events in ukraine, but everything went to this even once. i didn't get a clear answer. i have the impression that they themselves do not know what they want. here in france , sometimes the voices of those politicians who are against the supply, at least arms against sanctions, are still heard. eh, what kind of people are they, how do they e represent e. well, what percentage of the population? is it possible to work with them somehow? do they influence public opinion? well , talk about some big percentages there , but uh periodically hmm our interlocutors. again, recalls that e is the vast majority of the candidates. e for president in the last election. in the spring of this year, in france, they advocated the restoration of relations with russia and the development of relations. indeed, to a certain extent. eh?

uh, the french establishment is, uh, the mood in favor of restoring relations with us, because this is primarily in the interests of france itself. well, we can be said to be on the verge of a direct clash with nato, at least there is a risk of such. it's not like this here long ago, the grandson of charles de gaulle also spoke of the fact that france would have a couple to withdraw from the unified command. actually how did his diet. and how much this mood still appears here, is it more or less, or is it also a stable percentage of people who think so. how can one understand that not everything arises at once, and over the past decades, specific work has been carried out primarily from across the ocean with political elites in france and other

countries. uh, the same european union and nato in order to deprive these elites of complete independence and lead them. eh, how would you put the common fly in line, and in many ways it was successful. that's when u come across relevant, uh, officials in the ministry of foreign affairs and in other ministries. and already, uh, that france that was there in a big way, you no longer see, these are people who are in many ways. well , they already have a sense of atlanticism. uh, let's say it's a priority to remember, even a statement. here we remember, the entire minister of economy took the mayor, at the very beginning of e

last year in march. if i'm not mistaken, when he said that together with the united states we would crush the russian economy. well , as we can see, this did not happen. and what happened to the french during this time. that's during the sanctions imposed during the sanctions, of course. uh, a lot of bad things happened in the french economy. this must be given credit to e not only uh, the result of the sanctions policy that paris had to uh join. but also the general european crisis, the economic crisis, and the us policy of sucking out, producing on its territory, france first in the 1970s did not experience such high inflation for them, more than six percent. uh, although uh, of course,

uh . much succeeded. well, plus, uh, warm winter, enough. smoothly go through this period, but 86 billion allocated for economic recovery, it is clear that this money, they just, uh, can reflect the reaction of the sanctions policy on the domestic economy of france. well, also the trade balance, sort of, like decreased, almost two times, that is, uh. hmm, the situation from this point of view is not catastrophic. uh, because there are many factors, but uh, already today, uh, it is clear that when we say the french take to the streets. uh,

against pension reform. it's not so much not only. pension reform, and this is a disappointment with their economic situation. this is the situation in which the ordinary french worker finds himself today. it is often said that in france protests are already such a sport, that everyone is constantly protesting, but little has changed, in your opinion. have a sufficient number of problems accumulated so that the french really, well, it’s not that they rebelled, it’s clear that the pension reform is such a trigger, if i can say, it really has accumulated a lot of problems. does the french society feel this against the background of all the politicians' statements that they still need to be patient with tightening their belts and endure the evil of russia, for example, or has the critical point really passed? this is how the critical point after which the french are not ready to continue to endure their own impression that in general, the french are not ready. uh, in spite of

russia tightening their belts, but uh, the country is facing complex issues and complex problems. they may be smaller and the belt is smaller than in some neighboring countries, but uh, a very difficult situation with young people. from the point of view, on the one hand, employment, and on the other hand, which is no less important , the motivation of young people in order to enter the market often, uh, after all, the economy keeps and survives at the expense. uh, the middle generation or the savings of the older uh generation, that is, go, uh, to grandma and ask uh, money for something here is more. uh, more familiar than coming in and grandma helping out in the kitchen. yes?

e, that is, e, this is all being told, but there are also those industries , uh, that continue to work, well, that have already fallen into other problems. well, if we remember how, in a pandemic, let's say , the number of air travel dropped sharply. yes, this naturally affects this part of uh industries healthcare is a problem that uh in france uh already has long roots, because uh even before the pandemic anyway, uh in the french senate uh, seriously concerned about the fact that at the regional level, uh, the healthcare system is crumbling uh, and there is a shortage of doctors and nurses, who, uh

, yes, began to import from other countries , which has never happened before, because in general, medicine has always been the most so guarded. uh, in terms of jobs. u area for locals uh, no residents now that's not true either, that's it, it requires a lot of cash injections to keep the economy afloat, and france's public debt is growing and very fast and already the international monetary fund advised to cut costs. basically, it turns out at the expense of the social sphere. so after all, naturally, all abbreviations, as a rule, happen. e at the expense of social. uh, spheres and, uh, the problem of the state body - it's already becoming. well, there are, as it were, the founding fathers of the state long. yes, nothing like france before such uh, the numbers go, but this is a trend that would become

in most countries now uh, the same european union and uh those countries that are part of the eurozone. that is, uh, public debt is a scourge of real real people. uh, some mechanisms for reducing state debt. eh, except expand none of its allowed parameters are yet to be seen, but at the same time the military budget can be increased by a third. for example, france needs to see where the military budget is. uh , it will go, and how it would be, but in principle now, of course, uh, and uh, there are a lot of problems! uh, in parliament, because this is not the parliament that used to vote. uh, everything, all the time unanimously for the government line. e, so e is an active ruler. eh, the government

started using e. a scheme for adopting laws without discussion in parliament. here it is too limited e gear that you can't use every day, so we'll see how it goes. hmm , the subsequent budgets of the french in the french business are formed, it is far from all the same companies left russia, many remain, despite criticism. and how strong is this criticism, here, uh, how much? why the business itself remains, in your opinion, the business remains, because the companies operating in russia at least, a very large part of the french companies they have, uh, the profit from working in russia was. uh, a very serious percentage in their total, as it

were, the total profit of the company, and leaving russia is associated. uh, with a big financial loss, the business contact remains with us. well, no, we have a business contact. e stays with france yes indeed, those companies that have particularly strong interests in the american e market. uh, fearing repeated sanctions. uh, they uh leave, but they leave too. uh, doors often do not slam, that is, leaving opportunities for return, and those companies for which the us business is not dominant, they continue to work. uh, with regard to the culture of science education. here in this area, there are some other exchange

contacts of the exhibition or temporarily. now everything has stopped. you know very often they say that russia is at war with the united west, right? and this is not an entirely accurate definition - the united west is waging an all-out war against russia, and all these cultural exchanges for scientific exchanges are included in this war. e, the economy of people-to-people contacts, russia it can be said that a special military operation is being carried out, including against e-weapons, which are supplied by the west but, uh, we were just talking about business. uh, no one drives out business in russia, uh, gladly accepts both tourists and cultural opportunities, that is

, back, go and fight. e war against everything russian. and we are just uh, we are forced to limit ourselves to the military sphere of the topic. eh, how to answer especially. conspicuous by the cultural sphere when? here in paris, a friend , with a complete ban on russian culture , pulled up a certain personality who left the country and when you start to analyze this situation. it reminds very situation. uh, after the civil war, when all sorts of chantany cafes flourished here,

where, uh, they performed in some kind of uh, even in the world, before the restaurant public. uh, there are artists from various regions of russia, yes provincial means, this is the public in this regard. we can say that yes, there is still some cultural. absence, but basically, of course, we concentrate on the activities of our two cultural centers, where some events and concerts are constantly held. uh, but uh, the french public she uh, suffers because that, of course, uh, they were in a privileged

position, because both the mariinsky theater and the bolshoi theater performed every year. and you can’t replace this cafe with chantans at the same time, french banks, for example, closed accounts for russians or even a frenchman, who was born once in russia and this situation has already ended, they have already decided this and if there are any other examples or still this very russophobia, in addition to attempts to cancel the ban on russian culture, i would say is applied here. these uh methods of total democracy and struggle without rules, because even with all that, quite tough sensational decisions were made. here in the banking sector, what concerns russian accounts. uh, the citizens here are complete chaos, that is, no one

ever has a guarantee that his account will not be closed, his money will not be stolen, and many do not know, by the way, domestics. moreover, those who have already lived here for 20-30 years close to them to read and do not open, and either uh, hmm , even mixed families fall under this. the wife is russian, the joint account with her husband is closed. so, uh, our compatriots created a whole group, there are 70 people there. they, uh, went to court, well, the prosecutor's office has so far shaken up. this is a decision on the matter, but they keep on beating, meaning no guarantees. uh, the fact that you have an account in france can work. uh, no. he can act sometimes can

unfreeze him. well, not a fact, that is, here, this is already such a serious risk. maybe someone will definitely not defrost. this is near the arteries, and here, but they entered under the sanctions. although it’s like personal ones, such financial ones, or rather, there were no sanctions against the tv channel, but the work was banned and all opportunities were closed. and in fact. it was such a platform for our voice here in french. some other platforms and how often do you have the opportunity to convey our point of view in the french media naturally. uh, this fight against artie and the companion. again, she had nothing to do with it. uh, to uh events. e in ukraine because this war against artie has begun. well, at least since 2017 and it has been constant,

despite the fact that at all levels we set this question. e in front of the french side. here. well, they are afraid of being afraid. you see, though, hearing it is not very pleasant for someone. somehow european partners repeatedly asked me this question. why are you so insistent on telling the truth all the time? it may be that you russians do not need to annoy our older brother somewhere to be silent in european style. yes, yes, european. well, artita didn't do it, but uh even those who uh close artik franz yes. er, that doesn't mean a won't answer in french . i hope these questions will be. e, in

common world field resolved. here, of course, today. after all, uh, we live in a new information space, yes, therefore, uh, well , we use uh and let's say traditional resources, like television. um, i can't say that we are actively, uh, rather, uh, strongly represented on french television, but the voice would still be heard. here we all look with pleasure at the interview of pyotr alekseevich tolstoy, which, er, is periodically nailed to the local air. well, we actively use the internet today. the internet is also such a very serious resource and, uh, besides that embassy it is present quite there

space not without reason the same last year. i was called twice to protest along with the republicans of the embassy, ​​yes. information that was exactly um. e true and allowed the french layman to find out the truth about what was happening on the fields of a special military operation. that is, it is also, as it were, as evidence. the fact that they are watching us is being read and listened to. he understands what is going on in your opinion, because sometimes one gets the impression that the authorities are a little bit divorced here from what happening. well, on the street, even here during the demonstration, and conversations in a cafe and among themselves in the kitchen. there is no feeling of this isolation of the top from society. no, there are, uh, special propaganda machines that work and they work. eh,

all the time. well, you know, when you overfeed a person, his stomach starts to hurt, when you overfeed a person with information, his head starts to hurt. here you are if you open today. uh, hmm leading there let's say the french uh, hmm newspapers. uh, there, well, sometimes 2-3 pages or two three publications. er for the situation. uh, well, ukraine, moreover, they are all understandable in some sort of direction. and when you have it every day from morning to evening, plus television, all these talk shows, that's all for you. it is those who are fed that simply rejection begins, therefore, uh, many uh, the french are already

tired of this propaganda and therefore. we've always been interested in what rt shows. but it's not only arts, you know that now all over the european union they are even afraid that russians will watch their tv, uh, they are trying, yes, yes, to stop. they are from they removed such well-known inform resources. eh, nah, our channels are a different matter, i return to the topic of the truth to be honest. yes, that's why we e somehow access anyway the person who wants he gets e to our channels, despite all these obstacles that e are placed, therefore e propaganda works propaganda works seriously. she, uh,

influences some part of the uh population. eh, because, well, at the same time, she sees the same with everything perverted, there, like russian children eat there, well, they steal. well, this is the thesis that steals the poor children take them to artek yes. uh, somewhere there he sits on the cells. well, it's such an element, uh it's uh, but there are more and more french people who want to hear an alternative point of view. we see this, let's say, in the responses to our publications, despite the same attacks that are now being made on uh, on deguli's reactions to his speech and uh

, it must be said that it is your colleagues who are the main ones who are suffering. that's because those journalists who begin to write the truth completely block them. all of them they are fired. moreover, they are fired not only because of the publications, they are fired from the university, where they are there in parallel. uh, taught them. send. uh, threats to life precisely by a member of their families, that is, well, total freedom, total freedom of speech, and we have at least two cases when they simply requested political asylum in russia because it became impossible for them to live here, having worked all e in the french media in russia are leaving their lives. because they fear

for the lives of their families. one gets the feeling after talking with you that and our relations between russia and france now. well, then, to the lowest level at the lowest, but in one of the interviews you also said that there is nowhere to degrade further, but in your opinion. is there any chance for a recovery in the near foreseeable future, and what needs to happen for this to happen? well, there is always a chance for recovery, but uh, from this point of view, russian -french relations are more difficult for us, because we had such close ties. and when they were cut through no fault of ours, as they say, it is much more difficult to tie a rope, than fine thread. if the relationship were at such a trivial level, then

it would be easier to return. eh, now e is coming. well, i am sure that we will come to this anyway, as it has always been in the history of russian-french relations to restore these relations, but this will take time. uh, efforts, well, from both sides, we always say that russia is ready to restore relations, but they didn’t tear my uh, so it’s not for us to act here as, say, uh, pioneers. well, it's clear that now , after all, i don’t want to end up with the money of a diplomatic worker at minor instances, and what would you advise your colleagues to be young, novice diplomats. and what lessons can be drawn from the current situation, and which can be said to have been radically changed, probably, by reality in recent years. well, i've already used that word. today. eh, many times. uh, and uh, it is quite logical that

this quote is from one of our famous films, that u power is in truth uh, it has become so prevalent now. that is, uh young diplomats must understand that the strength is in our truth. and if he follows this principle, then everything will work out. i don't want to uh say again that we're having a hard time there. i say our predecessors. we experienced even more difficult times, this is, if we take the same france, this is the restoration of relations, uh, in the twentieth. ah, thirties. how long did it take to broadcast on our channel in our

state of friends for an invitation for hospitality very meaningful meetings with the chairman of the supreme sovereign council his deputy and minister of foreign affairs. strong confidential quality of the political dialogue of the leaders of africa in sochi in 2019 putin ok to you all my family, we

are friends mr. burkhan, confirmed his participation in the second summit of the russian woman, which will be held at the end of july in st. petersburg. last year also included visits to our country by mr. dagla and the acting truth of foreign affairs as part of the delegation of the league of arab states. we agreed during today's talks. continues to closely coordinate our actions for an international moment in the current form. uh, a rather turbulent

geopolitical situation, which is caused by the attempts of our colleagues, and from the west, to prevent the formation of a multipolar world. the non-admissibility of replenishment of the un charter , first of all, that of its part, which reads. respect for the sovereign equality of the state and russia and sudan consistently come out in the un in support of initiatives aimed at securing a democratic world in an order based on princes multipolarity, which are enshrined in the charter.