yes, the metropolitan. uh, budapest hungarian illarion, that is, apparently, security officers. they didn't bother to follow the church news and didn't know that vladyka larion. he's working today on another pinning with paste. you will also be on the european sanctions list for you, it will , uh, change something in your life and work. for me. this is unlikely to be something, it means that i just live in a situation where e there logically explains something with someone, it is very difficult to argue about minimizing it. after all, he is compiling this list, just for positions. yes, simply because i occupy such a place, i am a bishop of the russian church, and what motivates these people who make these lists quite obvious. this is purely political motivation. and the fact that this is happening is that i got into the ukrainian list. and if i get into some other lists there, it simply means that that work, that service, that obedience, which i will carry out. it

eventually achieves its goals. i'm trying to draw the attention of the world community to those problems serious problems that exist today in relation to the economic church in ukraine to these persecutions. i have used this word more than once today, and it is clear that the ukrainian authorities do not like it. e. well, that's why they take such steps. it means that we are doing everything right, this is still such a part more theoretical, but on the ground in ukraine it really happens, mass searches of detention the day before , just a couple of days ago, on the instructions of the country's president vladimir zelensky, as they emphasized, the sbu worked out people alive, which by their actions harm the security of the state in various fields. that is , we understand that there were some new arrests. e. it is known that this is about regular detentions. uh, absolutely servants of the bishops. the fact is that this kind of pressure exerted by the authorities of ukraine on the clergy of the canonical church. this is a process that

is now almost permanent . we regularly become witnesses of reports in the press and from some of our personal contacts, we learn about how everything is to the new hierarch to priests at night early in the morning, uh, ukrainian security officers break in, turn their cells upside down, their offices, and, uh, find them there in quotation marks. uh, some evidence that they are somehow connected with moscow and with the state that ukraine considers the aggressor and serve as such evidence, but easter greetings. e bishop signed by the patriarch of moscow and all russia kirill book. e, dedicated to the problems of the ukrainian split. uh, some old ones.

publications that in general, well, it’s obvious that they don’t pose any threat , dai ne are not evidence of any criminal actions of these bishops of these priests of these laity, but under these completely far-fetched fabricated pretexts, pressure begins blackmail begins threats hmm and that’s it. this happens obviously because the corresponding command is given. and i would like to emphasize that all these actions. here's how, uh, it's called quoted. yes, only as it is called the authorities of ukraine, yes. eh, after all, you need to understand what all. this is done only in relation to one particular religious denomination, only in relation to the canonical ukrainian orthodox church. that is, it is with a completely obvious, but completely planned discrimination. in this regard, i have questions. i asked it to other guests. i'll ask you. is it possible for you to have an orthodox maidan in ukraine? can orthodox people stand up there who go to canonical churches? in

defense of the economic ukrainian orthodox church, you know, history, of course, does not know subjunctive moods and it is difficult to talk about what will happen next, but what is despite all these actions. i mentioned only some of them now uh, despite the uh very painful actions of the ukrainian authorities for the orthodox believing people. such as withdrawal. and now even the greatest shrines of the ukrainian orthodox church. uh, the kiev-pechersk lavra, and uh, an attempt to persuade the brothers of the lavra, uh, again, the bishops into priests of the laity to persuade them to what to ensure that they renounce their church and enter into schism, these attempts. for the most part parts. they are not successful, because the believing people stands for the truth stands for the truth, and i am sure that despite all these attempts to break. e people, of course, no one will ever eradicate faith from all hearts. and, of course, i am sure that the believing pious

ukrainian people are strong in their faith, and they will stand, despite all these threats. what do you think the boat looks like? anthony, is it only ukraine , only kiev, that are to blame for the fact that these persecutions of the canonical church are taking place now. we somehow forget in this context in a conversation, for example, the patriarch constantinople, which, strictly speaking, made possible, otherwise the schismatics got something from us. the patriarch of constantinople tried, uh, unilaterally to give the so-called, let's put it in quotation marks , canonical legitimacy to what is happening and unconditionally. e from the very beginning, when the ukrainian authorities conceived this strategically adjusted program of persecution of the canonical church by patriarch bartholomew. he blessed everything, encouraged and did everything possible to ensure that, unfortunately, these persecutions. uh, started took place continued e foundation of this so-called psu

of the orthodox church of ukraine e. all his actions are aimed at supporting this structure and putting pressure on the primates of other local churches so that they recognize this schism. his statement, which he made just recently, when the leader of the raskolnikovs, the ukrainian mr. dumenko e, was on the lantern and the patriarch bartholomew declared that the kiev-pechersk lavra should belong to the schismatics. uh, seeing what is happening in the form of like uh, believers are driven out of the temples, like uh again hierarchs, uh, are summoned for interrogation. searches are carried out at their houses, seeing how people suffer as patriarchs, he considers all this to be right and legal, and this encourages and blesses more than that, if we remember how the patriarch justified his intervention in ukrainian church issues. he said that his actions were intended to heal the schism, because the situation at the time of the invasion of the patriarchate of constantinople into ukraine

was like this. that there were several ecclesiastical jurisdictions was the canonical and the orthodox church, which certainly is today there were at least two more schismatic groups opposing each other. and despite the fact that the russian church for decades , as long as this schism has existed , methodically and patiently took steps towards the healing of this schism, patriarch bartholomew decided to heal this sin. eh, well, figuratively speaking, a seriously ill person, and everything is fine with you, don’t worry and don’t pay attention, everything is fine. that's what healing it led to, it led to the fact that the suffering of people multiplied multiplied division among believers and, of course, his share of responsibility for what is happening. it is colossal, besides speaking about those who are involved in one way or another in this situation. well, let's go back to where we started our conversation, uh, i spoke at the un security council in order to draw the attention of the world community to this problem. today

, society is so concerned about the topic and human rights of a wide variety of rights, including those that the church is known to be critical of, because they are incompatible with christian way of life, but today in the majority. the world community quite calmly looks at what the state power of ukraine is doing with believers. despite the fact that the right to profess one's faith is a fundamental human right, the constitution of ukraine enshrined the principle of state non-interference in church life. and today, all this is being violated by the state in the most rude way. e interferes in the life of the church. and this is covered in silence patriarch kirill recently speaking at the eleventh christmas parliamentary readings in the state duma said that many of our compatriots who left the country are in need of spiritual help and edification, and noted that among the younger generation. for many years, imported values ​​were implanted.

well, i have a question how, in your opinion, these people who have left, can be helped and how in general, but the patriarch says one thing when speaking in the state duma, and the deputies who sit in the hall one after another every day they say that these people are not needed let into the country. they need to raise their income tax, if the money they receive in russia they need to seize the property. well, you understand that people follow all this news, being abroad, they are not very good. it's like inspiring to return to their homeland, and maybe half of them. uh, were in hesitation or in thought to return. well, after all, the statements of politicians on this topic. they are also very different and there are diametrically opposite points of view. but i would still like to comment on the words of his holiness the patriarch, about which you mentioned. i'm actually even personally, i'm very i understand well what the patriarch said, because uh-huh, in our past programs

, when we met, i said that i myself was a priest abroad and, for the most part, in rome, where i served and was the rector of the temple. e the majority. uh, the parishioners of our church were just those of our compatriots, and not only immigrants from russia, but from ukraine from other countries who came to italy to work, that people who, for various economic reasons, primarily wanted to find a job, but something to earn money for something. at this, of course, they consider themselves russians and speaking ukrainians. about the house here is the house. they meant, of course, their homeland. well, a person comes to an unfamiliar country in the same rome , but i don’t know where to look for a job, i don’t know and don’t understand what difficulties he will face there, he arrives in a completely alien environment, where everyone speaks a language he doesn’t know. every day i heard absolutely tragic stories of how people experienced this loneliness in this desert. that is , i am more than that, i can tell you frankly.

even when i myself went to italy and his holiness the patriarch sent me there to serve, i remember the first months. yes, i was very homesick for my homeland, it was really difficult for me alone. although i still lived in nu, as it were, in my own context, because the parishioners are the majority of this people with whom i could speak the same language. well, of course , this is the feeling of being in a foreign land, it appears when you realize that you have come for a week to eat, try pasta and pizza. and you will now live in this country, this is the country you are here nobody knows, you don't know nobody. and these tragedies of loneliness. in fact, very often it led to the fact that people in adulthood in our church were baptized because they consciously. they began to understand how much they need god, how much they need the church and became churched. they are there already in adulthood. and now speaking about our compatriots who left like this for various reasons. i must tell you that many of them come to our churches abroad today

. well, partly, maybe a few lost yes needing advice needing human comfort. they don't know where else to find this consolation. and, of course, naturally. so they reach out to the temple, they come to the priest and our priests try to support these people, try to help them spiritually, because this is the main task of the church. and, of course, this is what his holiness the patriarch had in mind when he uttered these words from the rostrum of the state duma, let's imagine that one of these people, let's say, men of a cut age, are watching this interview in our now they are abroad for one single reason. they do not want to return to become let's say travel restrictions or be mobilized or drafted. if suddenly they fall under e, then the age category, and on their own in ukraine, this is their right. the truth is we can't give them this righteousness choice. what advice would you give people. uh,

very difficult in matters relating to spiritual life. and as a priest, i can only talk about this. uh, very difficult. find some equation that would be equally suitable for solving all problems and, uh, problem priest. first of all, it helps a person spiritually, and these are the questions. and i know that many people with these questions come to the priest, they talk about them at confession on what happens at confession - this is a secret confession every priest, while talking with a parishioner. he, of course, can give them material and spiritual advice , but this always remains a secret, about which only god , the sovereign knows, the european union has already announced that on february 24 the tenth anniversary package of anti-russian sanctions will be released the head of the european commission, ursola vonderlein, announced this at a joint press conferences zelensky and how the life of the church will change. for example, if e will be tougher sanctions against representatives

of the russian orthodox church. and one more question. i'm interested because, uh, our church abroad carries out, but the usual such economic activity. yes, we have many entries. what great difficulties are already arising in connection with the sanctions, that is, what difficulties our church abroad faces every day. let me start from the end to answer this question about complexity, but the trouble began. as a matter of fact, already in the spring they are connected. they were not with the problems that you mentioned, but were connected with the fact that our church in many ways became a victim of that era of russophobic hysteria that unfolded in a number of countries. first of all , western europe, unfortunately, a number of our temples were subjected to vandalism, these manifestations of vandalism. eh, they had a different character, but mostly they wrote something offensive on the walls of the temple. somewhere there were some shares. we on a case by case basis, uh, enough we understand well who is behind this and in the main.

i must say that these are, well, some local residents, certainly not ours , believers and not immigrants, who came , let's say, could have some reason to accommodate their evil. here, including at the temples, these are local residents, who, figuratively speaking, if you take france’s yellow fats, it somehow seems to disappear, people have nothing special to do. they go after watching the news, they go to paint temples. eh, of course, a little. now logistics issues are more difficult to solve, related to the fact that there is no direct communication and in order for the priest, for example, to come to his homeland. many have already left their parents and relatives here . questions need to be addressed. now it's more complicated and much more expensive. and, of course, not everyone can now afford, uh, fly here. well, in general, we do not yet feel any serious restrictions in our activities, but i cannot exclude that this will not happen, and it is a little difficult for me to talk about it, because everything that is happening today is in this context of these sanctions. unfortunately, this doesn't

work. eh, it doesn't fit into the category of logic. e. well, i can give you an example. i was recently in rome. hmm , his holiness the patriarch sent me to an international conference held by the catholic church. and so the president of france macron came to this conference, and i served for several years in france, i was exarch of western europe and our cathedral is in paris and here i am listen to the presidents of france suddenly with surprise. eh, i heard from his lips words about orthodoxy. i i have never heard before that he somehow showed a personal interest in the orthodox church and he reads papers and mentioned that orthodoxy is being manipulated by the political leaders of russia and so he said this, huh? this literally ended his speech. and he already began to leave, and journalists in the hall ran up to me and said, that's why mr. macron said so. well, you know, he's still here. you come

to him. ask him why he said that, probably uh based his opinion on something. it was an interreligious conference. there were respected religious leaders with of the whole world to say such things. completely unfounded. yes, this is stupid, but nevertheless, he voices a certain stereotype, a certain paradigm, they voice it, as a given, it is completely incomprehensible. on what it is based it is impossible to argue with him. it's impossible to ask him. why do you think so? yes? here. uh, this manipulation is happening today in ukraine. because the ukrainian authorities are trying to make orthodoxy. eh, weapons. uh, in their hands, yes, which uh, they use their uh, for completely selfish purposes. i don't rule out that our church, unfortunately, can simply, because this is the russian orthodox church , it can be turned on. here is a list of what the enlightened, democratic european society is fighting with today, but it is difficult to do something about it here, it is difficult to argue with someone. yes, nam does not give such

an opportunity, so, uh, it is difficult to predict something, but, of course, i do not rule it out. well, besides, uh, uh, by the way, there is uh, such a disturbing example, about which i would also like to say. e. for example , the situation of our church in estonia where the metropolitan who heads the estonian church , he is a russian citizen, but as the head of the estonian church, he has a residence permit in estonia and has already been summoned several times. e, the relevant services of this country with the requirement that he made certain statements of a political nature, threatening him otherwise with the annulment of the residence permit and the decision of his ability to carry out his ministry in this country. this is a wake up call. well, referring to your recent overseas trips in december. you were in bulgaria and i want to understand what we have now, in general, our church has relations with bulgaria, because, for example, the little businessman reported earlier that in the spring of last year.

bulgaria carried out covert deliveries of soviet-style weapons from the soviet era to ukraine, thereby providing up to the third need of its armed forces, and this information was confirmed by the former examples of bulgaria, the head of the ukrainian foreign ministry paid for deliveries from great britain to the united states ah, well, well, it’s clear, yes, we need to share flies and cutlets. well, anyway. uh, what kind of relations do we have with bulgaria now. what impression do you have after this trip, it is fundamentally important here to share flies from cutlets, and yet it is important to understand what is, and those persons who today officially represent bulgaria are the country's leadership. there are people there are residents of this country, and these are two completely different realities, but speaking of my trip. i came to bulgaria because in the center of sofia there is a wonderful russian church, russian compound, which celebrated its anniversary this year. and for this anniversary. in fact, i arrived. i served in this russian church together with two bulgarian

bishops. and during this service. i went to the temple, as it should be with the evil of the bells, and i was met by many parishioners who had gathered for the service. and here during the service. i suddenly heard already somewhere in the middle of the service some sounds of sirens buzzing. on the street, and one of the altar servers came back from the street and said that there was a picket of about 20 people who unfurled ukrainian flags , anti-russian slogans, they blocked, uh, the entrance to the temple, and. eh, here. as a matter of fact, there they stand for us, to be honest, didn't bother much. we finished the service, and the next item on our program was a visit to the alexander nevsky cathedral. i suggested that the bishops, who together with me served the clergy, go out and go to the cathedral. on foot without fear of anyone, because, well, it was impossible to drive by car, but i didn’t want these people to think that we were somehow cowardly leaving them by car. and when we left we saw only the backs of these people who were already leaving, they stood for exactly 2 hours. apparently they have some kind of billing, there

was a special hourly rate. so we didn’t see them anymore, but when we were in cassocks, walking along the streets of sofia , local residents came up to us and asked where you came from. we said that we are from russia, people approached the blessing and said very kind words. in the evening of the same day, i, in the hotel, sat at dinner, finished watching tv, and were at a hearing in parliament. where the issue of my arrival was discussed , they talked about what special service let me through the border. and what to call them to responsibility, because it means that i pose a certain threat to the security of bulgaria, and all these people who were sitting next to the bulgarians. they see me on tv, laughed, many came up, then they said listen, well, don't pay attention. we love you. we we love russia we are so glad that you have come, that you are not afraid of anyone here, please know that we are with you and in fact, it was very important to hear, because the next day i went to make a mistake for the first time in my life

i was in this place. eh, saw this temple which was built where our compatriots, our russian people, gave their lives for the freedom and independence of bulgaria, which liberated this country. and, of course, to know that the feat of our soldiers is still kept in the people's memory. this is very important, and unfortunately, the government is obviously working out a task aimed at dividing these fraternal friendly ties that existed and church relations. after all, they are one of the very important bridges that provide this connection. i am deeply convinced that this is the official strategy pursued by the government. it is clear that this is all orchestrated. yes, all this is also done in carbon copy, but for now, thank god , these ties are preserved at such a people's human level. well, then, i will first formulate the matter of external church relations by taking over as chairman of yours. what kind of trips abroad were given to you with difficulty,

where all the trips that i undertook during these same 8 months were uncomfortable. they were very helpful. e. of course, er, each of them had its own specificity, because i have been to both europe and the middle east. well, maybe, especially i would like to note and here is the last trip from which i have just returned. i was in syria for the first time in my life. and, of course, it was very painful and uh, well, it's really hard to look at a country that still uh keeps such bright and gaping wounds of war - destroyed cities lying in ruins. i have never seen anything like this never and nowhere quite obvious in connection with this standard of living of people, and so we spent several days during this trip with by the position of patriarch of antioch with

the head of the church of antioch, the church of the martyr, in fact, today christians are persecuted, unfortunately in this region and become targets of terrorists. and so we visited two cities in the suburbs of damascus, where they illuminated two churches restored with the help of the russian orthodox church. and you have no idea how touching it was to see. the city is in ruins. and you can count entire buildings on your fingers and the first thing that the locals wanted to restore when life returned when these cities were liberated from terrorists. these temples are such a believing people who love god, who understand the role and place of faith in their lives. that's all that could be restored. in fact, some other buildings are infrastructure objects. people wanted to restore the temple, which impressed me especially on the same street , a temple and a mosque are being restored for lighting and temples, and in one and the other case , the leaders of the local muslim

communities came, and we were all together, we were all together. uh, we talked. there was no misunderstanding between us there, something else. yes, i was actually so impressed by it that until now i tell you about it myself, it gives me goosebumps, this trip made a tremendous impression on me. and i in many ways here are some things even for myself. maybe i rediscovered the values ​​of their things , which somehow they seem to be always there, always with you, when you see how sometimes these things acquire another dimension in other conditions. you start thinking about how should we appreciate what we have thank you very much. vladyka for this interview and come visit us often thank you feel free to ask putin's sharp reversal what

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