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well, you know, it’s not great russian chauvinism that is returned to the russian people. yes, what do they say? by the way, i’m not sure that i have ever been to put it mildly, but, nevertheless, the understanding that russia is the only form of the historical realization of the russian ethnos on planet earth and he is responsible for this. including mutual responsibility, yes, the homeland and the people of the people and the motherland, moreover, in my opinion. uh, when usually start to annoy. but what about a multinational professional country before. you are harming others in this way. similar. let's introduce you to the rank of alexander gitsenko save only the soviet people fish others. not here, yevgeny tkachuk, i’m lucky, i’ll definitely be with you until the end of my life. fedor dobronravov
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is considered to be calculated on the shelves, sorted out four moves ahead, sergey makovetsky sees his comrades for the campaign to get ahead of me, comrade, kozelev. konstantin khabetsky never lost, no way.
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can you hurt? if you
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don’t understand anything, so to speak, in fact, here, in my opinion, you can find the formulas of the formula - it's simple, when it comes to defending russia , we are all russians we are all russians, when it comes to defending russia, when it comes to national identity within russia within . e within e of what is not self-destruction and destruction. yes, here, uh, any cultural, autonomy, any self-consciousness, in principle, has the right to flourish, so to speak, uh, the most , so to speak, the brightest colors and remember all your roots and so on, this is uh, and this formula can be found if you wish, you can to promote and there is nothing in it. on my sight. the contradictions are absolute. i am sure that this is where we need to move. here in this direction. e, extinguishing any radicalism, so to speak, both on the one hand and on the other, that is, it is rude to find this golden mean. it can be found, otherwise nothing will work. why because the upbringing of a man of the world with all due respect to the world at this historical stage , when to self-destruction, therefore, a person
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who will think of himself as a european, living in russia, most likely, as if at a critical moment, you will say you know russia of course, it's not bad, but to hell with it. i went there, i went there, and nothing keeps me here anymore. on what do you kind of justify how you justify, in general , the need for the existence of a big russia tell me, if we are talking only about a market economy , there’s nothing about a market economy, i’ll tell you, so to speak, such an idea does not explain in any way that they are such a big country, like russia does not at all from an economic point of view , such a large country as russia is not needed. just don't need no economic sense in that kaliningrad vladivostok be in one country. these meanings all lie outside money outside the economy in the field of national self-consciousness, the historical historical and cultural identity of religious values, water the ancestors and everything else, and they are within the limits of money, which, from the point of view of money, is just the easiest way to divide this country. the easiest way, as it were, based, so to speak
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, on the basis of these economic logics, is to say, yes, it must be divided into three parts, and i assure you, you can draw a very beautiful scheme, how and why this part should go there. but this is where this logic should have a subordinate position, economic meanings should impose a subordinate position in relation. so to speak, the ideas of ideology and so on and moreover, moreover, at the same time, to be honest, i am not like that. here. uh, an optimist like some who hmm, so to speak, that , well, yes, they’ll divide, they will accept the european union not a fig of such a division has always led to war, and in this case examples of examples of the mass of the division of the soviet union led to a huge number of military conflicts, one of which we are seeing now, because the current military conflict between russia and ukraine is the consequences of division . division always leads to war. so it will be from russia . there will be no such, so to speak, smooth, so to speak, division, and so on and so forth, which is somehow calmly institutionalized, everything will be blurry there. well, this is for you, there is nothing like it there will not be a war war. enough to say that the territory is like a country yes, here and before and this
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this would really be death. and by the way, these are all all sorts of soothing, so to speak, conversations about the fact that they will first accept these and then these. yes, maybe they won’t accept anyone at all, for example, let’s say the expeditionary force will provide some kind of expeditionary bone, ensure control over resources and that’s all and you don’t need to accept anyone, and you are all the rest in those territories that are not needed from the point of view of the economy. you can kill each other. how much will fit , this is really a prospect, and not at all some rejection, so to speak, by parts of the european union. there, nato is the real prospect of a war of all against all with this control of strategic points, as it were, yes, we are on the map of the former russia. with all this , to be honest, in this sense, i remain unequivocally optimists many times here defeat. i believe in eternal life in russia and all this talk about the fact that here is the whole problem in putin, they either persuade themselves or uh, how are they trying to convince us or do they not understand the deep things in putin or is the whole problem? yes, it seems to me in fact the problem, as it seems to them, is a much deeper problem, it is
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the existence of a truly sovereign civilization called russia, which produces leaders from time to time. and then with whom the west enters into a conflict, this happened many times there before putin, and i will always happen after putin and who exactly no way, no matter how, but will not become popular or let's say there is a leading politician here, these are those whom they uh, now they are trying to carry khodorkovsky kasparov in their arms, this is all ridiculous. this is a circus. even endless. i’m not even a circus , you know, so to speak, a theater of cockroaches, not even horses, as it were, this is really a theater of cockroaches, here he thinks that khodorkovsky is with kaspar. there were once popular politicians politicians here. here, in general , they don’t understand a damn thing in the russian people and in the russian people as a whole. this is an idea, but we did not agree, just a couple of phrases about the russians. again, uh, to understand, in the end, a really wise politician,
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he evaluates the effectiveness of an idea, weighing all the pros and cons pluses and minuses are possible risks, but nonetheless. i draw your attention to the fact that in ukraine it was not without reason that at first they tried to fight for the fact that the russians are they and they say that russia is they, and then they began to call their opponents orcs. they are afraid of power. this idea is a fighter, because it is very seriously rooted in history, so you need to tell your own people, including russians, that they are not fighting russians. they fight muscovites orcs. so to speak, subhuman, and so on and so forth, therefore, when our country is also quite for many years they closed their eyes to the fact that almost all post-soviet republics with rare exceptions. yes, they based their identity on ethnic nationalism and russophobia. we did not understand that we were digging holes for ourselves, but it turned out that this is, probably, like, yes, to whom. it seemed that so you can save the stability of anything like that. so we weakened ourselves. one more point, too, which suggests itself. here, too , once, not so long ago, we talked about this, nevertheless, in order to
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motivate, as it were, yes, our population. eh, well people in the first place, so to speak warriors. yes, the same ones would be quite stable. it is necessary to engage in the education of a new historical consciousness, starting from the kindergarten. why is it not so new , it’s enough just to know the history, you don’t have to think anything, you don’t have to lie, so to speak. it’s not necessary, so to speak, to build some of these same emerald ones there, these same cities and sand castles, it’s enough just to emphasize and clearly explain those moments of history that were well blurred or , let’s say, that passed there, uh, passed fast enough the first and that, indeed. so there are real historical russian lands. well, historically russian, this is how it happened. yes, the situation that happened in the ninety-first year. she led to division. to what extent this section is legal, to what extent it is, as it were, yes, uh, for centuries, and this is actually a moot point, and in my opinion making it indisputable also meant stepping on one’s own foot, so to speak. i understand that many people will not like these things now, however. let's think about ourselves first.
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turn, but about that, just in case, such thoughts would be in the head of our people. it would be right. then, for example, there are also historical plots, for example, let's say, like campaigns. e genius commander alexander sergeevich suvorov i have already said here once, too, such an idea, as it were, yes, which many many will warp, however. eh, paphos, with our victory in the great patriotic war, no one doubts. this is indeed a historical victory of good , a breakdown, and we are on the side of good beyond all comparisons, but for many years he has been instilling in his own people that only a war that protects the country from the aggressor can be just. we have weakened ourselves. yes, for example, suvorov did not participate in any such war, in general , in none, as far as i remember, well, he did not participate in repelling, so to speak , the onset of aggression, nevertheless, the great commander during the great patriotic war. as we remember, yes, this demolition is an award yes , the corresponding one, why did it appear that's because he is a great commander and we need such commanders, for example, now in number would be no good, and i think these things are over. these things are our
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intellectual elite, they must think. she has to make sense of it. this requires a philosophical justification. to do this, you don’t need any kind of viral, you know, so to speak, again, so that we are castigated, you don’t need any such exalted, again classy patriotism. to do this, you need a sober, calm, well-founded, so to speak, yes , very well-grounded philosophical, so to speak philosophical platform for a new historical a look at oneself, one's past and one's future, including those that connect eras. i have talked about this many times, linking they separating. yes, this also applies to the endless red white war, which i think, no matter how this is a difficult topic, but nevertheless, as if, every time we move down to it , our enemies begin to kalashmat each other, they only rub their hands. that, in fact, is all i wanted to say haters. russia has always had a lot in historical times and in modern times. this, too, we all discussed here a lot, but one thing business haters, what is called?
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in fact, e is a real-politician, yes, like, who is outside our country and primarily pursues the interests not so much, maybe even of his own states. if we talk about the european union, let's say, since they are not hired top managers on european union officials , then he is the masters of history of his employers, but there are haters who a grew up here yes, that's flesh and blood, and in relation to them i was remembered. uh, words to fyodor mikhailovich and he himself is aware of his meanness and he himself goes into this meanness, yes saying, uh, oh, look how they realize their stiltedness, they realize and deliberately go into this meanness, by the way, back in 1964. a novel by ivan shevtsov was published. you mentioned this term at the very beginning. and of course, the novel did not have such a well, great artistic value, but those were ideologists.
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uh, the confrontation debates that are raised in the novel, they are relevant today, remove only the word communist ideology, replace it with the state and interests of the russian federation, and this one, aphid uh, really turned out to be extremely tenacious. uh, yesterday, as we all know, was the 85th birthday of the brilliant journalist writer alexander andreevich prokhanov and in particular. here in one of his recent novels they are called a swordsman. he. uh, like a master brilliant master of metaphor. he, uh, very clearly recorded. here is the end of the soviet union and he revealed there such uh hmm characters that he called beavers who gnaw at the trunk of the state. they were komsomol leaders. where are the famous characters from, who are now , yes, uh, located abroad, they were there, let's say, part of the gb on the generals. this there were eyelids and so on. these are the beavers that
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gnawed at the salt. and the soviet state anita spawned in a ritual in huge numbers over the past 30 years. and these are no longer the beavers we are here. yes, here, uh, we are discussing this, just some, and beavers are beavers, but nevertheless, they, uh, think that they are , let's say, gnawing this trunk of the russian state. in fact, there probably is. uh, today the beavers who sit here and who are not always even known in public space, but uh need i think uh, exactly pay attention to both. as for, respectively. eh, here's the outer contour, then, of course, on the anniversary of ours, we know dozens, if hundreds of all kinds of publications in the western, the media of which actually, uh, sorted out, were written, different moments. well, as a rule, this is all propaganda garbage.
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i would call it that, but well, the publication drew my attention first of all, because it was made on the site of the red corporation, a well-known, as we know, structure that was created in the forty-eighth year, and already since the fifties she, but actively worked on orders from government agencies, including the us state department and, by the way, is now working on orders from other states, the european union orders expert assessments and even the countries of the middle east and asia, but it’s interesting that this structure is served as non-profit organization. in fact, it was created by two generals of the us air force and, uh, douglas, who was a well-known industrialist and aircraft builder, but that’s not the point, so this is a rental site, corporations, well-known and uh, the authors of this publications to which i drew attention. this is hmm jenkins, who is the president's advisor. rand that is not a small person for 45 days. he advised practically.
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all significant e committee in the ministry of defense together with the ministry for 40 years, yes, yes, he was born forty-second, and i said yes, yes, but i wanted to say that, apparently for 40 days. we got through it. and so. e, respectively, e he dealt with these issues very substantively, i mean, here is strategic planning. and what is he suggested he suggested six scenarios. uh, the development of the ukrainian crisis. and by the way, is it that a certain mood is changing in the analytical segment and among the political one , or is this also literally obvious? i'm just going to list it. well, the first hmm scenario is a spiral of violence, that is, we are talking about a deliberate prolongation of the conflict and in the end . uh, maybe 23. that is, this year will be some kind of turning point, but it is possible
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that the parties will continue to suffer serious losses. and here it is worn will increase. it's the first scenario, the second, what they don't like to write about, but it goes with the second scenarios. e on the red website - this is hmm victory in fact of the russian federation, they consider this as a scenario, and they explain this by the fact that russia has huge demographic financial economic resources, in the end, territorially, and so on, and that’s all. this will enable russia e. but uh, so that what is called life as honey does not seem to us, they say, motivated, and not piling up resistance inside. eh, will make this win. so let's say it first, but it's a script. yes, the third scenario they are going to freeze. yes , all of them inside through the top larsnul. yes, to this e no, well, you are on those in ukrainian yes
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, by the way, we will return to this later. they also made it very clear. so the third scenario is a frozen conflict, which they like least of all, because it has certain hmm and a positive moment for russia, because it is necessary to mark the line of demarcation to give some kind of guarantees for the security of all territories. the fourth scenario is a military defeat of russia, but right away, in fact, this expert stipulates that most military experts believe that this is practically impossible as an example, he says, well , there have been cases in history, he talks about the defeat of south vietnam in the seventy-fifth year and , accordingly, the collapse of the army of american afghanistan i think these examples. they do not correspond at all to the real state of things now, and they are completely far-fetched and the latter. uh, two scenarios, a negotiated settlement is considered the most disadvantageous for
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russian script. by the way, about the conversation. yes, we, uh, talked a lot about this, but uh, let's see, and about the upper lars , the sixth scenario is a change of regimes in the russian federation , which scares that it is politically motivated people who left the country, upsets you see the west and so on. is it possible? on the contrary, slightly more politically ethereal people remained on the side, for whom, how to motivate the philistine cattle burped out of the side. it turns out that hmm, the french potential of this protest movement turned out to be sharply reduced on this occasion sad, but at the same time. they say that a coup from above is impossible given the current situation. it turns out, why am i , uh, uh, that's all. i'm telling you that even in these scenarios, you can see how the analytical rhetoric changes, that is, not that ukraine
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will win. russia must necessarily be defeated by the new path. no, different options are being considered. this e, indicates that serious e transformations are taking place. and we have what options are being considered, but this is the next, they are considering a bunch of options for us. what are our options? here you in 2018, at the santa fe institute, one of the many conferences was held, by which they planned events that, in particular , are taking place today and signed the situation until 2030, when i read this, i think, but we have an institute of the future, we are planning the future, why i know right away this is a rhetorical question. i know that there is no such institute, but the russian land was losing weight with talents, yes, which could develop and platforms, it seems like a huge number,
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starting from not by the night the rankings will be dented, finishing skolkovo yes and it's just not them, i'm now them well, sorry, they're not interested. i'm interested in something else. and we have a wonderful gazprom, a wonderful rosneft, and wonderful banks that have the most powerful analytical services, which work there in a certain direction, in which to spit out the creation of institutions. it turns out to be done as, for example, a report to the roman club was ordered with several groups and these groups in parallel. and just do them calmly and for example, i'm worried about america. well, you're on the verge of a patriotic split maidan in america is not possible. a fantastic war and the division into republican and democratic states should be green parties, which
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are some kind of pants, as well as nationalistic mexican planning for the future, it will give us the opportunity to see, not only our problems. yes, including global ones, and reference points in a number of states of the world, moreover, to see the threat that today carries in itself these global tops, transnational corporations, and so on, because not only the state is playing. after all, he plays and the transnationals pour themselves over the independent tx with me, right? worried about the independence of scotland during the day at night, ireland should be united and finally, the russian brothers should be free, what at least? yes, for example, i'm worried about the emirate of paris, worry
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about arabic becoming the official language. paris in five years. why wait so long for the cathedral, the wig of notre dame will become a mosque, like the famous novel by elena chudinov yes, so that we need not only, uh, read their script and consider how they see development there to formulate their own. in this case, sergei san is absolutely right in the formation of his own narratives in different directions. this is one of the most important tasks of victorious nations, if we want to be a victorious nation, then a victorious state. we need our picture. uh, the world, not only now, not the current reality, well for the future to shape. well, we know for sure that everything will be in russia except space, because after this serbia is literally the only remarque. in fact, in fact, here needed. uh, competition is an alternative.
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honestly, god forbid to order such things. rather, you can order, but those who have worked for 30 years or in a paradigm. uh, it means foreign grants or in the paradigm of the same one, as it were, if the main thing is profit. yes, they are also about corporation analysts. however, they cannot, they very much, well, they cannot, because for themselves they cannot step over. it's 30 years you've been living in the same paradigm, it's very difficult for you to write something very well even for money interesting, but they are also needed. it's just that in such projects there should be a hundred, from which you can choose. here, in fact, we will choose everything. well, first of all, i will answer ponomarev's line. and we have a lot of groups that are engaged in the future, i myself am personally a member of two. one is called the haizin foundation, which writes economic models, and the other is called the club, truth street but economically, but all these groups. well , as if they were, as it were, in the most cruel way, the power
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of marginalization marginalized the most cruel, then there is forbidden to mention names it is forbidden to mention the name and so on, categorically impossible, because these are the same ideas. they will not close it out of illiteracy, because we have now sounded exactly and nothing happened. not by that much. well, as it were, then, now, in the part, here, uh, is it possible to say a? about, as it were, that the world should be divided, and for an objective one, i will now explain one thing - a hole. the fact is that europe is a very strange region, generally speaking, isotherms, that is, lines. uh, as if temperature, n they go horizontally on the map in a latitudinal direction and only in europe due to the golf stream in the south and among in the north and
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the mediterranean sea in the south. they go to comedies. so the zero isotherm of january passes through berlin and the fact that the east is the east and that which is to the west is the west and the difference. this is where any country of the east that gets into the west cannot live like the west without subsidies for climatic reasons and for this reason. if well, by the way, pay attention, we see it. here, as soon as the baltic states bulgaria romania escaped, so say out of fearful oppression. so the soviet union began depopulation there. well, in fact, in the baltics, this has already come to a catastrophe, and in bulgaria , too, romania may not be holding on anymore just because it builds itself out of itself as the main enemy of russia
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and exists only because there is russia and for this reason, everything is clear here. that is , as soon as russia disappears everything that east berlin has in the war of poverty. well, or it becomes, as it were, a cheap labor force for this warm west once again. this objective economic situation now. yes now well it's there it's a lot of who yes it's a scab. it's better than it's better. what does it mean and for this reason, here you can simply say absolutely objectively. yes, here is the line.
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it will be the honest detective. but it's best to check.
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the richest country in the world leads to the fact that the world is completely impossible to explain. just from the word quite within the current conditions. and that's why every time i hear it, it's a point of view.

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