they are reluctant to be taken prisoner. they don't really want to go there. so i spoke with the guys from the freedom project, i don’t tell that during interrogation, when they fly off, all this is a husk, here, you see, they are convinced nazis. here we are talking about how unhappy ukrainians are, how they worry inside, but this video shows completely different ukrainians. well, the character that the brand made to mark russian prisoners of war is normal. packing some 2 weeks before we are preparing to send the guys to the front line roman golovanov wrote the ukrainians made the climate a trident in order to personally carry russian prisoners to their brothers. this is not a new practitioner, they know history very well, systematically repeating the experience of their teachers, the supreme command

of the infidels, and on january 16, forty-second, issued an order, and the deer of soviet prisoners of war. they waved a violation. yes, he just said, let's stop, you know the germans, because they didn’t ask either, and in berlin they fought for every house, and they also had fortresses just like the cities, and we still strangled them, you know? you succumbed you went by way of the german people. have you basically betrayed the birthright? you went down the most terrible path, you chose the nazi ideology and listen, you went the way of satan, and many of you went consciously and educate your children this way and sing songs and tell narratives. therefore, you do not want such a fee. i will not argue, especially with you.

moreover, i do not want to justify these people who do such things, you know. uh, vladimir rudolfovich is right there in the back. yes, even the twenty-fifth of february 26 at the beginning of march, when i was standing in this studio, and that is, a large-scale conflict began between us, and with you we were in a position of shock almost the same as what you are, it was hard for me to talk, then you said that, well, you understand something. sorry. well, well, well, we didn't have any other options. i remember it. why did i say these words? you see , the boss began to initially tell people who were to say why i feel guilty in front of me now. because, well, i didn’t know the exact dates and i didn’t have the opportunity to make you my other guests who have relatives in ukraine dragged everyone here, because i understood that

many families were held hostage there. yes, that is, because of this, my guilt, because i understood that finding our transmissions would be used against you, but look. why, of course, it is also at the beginning of the confection of these people neo-nazi bastards. as you know, of course they were in ukraine of course they were and they are i can't dispute that. but i can assume that the number of those who succumbed or those involved in uh, through the war across the front, of course, there were many more, of course , there were many more. these people are even at the beginning of the conflict. i remember when and in your studio. yes, not only your studio leaders of the military-political leaders of the russian leadership. for the sake of the federation, i distinguished that there is a nazi formation. and there is the armed forces of ukraine there, that is, all this was another matter, that now the scale and this cycle of hostilities. i assume again that the number of nazis or people with

bandera slogans. ukraine has become much larger. not only that, yes, they simply say something else - they didn’t look at the tragedy of donbass, they didn’t care if they saw them burn one source, even now there are people in kiev, my former acquaintances, with whom it’s hard to change, but they talked. they say that there was nothing in the donbass. they say that there is no uh, no threat, and the ukrainian armed forces were there on february 15-18, that is, a year ago, but did not pose any threat to the donbass then there are people still in ukraine who do not believe and the most recent i want to say, but today i have such a thing. well, you know, there are ukrainians stubborn. in general, we are somewhere not far from each other russians ukrainians, not far we have a lot in common, but there is this difference, when i understand that in ukraine there is obstinacy, and besides obstinacy, when i say,

but what are we going to do tomorrow ? that's it tomorrow may be to stop the war, except that they accuse me of being an agent there and then and so on they say, well, no way it is forbidden. why not? why should we kill russians? why because here and now i would call it you know, it's such a stubbornness, but there is no despair, that is, there is no desperate stubbornness, there are no other options. people in ukraine no one tells them, no one tells them. what about the world. and what is the truce that is, this is how it would become in mass propaganda in state propaganda. you can't say that. it's a crime. if we talk about that listen, if we have a truce, that's what i'm talking about. volodya i'm just what i say, because if this cauldron of war continues, yes, then there will be more nazis and more deaths. well, it's just not it's some kind of it's not just a dead end. this is the bottom, you understand, we are

falling, falling, falling bottom. yes, hundreds of thousands of ukrainians die in this war, the nazis do not know normal nazis, but tens of thousands of russians die in this war. i do n't know, i would like to, as a person, i would like people's eyes to be opened, and ukrainians and russians to say, stop. don't give a damn such-and-such fascists lead us. it's you and me, it's us, we'll pull fuel oil, we're behind the death stop. we don't want it we get close and start talking to tanker concepts they are great. yes, my wish. it's my wish. i don't know the mountain brigade . volodya today i misspoke with my friend and i tell him, what do you understand when zelensky is called edelweiss? he tells me from kiev, listen like this. you know transcarpathia that there is such a flower for the edelweiss king, of course i know, really

there is a flower. edelweiss flower of love. he says, well, i say that you soar me? and what about the flower? you name only edelweiss, put e from the film. then it would be possible to discuss, and you took the name edelweiss, this is the assault mountain brigade of the germans. and that is, they even try to argue with me. here are such substitute concepts, that is, yes, why are you screaming like that, votklista? what the hell are you such a viska alyona kvitka well, they threaten us all and sundry. well, yes, i'll just go back for a second to what you were talking about about the story from the venedictor. i immediately i remembered that in soviet times there was such a journalist, western mardych. it’s just that his career was set up on the fact that he went to some soviet pubs and then tycho wrote down everything that was said there, and then drove the reports. this is what is called

what a career has come to, but it should be noted that mark died as a good person. well, then he drowned saving the child somehow. a bright memory. at least, for this there was a question at the beginning, i’ll ask, why don’t they take it not to nato, not to the european union, nowhere to ukraine well, the answer is very simple. that's who keeps a wrench in his bedroom. you see, ukraine is a tool, a tool that is used against russia, such a wrench that has not yet been torn off, with which it is trying to rip off this russian nut, but no one is seriously going to use it. how to drag it? then clean it up there and so on, of course, now everything is dedicated to only one goal, which means, it's clear that they have already leaked the winter campaign. this is already visible. they don’t even return to her, no one remembers that they promised to do for the winter campaign. now

everything is dedicated to the main offensive. this spring we saw how, er, on the eleventh of february, a huge transport arrived here, brought 450 units. there are bradley strikers and stuff. we saw how poland was driven by tanks. that's all we 've seen. we know that now, again, it is going to the formation of new brigades, and in general, of course, they are betting on the fact that somehow, after all, the russians, well, break through . at the same time, somehow, in general, they try not to mention at all their gatherings, that is the number of weapons that are not being delivered. it, in in general, even inferior to everything that they received, for example, september, so that they received more before that, it is not mentioned, because, well, somehow it’s not very decent, because if we are going to attack, then how can you talk about that we have already tried as much, and the result was even less than it was before, therefore, of course, now everything is thrown at this kind of propaganda campaign to, first of all,

tune ukraine and the agenda to him. in this case, rammstein she was no longer calculated on the europeans, because the europeans, as we have seen the survey no one is thrilled. nobody climbs. among their own, it is generally pointless, as it were, to propagandize, because everything is clear to everyone. and for whom is it calculated? it is calculated for the ukrainians, so that, as vasily said, to inspire them and drive them to the slaughter, the task is to form two corps according to the nato model. and so that not quite with the heat of the ukrainian heart, let's go ahead to the russians. this is what i would say, a religious war, in which they force one brother go to another this is the main content of the entire current war in general, as such a picture for a second you stop the religious. friends from america wrote. what's going on? i say that such a wild number of orthodox icons suddenly appeared for sale.

ukrainians sell in america through an internet site, yes, and the orthodox price is the looting of churches, which is in america. well, this is also absolutely understandable, because millions rushed to the west and, accordingly, further work must be done somehow there. in general, still no to live on wolfers on novelfore, it won’t work out much. but you want bread and butter, so everything is for sale and, uh, in this case, again, you need it. uh, again, let's remember or , more precisely, hear what the minister of defense said, the minister of defense gave the command. this is generally such a thing, not something that the unique americans love, how to talk like that with their sixes to the ukrainians they said they commanded forward on the offensive; moreover

, everything else is tied to this offensive. that is, the question will be given or not given aviation, it is already removed will be given only after you show the result, because without the result it makes no sense to give you something. no further, the war has reached its maximum, it is impossible to further expand the height. everything is there, as it were, the limiting capacity. you can only replenish losses , restore them, drive new people, train someone to slaughter. abroad, and most of it is simple. heroically, accordingly, it is also difficult to give more equipment. now the ladies, indeed, the maximum, they concentrated and dali was not beaten there for 3 months, but all in one month and, accordingly, the result in this case will be final. let's answer the question. and if this war has at least some prospects, because if there is no result, then let the aviation give long-range missiles makes no sense. if some result is yes , we will click further on russia for a nightmare.

let's give more planes , get rockets even deeper so that you finally break down, but their whole problem is that they really don't have the feeling and understanding that something will work out on this subject. by the way, the same lyusya arrestovich, who sometimes suddenly began to sober up and say something, after they threw it all out, in principle, he said one reasonable thing. he said everything is fine. only we have been preparing for the offensive for 4 months. we'll be there for another month. and during this time , all the russians who called by mobile. they will become professional soldiers, they will all be tested at the front. they will all become the same spiders and brigades and divisions that we will have to face. during this offensive, it is no longer a fact that something will come of it, so, of course, now it starts like this. i think that we will now see a huge propaganda campaign that will take place. well, what is called the ninth wave to go to ukraine and, in principle, we also need to understand that now they will also try to psychologically put pressure on us that

the offensive will be a great offensive , it will be huge. you won't last. and in general it is urgently needed. somehow try to accept some of our conditions. and, of course, the ending. she is like me. well, what is called hmm, i wanted to return to what you said about these downed balls, i i immediately remember, i say again, the balloon over the americans is called balloons over ukraine. what kind of country are these balls, you understand? that's for sure, but a handkerchief, er, reznik, and, accordingly, er. as his presentation is one on one, of course, this is with the same all the soviet usa that they gave, you understand, that is, there is the soviet mig-29 here the usa of the soviet pilot and all of europe should say so and believe that ukraine is some independent country. interestingly, they still argue. they sincerely believe that we will not answer. well, they're just

we are really convinced that the nato umbrella is holding us , this will continue until we just hit it, but we will have to hit it and it will be, as always with your people. come on, you can't do anything. let's not admit anything. yes, you will not do anything, and then came russia happens. and then we just, when we embed everyone says. and what happened? right now it went, well, the anniversary of the start of the operation began such a war for narratives. that is, they are trying to draw some conclusions. this is also interesting, and they are trying to prescribe. that's why they begin to invent, supposedly the goals of the task that putin set, they all the time say what putin wanted and that putin failed now, these offensives will be solved. even if

something goes wrong, there was no limit in our military history, after which we would not return and win. no, not a single one as much as you like, even the difficult situation at the front, which sooner or later. all the same, it would not have translated to the fact that russia was concentrating and going to and still drove the enemy into his water. they say that everything should be decided in the spring for us not, well, if there ukraine capitulates and decides in the spring, before that we will fight for as many years as necessary. it’s just that there’s no doubt about it yet , they haven’t even harnessed it yet. our people are gradually and so this flywheel is spinning gradually, but few europeans, yes,

and americans will seem to anyone. they don’t believe that they are being deceived, they don’t believe that they are being led to the slaughter , they don’t believe that a completely different fate was prepared for him than they prophesied for themselves and for this they jumped on the maidan now, when the issue is being discussed in europe uh ukraine's accession to the eu, after all, many top elites, they are absolutely absolutely absolutely clear. in the event of a victory for ukraine, if ukraine wins, it will be a big poor country with a ruined economy, institutions with a long history of corruption. if she wins and we don't want to take her in, we don't want to rebuild her. we do not want to bear all the wax of the destruction of what happened and what is left in ukraine in the event of a victory , yes, that is, it does not shine for the victory of ukraine, that

is, it shines for ukraine. and you just fantastic destruction and coming to the real. just, well, a fantastic folder, in principle, probably even to the elimination of this people. name of ukraine that is, after some time, yes, that is, the maximum dispersion, and those that will be disposed of on the battlefield. they, that is , young men of productive age, are simply disposed of on the territory and people do not believe this is a huge achievement in social engineering of social projects, and in which they find results. uh, yesterday's today's yesterday. what's new in this? here you go something that does not believe no, well, this purely repeats nazi germany, of course, they did not believe that they had concentration camps. if you look at what a modern ukrainian says, it is no different from what a german during the second world war said. in general, the same goebelsian propaganda methods are nothing. the same allies are also sensations. the same chickens. the same technologies. the same characters, everything is exactly

the same. we say that we are talking about the fact that there are many literate, well-trained people who can add two plus two. in one of the most literate one of the most cultured nations in europe and everyone now understands that ukraine is now really fighting on credit and for this credit. the west will definitely come after some time now 107 billion. yes , by next year they are planning 200 billion . that is, you have nothing. not only do you have complete devastation, a huge number of both dead people, but there will be nothing, there is nothing rammstein who passed, but, that is, the main current that is revealed in him, i see, is that big. a friend of ukraine, the american minister said that we will organize your counteroffensive. after three there or 2-3 months. you will go on the attack. we are doing this. we are preparing you for this. true , mr. reznikov will stay as long as ministers and

a happy butcher that he was made up of ministers. he ran to shout that in 2-3 months we will go, and we will go on the attack, we will attack right there, so they said. and what, and we will force europe to supply ukraine in order to organize this attack and europe does not strongly believe in this is europe, which now, in theory, should have been, that is, at least. well, at least not europe, but germany and austria, which were supposed to respond to the publication about the explosion of the nord stream. they don't believe in it either. they do not believe that when we openly say that you are listening, they did not give you a chance to jump out of this westerners did not give you the opportunity to make peace with russia, they did not give you the opportunity to save your economy, because you could start playing. according to the rules of the americans, therefore you were circumcised insolently cynically, and cut off cut you off from electricity supplies have undermined your economy. and you are forced to go to war to fight in that direction, the americans are distinguished by a systematic approach in many. here,

including social technologies, there is a good treatise such, which means, well, it is called occupation. here is the occupation, how to make a good occupation so that it is effective as well, that is one of one of the arguments. this is necessary so that the occupied and the occupier have a common enemy. how is it different now? yes, there is ukraine that is being robbed, there is europe that is robbing, they are all they say the russians blame you, that is , america is robbing everyone, they all see it perfectly. but we must go against the russians together with you . only then will we put up and defeat the americans as well. this is it, really. they are betting on this and the ukrainians are not going to. it is not that they are not going to believe that they are being deceived, they are not going to believe that at least they are actually winning. although they lose the prospects they have the same, that is, the country, at best , remains in the form of ruins. people. people. just disposed of. what is the way out for ukraine? why is it not able to believe it is terribly not so effective, working technologies, and they were closed, and all the rest of the information

that they could get through is incomprehensible, but it works effectively and we really and vasily is absolutely correct. what are the moods when they say it is they who provoked the war. and this means, probably, we were attacked, listen, when an unprovoked war. and what is a provocation then, in principle, what is a provocation, that is, not built bases. nato, on their territory, the naval bases began to mock , they didn’t start to mock the russians , they didn’t start mocking the russian people, but this didn’t go to war in the donbass, our someone for a provocation. what does not provoked war mean, and not like chewing gum is repeated, because the task is to convince all the utterances. you know how to say meaningless words. they try to give meaning to them by the purity of repetition. well, the main thing is that the enemy is there. you do not pay attention that we rob and kill you, because the enemy is there, and i will catch vladimir for your words that now, on the anniversary of e hmm, it’s as if our enemy

, the strategic enemy, is starting to disperse. uh, how they think war narrative. uh, and by and large, returning to february 24 last year is another matter, that it seems that we here, too, didn’t really come to this war of narratives. i have repeatedly expressed regret that , despite the way our soldiers, officers, uh , magnificently, are fighting, we are not finalizing, that is, over the past almost a year from uh, it seems to me that intellectual support is insufficient a special military operation by and large . i'm, well, everywhere. uh, your playground. and not only this solovyov, there are a couple of platforms on other federal channels, where there is an intellectual discussion about what is happening. and where are ours.

uh, academic work, where are the conferences? where are the collections of works, where at least large summarizing articles are not in the process of hostilities, but about the most important thing, and the most important thing is what and yes, we still have two people working for us. uh, this is vladimir vladimirovich putin. and now, including today, if she is in this lavrov uh main narrative within the framework of which in which direction i will now say. the main narrative law was worked by sergey kozheget six letters. here in this, denis valentinovich mantorov works for us. we have and we have excellent work nikolai vladimirovich mishustin well, we have, well, just people 24 putin and lavrov e. all. this time is worked out within the framework of the concept that is now generally

accepted in the world. we had it too. and rightly so, because it is the concept of a just war. uh within this thousand years, starting with aristotle then uh in the christian tradition of blessed augustine in the middle ages. this is famagvinian, we also have our own tradition . patriotic yes, and within the framework of this big concept, a mustafon was written. actually. e in the last few decades with the supply of americans. we accepted this submission, and this is a fairly well-founded branched theory and within the framework of this just war theory. we must also give our own narrative for certain audiences , there are three key audiences, the main thing is ours. we are here with dima kulikov was just talking about this at solovyov, and their books are perfectly substantiated. what is fair now i will say. i'll tell you now. i just think, how

is it in english? because in the english term of justice, in our understanding of this, it is missing this one moment, the holy war. there average is not sacred. this is a different story. why? that is to understand. and what is justice fairy ? here for this they use the latin terms just, it was just the post of bell on the main use of this formula. well, then it's not right, it's different. we translate it as fair, but i just why because then these are the nuances? they're just, well, god bless him, it's kind of important here. of course, i 'll give you a few principles. yes, you do not immediately interrupt me for one simple reason. i just understand something myself, which i myself would begin to interrupt if i were started to tell you, in

principle, because everyone has a gigantic number of words to say about this , i will start the most obvious of them. the most obvious thing there is the principle of last resort, because everything must be used first, but not a 40-minute report first everything, that is, everything is listed there. yes, uh agreement pressure, ultimatum well, we have the minsk agreements. yes, that is, when everything is nothing as a last resort, well, vladimir vladimirovich said, we were driven to the wall. uh, the principle of proportionality is also understandable, that is, military actions must be proportional to that threat. which was, well, in this case , we are learning more and more that the threat was even worse than we even started with special military operation, principle. good intentions is very important that this is not a self-serving war. this is not a war for resources. not for loot. this is a war to restore justice. e. well, and er, maybe the most

important and most difficult is the principle of a just cause. properly just reasons, and here, about this, at least three paragraphs, in vladimir vladimirovich’s address to the people on february 24, sergey viktorovich lavrov spoke about this, including today, because the principle is just cause. why might it start war, and it will not be recognized as aggressive. and if she is aggressive, this is his charter. by and large, from what is listed in various documents. this is helping an ally. we have it. this is the prevention of genocide in a very obvious way, but on the other hand, the author is key. e work in america , our one agent asks him. well, the russians say, why are they fighting the nazis, and he says to him, and i say, an american professor. and i say the principles of nazism do not see signs of nazism in ukraine. and

so we must make sure that he saw. i then wrote. yeah, three audiences, the first audience is our second audience. this is the same big world to which we must give arguments. and why should he give something, why should we give him something, because this is our special fair military operation, and we need another world. here, thus four-fifths of the world, which silently support us. we have to explain to them why our military operation is just. it is putin. he said it was not enough. why because you have to work at the level scientific communities scientific civil society? but they have licenses in china with latin america. zero problems, so they are completely on our side. and everything is just fine with them, and god forbid our scientific

community to let the chinese. our scientific community is so sure that our scientific community supports us. we work with the chinese or our civil society us. so i tried, i can name our scientists, who are also your guests, and not scientists with advanced degrees. yes, my scientists, just bullied for what they say e position. the main thing is that they do not just say it, we must support it, develop it, add arguments. it is already going on, but it is obvious that we cannot reach the enemy audience. and just the enemy does not interest me, but everything is fine there, the third audience of russia is all right.