tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 February 17, 2023 9:00pm-9:30pm MSK
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european politicians continue to bake someone else's voice. their action can be explained by anything, but not by the interests of the european citizens themselves, but one can also recognize the obvious fact that europe cannot be an independent player in the international arena as long as the us occupation troops have been on its territory since the second world war, american bases are forcing european politicians to be accommodating. yes, europe has lived well in recent decades under the american nuclear umbrella, but you have to pay for everything, including oblivion crimes of the same anglo-saxons on
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the european continent for example, this week was another anniversary of the destruction of the german city of dresden by the british royal air force without military necessity. it was an act of intimidation of the german people. even if he supported the nazis then, nevertheless , once again, i repeat, there was no military need to destroy dresden. operation thunderbolt, as a result of which in february forty -fifth the american british air force was practically wiped out from the face of the earth. dresden was originally planned as finally the destruction of berlin but plans changed before the war in the capital of saxony, about 650,000 people lived in the forty-fifth, already about 2 million . there were almost no refugees from industrial enterprises of military plants, but for the huge number of historical and cultural monuments , dresden was called florence on the elbe from february 13 to 15 three raids were made on dresden, in which about one and a half thousand bombers participated and up to a thousand fighters were dropped on the head of the inhabitants
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more than 5,000. tons of ammunition. first, high-explosive bombs tore the roofs off the houses, then incendiaries destroyed everything inside the bombing of dresden by the american british air force became one of the most brutal of the entire war the city was turned into ruins about 80% of urban development destroyed cultural monuments were damaged, almost burned down. 200 without valuable paintings from the dressen gallery, the number of dead is still unknown, according to various estimates from 25 to 200,000 people. interestingly, the german public somehow recalls these events, but does the public of hungary, poland, the czech republic , slovakia remember how many hundreds of thousands of soviet soldiers could have survived if the soviet command had acted by british methods, budapest prague in its current form largely remained thanks to, uh, at the end of the second world war, thanks to the lives of our soldiers, i'm not talking about the polish city of krakow, which the germans were supposed to completely
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destroy also without military necessity. and if the hope that this is the most european public finally understands that russia is not a threat, we will talk about this and much more and now we will talk with the new acting permanent representative of russia under the european union, and kirill is a login, and kirill mikhailovich, hello. hello, you know, i don't know if you heard my previous story about dresden and about the public? ah and uh, well, let's talk about this a little bit later, and now a lot of information is leaking to the press a statement from european politicians about the tenth anniversary package of sanctions, so to speak , and it seems that on monday the european commission is going to approve to discuss again and so further. and what do you think, they will still accept it in the near future, although, there
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there are disagreements among the europeans, and they will be accepted in the near future, this is the tenth package. thank you. well, i'll start with the fact that the decision that the tenth package will be e output when the previous ninth was agreed, so here it is already so to say e to go already, what is called some more, really everything is a little strange, because, despite as it were rightly said, there are definitely disagreements between the member countries, but it was decided that the package should definitely see the light of day the day before and money on the anniversary of the start of a special military operations. and now yes, the work is built. so ah, on monday the twentieth , there will be a regular meeting of the eu foreign affairs councils and ministers. foreign affairs. they will have to, uh, agree, so to speak, and those fruits that remain. and there is, if something else remains, then, apparently
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, it will be submitted on wednesday, when the acquisition of the eu countries is here. well, again , the deadline is february 24th. la, so once again there will be nowhere to go. ah, how do you assess the situation? uh, inside the european union because, uh, after all hungary croatia they make some statements that seem to have some kind of sober basis, they say, well , maybe you need to somehow change your mind, maybe you don’t need such huge, but such huge help, you provide ukraine and so on. still, these sound voices in europe, as far as they are now theoretically in your opinion, can have some kind of support for the continuation. well , let's start with what we always say from the alpine union. yes, in fact it is called yesian sanctions, but these are sanctions that are agreed upon, and which are adopted by consensus and
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all 27 euros of the capitals agreed to them. eh, the situation. that's it, here's the tenth package. according to the previous package, we also exhibited the work that the european commission gives its proposals, and winds up the representatives of the member countries who are sitting here in brussels . other areas in this new package. but you and i must understand that and now, an anti-russian campaign in the european union is, in principle, what the european union and the european union live by there are a lot of problems, challenges, threats, and he struggled with the consequences of the pandemic and now the european institute. strange members, they just mobilized on an anti-russian basis , you know, therefore, in current situations. that is, even if some european capital has some suspicions
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, so to speak, it will still have to remain silent, because now the most important thing is that no one sees any crack in the euro-centricity, and unfortunately, this is a fact. well, you mentioned. uh, a number of countries. there are probably a few more countries. yes indeed their national the government they rather boldly. and in modern times, this is really the courage of groups , political courage openly, but declares that, in general, and these sanctions they hit on, uh, the economies of these countries, but nothing more. i am kirill mikhailovich. another topic is the taking of our property, our money. and this is not european money. this is money that would not have been lost, that was put aside for the future. uh, we are all citizens of russia, and now they want to rob us of these 300 billion, at least plus private investment. people let's
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assume they're all honest money earned such a condition, and here we carry. eh, nonetheless. it is a fact. it was russian citizens who, on a legal basis, withdrew money to europe, bought real estate there, and so on, now, without trial or investigation, they want to bring some of them under the general ones. yes, these are all to blame, because the russians, because they are from russia, and so on. and how likely is it, because literally today there was another statement from the european commissioner. and the next one who says you still need to take everything away. how do you think they will find consensus, although here are some sound notes, the same swiss. while they find objective reasons for the seizure of the private property of russian citizens, well, switzerland is switzerland, but still another europe. do you think they will take away the money? well, uh, let's not guess whether they will take it away , but here everyone understands perfectly well that there are no legal uh prerequisites for taking these u funds or
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there, especially for transferring confiscated funds to ukraine, but in fact, you are right . yes, these are stolen ah, russian assets. uh, of course not, if it's about assets of the central bank of russia, then in accordance with generally recognized norms of international law. they enjoy immunity from any e executive years. as far as the property of russian citizens is concerned, yes. now they sat down painfully thinking about various, but legal grounds for and their weaning, for example, and one of the ideas is to criminalize. and a violation. uh, if the sanctions, yes, that is, if someone a violates the eu sanctions, then, accordingly , his, and the money, respectively, can finally go away. here, but here's another one
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the moment is very interesting, that, in general, the european union, until recently , was very strong. eh, against. e. that's what would u hmm uh these restrictive measures they u be applied equatorially. yes, and because indeed it is contrary to international law. but here it is to russia for some reason. this is the principled position of the european union, it has disappeared somewhere. and although this, in principle, is indeed a colossal blow to international law. this is a blow to the image in europe between the eu here. well, in principle, i repeat once again, this is outright theft. and so well let's do it for now, that's probably more so to say. this kind of pressure is also on uh, us. well, definitely. we will cope with this, well, the plus is the creation of an additional anti-russian
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information background. e in the countries of the european union, because once you start talking about this weaning, and so on. you, in principle, are preparing public opinion for the fact that, yes, russia is the main danger. their main threat, in principle, here all means are good, because the main task, like a, we have repeatedly heard, is including the leadership of the european union is to inflict a strategic defeat on russia. and how will it be done. and that's another question, so to speak. but kirill mikhailovich is a question that the european authorities are probably asking themselves more and more often, and in any case in france, they are trying to do this . and do the european authorities understand what a trap the friendship of the united states has led them into? i mean these relationships and brussels washington but still, but it is clear that the europeans are dancing to the tune of the americans there are
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bases that i have already said many times. we we talk about it anyway. eh, nevertheless there was a time when the europeans. uh, well, it's not like the united states didn't listen at all, but i mean, it's the seventies, the so-called détente . and this is just the beginning of the seventies mid-seventies, when they went to the gas pipes. we began to trade in gas, and so on and so forth, but this helsinki act of the seventy-fifth year friendship world of friendship is chewing gum, as before, but now there is a possibility that this is the subjectivity of europe, it is somehow, at least, like you will partially emerge in relation to ocean partners. well, i don't know, maybe it's what i'm set to call. in general, i represent the russian federation. i believe that i mean this. well, you initially made a short digression into history, we can continue it, that, in general, both the marshall plan and the
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creation of nato are all an american project. yes and uh, you know, the question is, when was all this supposed to go off? yes, not necessarily from how to correctly mention it, there the detente of the seventies is not necessarily that europeans, but all my life should have followed, but the americans, but what was laid down by the americans, then, again, at the beginning they said org. uh, the basic law of germany, he wrote to you, at least the process was controlled, and the americans were political and party. uh, german funds. this, in general, was also created with the help of the americans. i'm not talking about funds. mass media, which is also, that is, in germany is largely controlled by the americans. why didn't it interfere? do you currently understand? this is what the americans need right now yes, one hundred percent submission. we remember, that a few years ago there were talks about the strategic autonomy of the european union. when
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a new one appeared. uh, the european commission had talks that it would be a geopolitical european commission, these talks are not now, in principle, uh, i don't think there are any grounds for the europeans. now we have revised this attitude. why because they really fell into a trap. they fell into a trap, not only in relations with the americans. they got into the plan. ah , putting pressure on our country. how from this no one knows the situation to go out here, in principle, they have really lost their sense of reality. what is it, what is really happening, returning to the package, you understand? here, no one is doing real analyzes now, to what extent it is allowed for the economy , the socio-economic situation of the european union and its member countries, that is, now you just need to take uh and follow this path to achieve your goal at any cost. that is, yes. it's such
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a stubbornness. uh, there is little to explain, therefore , in principle, it suits everything, of course americans. eh yes. uh, speaking of relations with washington. there is also an economic dimension, that is, the economy of the european union is now experiencing police high inflation, of course, all this, but for the benefit, but for the benefit of the americans. eh, well, you and i it would seem yes, there must be some logical explanation. why do this? he is not here now. and i think because now the europeans are in such a state of panic. yes, if politicians, then they are now ready to wait it all out again. yes, they let everything go according to the tune washington here but they are afraid to go out now, if under his umbrellas, because then they definitely failed. that is, they do not have this feeling that they will withstand this pressure, which, by and large, is on themselves, which they created in the first place.
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e because of the future sanctions against our country and their consequences for the european union and for the world economy. well, yes, kirill mikhailovich , it seems that they act on the principle of dying first. and then i have this feeling, apparently they simply do not have logic in their actions. and, nevertheless. they are in these difficult conditions, about which you just said they are talking about the expansion of the eu, and there is a lot of talk about what they can theoretically accept at an accelerated pace. well, first of all, ukraine, of course, we are talking about, but there is moldova and so on. ah. this is also a serious topic in europe is not discussed. as i understand it, there is a certain political understanding that no one will be accepted quickly, this is a hedgehog. clearly, this is such a carrot, in front of the donkey, which they constantly make it, so that in ukraine, uh, people of something waited. this is clear, but nevertheless, there is some internal discussion. why do we need new members? we are barely old here, we can serve at the level
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at which there was a subsidy from poland , germany has all these problems well, and so on, the baltic countries have already experienced the charms themselves, and hmm, with russia when they refuse our energy sources and so on? anyway , here's how things stand in your opinion. well, what are the conversations? well, look, perhaps, before answering the question. i want to say yes. you asked this question with point of view, probably, a simple european, yes, a european man in the street. here are the european inhabitants. eh, i probably would have asked, yes, it ’s so hard there now. why expand, then in the european man in the street now no one asks on any issue. you remember that here not so long ago , well, the so-called conference on the future of europe was held throughout the european union. yes, there should have been a survey, in general, the entire population of the european union created the path of some kind of working groups, and so on and so forth. that should have been accepted, and the recommendations european institutions. everything has faded. everything
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is over. now no one here is sitting down interested in asking the opinion of ordinary europeans. and this is the first second. uh , the process of admission, uh, new members of the european union, how can i tell you? it, in principle, has lost its original meaning, that is, it is originally, but still a. he conceived the process as an integration one. yes, that is , the new member countries, they expressed their e desire to join a single space with the free movement of people's goods, and services, e, capital, here harmonization of legislation and so on and so forth. now, uh, the expansion processor is simply politicized by far and, in general, this is also about this in his question. they said that if we talk about ukraine, uh, moldova and georgia, uh, in principle, now these are the criteria that used to be, but for the advancement, as we say in the euro,
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they did not ask for a track for the hydrostructure. they don't make any sense. yes, that is now in the first place. this is the degree, but of loyalty and the level of signaling with the external political decisions of the european union, that is in fact, in every country there is a percentage there , you don’t reach 50. and there 60 already well done 87 is great, but the truth is that the european union itself has also been driven into a big trap. he is now demanding from all of them a fairly high level of this percentage, but you understand that now most of the decisions of the european union in general, in principle, are these piggy banks of these decisions. this is a decision that is connected with russia and with anti-russian sanctions. that is, already obviously herbs that just want to be, so to speak, part of the european family of the same the church just tritely forces her to sign anti-russian sanctions. that's what today is, and the process, and the expansion of uh, well,
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last year in the twenty-second. yes, as you remember, there was such a distribution, and statuses , which means the status, e, the candidate received ukraine and the distribution of cookies, and such peculiar virtual ones. well, yes, like you know there, in my opinion, more, as if they were probably talking more for themselves. because well, these cookies distributed these cookies well there, but, frankly, nothing further no won't move. yes, that is, uh, here it is already clear that they just handed out and handed out, that is, one sounded out the status means georgians, which means the status of a potential candidate. then it means that everyone else felt offended, which means they gave the green color to albania and north macedonia for uh, the opening of uh, these uh negotiations. e. at the entry into the european union, then by the end of the year even more herzegovina became another candidate. well, that's all, in principle,
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there is a process on this, and a, as it were, will stop, because in practical plane. that is, he will definitely not pass, and it’s one thing for someone to say so, this status is another matter of entry, that is, yes, we have just heard all these slogans in context. here are the events there in kiev. you know, ukraine is there at an accelerated pace. he says anything is possible, because at the stage its expansion is still valid. it will be necessary for the european institute and the european migration institute and so on. and that in general it will come out sideways. and those who are now in power in the european union and the member countries, if they have such a discussion, uh, in the public space, that is one more time. and, perhaps, all these graduate students, they will hang out in this subject , maybe for decades, and hmm, the main thing is that there are no specific obligations on the part of the criminals. no, that is, will you ever be with us? well, great. here. do you
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understand that for these countries, really, how would it be their music? yes, relatively speaking, during the elections and so on, everyone is discussed. these are the operating processes of the intersections. well, how do you understand absolutely? i don't think there will be any time. well of course. morning affairs, they interest us only in the context and we have something to do in these conditions. how do you see the situation. hey, we're still in business. it is understandable that trade turnover is curtailing. the european union was once the main partner of our foreign trade . and now he has lost this status and there are apparently no signs that this issue will somehow be restored. i think it's worth it. uh, maybe you'll correct me about maintaining at least some economic ties. let indirectly through intermediaries. uh, there's actually quite a lot going on right now, surgery. europeans buy our goods and services. eh, well, through intermediaries. here. and as you can see, this process will
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continue and further or still. uh, there's a chance that at least some of the restrictions will be lifted in the future, if the circumstances permit. well let's probably not distinguish himself from the end of your question. i am a bit of an optimist in my life, but in some kind of european yassensky sanctions about all these ten packages. i think they'll go for the fact that here's some kind of perspective review, so that, uh, it's revisited, again. here you just need to understand that let's even. if something will want. they revise from the package will be here is the tenth package. to do this , you will need to hide the entire package. you see, titan, if someone opens the package, maybe you can take the first package in three tenths of the package, then further, in principle, you are hiding this package somewhere, this does not mean that the provisions of this package are being revised. it will be precisely in the direction of measuring these events
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that those member countries can also be active. and how of them which will, but act in favor of, on the contrary, stuffing something else into this package, or vice versa, a little bit of it. of course, there is still such an option as an explanation of the european commission, you probably heard about it, that is, the package is being dealt with, and then, respectively, since it is not the european union that implements it, but from foreign members who agreed on this package, then if there are any then questions, then, uh, the european commission clarifies the package, and prisons. mihajlovic package package next. it's very cool. everything is hung on a strange penis. that is, you remember, i said that the idea is what should be in the package. it goes from the european commission further, it is accepted by strange forces. so it's their headache. how to experiment with this? with regard to us , you don’t have to go far kaliningrad transit because when the e was accepted, the package, which also included a, had
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negative consequences only for the leningrad transit. all member countries agreed two remained silent. well, okay. anyway, he kept silent. here, and no one sat down in the euroset at all about it. i didn’t think, i didn’t bother to look at the price of the double-sided documents that we have in the wrong place. uh, both with lithuania on the part of a member of the european union and with the european union , for example, kaliningrad transit and it turned out that something that was not stuffed into the package in contradiction to these documents. after that , clarifications were sent, but on whom were these clarifications hung up and how to implement them correctly in lithuania and thus change them. now it turns out that this is a question of russian-lithuanian relations. although really. sorry the eu has to bear responsibility for those, but not earned documents, which he signs in this case, e with the russian federation, so i honestly do not think that these packages will be revised. yes, we can say that each time it is more and
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more difficult to fill them, but you understand. that's even on the upcoming tenth. i wouldn't post too many posts here. especially here today. and what? it went in, what didn't go in? you understand again, uh, all these publications, what didn't come in? do you understand that this is a certain informational pressure on participants. uh, ministerial meeting on monday. that's definitely it. there, of course, there will be a big fight. moreover, the fight will most likely be between those who will argue that the package is rather weak and those who will say that it is not. we, therefore, will not give up some sectors, for example. but this does not mean that the second category will not be pressed next time, and i draw this conclusion . based on the packets that were received, you remember what happened in the first and second e, and it seemed. here's whatever relatively speaking, there is some kind of ninth eighth, then at first. i couldn't even imagine that it would be like this. everyone thought that these are the countries
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to which it is more concerned. eh, they will stand tight and this is not acceptable. well , alas, while the trend is such that, in general, so to speak. here all this will continue and the ventilation pressure and the secondary increase. yes, kirill mikhailovich it seems that standing to death is not in the power of the current european authorities about this. we just talked about it a lot. we understand this very well, no less, but the situation is we are neighbors , we will somehow have to communicate, and here, of course, it also falls on you for your work on your mission. a lots of work lots of responsibility. i wish you success and good luck in this work. let's get out of reality. that's why we hope that someday the truth will prevail and everything will be explained to you , thank you so much for taking the time to give us this interview, let me remind you. we spoke with kirill login, and his permanent representative
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of the russian federation to the european union. and now let's get back to where we started today's issue of the situation on the fronts of the special military operation about what is happening in the kherson region, a report by mikhail andronik. the calculation of the fighters with enemy drones takes the position of the route of ukrainian drones, which is known in advance, there is a magnification on the sight and then you increase the magnification and find and shoot everything first, the operators determine by ear where the enemy quadrocopter is flying. then he is captured and already actually held and planted. there are two notches on this gun
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the drone is planted unmanned aerial vehicles are actively used by both sides, mainly for adjusting artillery fire or for reconnaissance, including searching for or exploding ammunition or planted explosive devices with a special hook with a cat, engineers of the national guard pull off an anti-tank minute found on one of the field roads in the fact that the enemy sometimes goes to the trick, you can establish the position by lining. explosive devices and unexploded shells, sappers, if possible, take them to a special training ground and destroy the letter look, what a beautiful one. with the russian flag of russia at the forefront of the war, they consider letters from the inhabitants of our country to be especially touching from little dasha from moscow, we repeatedly receive touching drawings with letters. we
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started to get interested. who is drawing this? it seemed like a girl. dasha, she doesn't have one right hand, but she tries very hard. i want to express my deep gratitude to her. dasha you are smart. we really like your drawings and the song you write to us. how we win words of support from all over our large country are received daily by military personnel who perform tasks in the zone of the special military operation , children's drawings can be found literally in every dugout and everyone understands why they are here now mikhail andronik alexander malyshev to lead the kherson region. after a short advertisement of our broadcast
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