however , most of the crimes were not stigmatized. in fact , it is now being revealed from those that are revealed. uh, well, not by the police chasing criminals, but with the help of uh cameras that can identify people, and in moscow, of course, the detection rate is much higher than in the regions. we have cameras on every corner in the subway, uh, also identification by the police of a billion dollar embezzlement cannot be revealed with the help of a camera, the usual detective technique has not been canceled either. there must be a balance here, but from this point of view, as it looks to the church that this kind of system helps. uh, solving crimes , everything that helps to solve crimes does not interfere with the rights and freedoms of citizens. it's good. but uh, the system is very far from being wet during a pandemic. for example, i personally received more than one or two fines due to

violation of the isolation regime, one of the fines. i got it while in the hospital with a code. when, even if i really wanted to, i could not violate the isolation regimes, and the second time , for some technical reasons, a failure in system in both cases, i was given a mind-boggling fine of 4,000 rubles. everyone seems to, and in general, i took a decent amount of time, but to protest fine, oh well, fine fine. and if we are talking about some more acute, there are more actions . listen, here you have violated a restriction in the form of house arrest there. this is how we think now that it is a fantastic scheme, but fantastic schemes can very often take any moment, in addition, if, well, there are technical difficulties, because they you are stored in an impersonal form in the form of so- called vectors. that we are ordinary citizens is very difficult, we are convinced of the difficulty of access to information, everyone tells us, they are impersonal.

it's impersonal, it's impersonal, but banking information roams the country bases of car numbers roam the country, so we have to be very careful and we must, of course, call for the fact that a biometrics, if it leads to ah to the benefit, that's all very well the rights of the citizens their safety should be by far the priority. let `s talk about reproductive technologies. this is a very interesting topic. we see that , well, according to some doctors , women after reaching 40 years old in large cities, for example, in moscow. well, these are the statistics of doctors, well, let's say 80% of women can no longer get pregnant, naturally. ah, how does the church feel about eco ? do you have a specific position, for example, if a married husband and wife froze the material there or, uh,

they turned to the cryobank there, they froze the embryos, while not killing the embryos. and this is normal if, for example, at uh, there, it means that some embryos were sacrificed during the eco-procedure. and this means the church is unacceptable, that is, there is some, generally developed position of the church. we personally have it as the official position of the church. it is set out in the basis of a social concept, to which, in general , more than 22 years have passed. they were adopted at the jubilee council of year zero. there is a special section dedicated to problems. these are said there in black and white since that time the position has not changed. and what about in vitro fertilization, which includes harvesting excess embryos cannot be considered an acceptable point. and some experts and some

clergy claim that there are now protocols. in ivf, they are often called catholic or orthodox or japanese , depending on hmm, in what environments these protocols are used, in which one embryo is harvested, this embryo, uh, as if ah, sits down in the mother's body and develops, well, or does not develop and according to the supporters of this point of view. ethical issues in this case removed uh for my part, it seems to me that in this case, too, they have not been removed, because the natural conception is violated, there are also social aspects. any ivf clinic

is set up to make a profit. and, in the technical sense, harvest excess embryos. 6 8 will cost the same as preparing one embryo, because the clinic understands that it will not be possible to implant one embryo, we will implant another and so on, and in cases where families say only one embryo. you need to extract the same profit that you received when multiple embryos, so the cost of this skyrockets, and people look at the situation very often. it's just economic, but we'll try again after some cycle. therefore, if we talk, for example, about christians in the west, well, let's say, they are the closest catholics to us. eco is forbidden there in any form, even if theoretically harvesting so many one embryo in connection with the violation of the integrity, e of the marital act of family relations, that

an external side arises here that interferes with the fertilization process. here, a this, of course, is the topic of assisted reproductive technologies for most of our parishioners who, for some medical reasons, do not have children. acute must say that in a large number of cases both i and my acquaintances had a priest most often. so just the most vital situations of the priest do not ask for a blessing. here we are going to make iko knowing or hearing about how the church is negative, in general, relates to him and is usually confronted with a fact. you know, we have done eco, the question arises. and what will you do? here eco passes successfully the child is born. and what will happen to the seven other

embryos? are you ready to carry seven more children? this is not a very typical behavior for our fellow citizens in big cities, for example, no there there is another problem. i recently talked with a friend who is now undergoing ivf in mexico due to the fact that it is cheaper there. ah, there were unsuccessful attempts in russia in russia, uh, they don’t always uh do a genetic analysis of the embryo, for example, in mexico they do it without fail. and what happens? no, it's not even, uh, not planted with a bryon. and just now i’m talking about cryopreservation. and here are the twelve embryos received from her and her husband. only one suitable replanting, respectively, the remaining twenty. it means that not from life all other lives are capable or are endowed with some kind of diseases. well, here comes the big problem. about the murder of these embryos, they are already

considering them as living ones. here, for example, they are endowed with some diseases, what will you do with him if they are endowed with more of them. they have no right to exist. let's imagine a situation. we know that temples and children are born. children with down syndrome are semi-blind. well, listen to the disease. we have about 10,000 diseases. you know modern medicine. not all of them are fatal not all of them are immediately fatal. that is. if, for example, even just normally giving birth parents would do embryonic screening and find out that you will have a child, say, with field or there. well, i'm speaking conditionally, it would have to be aborted. his. it would be necessary to kill or what to do with it, and some say, this is how we will give birth. but for the time being, we will leave those children who are sick in a crooked conservative in the hope

that medicine will develop and there will be a method of treatment. and then we will bear them before my eyes is an image. what are you sending your children? in an orphanage moreover, you are not just them there. you can’t visit them there, come on new year’s eve to bring gifts on duty. oh, mitya, how did you grow up, there and everything else you send him to the nursery a house where you don't even know his name and don't know. how long exactly does he live there in an ordinary orphanage, the child spends time, either until adoption, or until adulthood. and then, uh, well, sometime sometime it's a very difficult decision. sometimes people take it. sincerely wanting to endure these embryos, and sometimes just wanting to get pregnant at any cost, and the rest. well, all right, somehow it will resolve somewhere there and then get settled. here i

participated in one, but the body of the controversy with the largest supporter of the idea at that time surrogacy, and he says, well , let normal people, but when he meant normal he meant the rich, of course. let rich people get children from surrogate mothers, and the rest of the embryos. he since you so care about them. let your church take them for itself and, uh, distribute them among its parishioners, forgive me. so , arrange a genetic embryo contest for yourself here. which one of you is the best, we will choose the best , the rest in the eyes of these people, well, almost rubbish. and the rest you are there, as in the marketplace , that is, the position of the church and yours, well we will talk about your position, it is against eco and, in principle, this is the conversation. it would be possible to finish, but since you are the secretary of this commission, you have broken ethics, and i

still see an interesting topic. now you are talking about embryos. this is already such a path. here is a couple. why, they cannot conceive a child for some reason they have an incompatibility there. and now we'll talk about cryo wire, let's say conservation of women. well, for example, i decided to give up. e your material and eggs. causes me a lot generally questions. uh, this is cryopreservation, where is the guarantee that and as you rightly say, commercial clinics are sharpened on the icon, you need to get the result. they kind of get money from this, where is the guarantee that my material will not go somewhere at all. and you can even go abroad. and in general, somewhere , maybe i will go, but they were already born there, my children are here. it may even be that before this danger there are others, and not all of soviet medicine, but most of soviet medicine believed that a woman giving birth after 25

years. and after thirty, this is definitely the second thing. well, pregnancy itself is, well, almost a pathology, or even a pathology. therefore , uh, this is cryopreservation. it is beginning to be perceived as a method of preserving the biomaterials of a healthy woman and is simply included in the concept of reproductive rights. here is one of my friends. he told me recently. guess i went to the doctor. you just ask your questions instead of asking. well, what are you going to save the egg? and then you're getting old. and uh, and all this is necessary, but how it was not at all about that gynecologists about this regularly, constantly talking. that is, yes, how can you not understand the patients of these doctors, but the preventive conversation is actually, then it was included in the interview protocol. and this is a question generally speaking, this is unethical, if you come and say that i want to save

my egg, my biomaterial, you can and should answer this question. and this already shows some kind of a revolution in the mind , a change in point of view. and then what happens. hmm, you used to trust doctors. you are in the end able intimidation. you donate an egg from yours. although so strictly speaking, you do not understand at this moment. why what will you do with it? is the fact that it will be of a high degree of preservation absolutely reliable by the time it occurs to you, and fertilize it, how to ensure safety, how to ensure that children are not confused in soviet times very often in maternity hospitals. well, boys were not confused with girls, but boys and boys often had the most dramatic situations. when later after some years they even found their

children. and here without any identifying features. here are some rows of these, i don’t know why test tubes of some branches. and what is it in general, therefore, uh, how is control organized? for example, i, who was interested in this topic, cannot say that i know the answers to this. and the same goes for embryons. this fully applies to the embryo. why for example? uh, thank god surrogate motherhood is prohibited, now favor hmm foreign the next thing i wanted you to ask, do you approve of this, then, naturally, how can this be disapproved in the countries themselves, the vast majority of the european union, but it is fashionable for us to refer to the european union as such, or it was fashionable to refer to the european union as such, a haven of legality, but the european pact on rights equates the use of the human body, uh, for example, uh, well, that's for

surrogacy, to the sale of children without an appeal without any talk. why is surrogacy prohibited in most eu countries because they so they look at it not as a manifestation of solidarity, but as simply selling the possibilities of a woman's body. here you come to a country where surrogacy is cheaper. what, uh, in italy is , let's say until recently, it was russia or china. so you are expecting your child between the so -called biological mother, and simply speaking, the mother has an emotional connection with this fetus. she bears him, then she loses him, then she may wish to return him back, russian legislation requires the consent of a surrogate mother. and for that

in order to give the child to those parents not bound by the act, embroidery and mass and mass of potassium arise. it seems to me generally that surrogate motherhood. after all, what is it based on? build it simple things, or i want to get rid of infertility. either i want to get rid of the pain associated with pregnancy and childbirth. put at the forefront. i want something that means at any cost. so i'll tear down the walls. i will go to achieve my goal at any cost. and then i think some of god's rules will intervene, god's laws, because, well, if you don't recognize will, god's plan of god about himself, if you do not recognize.

the need to accept the pain and suffering to the slightest extent, if the pain and suffering of infertility, so you will, god, you will understand somehow differently, but it will also be very painful for you when, say, in a couple it doesn’t work, children, people diverge and with other partners instantly children are born, that is, for years people try. you, as a shepherd, never advised such people to disperse, if their only goal was childbearing, and this is still, although important, but not the main ones are not the only purpose of creating a family, they will still disperse naturally, ruining the family with the hands of a priest. it would not occur to anyone from the priests that the priest calls. to accept childlessness as a fait accompli among other things, it is a fait accompli only at

the moment, here are examples of akim and anna who have become. uh parents, very late. ah. such examples are known not only from sacred history, but here and there they heard about people who had their first child between forty and fifty years the question of whether you accept it with love of yourself, are you ready to bow your head for it and say i accept and uh agree with this will, but i already leave aside such things as adoption and other possibilities, in the end and chatlessness can be a blessing. well, if we summarize father alexander it turns out that the following is god's plan well, whatever for people, who means god is not here, according to these laws of nature, it is not

given to a woman or a couple to have children, otherwise you need to accept this will against this nature against the laws. uh, the higher power does not go, but in this case, the opponent of this opinion will say that at one time people there died from colds from some other infections, medicine is ahead and now we have vaccines. we have now. uh, modern drugs. our country. now he is sick. e hmm a disease called the demographic crisis. she is seriously ill with us. i don't know what the loss is in the twenty-second year. he is half a million people. well, here, there are serious numbers. hmm, and the problem of childbearing needs to be solved already even not within. there, the families of the cities of orthodox secular people, in general, on a national scale, it is possible to say that the nation is under threat, and uh, if a married couple wants children, they have the opportunity to have these children. e. raise educate does not want to take from the orphanage,

but it is their right. you don't want to take someone else's child. they want to raise their child, doesn’t this desire to raise children block fate, there are defective or sick embryos that will remain there somewhere in some bank. or maybe they are sick with polio and so on. they can here and now raise the children of citizens of the russian federation if we look at it from this point of view, the motive behind it, what is wrong with it. i think that we are not mixing here, and the concept of the cause of the demographic decline in the russian federation lies in the monstrous losses of our country in the great patriotic war, which have not been completely overcome at all , and even now and the subsequent perestroika times, which led to social apathy , drunkenness, drug addiction, the emergence of diseases , with

which we thought we had managed through universal vaccination and so on. that is, when the family is going to have a baby. she does not at all think about how to solve the demographic problems of russia, a person wants to love his wife or his husband. and if you are a church person, then you are in the logic of accepting the will, god's, because it may well be that we have dozens of diseases. that's what you said about it. here medicine won, then only the tenth of the twentieth. she won, not when a person wanted it, but when the level of medicine, and the responsibility for the level of development of society began. here come the antibiotics. as a response to the mass death of people at the beginning of the 19th, there were no antibiotics, people died in the second world war, there were antibiotics, and they led to the fact that not so many people died as during,

for example, the first world war from festering wounds here is the same. if you are inside a religious vision, you are ready to wait, yes, if you say, no, it's all very long here and now, then no arguments will work on you. you will be walking on in the end, you will be able to give birth to a child through eco e to all sorts of clinics, you will say that some kind of ixi technology, for example, as a more humane form of eco, you will look for excuses for yourself, but why look for them? artificial wombs, which now talk a lot, but they promise. we are already on the threshold of its creation. what attitude will the church have towards this, well, an artificial pipe has not yet been developed for a person. although technically all possible possibilities already exist in the year 17, but under the name bill cow bill boxing

it was designed for lambs, if i 'm not mistaken, there are similar experiments going on for animals of a higher level of development , technically it's all clear to create conditions such as uh in the mother's body. e, to control the main indicators of pressure temperature. uh turnover, liquids and so on and will ensure the safety. e of the fruit introduced there. this idea was expressed a very long time ago by waldous. huxley, she is in a brave new world where people of different social levels are hatched in various kinds of artificial wombs and in order to the worst ones, which are needed only for physical labor, but more slowly developed into an artificial pipe. just add alcohol. and now they become such spoiled people, and what is the colossal

minus. artificial pipe. i am sure that the church will oppose it, because it is even further than eco ah pushes childbearing away from man. i was reading an essay by a schoolgirl from, uh, a small russian town, in which there is no industry, a city forgotten by god. and now she is writing an essay about an artificial path, a tenth-grader girl. she says, and i really like the idea of ​​​​an artificial womb, because i speak with those who want it not to be painful to give birth, and not with those fools who are ready to give birth in the field. a? well, it means that it is based on the idea that it is possible and necessary to give birth, they do not endure the period of motherhood with its difficulties , unrest, intoxication, they have pains of childbirth,

but this is against and naturally the gospel of john says. when e wife gives birth to her , it hurts, but when everything is behind, a person was born into the world, that is, again personal convenience, personal benefit overcoming by technical means, after all, it’s not at all the same as anesthesia, for example, anesthesia is given to you during an operation for medical reasons, and touching an artificial one is completely non-medical. this is not related to the preservation of the child, they will tell you, but if you are a normal person, if you are a rich person, then here you are, an artificial pipe, and this is only for cattle, but give birth naturally. it will become out of fashion. it will become. uh, a finger would be funny, but she gave birth herself, but it seems she went to the hospital. e. well, in general, all wild fears can alexander become the church's meditators? well, you in particular, and the boundaries of the technological development of the world generally come true or the forecasts of futurologists. now, if

we're just so global, i'll see. i love my students here, and in theological academies i quote the words of a not very good person , the creator of the american hydrogen bomb. edward teller he said that if something bad is invented. that this bad thing will definitely be used, no matter how scientific humanists, ethics, put obstacles, thank god, not everything is used, the evil that is invented and the role of the church, the role of believers, of course, is to support. achieving progress, which are put at the service of people in order to make it easier for people to live easier in the sense of being more free and self-confident, and in order to alleviate the burden of this

or that work to free up time for some kind of creative pursuits and the church, of course, will always be against that which deprives man of his natural god of the likeness of his being created in the image of god. we will always against what destroys the image of god in man thank you very much for coming to our studio for this interesting conversation with catherine

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