uh, own developments that hmm are in demand right today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow. this is obviously understandable. i think that it is clear to everyone but on but in order to ensure their logical independence, but fundamental research. we are certainly not going to do basic research. no one is going to close or send them. uh, how to leave them in second place is not at all, and this will not happen at all, but here's what was proposed by colleagues from the point of view of optimizing work from the point of view. uh, working out fundamental decisions and set priorities. this is very important for both fundamental and applied research, and here it is important for us not to miss, because if we are talking about the need to concentrate resources in the most important areas, then the scientific community determines these important areas. it is important not to miss here, a correctly

set goal, as you know, is 50% success. here, therefore, we will work in this vein. yes, please colleagues, who would like more, well, that's what you wanted me to. e, alexander vitalievich very much i would like to see the additional powers given to the funds so that they can effectively use everything. everything needs to be quickly launched work with specific companies that have certain responsibilities and to provide appropriate funding and to provide platforms for carrying out relevant work with food and so on and so on and so on. okay, here's what you need. uh, i'll ask her about it, and to act so energetically, please, colleagues. who would like that? i ask you to? raise your hand, please, yes, tatyana, i beg

you. thank you vladimir vladimirovich good afternoon, i wanted to say a few words on the part that is connected with medical science and, uh, briefly refer to what was said from colleagues, and the first thing i would like to say is what was said from the president of the russian academy of sciences regarding the examination of state assignments and what was then continued in the discussion, but i need to forget that we have such an institution in our legislation as a program of fundamental research. this the program is developed by the russian academy of sciences and is the basis for the formation of state assignments for scientific institutions. such a program of fundamental research up to the thirtieth year was approved in 2021 . from this it should be understood that the priorities in this program have already been determined and the state tasks

have been formed. based on these priorities, if we want to subject the program of fundamental research to a second or secondary examination, then we must admit that the program of fundamental research was not prioritized. this is the first thing i wanted to say as a remark and the second. after all, the state task is the basis for the existence of any budgetary institution, and on october 1 of the year preceding the new financial e, the budget is submitted and in fact it is accepted and brought to the limits by the ministry of finance, and if at the moment. we will be additionally engaged in the examination of the formation of the state task. we will stop all activities of budgetary institutions of science. why do i say this means the first or not so composed

a program of fundamental research, or then an examination of state assignments of draft government assignments should be carried out at least a year before the formation of a draft budget, so as not to stop the vital activity of institutions. this is the first, second thing, as far as bioresource collections are concerned, this is not quite the case, but the fact is that in accordance with the law on biological safety. we have given a definition of bioresource collections, but pathological microorganisms and viruses and in accordance with the law on biological security. we have adopted relevant decisions to the governments and 14 such bioresource collections have been approved, in addition. in accordance with this national priority, such as biological safety and the biosafety strategy that you approved by your decree, we are implementing two projects; we are implementing a state program for chemical and

biological safety in the russian federation and, accordingly, an economic initiative to protect health. and so i just want to say that in as part of this work, we have already created 46 reference centers for major biological threats under the biological safety program, eight reference centers were created at the end of 22 years. that is, we have covered with these reference centers and, accordingly , studies of all biological threats that are currently named in the law on biological safety. second, we uh, provided the equipment and uh, function. 48 sequencing centers for diagnosing infectious diseases and 153 pcr centers to ensure accessibility laboratory diagnostics, also within the same work. we have created a national

electronic catalog of microorganisms, which includes 12,000 collection strains of microorganisms. this is a serious work that has been carried out now. and as for other bioresource collections that are not associated with dangerous microorganisms and viruses, this topic was discussed with andrei aleksandrovich and i at the epogenetics council. this topic requires serious legislative regulation and changes in a large number of laws. it is lifting, but without the settlement of this issue in the relevant sectors it will be impossible. to put on some normative fixings of this kind of bioresusive collections, but this definitely needs to be done, and mikhail valentinovich is absolutely right here and one more point that i wanted to dwell on, and also briefly, but new in

our work. but i think it's very important. we m-m react, of course, to what we all always talk about and to what you said, this is the integration of the results of fundamental research into our practical application. and not so long ago. uh, the project was developed. uh, it is developed under the auspices of the ministry of health and the government is called medical science for man and within the framework of this project. we carry out uh, foundation applied research aimed at introducing a system of medical care of various studies. and here. i want to talk about biomedical cell products and tissue engineering products. it became possible. after the federal law on medical cellular

products. he allowed us to do enough and a backlog that is comparable to other foreign countries. and what we have now noted this year, my selected eight cellular products that went to the clinic and allow you to restore working capacity and reduce illness. of bones with the consequences of a stroke , spinal cord injuries, burns and trophic ulcers within the framework of the project, we are planning to conduct clinical studies in the twenty-second year on the basis of the moscow state university named after lomonosov state research center for surgery named after the petrovsky institute named after koltsov and a number of other institutes, in order to accelerate the implementation, we have even made amendments to this law on the project, in order to register these products as soon as possible this year, we plan to create a new test system for assessing the safety of biomedical cellular products. and as i

already said to reduce the implementation time, what will it give this introduction to practical health care, and will allow us to provide assistance to a million of our citizens, and since these backlogs have quite serious developments. we believe that already in the twenty-third year we will have the first results, and also these institutions that i mentioned, they take upon themselves the training of medical workers and the replication of new methods of treatment in order to introduce them into practical healthcare, the project funds are provided, and here don't need any extra cost. and and we expect that this will give its result. in addition, we have 11 original medicinal products in our work since last year. drugs, including those aimed at oncological diseases and diseases of the cardiovascular system, and we plan

to complete these clinical trials this year. this is for information. but i think that this is a serious direction, which will give us a certain breakthrough. and you, health care thank you thank you for a great decision in principle, including in the area that we are now considering, of course, we are passing through parliament through the state duma in this regard, sergey wanted to ask vladimirovich, does he have any thoughts and suggestions, please, okay? chairman of the state duma committees on science and higher education respected vladimir vladimirovich state duma committee on education has a draft law related to optical technologies. we are now holding

consultations with the departments concerned. and hopefully soon. we will go to the first reading. next, the premium bill, as regards issues related to scientific and educational centers, we are also working on this bill. it's very important here to determine the directions in which they would exist, here are complex issues related to the organizational and legal form of a simple comrade, or here some new forms must be sought, that is, we see this work here. ok, thank you. i have already said that in order to achieve the practical desired result, the desired structure of the result. we need to combine efforts and science education in the administrative bodies, including at the regional level e in

the pauline state e, council. we have created an appropriate commission. i would like give the floor to his herbalist andrey alexandrovich, please, the governor of the novosibirsk region. thank you dear colleagues. eh, the proposal is probably the only one i voiced it not for the first time. uh, in the current guys of the whole strategy. er, non-realization of the line, there are activities to develop a model for managing territories with a high concentration of science and innovation, which is very important. so that when the strategy e is updated, this direction e is not lost, maybe even e, acquires additional significance. here in the early years of implementation, uh, strategies, current. uh, well, probably there were only a few such systemic, uh, programs for the development of such territories. well, perhaps i remember,

novosibirsk, omsk, skolkovo, and today , about two dozen such programs have already been prepared. uh, but it's most often a bottom-up initiative by municipalities and, uh, regions. well, or here, as an example of the new sarov, the big sarov initiative of rosatom, of course, it is very important that similar programs from the state level to similar territories. eh, it was preserved and even strengthened. e attention. uh, because after all it is not a local value, not even a regional value. it is generally state. naya value and, of course, here is an updated version of the strategy that needs to be kept worthy of attention. thank you okay, so colleagues, please, if anyone else would like to, uh, say something, i ask you for systems biology medicine, dear vladimirovich, i would like

your attention, you and our colleagues, uh, to the issues of project planning, in in particular, of course, medicine, biomedicine and infectious processes are closer to me. here is the gdz project is currently under review at the final stage. the fact is that in addition to traditional e, thanks to the development of a systemic system of physical biology. unfortunately, new pathogens are emerging and it is no secret that there are predictions that the epidemic is a species that has taught us a lot. this is not the latest epidemic. if we don't foresee. eh, some rather global processes of synchronizing different stages, starting here to carry out basic research have developed and develop fast ones. uh, means technology to determine what is needed do either vaccine preparations or passive immunization and we will not finish it. and in our execution of such projects, the discipline between the sections, as they used to say, that is, from development to transfer. this is for some kind

of pilot production and then scaling, then we simply will not have time. eh, respond quickly and adequately, and it seems to me that while observing all the norms and e laws, it is necessary to carefully approach these issues in a new way, they are key. that is, as a fundamental development. in the end will be at a large industrial enterprise , it is no secret that the developers who sit in the laboratories, and i belong to this number. they do not always represent the impossibility of industry, the impossibility of those technological modes that follow the victory report that some technology has been created. this is the first. second, there is no comprehensive training for such specialists who are able to quickly perceive culture. developers of the laboratory and give it to production, and finally, the last thing we have to do in this case when planning such projects, understand that this is not only an achievement in quick diagnostics or in quick ones. and that means some

means, but it is also, uh, the development of new technologies, which, as i said, in the beginning will allow us to fight infectious agents of an unknown nature. the fact is that covid, despite the fact that he forces us all. well, its closest relative, studied for 20 years. you can imagine when this kind of story will happen for us for us. yes, quite unexpectedly, and we we will not understand what we are dealing with here, necessary. in fact, a very large fundamental effort. and of course, uh, which do not end only with an article, as colleagues said, who then move on to practical implementation. it seems to me that the planning of such projects. it should be related not to what has been achieved, but taking into account the realities in which we live today and in what realities we will live in the near future thank you thank you please again. yes yes. elena shmeleva, sirius e federal territory,

dear vladimir vladimirovich may i please dear colleagues, today we are talking in one way or another about the effectiveness of achieving scientific and technological goals, and yet. i want to come back again. now to the question of conducting a qualitative examination, which will assess the impact of the results on the security of russia on the quality of the inhabitants and each of us, as well as assess the achievability of these results themselves. and of course, i would like to propose in development of what gennady has said so many more who are speaking today. no, be sure to lay down both regulatory e-e requirements , in addition to representatives of the russian academy of sciences and development institutions, be sure to involve industry experts and e-e, specialists from ministries, e-e and high-tech companies, both public and private, in order to comprehensively assess both market needs and characteristics and technologies that will define the world. and so that this approach to

scientific and technological expertise becomes such a universal standard, he proposes, and also to fix e in government acts that establish the principles for conducting an examination, which establish the criteria and mechanisms for such an examination, and in continuation. and also i would suggest that we all anchor this in our uh strategies. well, for example, uh, sirius university, as part of the implementation of the most important innovative project of national importance in medicine, will bring together specialists from leading medical and pharmaceutical companies and industry institutes. in this case, the ministry of industry and trade of rospotrebnadzor, in order to develop together with them what we call unified technological competition, who is the contour of a single contour to bring the results of the developments of our scientists in line with the requirements and technological capabilities of russian companies, this work is very important to do in this regard. here is what mikhail valentinovich proposed for the preclinical center based on the research institute of primatology e, will become

an effective element of this system, where specialists will be engaged in both standardization and scaling of production technologies for the most popular e- classes of biotechnological medicinal products. funds. uh, then industry experts will become key players in pharmaceutical development, product development for clinical trials, and acceptance of developed imports, grinding materials , and equipment. and this, of course, all together. and it will facilitate the transfer of developments to production and prompt response, which many colleagues spoke about. it is the emergence of new infectious threats, and will also increase the overall efficiency of investments in science. and, of course, it is these experts who should conduct the examination of educational programs, it is these experts who should be members of independent attestation commissions. uh, they have to validate the global ones.

compliance of the competence of graduates with our requirements with the requirements of society and employers and thus the development of new technologies is directly related to the development of human resources and the increase in talents for innovative scientific and technological activities, therefore we plan to create them as a scaling center for transfers. technology will also become an educational and production training complex personnel for the pharmaceutical industry, uh, the key role that will be played by industry experts, and in the case of vladimir vladimirovich of your approval of such approaches and the support of the government of the russian federation, sirius, together with partners , is ready to start creating this model right now in the first quarter. eh, here is the general work and i will also give an example of the same principle. e work with experts was laid down by us in the design of the international center in the field of ecology and climate change issues that you entrusted us with create in may last year research in this area. eh, more and more relevant today. in view of those extreme natural manifestations, including those on our

black sea coast, and when developing the concept of such a center, we took into account all domestic and advanced research. e, in the field of ecology and climate, and also determined the conditions and possibilities for testing on the federal territory. this could also be included in the list. uh, requirements for expertise. and uh, that's why we think that such a center could become a single expert-analytical a platform for another major innovation project, namely the climate change project. thank you very much for the word. oh please, thank you very much. so please, who else is st. petersburg? come on, please, so thank you from leningrad st. petersburg. there are five of us here. we exchanged impressions. uh, the following suggestions definitely. we support. uh, uh, proposals to create a unified scientific space to improve efficiency. competitions, all the more it needs to be done under conditions of unlawful restrictions

external sanctions. what do we offer? uh, mikhail valentinovich is talking about. e the status of scientific supervisor. actually, probably the most. the main thing is to understand what rights, powers and functionality this supervisor has. uh, we propose to take advantage of the potential of st . already or beg or plead. uh, approve these rules, but for now, sitting nearby, colleagues are talking about the powers of the chief designers, who are not scientifically round parents, but the chief designers of the general designers, uh. and today's status of these general designers. in general, it needs to be supplemented and, probably

, to some extent, coordination, because the presence of a scientific component in the presence of general designers of specific enterprises and institutions, as colleagues say, and we have reason to believe in this, but missing the second sentence is what mikhail valentinchy said, what he said. uh, gennady yakovlevich concerns expertise. e, there are no legislative requirements for examinations. uh, what is called expertise today? and how it is carried out in different organizations up to the fact that, for example, st. petersburg university gives more than 2,000 examinations a year. we give all examinations in the name of st. petersburg state university. this is the conclusion of the organization. we are responsible for him with my head i know a little about organizations in which the opinion is given in the name of the organization, and not specific experts, but i think that it’s wrong and the situation has developed when,

today, organizations subordinate to the government of the russian federation are not under methodological control. a-a of the academy of sciences of the russian federation, uh, and the higher school of economics and st. petersburg university and moscow state university and other organizations subordinate to the government have the right not to send their plans for the scientific work of their work to the academy of sciences. we've been doing this for a long time even before the appearance of relevant orders, i believe that this benefit should be abolished for the organization of subordinate governments. uh, once again we send to the academy of science and we will send regardless of whether this rule is canceled or not, because we believe that external expertise. moreover, the academy of science is correct two more proposals to the soviets after your reaction to my proposal regarding the

restrictions on access to departmental resources in relation to the organization of institutions of other departments. eh, it's come change. e. now we are monitoring the situation , practically none of the departments in the russian federation restricts the right to participate in competitions is another matter. how fair are these contests? well, i don’t know how, but raise it. e the level of honesty of competitions in relation to organizations subordinated to other organizations on the basis. think so, believe me. but what else, uh, the funds are given not only by the department, but we and our older brother moscow state university and the higher school of economics have financial resources that we are given for the development of science. we have development programs, the development program is linked to the country's scientific and technological development strategy, and therefore the funds are sent to us and as we want, of course, this is wrong. but i would emphasize the importance. that's

why if funds are given, then these funds should be spent on public open competitions. of course there is a closed topic. this is all clear. for more than 10 years st. petersburg university has been holding only open competitions, both scientists from moscow state university and scientists from other organizations take part in them. and our billion almost a billion that you allocate to us for the development of st. petersburg university and the implementation of the university development program is carried out not only by our scientists, the winners of these competitions. well, scientists of moscow state university scientists. e other organizations of the country, with which, working on these competitions about the competition are held by experts from the academy of sciences, they prepare products that are the result of their work, but belong to st. petersburg university, because the funds were allocated to us, i think that by allocating money of any organization. in a country in a similar situation without as if the situation is necessary to set

conditions for the funds to be spent not within the team. and in open competitions, which would allow external organizations to participate and the latter e access to infrastructure. uh, actually access to infrastructure is one of the problems that can certainly reduce e, duplication of purchased equipment, and purchasing two or three types of equipment in one region is software that allows you to control the workload of equipment and openness of access, in my opinion this is not the first time i have been talking about this at the council, unfortunately, the rules that have been approved. not very efficient in my opinion. i am talking about the need to create public rules for access to public property. you and i understand that if st. petersburg university was given equipment, then this equipment did not become the property of st. petersburg

university. this equipment is public and access to it is subject to regulations. rush not by my order, but should be regulated by the relevant federal regulations now, at st. petersburg university, access to this equipment is provided to all state institutions of the russian federation by an employee of state institutions, i think that issues should be regulated in this way again. there are security issues, of course, and so on and so forth in other organizations of the russian federation thank you and access to equipment and open competitions for the use, allocated to the university of your university resources is such. in general , a noble approach. and i think that, uh, that's as welcome as some of your other suggestions. we uh, uh, uh, i thank you for your presentation. i want to congratulate you and happy

birthday. i hope all colleagues join you all the best. thank you very much for your speech, but today is the 90th anniversary of st. petersburg state university, so you , as a graduate, have graduates in st. petersburg university, which today on the screen i congratulate on the 2199th anniversary next year, the tercentenary anniversary of the organizing committee under the chairmanship. hey, deputy prime minister chernyshenko, we're working. we'll see you for your 300th birthday, i'm sure we'll come with dignity congratulations thank you again, happy birthday, please, so colleagues, i ask you. anatolyevich thank you, given the time very briefly, two sentences, one on the training of personnel, and the other on educating a person. here is

the training. i want to continue your wash that no technology is without fundamental science and, of course, at the heart of all the new technologies that artificial intelligence told me, and so on, is some kind of fundamental to mathematics, biology, chemistry, physics, and so on. and so universities, well, including our uh, respond to this task of training personnel on the basis of fundamental sciences for applied research and have formed faculties. we have four faculties faculty of chemist chemical engineering faculty of chemists e. physico-biological informatics engineering science materials space faculty, science space, they are based at the volgograd base of the academy of sciences