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[000:00:00;00] now, of those that are disclosed, uh, not by the police chasing criminals, but with the help of uh cameras that can identify people and in moscow, of course, the detection rate is much higher than in the regions. we have cameras on every corner in the subway, uh, also identification by the police of billions of dollars of embezzlement. no, you will reveal with the help of a camera the usual detective technique has not been canceled either. there must be a balance here, but from this point of view, how the church looks at it, that this kind of system helps. uh, solving crimes, anything that helps solve crimes. there is no attack on the rights and freedom of citizens. that's good, but uh, the system is very far from being wet during a pandemic. for example, i personally received more than one or two fines due to violation of the isolation regime, one
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of the fines. i got it while being in the hospital in a hospital view when, even if i really wanted to, i could not violate the isolation regime, and the second time, for some technical reason , a failure in the system in both cases, i was given a mind-boggling fine of 4,000 rub. everyone seems, and in general, i it took a long time to protest these fines. okay fine, fine. and if we are talking about some more acute actions, they say, listen, here you have violated a restriction in the form of house arrest there. this is what we now think that this is a fantastic scheme, but fantastic schemes very often become a loan they can take at any moment, in addition, if, well, there are technical difficulties, because they store their impersonal form in the form of so-called vectors. the fact is that we usually and citizens are very difficult to convince ourselves of the difficulty of access to information, everyone there says impersonal. this is impersonal, then necessarily banking information walks around
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the country of the database of car numbers. walking around the country, so we have to be very careful and we should, of course, call for biometrics, if it leads to uh, to the benefit, it's all very well the rights of citizens, their safety should be absolutely a priority. let's talk about reproductive technologies. this is a very interesting topic. sharp we see that, well here according to some doctors, women after reaching 40 years old in large cities, for example, in moscow well, these are such statistics of doctors, well, let's say 80% of women can no longer get pregnant. naturally, how does the church feel about eco
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? and this is normal if, for example, during the er, there, it means that some embryos were killed during the eco procedure. ah. this it means that the church does not accept, that is, there is some, in general, a position developed by eco in the church. we personally have the official position of the church. it is set out in the basis of a social concept, to which, in general, more than 22 years have passed. they were adopted at the jubilee bishops' council of the year zero. there is a dedicated section on problems. these are said there in black and white since that time, the position has not changed. and that in vitro fertilization, during which surplus embryos are harvested , cannot be considered acceptable point to point
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some experts and some clergy claim that there are now protocols for ivf, they are often called catholic or orthodox or japanese, depending on the hmm in what environments these protocols are used, in which one embryo is harvested? this embryo, uh, as if, but sits down in the body and develops, well or not, it develops in the opinion of supporters of this point of view. ethical problems in this case are removed, uh, for my part , it seems that they are in this case too, because natural conception is disturbed. set up
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to make a profit. and, in the technical sense , harvest excess embryos. 6-8 will cost the same as preparing one embryo, because the clinic understands that it will not be possible to implant one embryo, we will implant another and so on, and in cases where families say only one embryo. you need to extract the same profit that you made with multiple embryos, so the cost of this skyrockets, and people look at the situation very often. just economic, but we will try again in some cycle. therefore , if we talk, for example, about the christians of the west , well, let's say, they are the closest catholics to us. here and there it is forbidden in any form, even if theoretically only one embryo was harvested due to a violation of the integrity, but of the marital act of family relations, that
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an external side arises here that interferes with the fertilization process. here, and this, of course, is the topic of assisted reproductive technologies for most of our parishioners who, for some medical reasons, do not have children. this is the sharpest thing, i must say that in a large number of cases it happened to me and my acquaintances priests most often. so just the most vital situations of the priest do not ask for a blessing. here we are going to do ivf knowing or hearing about how the church is negative, in general , relates to it and usually confronts it with a fact. you know, we have done eco, the question arises. what will you do? here eco passes successfully the child is born. and what about the seven other embryos? are you ready to carry seven more children? it's not very
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typical behavior for our fellow citizens in big cities, for example, no there there is another problem. i recently talked with a friend who is now undergoing ivf in mexico due to the fact that it is cheaper there. ah, there were unsuccessful attempts in russia in russia, uh, they don’t always uh do a genetic analysis of the embryo, for example, in mexico they do it without fail. and what happens? no, it's not even, uh, not a transplanted embryo. but just for now. now i'm talking about cryopreservation. and out of the twelve received from her and her husband embryos. only one fit replanting, respectively, the rest were not capable of life. all other lives are capable or endowed with some kind of disease. well, here comes the big problem. about the murder of these, they are already considering them as alive, for example, they are endowed with some kind of disease,
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what will you do with them if they are endowed with illness. ah, they have no right to exist. let's imagine a situation. we know that temples and children are born. children with down syndrome are half-blind, well listen to the disease. we have about 10,000 diseases. you know modern medicine. not all of them are fatal not all of them are immediately fatal. that is. if, for example, even just normally giving birth parents would do embryonic screening and find out that you will have a child, say, with field or there. well, i'm speaking so conditionally, he should have been aborted. his. it would be necessary to kill or what to do with it, and some say, this is how we will give birth. but for now we will leave those children who are sick in a crooked conservatory in the hope that medicine will develop. there will be a method of treatment, and then
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we will bear them , the image that you are sending your children is not before our eyes. in an orphanage moreover, you are not just them there. you can’t visit them there, come on new year’s eve to bring gifts on duty. oh, mitya, how did you grow up, there and everything else you send him to an orphanage, where you don’t even know his name and you don’t know. how long exactly does he live there in an ordinary orphanage, the child spends time, either before adoption, or until coming of age. and then, uh, well, sometime sometime it's a very difficult decision. sometimes people take it. sincerely wanting to endure these embryos, and sometimes just wanting to get pregnant at any cost, and the rest. well , all right, somehow it will resolve somewhere there and then get settled. here i participated in one, but the body of the controversy with the largest
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supporter of the idea at that time, but surrogate motherhood, and he says, well, let them be normal people, but when he meant normal, he meant the rich, of course. let rich people get kids from surrogate mothers, and the rest to the embryo. since you're so concerned about them. let your church take them for itself and, uh, distribute them among its parishioners, you'll forgive me. so , arrange a genetic embryo contest for yourself here. which of you is the best, we will choose the best for him, the rest in the eyes of these people, well , almost rubbish. as for the rest, you sort it out there, as in a marketplace, that is, the position of the church and yours. well, let's talk about your position, it is against eco and, in principle, this is the conversation. it could have ended, but since you are the secretary of this commission, you have broken ethics, and i also an interesting topic. now you are talking about embryos. this is already such
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a path. here is a couple. why, they cannot conceive a child for some reason they have an incompatibility there. and now we'll talk about cryo wire, let's say conservation of women. well, for example, i decided to give up. e your egg material. i have a lot of questions in general. uh, this is cryopreservation, where is the guarantee that and as you rightly say, commercial clinics are sharpened on the icon, you need to get the result. they are like they get money from it, where is the guarantee that my material will not go somewhere at all. and you can even go abroad. and in general, somewhere , maybe i will go, but they were already born there, my children are here. it may even be that before this danger there are others, and not all of the soviet, but most of the soviet medicine was believed that a woman giving birth after 25 years. and after thirty, it’s definitely the second
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kindred, and pregnancy itself is, well, almost a pathology, or even a pathology. therefore, uh, this is cryopreservation. she is beginning to be perceived as a method of preserving the biomaterials of a healthy woman and is simply included in the concept of reproductive rights. here is one of my friends. he told me recently. guess i went to the doctor. you just ask your questions instead of asking. well, what are you going to save the egg? and then you're getting old. and uh, and all this is necessary, otherwise it was not at all about how gynecologists talk about it regularly, they constantly talk about it. that is, yes, how are you not the patients of these doctors, but preventive conversations are in fact, then it was included in the minutes of the interview. and this question generally speaking, this is unethical, if you come and say that i want to save my egg, my biomaterial, you can and should answer this question. and this already
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shows some kind of a revolution in the mind , a change in point of view. and then what happens. hmm, you used to trust doctors. you end up in a state of intimidation. you donate an egg from yours. although so strictly speaking, you do not understand at this moment. why what will you do with it the fact that it will be of a high degree of preservation is absolutely reliable. by the time it occurs to you, how to fertilize it, how to ensure its safety, how to ensure that children are not confused in soviet times very often in maternity hospitals. well, boys were not confused with girls, but boys and boys often had the most dramatic situations. when then , some years later, they even found their children. and here without any identifying
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features. here are some rows of these, i don’t know why test tubes of some branches. and what is it in general, therefore, uh, how is control organized? for example, i, who was interested in this topic, cannot say that i know the answers to this. and the same goes for embryons. this fully applies to the embryo. why for example? uh, thank god surrogacy is banned now in favor of foreign hmm. the next thing i wanted to ask you, do you approve of that. naturally, how can this be disapproved in the eu countries themselves, you are the vast majority, but in our country it is fashionable to refer to the eu as such or it was fashionable to refer to the european union as such a haven of legality, but the european covenant of rights equates the use of the human body, er, for example, er, and for
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surrogacy, with the sale of children without appeal without any talk. why is surrogate motherhood banned in most countries of the european union, because they look at it this way not as a manifestation of solidarity, but simply as a sale of the possibilities of a woman's body. here you come to a country where surrogacy is cheaper. than a in italy it is, let's say until recently there was russia or china, here you are expecting your child between the so-called biological mother about society there is an emotional connection with this fetus, then it bears it, uh, she loses it, then she may wish to return it back, russian legislation requires consent surrogate mother, and on a, in order to
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give the child, those parents are not bound by the act of bearing and there is a mass and mass of collisions. it seems to me that surrogate motherhood, after all, is what it is based on remained on simple things, or i want to get rid of infertility. or i want to get rid of the pain associated with pregnancy and childbirth. and put both at the forefront. i want and if i want, it means at any cost, then i will tear down the walls. i will go to achieve my goal at any cost. and then i think some of god's rules, god's laws will intervene, because, well, if you don't recognize the will of god and god's plan for yourself, if you don't. the need to accept the pain of suffering even in the slightest, because pain and suffering
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infertility. so you will. god you will understand somehow differently, but it will also be very painful for you. but there are a lot of cases when, say, in a couple, children do not work out, people disperse and children are born instantly with other partners, that is, people have been trying for years. you, as a shepherd, never gave. uh, advice to such people to disperse, if for them the goal is only childbearing, and this is still, although important, but not the main one, not the only goal of creating a family, then they will still disperse naturally, ruin the family the hands of a priest. it would not occur to anyone from the priests that the priest calls. to accept childlessness as a fait accompli . besides everything else, it's a fait accompli only at the moment, here are examples of akim and anna
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who became, er, parents, very late. ah. such examples are known, not only from holy history, answer, and here and there they heard about people who had their first child between 40 and 50 years old, the question of whether you accept him with love for yourself, are you ready for her to bow your head and say i accept and uh consent to this will, but i already leaving aside such things as adoption and other opportunities, in the end, and chatlessness can be a blessing. now, if you summarize father alexander this turns out to be the plan of god. well, you can call the laws for people whatever you like, who, then, does not believe in god? you, according to these laws of nature, it is not given to a woman or a couple to have children, otherwise this will must be accepted against this nature against
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the laws. uh, the higher power does not go, but in this case, the opponents of this opinion will say that at one time there are people from colds died from some other infections, medicine is ahead and now we have vaccines. we have now. uh, modern drugs. our country. now he is sick. e hmm a disease called the demographic crisis. she is seriously ill with us. i don't know what a loss for 22 years. he is half a million people. well, here, there are serious numbers. hmm, and the problem of childbearing needs to be solved not even within the framework. there are families of cities of orthodox secular people, in general , on a national scale, it is possible to say that the nation is under threat, and uh, if a married couple wants to children has the opportunity to raise these children, and does not want to take them from the orphanage, but this is their right. you don't want to take someone else's child. they want to raise their
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child, doesn’t this desire to raise children block fate, there are defective or sick embryos that will remain there somewhere in some bank. or maybe they are sick with polio and so on. they can here and now bring up children of citizens of the russian federation if we look at it from this point of view on the motive, behind it, what's wrong with it. i think that we are mixing, not mixing, and the concept of the cause of the demographic decline in the russian federation lies in the monstrous losses of our country in the great patriotic war, which have not been completely overcome at all , and even now and the subsequent perestroika time, which led to social apathy , drunkenness, drug addiction, the emergence of diseases which we thought we had managed through
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universal vaccination, and so on. that is, when the family is going to have a baby. she does not think at all about how to solve the demographic problems of russia, a person wants to love his wife or his husband. and if you are a church person, then you are in the logic of acceptance, the will, of god, because it may well be that we have dozens of diseases. that's what you said about it. here medicine has won, today is the tenth or twentieth. she won not when a person wanted it, but when the level of medicine began to correspond to the level of development of society. here come the antibiotics. like a response to mass death people in the early xix there were no antibiotics people died in the second world war there were antibiotics, and they led to the fact that not so many people died as during, for example, the first world war from festering wounds
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here is the same. if you are inside a religious vision, you are ready to wait, yes, if you say, no, it's all very long here and now, then no arguments will work on you. you will go to various clinics and in the end, maybe you will be able to give birth to a child through eco e , you will say that some kind of xxi technology, for example, as a more humane form of eco, you will look for excuses, but why look for them? an artificial womb, which is being talked about a lot now, but they are promising we are already on the threshold of its creation. what attitude will the church have towards this, well, an artificial pipe has not yet been developed for a person. although technically all possible possibilities already exist in the year 17, and under the name bill cow bio-box it
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was designed for lambs, if i'm not mistaken, similar experiments are underway for animals of a higher level of development technically, everything is clear, to create conditions such as uh in the mother's body. e, to control the main indicators of pressure temperature. ah, liquid circulation and so on and will ensure safety. e of the fruit introduced there. this idea was expressed a very long time ago by waldous. huxley, it exists in a brave new world, where people of different social levels are nurtured in various kinds of artificial wombs and so that the worst ones, which are needed only for physical labor, develop more slowly into an artificial tube. just added alcohol. and so they become such spoiled people. and what is artificial
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testing. i am sure that the church will oppose it, because it pushes even further than eco. childbearing from a person i read an essay by a schoolgirl from a small russian city in which there is no industry, a city forgotten by god and now she is writing an essay about an artificial womb , a tenth-grader girl. she says, and i really like the idea of an artificial womb, because i speak with those who want it not to be painful to give birth, and not with those fools, who is ready to give birth in the field. a? well, it means that it is based on the idea that it is possible and necessary to give birth without enduring the period of motherhood with its complexities, unrest, intoxication, pains of childbirth, but this unnatural
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gospel of john says when a wife gives birth to her it hurts, but when everything is behind, a person was born in the world , which is again personal. convenience personal benefit overcoming by technical means is not at all the same as anesthesia, for example, anesthesia is given to you during an operation for medical reasons, and artificial touch completely non-medical. this is not related to the preservation of the child, they will tell you, but if you are a normal person, if you are a rich person, then here you are, an artificial pipe, and this is only for cattle, but to give birth in a natural way. it will become out of fashion. it will become. uh, a finger would be funny, but she gave birth herself. here in the maternity hospital, it seems i went. e. well, in general, all wild fears can become a reality. does the church think about alexander? well, you in particular, and the boundaries of the technological development of the world generally come true or forecasts futurologists. here, if we
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look so globally. i love my students here, and in theological academies i quote words. not a very good man, the creator of the american hydrogen bomb, edward teller. he said that if something bad is invented. this bad thing will definitely be used, no matter how scientific humanists, ethics put up obstacles, thank god not everything is used, the bad thing that was invented and the role of the church, the role of believers, of course, is to support. making progress that they are put at the service of people in order to make it easier for people to live easier in the sense of being more free and self-confident, and in order to make it easier to drag this or that labor to free up time for some kind of
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