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they died in battles against our country. well, there's nothing against you, even this one. in general, the way it is. we didn't kill them like uh the nazis in the camps or somewhere else. they died in battle why come up with something? you can recall some common victories, once in the russian empire there was a separate finnish army of the grand duchy of finland. that was the heroic defense of the unfinished fortress. on borman island , you can install other pages about when the mass executions took place the russian-speaking population of finland during the finnish civil war and the dismantling of the memorial were taken with hostility. it's a mood radicalization with a special military operation and so on and so forth and so on. well, well, the finnish side does not consider itself allies, and
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the researchers in russia surprised the third reich as brezhn, intentionally or just in a hurry , this monument was erected by the finns, they submitted data and it turned out that there were errors. they did not accurately indicate the number of those buried there, so they made a mistake in the names and surnames. uh, geographically they didn’t exactly place this monument, that is, they didn’t bother with the question. well , they didn’t really care about the issue of holding it or doing it in 2013 to place it on this territory. a corresponding seminar of the finnish side was held in st. petersburg. this is how military burials should be dealt with within the legal framework of more than two states, people who know this still remained. deboa get lost is the largest russian necropolis abroad with more than 5,000 graves and 15,000 names. rank of
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russian alley overgrown with wooden crosses in sensational article lemont, and an indefinite future cemetery, the russian part was called looking. like a forest where few people come for a walk, but this is a common situation for russian cemeteries, where trees and bushes are planted flowers and this is a little different from how a french cemetery is made. pelev has been living in france for a quarter of a century, you need to come here, you need to correct it. that which the wind overturned. replace flowers who is buried here? it cannot be said that the situation is catastrophic, but the fact that we paid attention once again to this cemetery is, ok good. since 2005, she regularly
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pays for the rent of ownerless plots for aliyah. the municipality is responsible for the entire space between the graves, and the family of the deceased is responsible for the state of affairs. uh, a family buys a concession for a certain number of years and after the expiration of the concession. it is necessary to renew it again to pay for some of the graves that have been lost here. uh , heirs or people did not have descendants or they lost contact, so these graves were taken under the care of the russian states in france a lot, where else in europe if rent burials do not renew it is demolished on the fence a message that the city identifies areas whose leases have glass signs indicating the need to extend the concession on some tombstones, but descendants, but this is a minimum of 2 years. kursk merchants here, next to the russian senile
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house, have kept emigrants since 1927. the grave of the greats is promised by tourists and fans. there are traditions to bring. e to the monument to tarkovsky , their work left video cassettes further. i saw a dvd here, uh, filmed hmm film director here lies a wreath from the city hall sanitary engineer deba on the grave of rudol fonarieva, uh, this is probably the most famous of our compatriots, buried in sanjaev, the two most famous for the french. here rests ivan bunin the bard. you see alexandra and serebshkovsky writer viktor nekrasov on his tombstone, and there is a fragment of a shell that he brought from stalingrad to this whole complex, as he has a maiden cemetery in moscow, the status of a historical monument. this is the main
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attraction of the gorodok. but separately , the graves really need a lot of care. here this, unfortunately, is not, uh, not a rare case when the grave is either forgotten, or by descendants, or there are no descendants left. for 18 years, russia played the steering wheel of descendants on behalf of absent families, paid for the ends of the list of farm graves to the embassy, officials reported. now the guards are frozen and warning signs on twenty-three for storage sometimes. then uh demolishes them and the ashes are transferred to osvai. uh, but this cemetery is classified as a historical monument and as a historical, as a natural one here such, uh, tough measures tough for us for france, let's say. so this is a common situation such a threat. such a threat,
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he doesn't stand very, very tough. she is under the supervision of e and the russian-speaking community and e. diplomatic representatives of the russian federation, the mayor's office is not in the mood to demolish it, lose it or go to some kind of conflict around it. i think that the situation with the current non-acceptance of funds for concessions from the russian federation will be resolved. uh, well, when the situation calms down and uh, and the restoration will continue here and the cemetery will remain and will be. maintain your monument status. journalist elena kondratyeva from elghero is sure the decision of the mayor's office with the engineer de boa - this is a purely ideological gesture, in none of the official communites - it was not
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commented at all. that is, after an article in lemon, which, uh, one can also say with pleasure, added fuel to the fire , one gets the impression that uh is the most politically correct world of the city. eh, it's very easy to check. go to the city hall website. look who's some kind of interesting mayor there. eh, composition. uh, here's the municipality. she. i don't even think i costs. eh, them to describe it all. they will tell everything for themselves. and there it is clear that this initiative was not only a single one, but also simply, uh, made for the purpose of, you know, i would say such psychological terror. why, look how they do this to you, all over the planet russian fleas right up to the grave separately, taking. thu city hall no one in france supported the initiative left without comment, except for the russian press russian pagans. you will not find any responses,
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because, in fact, such a person does not comment on this at all self-respecting people i will not comment on this. and by the way, speaking of the grave, here is a soldier in france in the same way u you will see the grave and the german soldiers in the military cemeteries that led to both the first and second world wars and so far there have never been any problems with this. i don’t think that the burial of russian soldiers and the expeditionary corps, and everything in general, these thousands of russian burials, will ever be called again. whatever the complaint. writer alexander zhivokov was born in paris, his ancestors after 917, and settled in turkey then in france but he retained his language in the third generation and vera now he is the headman who gathered alexander nevsky in paris in the past he served in
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the ministry of internal affairs of the ministry of internal affairs with. he didn’t eat, de boa ’s place and his memory, dad iman there for the kings grandparents, that is, parents too. and i served about 25 of the naval assembly. and, of course, many, many former russian officers. also like many relatives of microbes, a very important place to understand the history of migration in france alexander belinsky, who was a widower known in the ballet code, was killed by the germans. this is what you might not recognize to me, but this is me, and far away, this is sergei lev, the book was written for the french of russian origin, but who had long been assimilated, so much needed to be explained by debts and thought that they
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had some kind of grandfathers or grandmothers those are very important people. many had a clue. yes , from what happened, which was not at all more correct, so there was already all this clarified. here for this reason. i'm somehow uh dug, in the archives of his grandfather, the military son of a rear admiral, and in exile he became a porter, then a taxi driver a personal driver is easier, it was in the end, including that workers uh, russian officers were considered capable and, of course, they were against the communists and against the trade unions, that is, they did not find themselves in hypocrites. that's the course for the french enterprise. it was very positive. you gave the example of taxi drivers, of course, this is a very famous example. well, there are no more than five hundred taxi drivers in paris after all. ah, uh at the factory, well, there were more 5.000. here and approximately. well, this is not
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an example of such great examples, in the same situation, most people never. they were very cheerful very, very pain. i was not prepared by much effort. here. yes, something they had, you can say a double day, they lived in french. in order to bring back the memory of such small people of immigration, as they were called, michel manago created an interactive map of the necropolis. in neveve de boa itself , you can find your ancestors in the electronic catalog and here in english, russian and french, and we can do a search by the number of the grave according to the area in which the person was occupied. i start typing a few letters of the surname monaco, all
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people with this surname appear in my search. near michel himself, 15 ancestors and mother marianna grün are buried. berman a biochemist and the first woman president of the french academy of sciences, moreover, the first of russian origin, and here, next to his mother pierre cardin, he sewed for her just a suitberg who took this position in france, the whole family left petrograd. this is my great-grandfather. julius he was, manager in st. petersburg publishing house marx published many russian writers there, and also published the famous literary magazine niva . on the map of the necropolis, michel and his team described more than 11,000 burials, but restore and describe all the biographies in such detail, as in the case of his large famous family. bye. it is unlikely that one of the difficulties that we encountered will be the spelling of russian names of french transcription. i often
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remember the anecdote about the tenor philippe zherouski, when his ancestor came to france, he did not know a word of french and when asked how his name is, he answered. i am russian, so the surname stuck to him. i'm russian or i'm russian in the french way. narrow right glorious and their task is to catalog. and that means to save everything that can be saved there from the point of view of the french government - this cemetery is the same as the eiffel tower or the arc de triomphe. and, of course, there is a desire to restore these burials, but the problem is that the responsibility for the condition of the graves in france lies at 7:00. here we are now going to the city of paris, where there was
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a fairly significant russian diaspora. moreover, she has been there for a long time since the 19th century in france, the association of russian pas. mind he studies russian and soviet burials. first world second in this place. near paris there was an old man's house and a hospital, the grave of russian soldiers who died from the russian lord who was in the first world war. here uh. you see, they erected such a chapel, apparently, immigration built it, because they didn’t find any documents even how many soldiers. it was possible to rewrite more than three hundred russian surnames buried here, military civilian famous nights most often completely unknown novikov georgy savich cossack figures participated in the civil war, a member of the cossack union, the grave of boys, very modest crosses and merged
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tablets with the names of destruction. demolishes here was a whole ayat of wooden crosses. you see it's been taken down. here is an open field. these two graves were put up with some new crosses, apparently, relatives were found. out flock, i'm rotten. and this was the whole reaction of russian graves now. now he is gone . most of all, you are lucky to have graves that he is in foreign military cemeteries in civilian ones. german or your frenchman - it doesn't matter. this is not due to some malice, because, well, europe is a small land is small, if not demolished, it will occupy. there are cities with an area of paris with engineering goa, which is yes, under the control of russia, they pay some for storage, but in other places this is not, that is, work. it is, in fact, from the side
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of the axis, just at some initial stage, that is, they, plus it is very bony. uh, very difficult french bureaucracy, it’s hard to say after all, uh, to go through, especially when if in question is a foreign country in france scattered. he is the burial place where the soldiers of the first world russian expeditionary force of the soviet wars are buried and not all necropolises are in good condition. now there are no more permanent concessions, rent for half a century costs no more than 1.000-1500 euros, a little, but if we are talking about one grave, not hundreds. i'm the only way out. i see that it is possible to do this, to create a single fraternal common burial of all the people who are buried here, so that they are not somewhere where these graves are divided. here we have collected some in one place. and there put one common monument and write the names of sex. buried here in general, the european trend, of course, is to protect military burials. true, between our two countries. there are no such agreements to help a patron from russia and in france itself the same
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enthusiasts. we have a lot of french associations, we have more french than our compatriots who are related to this, u think that it is their honor, uh, in order to preserve, uh, traces of russian emigration and in france as a military, first of all, very because the people who fought for france died for france, then somehow france must be given some part of it. moscow vvedenskoye cemetery at site number nine legendary french memorial a meter from the mass grave of napoleonic soldiers allies pilots of the normandy regiment neman pilot bruno de faltan and mechanic sergei astakhov died in the same plane, both russians and french are united here, despite the fact that they were enemies here soldiers who reached moscow and died at the hands of the partisans or from hunger and diseases and here they are together, and this monument
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for many pilots in france and russia is a symbol of the greatest friendship during world war ii from the french ambassador, and formally repairing the burial place made the interested country take care of the military burial. it's minimum. why can you follow you know in france there is a cemetery and english germans from the first world war, how these countries maintain their graves up to millimeters clean, carry out ceremonies? well, for the french, but this is so with this culture the course of the complicated head of the fund for the development of russian-french historical initiatives since last year, he has russian citizenship and the important thing is to restore the memory of the fallen and missing warrior, the search for the remains of general gudin, an ally of napoleon, he died near smolensk 812, and 2 years ago, his found
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ashes were buried with honors in the house disabled in paris foundation. pierrot led another expedition in the wake of napoleon's retreat. so the remains of about 130 french and russian soldiers were discovered and buried in vyazma on a regular basis to look for the bodies of the dead soldiers of the napoleonic army and i am supported by russia in the face of the russian government, archaeologists , journalists and, for example, this year. we will launch the first major historical project between russia and france in borodino borodino is a symbol that everyone knows for you, this is a victory. for me, too, escape. so despite the difficulties. it seems like an ideal collaboration, but if 812 in france is studied and known largely thanks to tolstoy, then the memory in the 21st century has become short of a very famous pilot from normandy dumb. and so they write to me. and you are not ashamed
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to continue to deal with russia, even they, but i answer your fathers and grandfathers fought on the same side with russia, it was a regiment of allies. this is not good, but i cannot change the mentality of people, the modern descendants of the great french of the time of napoleon are very open today, the grandchildren and children of the living of the first and second world wars live in the modern propaganda agenda of france. well, and so on. so that there is no military burial and cemeteries, neither in europe nor in russia do they make an object bargaining or an instrument of blackmail, but soviet memorials in the countries of the former ex-slave. increasingly vandals desecrate the authorities in romania. we went even further when agreeing on work for this year for 2023. they refused to carry out repairs. and to us, accordingly, this information was received by him, we will also not carry out work for him on the territory of russia, but we will carry out care work, both romanians on the territory of romania and we on
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the territory of russia to the marshal. konev. in prague in 2020 aggravated relations with other memorable led the signs in czech. in russia, many did not even realize that for several years in a row a society of czech legionnaires. with the support of the ministry of defense of the czech republic , the 40,000-strong corps was established on our territory from the beginning of the first world war from czech and slovak prisoners of war and colonists. and in 918 , our stories regarding the white czechs had a considerable influence on the course of the civil war. and in general the number of the latsk region. she describes them. well, in general, the most negative aspects. and in general, well such a local detachment of the ussr, yes, if we compare it with something, that is, it is their radio operator. you murder for them is a very important historical moment, that is, the process of chekhov's return to his homeland. uh, it
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was something like that for a long time, agonizing, yes, that is how they describe this situation. we would be ready to go across the front. if we were allowed to, that is, they are conditional. yes , vladivostok has stretched out and murzik is a frantishek or mursik, as uh also denotes him. this is the czech legionnaire who is indicated on this monument, like a fallen uh, but in fact, this man went over to the side of the soviets and fought against his own comrades, one can say. one of these memorials has been standing in penza for 8 years 918. here the white-czech rebellion took place, about three hundred people of the city died, and historians consider the uprising itself the detonator of the civil war questions to this monument are many of the sixty-seven names indicated. here, only 14 people once died, uh, in battles for the city, penza
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, all other people are included in this list, to put it mildly, in vain, because there are dead, but killed themselves and did not reach their unit, including from the city of kirov, that is, from nine 900 km from penza, that is , people who have nothing to do with this monument and, accordingly, with those historical events that once then the program took place here. legion with russia, but only 16 were installed due to the indignation of local residents, for example, in samara, commemorative signs did not appear for czech legions - this is such a completely superficial artificial political history, just from some seven minute political considerations of the nineties are absolutely alien here to the population of those cities of the localities in which they tried to erect these monuments. yes, what a monument went to konev in prague. it was a monument to the savior, a monument that led
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his troops, and generally stopped and won the last major battle of world war ii in europe thanks to. why did the enemy survive, like a city and put on the same level. here is a monument to the liberator and monuments to the human region, which here simply, well, in modern terms, solved their problems. problems after the demolition of the monument. which one in the midfield the czechs hinted at. this is a response to the fact that legion 100 was paused in russia. in penza , they wrapped up the arch. here in such a banner, but they did not allow the dismantling of war monuments. this thing is stupid. and we, from our point of view , of course, should not be like the czechs. however , information about who these people who are indicated on this monument really are. still, there should be some kind of information stand and so on, wherever it was stated. the same information about those people whom the czech authorities recorded the heroes of the cucumber bank.
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relationships, like on the grave of the dancer sergei, a person born in kiev in the russian empire, uh, who spoke russian uh, is buried in france, everything is nearby felix yusupov, one of the organizers of the murder of rasputin, white and red cadets and heroes. resistance after death found freedom to be equal among equals here they lie all together. this is some kind of symbol of russia, i don’t know, a symbol of calm, a symbol of peace, a symbol of how delusional, uh, conflicts of bloodshed and how in the end. uh, by the course of history some kind of peaceful page opens, and after numerous conflicts of disputes, and the fact that this symbol must be kept, in spite of any odious statements by the mayor in france , of course, they understand the old. we
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