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how should the russian economy function as efficiently as possible in the current conditions, when , on the one hand, sanctions have been imposed against our country, on the other hand, there is a corresponding need, a special military operation was about this the day before, in particular , aleksey nechaev, leader of the new people party, spoke with the current president, aleksey gennadievich. in our studio hello . here it is interesting, of course. uh, how should the economy be built, because well, not that the situation is non-standard. it is never standard, probably on the tone and economy, but especially now, when we have heard many demands before that, let's put the economy on a war footing. and let's make some planned elements even of the economy in order to, well, some hmm some actions. yes, like a flywheel. uh, they worked in the interests of the front,

but it is clear that no one is discounted in the same small business. the same medium business. well, and well, and another. here you problems with this idea to lead the entire economy on a war footing is that the proposals immediately sound. let's introduce state regulation of prices, and this immediately kills any small business, put it on. eh, as if well-intentioned mobilization economy, but really a rejection of market principles. he will bring down the economy, the soviet union itself collapsed to whom such a collapse, and modern russia, because it has resisted so much that russia is a market one. well, okay to the soviet union but earlier, look, as it were, the crisis of the nineties. that's because it's legal and it's another matter what's real, of course, uh power working to support the military. they are now loaded in two shifts. their

three shifts are looking to recruit staff and form supply chains. that is, there is work going on. not the absence of an emigration economy does not mean that we should be relaxed. no, you have to work very actively and there is a huge load of business and industry market rules. they usually say the opposite what rests. we only dream, yes, and relaxation. there is no market half here. this is better than our half, just about the industrial policy, the new industrial policy. uh, which is now being formed right before our eyes. uh, how is it supposed to work? what are the principles? what principles? it should be relevant and what questions should be answered first. well, first of all, it is very important that the president himself supported the very idea of ​​a new industrial policy with covert support. eh, here is the main point, what is it we used to count the president as well. so yesterday he also said with a laugh that in the nineties it was believed that we would just sell oil. yes, there are other natural

resources. she will take everything. we see that it is not. we are not even ready to sell. eh, i don't know if there are any. uh, a brand like chanel or something like that, let alone such simple things, that is, they won’t bring anything to us, we need to have our own industry. and now industrial policy is about something that has its own independent self-sufficient industry to have such a technological sovereignty, that's about it and the first thing about it. e that private companies that perform government tasks should have government support. here is the most striking example of sibur, they are investing 320 billion of their money in building small-scale chemicals in the country. we didn’t need it before, when we can bring it high from the west, we use the west as a raw material influx of russia for unimportant chemistry, but now we have been refused. there are more countries of the ingredients of the eu sanctions, we need to stand chemistry before. if you don't take it unprofitable to compete. why build from scratch, and now here they are with him

pro-traders. all this is taken and the state instead of investing in thumping their money. in this, yes, not 320 billion. a small subsidy of interest rates, that is, relatively speaking, the state costs, well, conditionally , there is 10 billion subsidies for private companies so that they build an entire industry in russia, i remember 2014, when, uh, they started talking for the first time about import substitution economy of import substitution. and then such phrases sounded. what is it for in general, we need it, but when you don’t have such a situation when it’s just that the global market suddenly, uh, once, and somehow closes, it turns out, it happens, but in general it was already visible, even here in the trade warriors, uh, in at the end of the 1910s, due to the covid situation, the world had already begun to break up into monetary zones into economic zones. so to speak, the global world began to get caught by food of its own. ah, of course our operation. she sped up the process. yes, this is what happened in the nineties, when they tried to force us too. eh, including

the leadership of our country and so on tried to force us, for example, to abandon our own commercial fleet. but why would they refuse to bring everything, then now we would have chopped it all off in a beautiful way, but about, uh, the imposition of a duty on imported goods. it's called protectionism. here they are, well, in some such critical sense, they are now somehow acting. something else we need to limit. and here these are two forgotten words in russia - industrial policy and protectionism, and the ministry of industry and trade supports the idea of ​​positionism. do a number of such economic ministries understand what it is? what is a smart process of actionism in the modern world, and the president also, firstly, supports it, but yesterday i talked about this in detail about what duties to drive in what categories, he analyzed it in great detail there. and what is interesting, because now the first six countries have made an experiment in 70 product categories of the great increased

duty from five dashes of 15% to 35. this is in response to the fact that western prices have raised, and these west alone countries usa canada great britain new zealand australia and poland are the most such ours. uh, an evil friend in europe, and what is important here is that there are only six countries in total, seven categories of goods, that is, very little, but this is more than two billion additional rubles a year. uh, in the direction of such product categories, there are a lot of such unfriendly countries. there are 50 of them. but there is a very effective president man. just act very carefully, it’s important to invest in yourself with these pistons, but look, the west led these vulgar ones unilaterally, spitting on the wto on all our agreements. as a matter of fact, they recognize advice . they shot themselves a little in the legs, too. but in general, we are silent, we have been accustomed to being open and friendly for so many years

. they take away the assets of russian companies and impose unilateral duties. and what are we, uh, well, how to say the weak are beaten, so let's answer. this will also make many people come to their senses, otherwise they want to punish us, while they themselves live in the same paradigm. no, it won't, so this experiment is underway. we are all waiting for the results. first quarter. what will the revenue be and it is very important that these duties be applied to those product categories that are used by 2-3% of the richest people in russia so that it does not affect the masses and the president. yesterday he said to me and see that this does not affect the rise in prices on the shelves and, of course, they are the informant and the ministry of economics and our party, but people are all interested so that this does not affect the wallets of our fellow citizens alekseevich when they talk about support measures, and this was relevant before that, when everything time spoke. let's give support

to our manufacturers and so on and so forth. i have heard this phrase very often. we do not need us only case. you are not preventing us from doing this. now this is also the case. yes. i think the difference is they are here. well, i don’t know, yes, you watch a lot of them, firstly, you are right, but people did it as they agreed. they say first. let there be no administrative pressure on us and the second. we would like cheap money. and when i never need people to support things added, we will pay for them later. yes, we will pay for it, but what an important thing. we are now taking these duties, we are painting higher and 50% are directed to support the industry, for example, so what is already done in agriculture is done in you remember the recycling fees in the car building money. they are taken from the industry and sent to the industry, which is not enough for russian national producers. first of all, this cost is not enough. uh, emotional is not enough brand. the president told me yesterday. well

, of course, the modern economy is economy impression. and advertising is also called yes and advertising, no matter how we treat advertising, advertising promotes the values ​​of the brand. e company values ​​are promoted, why buy it? and today, our manufacturers are no worse in quality than western ones, but often they are at a lower price. and if you have the same price, it means less profit , less taxes, less salary, and so on. therefore, we need to equalize and this can only be done by creating additional value through advertising. so if we take money from these pistons, for example, light industry. we have friendly countries with them. we work as before, if not friendly countries, these are usually, by the way, expensive goods, yes, expensive clothes, expensive shoes. we impose a duty on them, and then we send the money to the players, uh, who are ready to develop their own share, for example, for each ruble of advertising support for a state subsidy, the manufacturer gives a ruble of their own money. so this money would not come to television. but when

the manufacturer pays a ruble and the state helps the ruble, firstly, the channels receive money once, the winners of the second budget receive a fee, increased budget revenues. now there are very important incomes and the third national players receive money that allows them to force out foreign ones from these markets that are being released. e players. this is three times. this is a triple effect. very good and the president and he was supported now , we are also in such a period when some young people. they're looking at this situation , too, are trying. uh, trying to make some money trying to run their business. younger. yes , he is getting younger, eh. well, i, for example, uh, took it very positively when you started this project. i'm in. uh, because in a few years they will be ready, the businessman has already taken it out. by the way, here is the question. general communication with the president. by the way, it is always quite limited in time. yes, there were none. these are other more

frankly frankly serious topics, or indeed this is such an important pressing topic that it is impossible not to talk about. but there is there are many topics that someone in russia is engaged in without us, but there are topics that will not exist without us without us. a year ago, when the president and i last talked, i personally told him about such an idea. he asked how to help, and there he suggested several such moves, and in a year he managed to do a lot. yes, 85,000 schoolchildren and students are covered there more. uh, the third one is the students. uh, 9,000 graduates completed a five-month course, and out of them, teams made 1,500 different stories of their own in the same place. social entrepreneur part of the technology part of the information made a lot just such goods. well, what do you know, it's easy to easily make and goods and sell them and this is such a breath of modernity is an opportunity for people.

harsh years, yes, on the one hand, they give a big load, but on the other hand, they open the way to success for many people, and this has always been the case in russia, yes, when something goes down, something grows. and this energy is creative energy, do not dream, do not envy, but poking around in nose and do your thing. this is very good energy. you know, it qualitatively distinguishes the current era from ours from what it was in the nineties, because, uh, let's say that, including you, took under your wing. so you develop this one. on this one, this direction, it contrasts sharply with what was in the educational, by the way, scheme in the nineties. and when some kind of business was also formed there, such circles, i remember absolutely in the nineties more in the eighties, i also studied in the nineties was. but then that's the whole point. sell ​​it. sell ​​very much, in my opinion, now it was primitive. and now, if there were mentors in business, of course, i would move faster and

the guys now, that's what they say now, we also raised about 600 mentors and 600 experts. that is, there are so-called trackers. those who lead the groups are mentors who saturate them in this way, these are people who are mentors in business. such leaders are leaders who other students who have already completed the program and have more experience lead team groups, and the second is saturated with business. and these two two types of mentors, 600 of them and 500 of others, put a lot of effort into the guys. here i have, damn it, mentors were. i think it would be more successful to move and all the guys also emphasize this. you say that there are also people who are engaged in business. this is what they have here, well, for sure, there must be and is meant some kind of interesting of their own. again, look at people. yes, first of all, a very interesting thing is that people in russia what you do is arranged, when you give something for another, then often you need people to return. so and how will i get it back, in general, human value?

yes, how it will return to me, they usually don’t do it, but people who begin to give, and then they will return in some form now for this case, when, for example, someone says, listen to the team, he says. let's you learn more, come to me to work one type. yes and so they would never have met, another case, they say, listen, can i invest yours there startup and yes, of course, he needs money for equipment there, that is, there are some operations, but not the goal of mentors. yes mentors so i'll go and see, help, someone to earn something from this. no, people. just give give. eh, boons repay some debt. well, new young people owe their homeland that they once invested in them , and this is a very good energy on it. you are right, some new alliance relations are emerging. yes, again, a very interesting effect. we have many guys. well, very strong they say, well, as we thought, we used to think now that we will unwind all this and leave for moscow, st. petersburg, kazan, and now listen, we are with the team. yes, we have a community. we're not going to anyone. we want here, it seems that

we are all here in our small motherland, but we are more needed and we can achieve more, but uh, actually stop this trend. this is such a brain drain from the regions to the federal centers. it still continues such warm hearts. well, brains, including brains, too, but do not interfere. that's why i just wanted ask, here, uh, how and uh, is it necessary and will it be as suggested by the president? i understand, yes, this idea is scaled to other regions, but for the whole of russia in general , the program now works educationally with sixty-two regions. we must give a lot of credit, and the governors and deputy governors are very supportive of almost 300 universities here, it was the ministry of science and education that also gave such a green light and personal elks, the giant was also with us at the final, he talked with the guys with the organizers. that is, the country is he also invests with us in this project and it is interesting that the president says yes

. here, we are ready to open 10 new ones, including lugansk donetsk , because there is also such a thing, you know now , uh, there is a need for people who earn money themselves, who ensure the supply of goods of various products. there right down to the logistics of the service. there, this life needs to be nourished and everyone wants to earn money and people need to be taught, and moreover, our activists are in donetsk in luhansk, uh, it’s just like that to what they say, listen , we have some kind of boom right here, as if the nineties here everyone wants everything stuck. eh, golden. yes, the same for me. says denis vladimirovich pushkin should he say, listen, well, we need. let's help we're out. uh, just now there was about uh, the prime minister of the donetsk people's republic who just now the state council was going through in the development of small and medium-sized businesses these issues. just got up. yes, in particular. here he was asked in the context development. donetsk people's republic, well uh, we already had this conversation. and you

know, there was such news here. i'm all about development and all sorts of ways. how this development can be achieved yesterday there was such news, and in the eu they decided to recognize uh russia uh, such a tax haven , such a tax haven, uh, but in fact, many, probably, are now an assistant. well, many, probably, will see some prospects in this. yes, why not, they will translate to us. uh, if you see what's here with taxes it will be somehow simpler. well, how is he doing? there are the same reeds there, some kind of isle of man, in my opinion, you know, i think that here the european union does not know what to get to the bottom of already 10 packages of sanctions have already done this and that, so why did they admit it right away, that we have better taxes. well, well, at the same time, they now want to make a trick out of this later, that,

like, if the taxes are better there, then start trying us. eh, still strangle the fact that prices are not market. that is, this is here, this is done not because they want good for us. they never do not prepare platforms in order to then begin to harass our manufacturers of suppliers. i’m not so market now, in general, the market in the international market is just the exchange of goods and services and it doesn’t smell, it doesn’t smell especially, but you are left and like a commission that starts talking there, something is not market. no, this is what they do. this is an unfriendly accessory, in general, the very idea is there, so that in russia or there i don’t know, there are some regions of russia, for example, to make such a quiet harbor. but as you know, we already have two regions. yes, in kaliningrad areas. there is such a zone, uh, on the russian island in the far east. look, this is a good increase. this is the cherry on the cake , that is, the economy is growing, if technologically we have, uh, independence, then such, cherry on the cake, the tax will be good, but the money never comes. uh, people go to taxes after taxes, but

opportunities go to the markets. and now, that in russia the territory of opportunity has become more important than there will be good taxes taxes, to be honest, in russia after all. yes, by the standards there are normal, but for the very structure of the economy they are big in russia before. remember there was such an expression of the severity of russian laws, as it came true. right now, taxes are not so often good enough to collect taxes competently. and that is why pressure, including tax pressure, is now so heavy, so here, so to speak, taxes should be reduced, but reduced for our own people. well, very carefully, because we can not, too, to escape was a gift. yes, you need to raise your legs on strangers. that's how we came up with imports, and duties for other people's finished ones. lift a with your help, well, let's support our own . this is such a healthy slogan for any economy; russians do not rush their own, including commodity producers, yes. before, supporting a domestic producer sounded like some kind of mockery. yes,

now there is a completely different meaning. soviet is a very language. this is luzhkov's domestic manufacturer remains literally. there is one more test, the final producer has an important question about russian assets abroad. we still said goodbye to them. no, e first of all, we will fight to defend them. here's the second, uh, nothing disappears. yes, and life, a long one, everything will return to normal and hmm, either we will defend your assets now or we will return for them later. in general, well, that's all. now, for example, they don’t give up their assets, they also transfer them to strange third parties, for example, yes, everyone understands perfectly well that let’s turn russians into it, the united states is already transferring something there. but this is banditry in general, it's called it's out of the village, it's outside the logic of common sense. it's out their own idea of ​​private property. yes, it's property now, so no, it won't work like that. because of this, we will ask someone, then we

will ask and return. we will ask and return, but i really would like this to not end with impunity, as in the case of undermining russian gas pipelines. uh, what’s the point now and china says that let’s investigate this case already. but in general , today in the state duma we supported the fact that the icons should really turn to other organizations to do investigation. those are trying to think it, we'll see, well, they are interested in it being a lot, because the whole, and a huge part of the world is looking at how russia is now fighting with this empire, and the dollar and i think that there are supporters in this. yes, there is a certain romanticism in this. yes, that's all . many people remember such difficult times now with a share of such romance, and hmm alexey gennadievich thank you for being in our studio. thank you for a very interesting conversation. we wish you great success. here is just in particular. that's the field that

implies. ah, among the youth. yes, that's entrepreneurship development. well, we uh, now uh. hmm let's show footage from the government house. good afternoon, dear colleagues, on the instructions of the president, the government has completed work on the formation of passports for investment projects for the renewal of the air and water transport fleet, all relevant contracts with aviation industry enterprises have already been concluded , we will increase the volume of serial production domestic technology of a new generation. well, and accordingly reduces dependence on foreign models, strengthening technological sovereignty in general, and the need , which the head of state says, the government has determined an additional list of self-sustaining projects for their implementation in the aircraft industry this year, we allocate a total of more than 237 billion rubles. and

in the next 2 years, over 32 billion funds will be provided on a return basis through. purchases of bonds of russian leasing companies the solutions will allow aeroflot group to receive more than 60 long-haul aircraft on preferential terms in the next 3 years, including the flagship ms-21, the updated superjet and the tu-214 about a hundred helicopters of the family. the mi-8 will also be delivered to airlines operating flights in different regions of our country. and about a third of them by the end of this year , almost four dozen more domestic aircraft. aurora, a single far eastern airline, can replenish its fleet within 3 years, starting next year.

among them are not only superjets, but also light multi-purpose turboprop aircraft baikal mini-171 helicopters. this will help to cover more cities and towns with a network of air tours. to increase the regularity of the volume of transportation, it is more reliable to connect the territories of siberia, the far east of the arctic zone, and other remote and hard-to-reach areas, which is also important for the development and local tourism of solving the problems of air ambulance to launch large-scale construction of sea and river transport within 5 years on the same conditions an additional 136 billion rubles will be allocated. thanks to this, the domestic shipping company will receive a total of more than 250 vessels for various purposes on lease in the next 6 years. this will greatly rejuvenate. our fleet

will increase the volume of transportation on water routes, including the use for the export of russian goods and make travel for citizens more comfortable and affordable. another document concerns support for small agribusiness, the russian agro-industrial complex is successfully developing , harvesting a good harvest and providing the country's food security and behind the external constraints business is facing rising costs. moreover, it is most difficult for enterprises with a small turnover of agricultural consumer cooperative farmer, and owners of personal subsidiary farms, to help them overcome the current difficulties by government decree. we are clarifying the conditions for the provision of a number of subsidies within the framework of the state program for the development of agriculture, the maximum size of the agro startup grant will increase to 7 million rubles. for those

entrepreneurs who independently implement projects in dairy beef cattle breeding and up to 8 million for members of agricultural consumer cooperatives who are engaged in the same activity. up to 5 million rubles agrarians who carry out other work, including growing fruits and vegetables, will also be able to receive it, and the volume of state support for agricultural consumption of cooperatives will increase to 6 million. in this domain. we are also doubling the amount of the subsidy for them to reimburse costs when purchasing agricultural products from owners of personal subsidiary farms. farms from 10 to 20 million rubles. we expect that these measures will help not only to start a business, but also to subsequently establish a surplus and processing of rural areas, new jobs will appear, and consumers will accordingly expand the choice of high-quality and affordable domestic food products, i draw your attention, the size of

the grant should not be larger lead to a reduction in the number of recipients of such forms of state support and i ask the ministry of agriculture to keep this issue under control, tracking how they help small and medium-sized agribusiness in russian subjects. another issue is that the government continues to create the necessary conditions to provide children with the opportunity to spend their free time in an interesting and educational way. we will expand the tourist program, thanks to which schoolchildren will be able to make short trips around their native land or in a neighboring region in order to get to know their history, traditions and cultural features better, while children and their parents will be able to independently choose the direction and places they would like to visit. today, forward to implementation. this is the world, one billion rubles of funds will be used to compensate for the costs of 209 russian.