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expecting in sochi next night by local standards it is very cold down to -1, possibly a little snow in the future as the cyclone approaches, the temperature will rise, and the intensity of precipitation will increase pikni. nastya according to preliminary forecasts. coming up on sunday. on this day in the spa town. it can fall from 25 to 40 mm, rain is still a wave of bad weather can cover the black sea coast on tuesday in the center of the country, the precipitation will not be so strong, but snow in moscow will fall all the coming days, intensifying by sunday in total during this time in the capital, about 8-9 mm of precipitation may fall, and snowdrifts will grow by 8-10 cm. and this is already above the usual indicators for this time, these are the forecasts for this minute.
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we'll take care of this. it will be the honest detective. but it's best to check.
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is europe ready to find out who really blew up the nord stream gas pipelines? will kiev ever be capable of peace talks? and also who benefits from telling that red book animals are dying out in russia, you know, and other issues. today i was answered by the president's special representative for environmental protection activities of ecology and transport right now with an interview by sergey ivanov. sergey borisovich hello , first of all, thank you very much for finding the time for our interior in the first place. i want to ask you about the investigative journalism of the american hersh. you are probably
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aware, you read this article about what evidence he cites that the sabotage on the nord streams was a terrorist attack, allegedly. even biden personally gave this order that america was afraid that germany would lift sanctions and it was accepted such a decision. are you familiar with this article, what do you think about it? to be honest, i don't think so. i'm sure the american administration, with the help of the norwegians, well , for obvious reasons, which are well explained, er, there was a terrorist attack against the gas pipelines. by the way, yes, this is not in our territorial waters. but this is the property of russian companies, including gazprom , first of all, this terrorist attack caused, first of all, of course, huge political damage, the world was arranged, i’m not afraid big
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words were also inflicted, they are absolutely logical the fact that the american administration is pretending that it does not notice this investigation point-blank does not see. doesn't surprise me either. but there is such a russian saying for an accident and a hat is on fire, why? i say this, if in fact the american administration had nothing to do with it. then i am absolutely convinced that, according to all the laws of the genre and gently fuck, a lawsuit would be filed, slander for many millions of dollars. this is an american any western practice of slander is prosecuted and in case of proof of slander severely punished and by the way,
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i don't see anything wrong with that, i wouldn't mind if we were tough to say what's not happening. unfortunately, but this is a lyrical digression, and since the american administration does not sue. so she understands that in the case of litigation . the cia has to testify, it could end very badly, so why leave? this once again proves that it is precisely the culprits that are clear, not only from the principle of who benefits, this is also, of course, an important principle of roman law, but also it is so clear that this is a terrorist attack entirely by the americans for fear that germany might falter. let germany destroy
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its last forests and openly mine coal and get our shale gas. yes, and it works. the main thing is that they take a firm stand, as the entire western world is the collective west in the fight against russian energies. all this, of course, is conditional. but it's there, it's politics. official america , of course, does not notice this, as if nothing had happened. event the universal noise of the announcement of the guilty before the start of even any proceedings like this. the culprit of russia
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is categorically any evidence , including documentary evidence, that russia has nothing to do with it? well, i just brush them aside. they don't even want to be considered. here's the difference. between god and let's blow up the northern stream, well, a very recent example from the field of ecology , by the way, aha , there was a disaster. all around all fish all animals died. the local population, so to speak , nothing. this means that these chemicals,
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including air, emit such a substance called. i would like to remind you, probably, many have already forgotten, that during the first world war, fasgen was the official chemical weapon. it was used on the battlefield as a chemical weapon, germany in particular now stands out. in the american media, no one talks about this. here are the airborne probes. this is this topic this topic, yes, hundreds of hours and hundreds of tons of paper and paint have already been exhausted about this this theme. and this is not a topic. now imagine for a second, what would happen if the same train accident happened in russia in my opinion, the answers would be a universal howl.
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universal scandal a meeting of the un security council to consider an extremely environmental catastrophe on the territory of the russian federation a. there’s nothing here for you, a specific example of double standards in russia, by the way, he requested a special meeting of the security council on the gas pipeline. yes, along the northern streams. do you think this will have any effect? or europe intends not to want to see. well, something that no longer even wants to see what is obvious to me is clear from the first hour after the terrorist attack. that's obvious, but for the sake of appearance there yes, they and sweden are allegedly conducting their own investigation , i emphasize, allegedly. they have already stated that everything is very secret and they will never share anything with anyone. we are not allowed to investigate at all. clearly, there is no need to be surprised. this is basically. are sinking
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after all, the whole world is not only the collective west and a number of other countries. i really hope there is a friendly state. they still will notice it and how do you tell? they will understand american politics more realistically than they do now, and also nord stream and not only yes, it seems to be not connected with the situation in ukraine with a special military operation, but
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at the same time it is part of a large political struggle connected with our country. i want to ask you. uh, what do you think now the stakes are already so high , even such attacks on infrastructure projects are already allowed, the stakes are so high in this geopolitical struggle that it's scary to think what could happen next. how you consider a special military operation, when it can end, how it can end. and how can it look like in general in the short term, how can it look like such questions, when will it end? the sooner the better is the only thing i can say, but i believe in the success of the operation. i believe that our armed forces will advance on the battlefield. i don't have any special insider information. i want to say right away, but as a former defense minister, of course i'm worried. i understand many things
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uh, i wish you success. how can i help, of course, our army. well, in force there in their modest capabilities, but you understand the operational plans, there, or conversations with the general staff, so that you plan next week, i'm not leading. that is why i am talking about this even now , information is already being revealed that the minsk agreements were only charms, that is, there is no desire, let's say, to end like this. this is the side of the fact that there is no desire with you completely, but also to weaken russia as much as possible to drag it into a long-term war. it's obvious to me completely with the help of sanctions to stifle our economy with the help of terrorist attacks to limit or completely interrupt our economic ties with the european union, which is also
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obvious in my opinion. here's another one, you know, uh, an observation. yes, the countries of the european union, uh, are , of course, following a hostile policy. and they are supplying the military not only there. they will continue to supply it, i have no doubts, because there are practically no weapons left in ukraine. here, but still , there are nuances between the various countries of the european union, we call all these countries and bent down to them there uk for example, norway which are not eu members are not friendly. in my opinion , more hostile policies towards us than a number of other
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eu countries why the baltics? well, because these are satalite mongrels, they have been someone’s satellites all their lives, if you know a little about the history of the territory of these present-day baltic states, then they were a tudan colony, then a swedish colony, then a german colony, then a russian colony, then the soviet one, so to speak. they are almost never independent, and they never were, they can't otherwise they have the whole mentality, and should not be someone's servants. and the fact that here is the statement of the baltic countries. uh, well, you understand how the hat barks, they themselves can’t do anything. mm, they are being pushed to make such extremist statements, because they themselves do not want to make them . more serious european countries and the united states entrust this to the balts. you yelp at russia
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louder. here, well, they are you, i would just not pay any attention to them, of course. reduced to zero economic relations trade transport communication. it’s just that if they were ignored, it’s not necessary to pay attention to every sneeze of some balt. just don't do it now. information technologies, the information war, are also coming to the fore, and we see this , by how often there are threats from the ukrainian authorities. hmm. just through the telegram channel. yes, not through some official ones, someone wrote something there. what do you think. in this information war , russia is keeping up with technology, you understand? see it somehow. i am not a supporter of the fact that for every sneeze for every statement or something written on the internet should be taken seriously, you don't need to do it.
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of course, you need to follow, because in this huge flow of informational garbage, maybe some kind of rational grain sometimes slips through, but the bulk is just an information war. you correctly said. well, you have to live with it, just get used to it and that's it. well, by ourselves, of course , if there is a serious reason to react, pay attention. uh, to expose the falsity in this or that information. which is exactly what we are trying to do. if you return to the northern streams, we're trying to draw the attention of the rest of the world. to this, we understand that for the west the collective is like hitting a wall with peas, what is called nothing they are doing and there will be no investigations. and we, unfortunately, won't get a trial brought down on us. i assess the situation realistically, but still pay
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attention to draw attention to this, of course, we must not remain silent about the false information that appears in the press this week. you wrote an article from komsomolskaya pravda. together with the minister of justice. chuchenko, and in a response to a publication from kommersant fm representatives, and the russian branch of the wildlife fund, where they stated that the russian authorities pay little attention to the topic of protection, and endangered red book animals, in particular the leopard and tiger. yes, they will disappear in general by 2100, but the article? well , it's kind of weird. hmm, even for a journalist, strange, because i mean, this is the original in kommersant because it only has one position. yes , if you are talking about the funds that the state spends. ask the states, but no, therefore, even for a journalist. she raises big questions. where did it even come from? information? where did this topic even
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come from? personally, this article in kommersant fm does not cause me much surprise. this is the usual typical jacket and something else here, of course, i did not stand with a candle, but i am absolutely convinced that i ordered this, like many other articles over the past 10 years, but the allegedly vigorous activity of the russian branch, which continues to study us, how we generally protect nature, how to protect in do you understand the red book? this all comes from the 1990s, when we opened the tackle, that the windows, the doors, and there, and the like , and let in not only large foreign capital. what could be good in those conditions e collapse after the collapse of the soviet union well, we let in the so-called
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teachers of mentors. who have become, according to their patterns and goals that go far beyond the framework of ecology, to teach us what to do? how can we be? how to write strategies? how to become civilized at all, because they considered us savages at the time. well, this has all continued up to the present time, but in russia it is now completely different. well, 30 years have passed and we have the resources finance and the realization that we ourselves must protect our nature, if we do not protect it, then no uncle will ever invest a penny in helping us preserve whether it is the red book or just cleanliness there, for example, baikal, there were also a lot of
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articles about the cleanliness of baikal, that it should be preserved, that it is a world heritage. really. so it's 25% came from water. what good in the future? fine? well, actually, baikal water is already being sold bottled enough, dear. and i tried baikal water, straight from the lake, i cross out the ring with the palm of my hand and tried bottled water from baikal, real, not fake, i repeat glass bottles. it is quite expensive and it is mined. there , at a depth of 400 meters. very tasty water. eh, it tastes good, i repeat, and well, the quality is absolutely pure. people buy even sometimes overpay compared to regular
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bottled water. where, by the way, is not yet the fact that it is natural. how many have been shown on tv, including your channel, how plastic bottles are poured from the tap in the basements? hmm, and by the way, it’s good that the ministry of industry, in my opinion, has made a decision, despite the opposition of a number of interested parties, that bottled drinking water should be labeled, it should be labeled, because the turnover is a shadow turnover. the funds associated with the falsification of drinking water are quite large in russia, and this must be fought and something must be done. and labeling is the most efficient way, but i digress yes, returning to your article. here it is to finish. that's for cleanliness. there
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, the greenpeaces all fought in words. and when it turned out that the whole baikal paper mill was supposed to be closed. truly the public of russian citizens, and a huge amount of waste and chemicals remained, uh, earth or underground, right next to the shore of lake baikal. no one did anything, except for the russian government, which formed a special working group and allocated billions of billions of rubles for the disposal of this waste than we are now and we are engaged in, if we talk about leopards, you are the chairman of the supervisory board, it is the far eastern leopard. what is the real situation with leopards? you, uh, in this article tell in detail about the amount of funding, the results that have been achieved, yes, the increase in uh, the number of individuals, eh, leopards and tigers. what goals can be pursued, and the vvf is publishing such false
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data. self-promotion saying that the state does nothing. and that we need billiards, we prove that billions are being spent and there is money, but speaking of the fact that nothing is being done, they are counting on the fact that naive people and naive organizations will start paying more wf because no one except them supposedly can do anything, although in fact, they just do nothing practical, they just do the most pr on sale mike s leopards selling toys plush leopards with a huge sign that it is only thanks to the vvf, in general, the far eastern leopard has been preserved. if it wasn't for them it's scary to think that it would be well, it's a hoax just a stupid hoax and a way of trying
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to earn money. well, vvf not only there, uh, not only in the story with leopards. yes, it lit up. we remember how they interfered with the olympic construction. we remember how they said that it was impossible to extract oil in the arctic and everything was in the sea, but the perfect ones were stormed. uh, platform rig he's overgrown. it's just an operation. and also when they were arrested. they sat there for some time. there were also cries of indignation in the west. how is it so innocent environmentalists? arrested the ship arrested for a while and the fact that they literally stormed platform boarding operations, when divers were working underwater. and everyone forgot it. these are small examples of what i spoke about above, about the catastrophe
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of a train, by the way, explosions of gas pipelines. there, by the way, the environmental damage was also not very large, but it was. it is approximately 30% of denmark's annual emission of carbon dioxide and methane into the atmosphere at a single moment. it is also ecological, of course, it does not affect the global climate. i have to admit it, but this is damage, including environmentally. political financial environmental damage of any kind. well, for some reason, representatives of these, let's say, western environmental organizations are always hindered by large ambitious successful russian projects. yes. the same olympics or yourself in the morgue, not only here is the last one. by the way, chukotka officially broke off all relations publicly about this . we don’t allow more than vvp to a cannon shot on the territory of chukotka.
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why because under the pretext of protecting walruses under the pretext i repeat that you are lying there? they promised there. yes, russia is developing, including the eastern section, which is directly included in about 20 miles. here are the shores along the chukchi sea. there is not, and the coast lived, well, that's what russia is developing. this is a colossal threat to walruses. according to their version, well, when the government of chukotka read all this, they went out and did everything right in russia when patience ran out. well, i hope, and i would like i do not solve these issues, but i hope that soon in the near future, but in general we understand that the economic situation the political situation has changed has the funding changed in general , the implementation of environmental programs in russia , what can you say about all
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the difficulties? the need, of course, for additional spending on a special military operation, on the impact of sanctions must also be recognized, it cannot be said that the sanctions did not affect at all. there are certain sectors of the economy, certain segments where the damage is not fatal, but it still exists. so with all this, the budget is 23 years old. how were 200-80 billion rubles. for environmental programs russia and stand. what hasn't changed? well, i would like to recall the words of the president during our last meeting, quite recently in february, he, addressing me, said that despite all the known difficulties , the problems have enduring values. and one of them is the environment. and that we will not
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reduce the focus on solid, such as the path and adherence to the green agenda and our plans to reduce emissions of harmful substances into the atmosphere. everything remains in place. all the same programs clean water, clean volga and clean air in cities where the atmosphere is really leaves much to be desired. here but with all this, i do not forget to always say. that thanks to our vastness, thanks to our forests in the first place, which must be protected, of course, and fight fires and clearings, here i have a completely uncompromising position. here with more. and fox and steppes and swamps and tundra, they absorb carbon dioxide. and
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if you take it roughly, i can't with numbers in my hands right now. we are doing this to prove it scientifically, but i am already convinced that russia is still environmental donor of the planet, because we absorb more carbon dioxide than we ourselves have it. that is, we absorb foreign carbon dioxide. and unfortunately we do not receive any material dividends for this. what you need to think about, do you think in the future this will somehow be considered a sakhalin pilot project program? and sakhalin by december 31 , the twenty-fifth year, it is not so long left. that is, it will imitate, no more than absorb, but sakhalin

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