breathed life into borussia and brought new people here. after russia joined the land of the crimean khanate, the germans began to develop cultural land in new russia, the greeks and armenians trade and crafts , the ukrainians and russians built cities, the scots and the french brought here. industrial technologies at the turn

of the nineteenth-twentieth century , a real industrial riot began in novorossia, first the mines and then the factories needed in hundreds and thousands of workers already in soviet times in this territory, following the economic growth, there was also a demographic growth after the collapse of the soviet union. despite all the economic difficulties, novorossiya. it remained one of the most densely populated regions by 2014. about 6.5 million people lived in the donbass alone, more than in the three countries. the baltic states combined. this is one of the most urbanized regions in europe where almost 90% of the population is concentrated in cities and towns. today on new more than four million people live in the territories that have become subjects of the russian federation about what kind of people have become new

citizens of russia in the story of anna efimova this year, these shots have spread all over. we are on the armor of heavy equipment, implied by the yellow-block flags of the trained fighters of ukrainian nationalists, full equipment against them ordinary donbass men these shots were taken by eyewitnesses in mid-april 2014 existence. i am 75 years old. which one did they throw? they still believed that sooner or later they would become part of russia, and frankly speaking, such russian patriots should even be looked for in the russian

federation itself. of the world on the other hand, a truly patriot of his region of his republic. and on this character or ukraine stumbled. of course, they couldn’t do anything with him , they couldn’t even when they showed the spanking of opponents maidanov on the second of may in the odessa house. soyuzov turned into a tragedy with dozens of ukrainian citizens burned alive, despite the efforts of the oligarch akhmetov, they could not propagate the maidan on the idea among the workers of the donbas factories belonging to him. i urge all labor collectives to come out tomorrow to warn and protest at the place of work after 2014, the donbass turned out to be divided by the front line, rubizhne, a city of many thousands in the lugansk region, became the epicenter of the fighting. today it is under the control of the russian military , at first the fighting, actions of the population of the city decreased by about 15 times, despite

the orders that the kiev regime established here. there were and still are people who say what they think on the air of ukrainian tv channels. frontier territory of ukraine but you understand, we have different ukraine with you, for example, fascist ukraine. i'm fine. ukraine all these years. ukraine said that neither their people live here, that their people are the so-called residents. long gone? you enter a kindergarten, and there it says on the stand that we have there arrived, it means refugees from the donbass, so we ask you to give them clothes and tvs. we will bomb them. that is, it didn’t occur to them that, let’s say, not the love of the inhabitants of donbass for ukraine is due not to moscow’s propaganda, but to bombs falling on their heads, however, some svidomo

patriots. everything has already remained, moreover, in the east of ukraine a whole generation has grown up and brought up the war and brought up in different ways their centuries. these children still have not left there. they stayed in the area. well, if he or went to russia at all in his head, then they a little different guys these things. in a few years, electorally, in the russian elections, any number of new citizens will reach from 7 to 8 million. the people voting are political ukrainians, namely donbass and the east. ukraine has always decided. who will become president independent in any election. each time the winner was the candidate who applied. and as it turns out later.

inukovych or zelensky simply flirted with the inhabitants of donbass if people in the east and crimea want to speak russian to unhook. get away from them coincidence or not, but about western candidates every time they came to power, exclusively through the maidans, this was the case in 2004 and only then 10 years later on the bloody maidan 2014. if you look a-a at the data or the election results, starting from the ninety-first year, and the candidate who put in the east of ukraine or turned to him always won. the only exception to yushchenko well, actually. here is the story of 2004 before the revolution , the moment when i generally broke the fate of ukraine over the knee. rectal processes were severely disrupted. and now the residents of donbass open looked at these saying that this is how donbass, which grew out of working mining villages, eventually grew into rural ukraine, proudly calling itself

an agrarian superpower, the share of the urban population in the peaceful donbass reached 90%, on average in ukraine this indicator did not exceed 60 %. and as official statistics show, donbass also had the highest level of economically active population in 2014 in terms of the number of working people, donbass was absolutely ahead all other regions. ukraine donbass has never had any separatist thoughts there. yes, ukrainians continue to accuse us of which they accused us. and we lived within the framework of one ukraine and yes , we have always been focused on russia, this integration vector has always been characteristic of us in terms of mentality, in terms of culture, but nevertheless, what happened in the donbass in 2014. this is, after all, a very sharp and most adequate reaction to the illegal coup d'état in

the center of kiev, now talking about the donbass often use, the past tense were indicators were achievements were financing and production donbass, which historically was called a wild field today due to incessant shelling, has become, a field, be with jenny, an outflow of the population of a destroyed infrastructure. all this is. but the fact that it will be different is beyond doubt, because such is the donetsk character. anna efimova valery savelyev anastasia popova is a typical new russia. about who these people are the inhabitants of novorossiya, who have now become citizens of russia, we will talk with our permanent expert historian political scientist rostislav. ishchenko rostislav good afternoon. good afternoon , rostislav, what distinguishes these people from the inhabitants of novorossiya from other citizens of russia, what is special about them? well, especially it's probably

nothing. she. they just recently fought on the other side of the front line. these people were drafted into the army and mobilized. they won in comparison with the donbass, called the lpr. there is a rather big problem with loyalty, because the local population. uh, used to living, uh, not in ukraine, and uh for the last few years start the fourteenth year. i even got used to fighting for ukraine unconditionally. not the entire population. yes, but a significant part. and how homogeneous is the population of novorossia in general. here is how the people of donbass differ, for example, from the inhabitants of the kherson zaporozhye region of a homogeneous population. in general, it does not exist anywhere in any direction in any territory. it may be more heterogeneous less heterogeneous in novorossiya. it is very heterogeneous precisely the strength of the prevailing circumstances. even kherson is still serious differs from the same zaporozhye, because if we look at the voting map in ukraine, kherson always voted closest to the west from all the southeastern regions. and so he actually voted for us, about the

same as kiev means, that is, in fact, about breakfast. well, because at one time a fairly large number of former banderaites appeared in the khristoforsky region , who had their terms there, and then many were forbidden to return to their homeland, which means that someone was simply afraid that they would kill him. in general, in a neighboring village, or even in his own village, it is clear that now we are dealing with our great-grandchildren, but nevertheless. eh, it must be taken into account that this region was and , er, originally. well, in fact , the pro-russian phenomenon is tuned out of uh, all uh, the sources of even the central regions of ukraine kherson zaporozhye still not all of novorossia. but donbass, how did these people differ? yes, donbass is different, because donbass fought for its independence from ukraine, fought for eight years. if originally there mood were, well such conventions. do not touch us, but we

agree even with you to be in the same state. only means the most do not come here with your own rules. so, here, it ’s understandable that after e even the massacres and shelling of the fourteenth year. there the mood was perfectly applied. they see e in russia e, so to speak, in a certain plan of salvation. yes, from ukraine, yes, that is, they cannot be considered russian. so here it is on one side, on the other side. they would like russia to become more active and efficient. decided problems and specifically their region. so, because they are not often immersed in them too much. he simply does not understand that russia has problems in the baltic and in the north and further in the far east, that there is only one problem in the donbass. and that russia is not at war with ukraine russia is at war with the global empire of the united states. she is fighting all over the world now, which means, again , donbass is only one. the great part, but this is the only thing that brings some

tension, from my point of view, to the relationship between the residents of donbass and other citizens of russia, uh let's hope that these problems will disappear sooner or later. but will it be easy for the inhabitants of novorossiya to become citizens of russia with their ukrainian experience. and what they will have to overcome in themselves in order for this terrible thing to happen in russia, there are no problems at all, they get a passport in line, and feel like russians. well, it’s easy for someone to feel like a russian, and someone will never be able to do this, because he feels not russian. he has been for decades. it's the mainstream of myself denies. fighting him destroys her. and for him to turn back would be simply impossible. this is too individual citizen. first of all, these are rights and obligations. well, yes, these mean rights and obligations, but again, a citizen is also a feeling of unity. ah, with my family. they

will receive russian passports, russian citizenship, and so on. they will be loyal, even they will fulfill their duties, or serve in the army there. this means that they will not rob or kill anyone, which means they will work and pay taxes. here, but citizens do not always feel they will not be complete. uh. i don't know where the percentage will be. yes, there are five ten percent, 2%, three, well, it will be a fairly large number of people and it is treated only in time. that is, uh, in decades. after a new generation is born who have not seen another state. by the way, uh, another state ukraine was frankly weak, if at all it was a state somehow with a certain social system, emerging ties between the state and garage in this sense, russia of course, a completely different state. medicines from this point of view to the citizens of novorossiya. how difficult or not to enter into this new feeling of a strong state will be

people who are quite natural. uh, they will gladly become a russian citizen. even now, it’s not like my acquaintances write something from novorossia, not from kiev. yes, even if russia would at least have smashed kiev into dust, but rather russian troops would have come here. but this cannot be called the mood of the kievan population in general. yes, there are people who think so in exactly the same way, and in novorossiya there will be people who will, uh, adhere to some views, who will adhere to other views. so they will have problems. not even with a strong state. they will have problems with the implementation of laws, because for 30 years they have become accustomed to living in a state where one could not even have to exist in parallel with the state. and that's just it here is the difference. yes, the impossibility of picking up one key for everyone. it will be serious problem for these. territories, because it will not be possible to come with a single pattern and say, here are the guys for you. we have selected the formation of a happy life for you. now

the main thing is to fit into it and everything will be fine. uh, it will be necessary to invent and find a large number of formats so that, uh, this whole population of them fits into the new life as quickly and efficiently as possible. thank you very much for a very interesting and detailed story. novorossia, the territory of new development is a mixture of nationality and cultures, and at the same time, it is the closest inextricably linked with russian culture, many writers, artists and composers were born on this land , created on it the world-famous works of the composer. sergei prokofiev was born. in the village of solntsevka , yekaterinoslav province, from childhood i caught in the rustle of the grass of the donetsk steppes, a special harmony of sound. here is a ten-year-old composer. he wrote his first operas giant

and on the deserted islands. when at the age of 13 he came to enter the moscow conservatory in his folder there were notes of his own symphony four operas, two sonatas and many piano works today in the little motherland of composers in the pokrovsky district. donetsk region has a museum in the hall of which his music sounds. at the beginning of the 19th century, the luhansk land gave the world the great russian writer, the author of the explanatory dictionary of the living great russian language, vladimir dal. his first book, published in 1832 with a long title, russian fairy tales from folk legend civil attached to any tuzhitei, fitted and sayings walking painted further signed by the cossack vladimir

luhansk descendant russified dachan, born in the village of lugansk factory now, lugansk has defined the issue of nationality for itself. whoever thinks in what language belongs to that people. i think in russian. painter arkhip kuindzhi singer iosif kobzon film director sergei bondarchuk all of them are natives of novorossia in soviet times in voroshilovgrad today lugansk began his path in art and the great russian artist pavel luspekaev the image of his movie hero russian officer vereshchagin who pronounces the words yamzda i don’t take me detaining it insultingly became the embodiment of real, and not ostentatious patriotism at the pavel luspikaev theater festival, which takes place annually in lugansk in the story of olga mokhova in 2017 and

military conflicts in the donbass, the international theater festival named after pavel lupikaev , lady of luck, then it was accepted participation of six teams from the lpr and russia in 2022 the participants were already 17 from the neighboring dpr was transnistria and belarus mrs. dacha was originally conceived as a festival for people. who are constantly on the lookout who are true to their work, who show courage in one way or another in the profession, on the example of the great russian artist in lugansk, there is something in memory of the two pavlov allupikayev and the hero vereshchagin played by him in the last back in 2011 . local customs officers opened the monument and preserved it during the shelling of lugansk in the fourteenth. in the white sun of the desert, the actor starred a year before his death. he played with

amputated toes, the consequences of severe frostbite received during the great patriotic war at the age of sixteen went to volunteers at the front and served in the partisan detachment. he liked it so much. he really liked her and despite the fact that he had to walk on the sand, if i can say in the kitchens on this very southern sand, but because what a character is in many ways. m is the character, of course, the very success of it. however, as he said. once oleg basilashvili was a colleague. luspekaeva in the service in the bdt role. vereshchagin 1 millionth of what the actor did on stage, while theater critics are convinced he could do even more. and if it were not for the disease, a completely exceptional phenomenon in the theater in the theater world, and it just so happened that the poor fellow didn’t get to do everything. for what it was

intended actor absolute organ player actor of extraordinary temperament actor of such a clear survival in the image in the role. e, which, probably, did not exist on our stage at all in our cinema. in june 1944, pavel lupekaev passed the competition in the youth studio and was enrolled in the position of artists of the auxiliary composition of the voroshilovgrad regional russian drama theater, even then he stood out among the peers of the bright appearance and extraordinary demands on the acting profession do not take. i feel sorry for the state. what a joy for young pasha was his first role. eh? the servants in the play in the play dog in the manger according to the play by vega

's paddle were then under the chestnut trees of prague, then they were at the bottom and in those years there were a lot of e concert teams in which, of course, the fight took part. those who worked with pavel uzbekaev are unanimous in their opinion, he did not play, he lived on stage, and no matter what character he took on, he certainly came out a lively memorable image in the tbilisi theater, where he played 18 roles and in the kiev name of lesya ukrainka, from where, on the recommendation of kirill lavrov, he was invited to leningrad by the director of the bjd georgy tonov both in film and on television. dead souls ladies. you will give me your britzka and so 300 rubles extra, and what will you go yourself? i'll give you another pancake there , you just repaint it, it will be a miracle of shaving. well, come on, i'll

tell you a restless demon dead souls after graduating from the shchipkin theater school. pavel uspikaev dreamed of serving in the moscow maly the theater prevented this accent, an outstanding southerner actor decades later, in 2022 , the stories of the two theaters intersected lugansk , where he began his career, and where did he aspire to? on their day off, the artists of the maly theater played two performances of dead souls and donated the proceeds from ticket sales to the purchase of a bus for the pavel luspekaev theater. in lugansk, muscovites presented the play late love based on the play of the same name, by alexander ostrovsky, this meeting was unusual, that is, people were so happy with our arrival. they were so open. they are so friendly that when my employees arrived at luhansk, they said that it was the best tour, and we travel

a lot, and therefore they are ready to come on tour again and again, and welcome lugansk colleagues on the moscow stage. young zheludonians who only dream of devoting their lives to the acting profession now have the opportunity to enter the shchepkin theater school at the maly theater according to the target set, people learned how the lugansks lived there our comrades all these years. in general, we were not quite in the know, that is, let's say we were not at all in the know. that's when the people who were there tell it. this is where it gets scary. and of course i want to help help help. the main prize of the festival, lady, luck of marriage and the very first such prize was awarded to pavel vospitykaev. but today, perhaps, all lugansk artists rightfully deserve this prize. and those who kept devotion to their theater in these difficult years, and those who left the stage went to defend their land olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev is a typical new russia. that's all

we wanted to talk about. kirill vyshinsky was with you today. see you soon.

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