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[000:00:00;00] we watch programs and documentaries for free without registration in the application or on the website hello. kirill vyshinsky is with you, and this program is a typical novorossiya, our new name says it all, we will talk about
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the territory that has returned to its historical roots - novorossiya with the help of a careful look at history of new russia. we will try to reveal the originality of her present day, to find in it typical features and recognizable signs of the past. and that's what we'll talk about today. odessa without deribas and cossack mariupol ukrainian version of novorossiya, why do we need a history of novorossiya without russia conversation with an expert of the program the best dancer in europe lives in donetsk recently , pseudo-historical stories about how everything really happened have become popular in ukraine, especially a lot of them about
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navorossia. the meaning of these stories. it's just that there were never russians here before them. here everything was mastered, colonized and laid down. and these came to everything ready. the main argument long before the russian empire began to develop degree of the northern black sea region. everything here was already mastered by the greeks in the third-fourth centuries bc, and you can’t argue with archaeologists confirming that the bosporus kingdom, which united the cities of the greek colony , really existed in the crimea and the black sea region. true, in ukraine they forget to say that the steppe nomads, the huns, finally destroyed it in the fourth century of our era. after that , both genoese and tatar and many other settlements existed in the crimea and new russia.
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but there was no purposeful and systematic development of these territories with the construction of cities by the creation of the fleet and a change in the social structure of the inhabitants of the region. all this appeared only under the russian empire, but even the ancient greeks or the current ones in ukraine were given land. new russia is not going to, because they are primordially cossack, which means that the newly-minted historian does not need to go for ukrainian arguments. here is how, for example, historical claims to the ancient ukrainianness of mariupol are substantiated. the history of this city is well known in 1779 by decree catherine the great, at the confluence of the kalmius river into the sea of ​​\u200b\u200bazov, mariupol was founded where the greeks settled, but in ukraine they claim that they were the first
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to break the settlement of domakh here in the fifteenth or sixteenth century. the existence of this settlement is not found in chronicles or in other documents, but this is a ukrainian historian. and there is no need for an even funnier story came out with a beautiful odessa. it is known that by by decree of catherine, the port and the city on the site of the turkish fortress. hadzhibey founded and built a spanish nobleman in the russian service autumn. deribas in honor of him. on the central street of odessa but do imperial decrees historical facts matter for reference ukrainian patriots? odessa is a ukrainian city and has nothing to do with russia before the turks, the settlement of khadzhibey was founded by the tatars
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, led by khan khadzhi. hence the name is according to one ukrainian version, and according to another, a solid settlement were lithuanians when, in the fourteenth century, the lands became part of the grand duchy of lithuania again no documents confirming these versions. and how ukrainian odessa immediately appeared on the site of a non-russian settlement is also incomprehensible, but odessa is a city for sure, not russian, historians say in ukraine and the same convenient places . different peoples have settled on rivers and on the coast of the seas for centuries, but it’s hard to imagine that the irish to deny the contribution of the french to the construction of paris and its belonging to the french culture only because here stands
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the parizorium of the ancient settlement of the celts of the ancestors on the site of the lutetium of today's irish, but for the ukrainian patriots, such logic can work about how in ukraine they are trying to rewrite the history of novorossia in the plot anna efimova kherson september 2014 monuments, until what will happen in ukraine after the so-called revolution of dignity will be called decommunization, during which all the old values ​​​​and foundations will be overturned along with numerous bronze and granite cultures in zaporizhia, the struggle against monuments began in the fourteenth year, in fact, in the format of a widespread struggle, but zaporozhye was the only regional center. it is simply the ukrainian space controlled by the regime. here is this gang of alcoholics. i would say drug addicts and fanatics, in which the monument
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to lenin was filmed carefully, did not dump him. uh, several thousand people came out to protect the monuments, however. it is unlikely that the authorities were considered the opinion of local residents, or did not swept across all regions of the country, and by january 2021, cities in ukraine reported on the destruction of the last memory. yatnik dedicated to the leader of the world literature, if lenin in ukraine was really too much in places. what was wrong with suvorov pushkin nikolai ostrovsky and general vatutin, who liberated the capital of ukraine from the nazis, is not entirely clear prokhvatutina, by the way, he found the last shelter on kiev land and the monument that stood over the tombstone of the commander was demolished, despite directly the prohibitions to destroy the burial places prescribed in the law de-communization from the very beginning it was about de-russification de-communization. it was a fig leaf in which she covered herself. oh yes russification. here it is very important to understand that decommunization is a tool. this is not the goal of
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another sculpture, a real shrine. it would seem for kiev an unshakable monument to the baptist of russia, prince vladimir, in march 2017, unknown people poured red paint on this and other similar acts of vandalism in ukraine, unesco usually turned a blind eye, but when it came to installing a monument grand duke vladimir in moscow experts. from the same unesco they demanded to cut the pedestal so as not to violate the history of the cultural composition. kholmsky kremlin otherwise threatened to exclude this object from the world heritage list, where this specialized un agency turned out to be much less principled in matters of historical appearance. odessa is still standing in ukraine pushkin catherine and all the rest of the russians have the right to consider us their own, and we are not theirs despite the demolition of the monument to the founders of odessa and among the people just a monument to catherine unesco approved the inclusion of the historical center of odessa in the world heritage list. the shelling of svetogorsk, lavra, there are a lot of other
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shrines there, and important, uh, historical , uh, moments for millions of people. unesco does not see or hear. and well, it's okay , it happened, but here, uh, possible hostilities in odessa well, which the militants are trying to turn into a stronghold. zelensky are immediately prepared for such political decisions that, whatever happens, the russians are literally to blame for everything, written on their knees. and the ukrainian application, which was full of excerpts from wikipedia and tourist guides, was considered by unesco according to the accelerated scheme of non-cultural passports of monuments, non-orchid documents, or scientific publications. now, on the site of the monument to empress catherine, the pedestal, on which the yellow-block flag is cut, in a word , the ukrainian authorities are acting quite in the spirit of the bolsheviks themselves hated by them, the stamina remained for a long time, because it was extremely. uh, reliably made by the engineers of the russian empire. and this is the step
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structure. it served first for the hammer and sickle, which was the first such sign, then for the head of concrete e. marks, while during the special military operation , not a single cultural object was purposefully destroyed by russian troops. you can't say anything about the action of the ukrainian authorities, the funds of the mariupol museum of local lore, for example, not only did not evacuate. 95% of the storage was simply destroyed by the retreating militants. azov, it turned out that the main thing, the building of the mariupol museum of local lore, was burned and burnt, and the soot was specially uh hmm march 19th. e 22 years old. we restored these dates according to eyewitness accounts of local residents, and, uh, it burned down just as it was destroyed, just uh. that part was museum funds. against this background, a decision was made to evacuate from kherson to the left bank of non- pro-cultural values ​​and monuments of ushakov to suvorov and potyomkin looks more than
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justified. i have always said that , unfortunately, the matter is not limited to monuments and graves. the main goal of this policy here. it consists in depriving people of a common past for everything. years of independence ukrainian authorities. only diligently collapsed the joint imperial heritage mass demolished monuments that were somehow connected with russian russian history and culture. the vacated pedestals were repainted with the colors of the national flag, on which crooked iron new ukrainian heroes were fussily unloaded on them, just as there was no anna the seventh valery saveliy anastasia popova typical about how the historical memory of novorossia is preserved and changed. we 'll talk to our permanent expert historians and political scientist alexander
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vasiliev. sasha good afternoon. good afternoon , another item has recently appeared on the list of endless claims of ukraine and russia. uh, ukraine accuses russia of stealing the monuments to potemkin and suvorov from kherson. it looks at least strange, especially against the background of the fact that in the same odessa on ukrainian territory the same monuments were demolished . so what then is the essence of the claim? that under e fighting russia sets the goal of destroying the cultural heritage of the literally cultural code of ukraine and linnets, and under this they make up, but a similar one, and examples, ukraine itself is eloquent. and uh demonstrates we are seeing
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, uh, just erasing leftist traces in general, uh, russian culture. and if you look at the monument in suvorov, yes, then, for example, one of the first was dismantled even, uh, a few years ago in kiev in front of a military lyceum. yes, there he was renamed then in person. yes, yes , quite right, and the monument was repeated, as if demolished without it, and in the same odessa , for example, and in the same way, e suffered. e monument, uh, which was called the glory of russian weapons that defended odessa yes, this is a monument to the crimean war, in the case of kherson at the moment. they could simply destroy it by shooting there by blowing up and so on. well, uh, that's why this measure at the beginning of this year was completely justified. ukraine has achieved inclusion of the e center of odessa in the list of cultural heritage of unesco although this process lasted quite a long time. er, starting from 2009 or
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10, i think, even more. actually. a why suddenly so ukraine hurried at the end of last year began to make special efforts. that's what, in fact, for them it is uh, what is the political meaning? as we say, a former deputies of the odessa city council. yes, i am well acquainted with this topic , because, uh, the idea to include the historical center of odessa in the unesco world heritage list is on. well, i think that even since the nineties there have been vitals in the city. but it doesn’t matter to do this for two reasons, firstly, kiev was absolutely indifferent. and if we look, here she is on the map at all unesco world heritage sites on the territory of ukraine and now within the former borders , because we see that most of them are western and central ukraine tough criterion. and of course, according to strict formal
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criteria. unesco - it was very difficult to let down, and suddenly everything happened very quickly, the most interesting thing that ukraine actively tried to contribute to e. here is the area odessa port. eh, this is actually very interesting. deal, because in the port itself. e. in general, well, there are some buildings there, by the gauzes, uh, which have been preserved since pre-revolutionary times, but there are no special monuments well, yes, that is, these are interesting objects that certainly deserve to be stored, but nothing, in- firstly, there is no outstanding there, and secondly, well, a number of objects there, which are simply uh, have already been built there again in ukraine, which caused outrage there all the architectural community up to europe but. now, all of a sudden, our port is equated to this, but like. opera house, of course, it is clear what this is about. ah, in reality, there is a military facility in the port, and this is infrastructure, which is a potential legitimate target. uh, for
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punches. yes, and there will always be a reason to say that someone has a blow, for example, there, uh, the military king, a unique historical object. this is a blow to a unesco world heritage site. that is, this one is just extraordinary. and the most interesting thing in all this is that, and i held it in my hands. this document, in general , is not, let's say, secret yes, but applications, eh, which was filed a and b in it, this very catherine’s square with its pearl of this architecture appears to the creators of the founder of odessa yes, in which there is also the figure of potemkin yes, among catherine’s associates who surround her pedestal, so there the photograph shows a whole paragraph of the text of catherine’s square . at the same time, this one is already recognized. and so to speak, part of this architectural ensemble was destroyed, the most interesting thing is that already, when this
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application was filed, ukraine sent members of the committee after the official application, as if a special open letter , which indicated that the application was actually incorrect, that it was too much surprised by the attention to the imperial uh, the past of odessa, but completely ignored, that this is actually no uh, the city was founded ekaterina and that this is what has already become official operational in ukraine, and that this is a six-year-old city and that comes from the grand duchy of lithuania or, as lithuanian, it is almost very good ukraine. uh, an example about how ukrainians are looking for roots where there are none. and this very often concerns the fate of the cities of the north sea. yes , kherson, uh, mariupol turns out to be, uh, some kind of old ukrainian settlement. e with the name domakh and why is this happening at all? why is this being done now, because
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a typical new russia is a space that, until the end of the 18th century, really remained a wild field and was not mastered by modern european civilization. yes, there was a population, there were cossacks, there were nogai tamras, who wandered here, but nothing similar to what in those days, and even now , it is customary to call civilization, that is , cities, but states. moreover, there wasn’t anything like that, and it wasn’t just there, but it couldn’t be, because there is such a wonderful document that is very loved in ukraine, and the constitution of philip orlyk is a wonderful clause prohibiting the construction of cities in the northern cave sea. that is, if it could not be applied. well, by definition, that's how, as they wanted, so to speak, was bestowed by the swedish king, here's some of this ukraine, uh, means hetman mazepa yes, and there orlyk and their followers, then there it was simply
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forbidden to build cities. well, everyone knows and understands this very well. but, if we remove this very concept of novorossiya. yes , in general, this historical narrative itself, and this emptiness needs to be filled with something. i don't fill. they announce that all of these cities. yes, they are ah, just nothing more than potemkin villages. and now they are trying to give us all this at face value. thank you very much sasha for a detailed interesting story. this person could follow in the footsteps of his father or uncle and become a miner, his father worked at one of the most famous steps in the donbass named after chopping coal, but he began to dance on the ballet stage and in 1995 was recognized as the best dancer in europe, people's artist of the ussr, honorary resident donetsk and artistic
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director. donbass opera. vadim pisarev in the donetsk ballet troupe. vadim pisarev was a soloist from the age of eighteen trained at the bolshoi and mariinsky theaters of russia at 19:00 won medals at competitions finland france and the united states of america 88 in the eighth was invited to perform with a special program at the opening of the olympic games and syria the nineties wrote in worked in dusseldorf as the leading soloist of german opera ballet companies, then returned to donetsk became the artistic director of the donetsk opera and ballet theater organized the star world ballet festival . everything changed dramatically in the 2014 war. she put me on the ground. before. i kept flying on the ground, i didn’t walk very dear to me, donetsk i don’t know
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where our danes have such love for this city, but we love it with some great love and always loved it even before the war. today in donetsk, cultural life in its usual format with evening performances, theatrical premieres and festivals has practically stopped, all groups work only on vystegse. donetsk artists know very well what it is. war from an interview with dmitry pisarev during a tour in saratov during the war years , our ballerinas developed an instinct. they're in the dance class, they never do windows, because every minute, maybe even shelling on tour, girls are wary of such places habit about how the donbass opera and its artistic
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director dmitry pisarev live today in the story of olga mokhova it's hard to believe outside the windows, some of which are clogged with plywood and there is a constant danger of shelling, and music sounds in the hall and classical music plays a lesson at the batman machine and tandyu player rehearsal at the donbass opera did not stop all these war years and the performances went on until the last one until february 18, 2022. there were shellings once a shell exploded nearby during the performance. it was also in the fifteenth year. so we stopped the performance for a few minutes and that, but the audience practically did not leave the theater, and we finished the performance. devotion, perhaps, is better not to characterize what is happening in donetsk, devotion to the profession, faith in the great
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power of art. they are all special here, but they set the mood in one pisarev wherever this outstanding one is. no matter what heights he reached in ballet, the dancer always returned to his native city and stayed here when trouble came. my student years school years i always returned home to donetsk, as if after studying at the kiev choreographic school, no matter how they called me to the capital, and i worked there, i returned to donetsk how many times i was in america and there just even articles were published in columbus. uh, pisareva station desire to show on their native mining land. high art prompted vadim pisarev to create a festival of world ballet stars and once a year donetsk became a ballet mecca more than 500 stars from 35 countries of the world visited here almost without interruption took place on 24 festival.
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moreover, three of them were already during the war and sanctions, my dream is to resume everything, of course, in my homeland in the homeland of prokofiev and because all the stars should be at least once a year in donetsk at the theater of the grateful vaganov academy of russian ballet and the moscow academy choreography for inviting talented donetsk children to study. a pupil in the schools of choreographic skill was supposed to go to st. petersburg and twelve-year-old katya kutubaeva, but she died during the shelling on august 4 last year, along with with my teacher galina volodina, of course, i would have collected. if i said that no one here is afraid to come, uh, to the city center, even if there were no shelling of the center itself for a couple of days, but we should not forget that culture is what it is. uh, the very thing that will unite us and help us move forward, when mobilization was announced in donetsk, the artists left to fight 48 people, 10 so far at the front , one has died, and many have returned with injuries.
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we are already trying to ensure that, uh, all artists are sparse for creative work, because that we are dragging in here is a difficult time in itself. but when you are involved in work, it distracts from all thoughts. last year, for the theater's anniversary, the premiere of borodin's opera prince igor was prepared here, the choice was not accidental - it was the very first performance. played 90 years ago on the donetsk stage, everything is ready for order and the vocal orchestral parts, impressive scenery and luxurious costumes are one and the second yaroslavna is the main character. we live during the war. we dream of peace, we have a special attitude to the possibility of staging war and peace jointly with the kremlin ballet based on the novel by leo tolstoy, some artists have already
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gone to rehearsals in moscow, and at home they are working on swan lake with giselle don quixote and stop working. we can't go to work every day. we get for that and keep ourselves in shape. we are waiting for the opening of the theater opera buf don giovanni and the jack of scheherazade 2023 promises a lot to the donetsk audience premiere the theater's artistic council has already approved the comic opera key on the pavement, but in the play the golden calf, something completely different is expected. reading known material to resume the same shows ready as only it will become possible and safe, as if the side that is shelling us, if we put up a poster, then we will get for these posters, therefore it is better not to touch it. but we are ready . we have all this in the project, we have, uh, programs, everything. we will do it very quickly, and everything will lose weight and sparkle.
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in the meantime, donetsk residents are touring russia a little last spring, they visited the south in autumn in the cities of the volga region. they were warmly welcomed and everywhere the russian audience applauded donetsk artist and donetsk courage olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev is a typical novorossiya. that's all we wanted to talk about.
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