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specifically, this year, within the framework of this program, the latest methods for diagnosing genetic diseases will be obtained, which will go for certification already to the ministry of health or the program of synchrotron research under the guidance of colleagues from the kurchatov institute. in general, we have few countries of such a level in the world that can carry out such projects, and here a network of unique mega-sans class installations is being created this year, we are starting to install skiff equipment. uh, the siberian ring source of photons and will begin already first research plan. right this year. i visited this construction site twice together with the governor of the novosibirsk region and the scale is really impressive or the fntp for the development of agriculture. this is generally our food security. uh, 23 years old. as part of it, new varieties of potatoes will be created, and they are simply created, they are in demand from agribusiness. and this has already been approved,
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the ministry of agriculture is doing a great job with the signed two-year license agreements, and respectfully, vladimir vladimirovich, you have not instructed the government approve three so-called wibgs. this is the most important innovative project of state importance. one of them is climate approved and the other two are for response to infectious diseases. transition to low-carbon energy. they are in high readiness this year. we will also approve them and, er, on your instructions, we will expand them. e, this spectrum is another tool for the integrated scientific and technical programs of the cstp, and the most important tool for introducing scientific developments into the real sector of the economy. it's just about the results. which you said in your speech. here , it is important to have a qualified customer who is ready to take responsibility, and for the production and entry of the product to the market on the basis of scientific development, and such programs are already operating. and
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their demand is confirmed by the fact that the contribution to the business is more than twice as high as the budget co-financing from troitsa a is their goal. uh, it's import substitution. e, the most necessary e directions, with spectrum the widest production code, and the domestic basis for infant formula before launching the petrochemical class. this year, by the way, the government will simplify the procedure for launching such programs to the utmost, and it will become very important for them to ensure that science meets the needs of regional economies. uh, and here one of the best examples is the tool. ah, notsev is a world-class scientific and educational center, which, on your instructions, has been created for the 15th time in our country. they cover 36 regions. some emotions. several regions are included and their activities are oriented as once on the regional
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linkage development programs, about which you mentioned emotions , more than 170 technological projects are being implemented, and 145 universities and 140 scientific organizations are participating in it. well, what is important, more than 300 technology companies leaders from these regions and the results of their work are annually presented in sirius at the congress of young scientists, where regular participants. you will see and feel the results. i will give some examples, for example, belgorod nods literally on friday. we visited him there, and nikolaevich does great work parks with patrushev with them launched the production of vegetable meat for 8.000 tons and with the prospect of treatment for 40.000 tons or notes of the south of russia this year will already be released into the field. uh, there is the first unmanned tractor, a or a development of the nizhny novgorod nose. this is the skeleton , uh, which is already being used in the rehabilitation
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of people after a stroke in very specific projects. you mentioned my prank. we have a new tool to support the science of this rmf russian science foundation, which can now finance not only fundamental, but also applied research such important strategic areas for us as microelectronics, medicine , agriculture, new energy, in this , vladimir vladimirovich, you mentioned your offensive and personnel, and here you wanted to report that by the decision of the prime minister. mikhail vladimirovich mishustin, the government allocated 30,000 additional budget places for master's programs, but it is very important here that they relate to precisely those specialties that our economy needs most in the current conditions. these are engineers. and, by the way, mathematics, chemists, genetics for support for engineering education. uh tools. i would like to say, e ordinary
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met this advanced engineer. schools when high-tech companies a-a we attended one of these schools. in veliky novgorod they are just developing the field of electronics with systems. there communication of artificial intelligence, which shows that very high interest. uh, from the business side, they participate in the educational process and are directly interested. e as training, e, specialists and subsequent employment, dear vladimir vladimirovich, on your instruction, the preparation of a managerial personnel reserve in the field of science of higher education is underway. and we use platforming. this is russia's side of opportunities, and by analogy with the project, the leaders of russia have already selected such activity ; six of them have already been appointed rectors of federal universities and heads of scientific organizations. and vladimirovich
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, we pay great attention, of course, to the integration of new regions in the scientific and educational space of our country and our forty state program. seventh is the source. e, support and restore the scientific educational infrastructure of these entities. and it works well. here are the ear and scientific organizations of 29 universities and we use the truly unique capabilities of our e new e subjects for innovative development. this also applies to their economies, if only, of course, agricultural technologies. in general, what is historical. uh was developed and beyond the universities of the new subjects. we have secured 47 leading universities e. they, like curators, help to build and train there. process and conduct scientific research in accordance with our standards and russia , i want to say more has grown, uh, 100.000.
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students, this is a very serious potential . vladimir vladimirovich, we do not have a council for science on holidays very often, but the presidium of your science and education. we are the ones with whom we promptly resolve issues. it meets regularly and thanks to dmitry anatolyevich for supporting initiatives. uh, which government commission. ours brings to the presidium. this made it possible in a short time. eh, a lot of questions to solve and enrollment targets for priority destinations and adjust. uh, scientific topics for import substitution. just last year, we completed this reversal of all import substitution tasks, and launched a new federal project on scientific instrumentation and will soon be submitted to the commission, and will present to the presidium a list of key topics for the privatization of scientific projects, of course, in accordance. changes
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in the strategy for scientific and technological development, which you said and the solution of these tasks will require e from the government and new tools. uh, scientific performance evaluations. that said, just about the examination. and today we have scientific expertise. really. it so happened historically that they only answer the question of whether the scientific work was done or not, but the relevance of the result obtained. well, in fact, the economy itself is not yet taken into account, and in this regard, the government of a has submitted a bill to the duma that enshrines the concept of scientific and technical expertise, and in accordance with which the russian academy of sciences, e, will become the operator national corps of experts, which will unite all expert organizations in the country and will, er, be drawn up on a cross-cutting basis. e, the rating of experts will be provided and
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anonymity and transparency. antiobjectivity and most importantly, arbitration and feedback, because the key goal is to ensure that our scientific results are in demand. everyone will simply like them and recognize everything as good results. it's kind of like the hot potato principle, when you have to pass development on to in accordance with the technological level of readiness. they put it on the shelf. there, in the form of an article of some kind, there is also a very, uh, important issue that i would like to touch on. uh, dear vladimirovich, we have, and now in russia more than uh, four two tenths of a thousand scientific organizations, and which, at the expense of the federal budget, implements about 13,000 scientific topics. that is, we have a huge number of fractional topics, and a scientific organization. they formulate a task for themselves and we offer where, of course, it is justified to combine science. organizations in
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large consortia so that each such consortium has one. e, leading scientific organization, the head of which is personally responsible for the result of this cooperation. and but this potato, which had not cooled down , was transferred hot to the national economy, that is, in other words, no matter how the developments ended up on the shelf and in front of such consorts. we are just these practical tasks. we will put in order to focus around them bringing the funds that are now grouped into the forty-seventh state program. here is an example of the formation of such, uh, structures around a megaproject, just uh, is the already launched federal scientific and technical program of the cnp, which i spoke about at the world level, so i ask you to support the approach to amalgamate scientific organizations to form such ends. when vladimir vladimirovich i recently reported to you about the achievement of the target indicator
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of the national goal of e-e development, when russia in terms of the volume of scientific research and development. uh, now ranked ninth in the world, as in in general, you ordered, and despite the sanctions , unprecedented pressure on our science. we see that it is in demand in the world. our articles continue to be published in international journals. but then you remember paid attention. e that metrics calculations indicators. there were places for russian universities in international rankings, the number of articles in international scientific databases, or there were international patents . the number of these, of course, is important, but now the country needs specific results of scientific projects. they are accompaniments of processes a and b if your government agrees, changes are specified in 2004-74, which applies to the national development goal , which will precisely allow e, measure e, objectively measure the achievement of our science on the way to moving towards technological
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sovereignty to independence and improve the quality of life of our people. uh, there is a departure from critical dependence on some kind of technology. now, if you support such a proposal, the report has finished everything. thank you thank you very much, please, gennadievich , i beg you. dear vladimir vladimirovich dmitry nikolaevich chernyshenko noted in his report that approximately 43% of all budget funds allocated to science go to fulfill tasks. these are very large sums. i would like to note that on our mind. they are not used effectively enough. why is this happening? forming the formation of the state task today , the director of scientific institutes, the rector of universities, when communicating with
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the ministries, roughly understands. what budget will be allocated to them, based on the budget, based on the rubricator of the program fundamental research. they themselves form the theme of the work. at the same time, he tries to choose topics that are already 80-70% dug out by the ministry and it sends us to the academy for examination. the victory lies in the fact that what question is this and the answer, that is, it asks for the compliance of these works from the point of view of scientificity with the presence of the topic of the rubricator and publication activity, therefore, in ninety-nine cases we give a positive conclusion, but if the question was different, a maybe there are more important work. maybe change the parameters of this task to higher ones, then the answer would be completely different. for example, we
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have a scientific council for comprehensive energy development programs. it recently addressed a very important and serious issue for the country related to the creation of a generating turbine with a capacity of more than 350 mw and a revolutionary indicator for e-efficiency up to 62%. to implement this important project for the country, it is necessary to set up a whole series of fundamental and research studies, which we could immediately turn on the state task. instead of looking for additional funding, we therefore propose the following algorithm. without changing the terms, change the order of formation. that is, a proposal for their work. the institutes should first send the thematic department to us at the academy of sciences, where we will discuss together with the institutes the department that owns the most relevant information on their subject and
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accumulates the proposal of scientific councils of various departments and scientific organizations on the demand for scientific results, and then the department in the process of interaction with the institute complements their proposal with new topics, adjusts the parameters of the work, and such an already agreed position is transferred to the ministry for approval of the state task, thereby we would solve several problems at once. first, we would have a new criterion for the relevance of scientific results, which dmitry nikolayevich spoke about, which would increase the effectiveness of traces, the second we would restore higher parameters for the performance of work. most importantly, we would use public resources. i ask you, vladimir vladimirovich, to support our proposal to change the order of formation. i would like
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to say a few more words about the organization of the examination. today , a lot of expert councils work under various ministries and departments, which often thematically duplicate each other. this decay of human financial resources reduces the quality of expertise. the participation of the same experts in several councils at once takes a lot of working time. for example, in our academy a scientific council has been working for a long time on quantum technologies, which i lead, and we are conducting an examination of the implementation of quantum technology roadmaps, and now min digit is creating its own expert council for the examination of the same quantum technology roadmaps. we invite me to enter there chief expert according to the federal law of the russian academy of sciences one of
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the main functions of the academy is expert, this function constantly we have all the mechanisms and procedures for conducting a high-quality independent objective examination. we have been working for more than five thousand years, which more than 35,000 examinations are carried out annually. at the request of the federal and regional ministries, i would like to separately note that we do not claim monopolization in the field of expertise, but we want to streamline it, excluding, among other things, the case when the work is continuously submitted by the authors to various expert councils until it receives the positive approval they need. conclusions. i ask you, vladimir vladimirovich, to also support our proposal to optimize the existing expert councils . this will also contribute to the formation of a unified scientific and technological landscape of the country in
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this regard. i would like to say that together with michal kovalchk we have done a lot of work and now i am prepared for the government decree, according to which the kurchatov institute will be under the scientific and methodological guidance of the russian academy of sciences. this is a very important step in the consolidation of the entire scientific community to solve the key tasks of real states. thank you. we have an offer. i discussed it, there is dmitry nikolaevich and discussed it with andrey sancho, we just have to now the government to jointly revise the expert councils that exist and determine,
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uh, so that there is no duplication where this is happening today. this is the first, and the second, as it were, to conduct more, but let's say a certain examination. here we have experts, whom we find 5.000. they all go through such a careful discussion at the bureau office, where we consider each candidate here. i would also like to believe that we should also conduct a small audit of those experts who are in other exports. uh huh ok understood. thank you please. i respect you, vladimir vladimirovich colleagues, we are talking about the need to ensure technological sovereignty and implement environmental breakthroughs. this is possible only if we actually create a unified scientific and ecological
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space. the key tool for the formation of such a space is a large-scale project of a scientific and technical program of proportional significance, in fact. this is the most important innovative project and the so-called type of city. and federal the technical programs that were mentioned today for the implementation of such projects require the formation of a unified system, their scientific methodological expert support, these functions correspond to the goals and general principles of scientific management of large projects. i must say that the institution of scientific leadership arose and convincingly confirmed its state of all efficiency in the course of shaping the implementation of the main soviet strategic projects. first of all, this is an atomic space project , a program for creating a microbiological industry and many other soviet times in the soviet union , the scientific supervisor of a particular project or direction
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was always appointed by a direct decree of a personal decree of the government of the ussr. people are well known. it seems to me that, based on the successful experience of the soviet union in the russian federation , the scientific leadership was recreated by vladimir vladimirovich in 2007, when the presidential nanoinitiative announced by you was being implemented. the country's initiatives are not the development of the nanoindustry. i have to say that at that stage it is already 15 years ago. this made it possible to solve the problem of forming an e-national technological network for us, which still works effectively today and is a very convenient example. here is further the parent scientific organization has been determined already at the present stage within the framework of two main federal scientific and technical programs. this is a genetics program and a program to create for the development of the infrastructure of the synchrotron for neutron research. also,
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currently. so i want to return to what he said to gennady. that is , it seems to me that it is very important that we agreed, the kurchatov institutes of the russian academy of sciences, as the two largest systems that form the organizations of the country's technological scientific and technological complex. we agreed and took the initiative to restore the scientific and methodological guidance from the academy of sciences, and as a pilot project specifically by the kurchatsk institute, like this and was the soviet era. the academy of sciences is the main scientific organization of the country, which carried out the scientific management of the institutes with specific and scientific methodological guidance. here we came up with this proposal, we were supported by the minister. uh , the presidential administration and the view that, in the person of dmitry nikolaevich lyshenko , a corresponding government decree was prepared, which is now well and passed and naturally, so to speak, the formal way for me to introduce myself. this is very important for the restoration and formation of a unified scientific and technological space of the country.
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this means that today we have developed and developed a fairly successful practice that can be reproduced by the most important strategic initiatives in the science of technical communications. but now i would like to say that , nevertheless, scientific leadership as an institution in the legal field is undefined. and as a result, there is no single methodology, tools. scientific de-leadership of a unified requirement for a supervisor of intellectualization of scientific leadership. in in the current conditions, it is extremely relevant, in fact , taking into account the accumulated experience, it seems necessary to legislate the institution of scientific leadership, but today the name is the leading scientific organization, and it seems to me that if you support it is extremely important. eh, so to speak, to institutionalize the formalization of the institution of scientific leadership and the role of the scientific leader of the base for this, almost everything is ready. this means that another very important key condition for the successful implementation
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of the largest e, projects and programs in scientific and technological sphere. this is the development of efficient use of research infrastructure. in recent years, thanks to your support and the active position of the government, the state duma of the federation council in this parallel adopted a number of all inherent know the most important state decisions in the first place. these are the federal law on biosafety and amendments to the federal law on state regulation in the field of genetic engineering. and in addition, adopted federal laws of the federation or on fact, but at the same time, there are problems that i would like to draw attention to in today's conditions, when ensuring biosafety becomes the main thing. we prioritize the key issue on today's agenda. i wanted to draw attention to the problem of biological collections, er, which are the basic element for biogenetic estolian development and the basis of our biosecurity. at the same time, just as in
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the case of scientific management, the very concept of a collection does not have the right to determine the status, that is, in fact, here we have a huge number of collections most of them are unique, but in fact because the status is undefined . they do not stand on the balance sheet, people do not know what they contain and protect, therefore the first most important stage on the way to the conservation and development of biological collections is the creation of national centers of genetic resources based on the largest rings. you , vladimir vladimirovich, have already made a decision to establish the first such center. this is the national center for plant genetic resources on the basis of the world known world, which was founded by nikolai ivanovich vavilov so far, there is no awesome direction of systematic work. in this regard, i would like to propose the creation of several more national bioresource centers in the following direction. the first is a bioresource center for farm animals and their wild relatives on the basis
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of the federal research center for animal husbandry institute named after academician, then the creation of a bioresource center for microorganisms includes industrial microorganisms and yeasts on the basis of the percha institute and a separate one. i would like to draw more attention to one direction, of course, requiring the systematization of work with collection material. this is viticulture. today we have unique collections of autochthonous grape varieties. this is the basis of the renaissance and the development of russian winemaking. and here, vladimir andreevich, we are conducting large-scale work together with institutions that hold such collections within the limits that were created in your opinion. in a direct order, we can say that the unified bioresource center for viticulture, which will bury when we increase propagating these collections will help preserve the unique basis for the development of this industry, however, your decision to create such resource centers, and hmm finally, i would like
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to draw your attention, developing the logic of conversations about bioresource collections, to say this is what the first development of these collections means, their effective use directly depends from the formation of a national database of genetic information. and i would like to report to you that the work on creating such a base is progressing successfully. now that in force signed you vladimir vladimirovich law base received the official status of the work preservation of the accumulation and processing of genetic information. acquire a systemic common national character, in fact, from a kind of mega-project of our patriotic science. an absolutely essential state-of-the-art scientific infrastructure is important, both in terms of ensuring biosecurity and in terms of addressing various issues in sectors of the economy in the social sphere, for example, agriculture. we are closely cooperating today in this area.
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ministry of agriculture. so you paid attention today to the increase in the effectiveness of our science and the achievement of concrete significant results. i will take it upon myself to say boldly that the creation of a national database of genetic information is in full measure a significant result for the country, but it is only important that these projects receive funding and support in the first place within the framework of the state psychological development program. this is extremely important and the last aspect is another directly related to the problem. security. you know, today, food products or drug supply with modern domestic drugs are of decisive importance for biosafety, but the organization of effective pre-clinical studies is a living thing for the development of our own domestic drug base, but in turn , the basis for the clinic is again a collection of biological models, primarily primates we have many different models, but i wanted to focus on primates, because it is
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unique these collections play the same role, like plants in any other area, but the difference is that they are much harder to maintain and use effectively. well, that is a much more complex system, so we propose e. that's how yes, and i wanted to note that these collections, like those that i have already mentioned, still do not have a clearly defined legal status , it seems necessary to take into account the extreme importance of the problem as a pilot project to create national centers for higher biological models on the basis, the only one aside collections of primates that are at several institutes on our south site. the report is finished uh-huh thank you very much, and what is missing in the institutionalization of scientific leadership, what is proposed? i have very scientific guidance. here it is written
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that the parent organization is in the program of the mechanism. it's the same as with the examination mechanism is not spelled out in the legal you have a lot of scholarships. here, i'll just give you a simple example. that's when it was created about such a simple one, but there can be a lot of them, but here he was the first to start. she uh, the first of our k3 boat, yes, then a supervisor was appointed. anatol petrovich alexander personal further was the designer of the boat before the year and the designers charged, and without the contracts of the full and scientific supervisor , i can’t make a single decision on the movement of funds, not on the official decision. and today it is a nominal thing. e in which , as it were, a scientific leader, or in fact, well, as it were, looks at it from a distance, or does what he is told to do, so to speak. those who distribute the money, therefore, we must speak so that the status in soviet times is clearly spelled out and it is clear.

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