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lucky even for those who are unlucky money from tinkoff apartments from the group plane travel from the fan, san and millions of other prizes under application stickers. this is our weekly interview on the russia 24 channel, the church program, and where we communicate with representatives of the russian orthodox church about the current, and the news that has happened in
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russia in the world over the past weeks. today. at bogdan vladimirovich, deputy chairman of the department of the russian orthodox church for relations between the church , society and the media, hello i’m glad to see you, i wanted to start with one, but then such fresh news arrived that the economic day of kiev obliged to free the site of the national museum of the history of ukraine from illegally built temple. uh, we're talking about a building. as i understand it , the tithe monastery of the ukrainian orthodox church. tell me what this is. hmm what is the story with illegal construction and do i understand correctly that in general, now some other legislative norms are being tightened by the ears in order to have a justification. well, to expel, as it were , the canonical church of the places occupied for a long time, or i misunderstand everything. quite right. you understand it. well, uh behind these words about making room hides a very simple truth or lie, uh, which is that
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the ukrainian orthodox church. we will have to demolish our temple building, the temple building, located in a symbolic for all orthodox believers together in kiev, is the place where e, as evidenced by the legend, which is confirmed by historical facts , was the first stone church in russia and this is a very important place. and in fact , many out there would like to. the schismatics succeeded in building the temple, including the schismatics, but now under the conditions of the purges carried out by the ukrainian authorities. they decided to demolish the temple building. uh, canonical and ukrainian church. here are some in e. telegram channels are already joking about the fact that the new head of the bureau, a poet in politics in ukraine, some lena says that everything is fine with us, as the bolshevik time does not demolish churches, but churches, as
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it turns out, are demolished and demolished, of course, the churches of the wrong church, which is not , therefore, just some kind of offshoot of the ukrainian political establishment. and this history of russia is equally valuable for a person, where he was below in moscow in kiev in minsk anywhere, but the space that is connected with our goal. here and on this place, where there was one of the first temples , the prayers of the canonical church were performed. now when the temple is supposed to tear down those prayers will not take place. this is important for us. and in fact, this action of the ukrainian authorities, er, is just one in a series of attempts to completely illegally infringe on the rights of the ukrainian orthodox church. uh, you know that this very week, uh hmm yes, quite right, another package of some
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completely repressive measures, deprivation of ukrainian citizens of ukrainians, if you want, who never, then they were not, i don’t know national traitors or even agents of what kind -they were simply lyricists and bishops to the ukrainian orthodox church. so they became enemies of the people, they are deprived of them. uh, citizenship only because they belong to an organization that is a religious organization, which the political establishment trade found undesirable. and yet they have a different nationality. no, that is, they , as it were, become deprived of rights, being on the territory of ukraine with the status of refugees, people of church people without a certain place, residence, other citizenship, most likely not, but that's not the point. the fact is that, as if even having, even if they have some other citizenship. these are ukrainians. these are people whose whole life is connected with ukraine, with
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the ukrainian people, with ukrainian pasta, with the traditions of the ukrainian orthodox church. it’s even worse than in the baltics in the baltics when , to say, it was carried out with this company, when most of the russian population and not all were called non-citizens, then at least they were ethnic, well, let’s put it this way other than latvians, for example, yes or estonians, yes? some other local peoples, which means with such zeal took up the formation national statehood. uh, it was illegal, but there was at least some kind of e , you know, some kind of your own, albeit vicious, but the logic, but in relation to the ukrainian bishops, there is not even this vicious logic. it's just nonsense. this is chaos. this. well, something in the spirit. i don’t know class struggles, or something, some kind of nonsense, at least, even from
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the point of view that hmm, deprive priests of citizenship because they received congratulatory telegrams or letters from the patriarch, but with a stroke of the president’s pen, who spoke on the stages russian. there, it means that kvn of theater venues and so on made money here. well, yes, at least, as if strange, but still all this is a question. well, somehow that's what fate is, then these people, that is, it turns out you alone. for them they were refused, and others, for some other geopolitical reasons, do not want to accept them, which means, well, do not raise too much, so that this is how it looks. no. well , of course, i think that our state, yes , and our church, of course, if people decide to move to russia, uh, saving their life, then i think that, of course, no one will leave them to other news from estonia this week, the organizers of the immortal
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regiment sent. in principle, at first its own, europe as a whole took a very, as it were, consolidated position. there are, of course, exceptions there, serbia, or switzerland recently became aware that it recognized as illegal, but the confiscation of frozen russian assets. but generally speaking, the policy in the european union now, that is , the european union is equal to brussels and whether it reminds you, but in places or in general, uh, it can't be done analogy with war communism, there and the ussr there in the thirties of the last century. if there is something in common, because the european union is increasingly comparing it from the point of view, there are historical parallels. it seems to me that they are quite applicable to themselves. now the european union is largely moving along the path that there is only one correct point of view, this is the one that is occupied
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by the bureaucracy of the european union itself and in the public space in the media. i have to talk about this very often, because here are all the journalists that i met, for example, um, arriving at the assembly in siminus from churches. uh, in germany, all the journalists approached me with the same ideological slogans, you know? that is , it's simple, as if something was put into their heads, and now they have to work out this slogan. why the church has blessed means fratricidal war or something like that. eh, why do they pray there in the church? i do not know for anything, except for the world, for which there is really a sea in the church. answer a question today. why did the church bless the goodness of the murderous war? i i answer uh, this question. in fact , this question is very simply asked with one goal and purpose - it is very simple those who
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set the media agenda. they want only one thing from our church , so that it becomes a political opposition, so that it starts e processes that would lead to a revolution, a civil war, and hmm an illegal change of power and other charms that hmm are part of our european ones. so to speak, partners, or as they call them now, they seem. apparently very desirable, but the church. she always takes a moral stance moral position lies, including in the feeding of our military personnel, we know that a person who serves in the army does his duty, risks his life, he not only deserves, he has the right to spiritual help from the church and the church, by the way, speaking, does not only our russian church, but also representatives of other traditional religions
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, provides this assistance to our soldiers and helps them to pass through the most difficult field of military service. this is precisely what irritates western journalists, politicians and public figures. how many prayers are said in general, e, in temples. uh, the word victory appears in the russian orthodox church , you know, uh, those prayers that are now read in the russian orthodox church. at every worship service. they are by their nature called prayers for peace, because the church always prays for peace. by the way, she prays for peace not only in times of war, but also in times of peace, because we understand very well that the state of hmm war, unfortunately. this is a constant threat that the word victory exists in front of humanity. if we now take a thermometer, which is usually read were read in temples before the beginning of their. you understand, yes, what i'm leading to and the country
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from serving, you know, we are behind every saint of water, we have, uh, a prayer of victory over opposing gifts, but uh, the interpretation of this prayer. it does not have such an applied meaning opposite. these are those who oppose us, and it is not only about the army of the enemy, it is, for example, the enemy of the human race, that is, the one who is always devils, who opposes a person, in his life path, which, in general, trying to push people to sow discord war of suffering. is it true that the priest of ivankov was removed from serving the patriarchs. just because he replaced the word victory with the word peace in his prayer, but this is probably not the best wording here, because i can absolutely say that
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if each priest remakes the prayer for his own -something expectations, do not know hmm state of the political some preferences, then the question is rather the only church. eh, let's say become very aggravated in the church. uh, it is supposed that the priest, but must perform those prayers that hmm blessed him to do, these prayers that either e, i don’t know have been present in eh, liturgical texts eh hmm for centuries. i think it's a responsibility that every priest takes on. she hmm is such that she cannot arbitrarily change prayers, this applies not only to prayers in the context, so to speak, of our modern time there is a war or some other suffering. this applies to all prayers. do you understand? you do not
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you can. is that how you read a book? you can’t just remake paragraphs and pieces there and read as you like. this is already the book. read whether this prayer was a patriarch? listen, well prayers don't have such a separate author, they are always formed. if you want the conciliar mind, this conciliar mind. maybe there are a few people there, maybe that's all of the local cathedral. if you want, it's not scriptures. and these people are not even canonized. they are usually people, even though they are archaic you know there, if a person believes that he can accept only those prayers that are written by canonized people, then perhaps the father also adhered to this point of view. this is some kind of extreme form of gordon , it still seems to me, to be honest, this could be answered. e, in short, and i would have understood it then, that is, this is a disciplinary sanction. well, as it were, uh, the internal routine, like any organization
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has. uh, labor law. and there is, uh, the work schedule, uh, of some company, you know, in the case of the russian orthodox church , the same organization. you know, it's not quite like that, after all, the church is not, uh, the organization that lives for some kind of exclusively. uh, regulatory technical standards. i don't know the rules of labor. every priest. still, he answers not only to some disciplinary commissions, but to his own conscience. and i believe that the conscious distortion of prayers under any pretext. this is still a misdemeanor, primarily against one's conscience. i want to read one statue, we endlessly we curse comrade stalin and of course for e, nevertheless i want to ask who wrote 4 million denunciations, well, davlatov’s famous common quote yes, i understand, and the parishioners also denounced the priest on this, which means they compared the text, after all, he is not
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alone i read it for a month, i didn’t even figure it out right away. here we have such a phenomenon both in the church sphere and in the secular one as denunciations. and i get news about it every day. well, for example, a man was driving there in a compartment with another man, they got into a conversation or drank they argued, they got off at the station one against the other wrote a denunciation that he means e disrespectfully expressed, and that he criticizes his husband about the army of the russian federation wrote a denunciation to his wife because she was photographed, there, together with a child, somewhere in sochi at an event , or parties, as it seemed to him, reminiscent of both lgbt propaganda and that is, such internal human proceedings develop into writing? to law enforcement agencies yes nosov this trend
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does not frighten you. you know me. hmm. i think this is more of a concern. uh, something stupid some people who don't understand, uh, the difference between the threat of committing a crime am and some idle gossip discussions, i don't know kitchen conversations everyone else you know, for example, there is a person who finds out that some kind of crime is being prepared, for example, the murder of a year cars arrived. basically, on the basis of leisure, they freak out in the kitchen. yes, i understand. well, look. it seems to me that some sober understanding of reality should have them. if he finds out that a crime is being prepared, for example, here, if you found out that someone is preparing a diversion, yes, undermining the train. for example, of course, you
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must report this denunciation in 99% of cases, of course, this is drunken nonsense. here's how to respond to drunken delirium. well , you should probably sober up. so i think that this is a very correct approach to the situation when, following the results of a trip in a compartment, communications appear with law enforcement agencies, even from the news, russian publishers, bypassing the sanctions, will release western bestsellers of the book, that is, but in the form of a retelling by samra, so to speak, as you relate to this recently, it means that our cinemas were shown without the permission of the copyright holders of the film avatar, that is, we kind of criticize, we say that we are better than we don’t need anything washington and we will bear children for you , our women will not be for this, which means that here are growing, but your films, we will still make money from this. it's very strange, but also ekaterina, if you allow, after all
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, between you not having children for foreigners and watching a movie. in my opinion, there is a certain distance, that is, uh, in the first case we are talking about the humiliation of the dignity of women. i am convinced of this, and in the second case, well, of course, this is not theft. second, don't steal someone put in a lot of hard work over many years to release an audiovisual product that has an author, a copyright holder, who has the right to a royalty of his product and someone makes money on it without his permission. this is not steal e, you know, well, if, perhaps, a formal approach, then, of course, certain questions arise here. but to be honest, i'm the one here that worries me the most other. it seems to me that we are long overdue. hmm , so to speak, to learn how to create our own high-quality film product. this is not an open secret.
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we all know very well that soviet cinema was at one time more than competitive and , of course, it was watched twice in the same river, you can’t enter, but it seems to me that we have many creative people, directors, script writers, artists who are able to create a product not worse avatar you have to believe in it you have to believe in your compatriots, these talented compatriots create, uh, serials. and at we have very few shows. well, for example, on a church or religious theme. here they created a series of a monastery, here the other day, by the way, the ministry of culture won a lawsuit against yandex there, although the fine is some kind of symbolic. and for the fact that yandex showed this series without a rental certificate, because it was rented on a certificate. uh, the monastery was denied, right? and now people are sitting just thinking in this direction, or producers are ready to invest in projects and look at how to think about law enforcement practice. why do i need it? for what? will i go there? uh, 100%
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churches, they won't like my script, but they will see it. there, insulting the feelings of believers , i will lay out the money. i'm going to put this whole thing together. and well, no matter how we give, and plus we also adopted a law banning lgpt propaganda for this, you must agree with me. if you want, you can pull up a lot of things? yes, well, i can still want to disagree with you, because the church really welcomes the cinema, but in which religious issues are raised, including not being raised in some deep way. here you are probably watched or heard about the film is not a novice the film is not a novice - it's not at all. some kind of dull picture there, i don’t know, and which absolutely evokes a feeling of acid in the mouth or something like that, but the junction, where everything
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is around, so to speak, themes, nudity and other things. well, this is censorship, because the viewer. well, for example, many liked the monastery. now i'm not saying that i liked it or someone else, but i admit that people may like it, and they have the right to watch it. in addition, they do not watch on the federal channel. they are watch on the platform there by subscription for their own money. listen, well , look, here i have a familiar father. i 'm just not going to violate copyright here. these, however, do not cry, nevertheless. he loves to talk all the time. in my opinion. wise phrase. we have the most visited site and these are porn sites. well, let's conclude from this that people like it and we will continue to support their development. so, god bless him with pornography, i started with books. and not just because i started with her. and we are literally five minutes ago they talked about how
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you can’t throw words out of a song, and in prayer, too, to replace them, what will this lead to? suppose the author of a book finds out there that this book was published in russia, yes, even in retelling. yes, even in the form of some means, as this is a summary of war and peace well, is this not nonsense, well, to be honest, i see no reason to publish books in retelling. here is the news russian publishers will release your opinion about it. what is the opinion that any book in retelling is another work. this not a work of authorship, of course, reading a book in retelling means not reading them, so i can’t seem to say something reasonable to explain this approach in russia , they passed a law regulating the use of foreign words. so, they are permissible to use them with the exception of having no
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common consumer analogues in the russian language, but i can say this. for example, the word designer has no analogues, because in russian there is a designer. and even then the project is also not quite a russian word, the designer or designer also means origin of the word constructor. are there many words, uh, that you use u every day in your speech, for which you will now need to look for a replacement, and you know, in general, i agree with my own and agree with this wording, which they cited, which are that e is protected only by those words that have analogues, that is, simply replace russian words. uh, foreign counterparts. it means, well, in my opinion spoiling your speech. this is a well-known joke, in my opinion, from the 19th century. no one offers
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to call galushas just stupid. yes here, well no one suggests this, but here are a lot of other examples of just foreign words. they just replace the russians , there is no point in this, because otherwise we will wake up one fine morning and just stop. speaking my native russian is not, i understand stimulation in a different way. well, for example, to screenwriters or a producer who go out there to pitch the ministry of culture. the cinema fund, uh, is offered $ 50 million more if there are no borrowed words. i understand, i understand the tool with which you can do it. well, that's all, like this in the form in which it is. to be honest with the denial of the air. to whom will you ban bloggers, will you fine them, what will happen? er, well, you're right. uh, if we define the rule of language, the rules for the use of the language
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are still determined. as for the cultural space, it is necessary to at least support those projects in this space that are made in good literary russian. this will be the norm, from which, of course, there will be deviations of any blogger, who may not have read any books. i hope that there are few of them or no , you can’t force them to speak russian if he doesn’t know russian, but uh, if there is a request from the audience, and the audience, it is formed there, starting from kindergarten. yes , in kindergarten there as a child. children watch cartoons. yes, cartoons should also be made in some language. they can be made in a terrible mixture of multizakovic can be made in their native language, uh, and as a result , children's books of cartoons finish classical literature, a person grows up who speaks his native language, and he will not watch e blogger who
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commits and do not know the mockery of his native language is a cool word for bloggers. it seems to me that memes can be born from this . many thanks to you vladimirovich for coming to our studio to come to us more often with pleasure. thank you. and that includes you, isn't it? why are you digging there? we're going to give him the title of righteous man of the world, that's a witness. so he doesn’t want to talk about it, how old we were then. at 17:00, the family had one valuable relic
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