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especially a lot of them about novorossiya the meaning of these stories. it's just that there were never russians here before them. here everything was mastered , colonized, laid, and these came to everything, ready. the main argument long before the russian empire began to develop the extent of the northern black sea region. everything here was already mastered by the greeks in the third-fourth centuries bc, and you can’t argue with archaeologists confirming that the bosporus kingdom, which united the cities of the greek colony , really existed in the crimea and the black sea region. true, in ukraine they forget to say that the steppe nomads of the huns finally destroyed it in the fourth century already of our era, after which both genoesks and tatars existed in the crimea and new russia. many
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other settlements, but there was no purposeful and systematic development of these territories with the construction of cities , the creation of a fleet and a change in the social structure of the inhabitants of the region. all this appeared only under the russian empire, but even the ancient greeks or the current ones in ukraine were given land. novorossia are not going to, because they are primordially cossack, which means ukrainians are for the arguments of the newly-minted historian do not need to go. here, for example, the historical claims to the ancient ukrainianness of mariupol are substantiated. this city is well known in 1779 by the decree of catherine the great at the confluence of the kalmius river. in the sea of azov , mariupol was founded where the greeks settled, but in ukraine they claim the first here in the fifteenth. and in the 16th century
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, the cossacks called the cossack trophy turkish, the damascus steel saber, which means the ukrainian lands, though no official confirmation local historians do not find the existence of this settlement not in the annals or in other documents, but this is a ukrainian historian, and there is no need for an even funnier story with odessa. it is known that by decree of catherine the port and the city on the site of a turkish fortress. hadzhibey was founded and built by a spanish nobleman in the russian service, osip deribas , the central street of odessa is named after him. but do imperial decrees and historical facts matter for reference ukrainian patriots? odessa is a ukrainian city and has nothing to do with russia before the turks of the settlement
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khadzhibey was founded by the tatars, led by khan khadzhi, hence the name is according to one ukrainian version, and according to another , lithuanians were a solid settlement, when in the xiv century the lands became part of the grand duchy of lithuania, there are no documents confirming these versions again. and how ukrainian odessa immediately appeared on the site of a non-russian settlement is also incomprehensible, but odessa is a city for sure , not russian, historians say in ukraine and the same convenient places . different peoples have settled on rivers and on the coast of the seas for centuries, but it ’s just hard to imagine that the irish will deny the contribution of the french to the construction of paris and its belonging to the french culture just because it stands here.
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on the site of the lute i will cut down the ancient settlement, the kets of the ancestors of the current ones, but for the ukrainian patriots, such logic can work about how in ukraine they are trying to rewrite the history of russia in the story anna efimova kherson september 2014 the usual workdays of city utilities employees carefully and lovingly clean the monument - to the founder of the city, prince potemkin , a large-scale war with monuments has not yet been what will happen in ukraine after the so-called revolution of dignity will be called decommunization, during which all the old values and foundations will be overturned along with numerous bronze and granite cultures in zaporozhye, the fight against monuments from the fourteenth year began, in fact, in the format of a widespread struggle, but zaporozhye was the only regional center in the post ukrainian space under the control of the regime. here is this gang of alcoholics. i would say junkies nazis in which
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the monument to lenin was filmed carefully, they didn’t knock it down. uh, several thousand people came out to protect the monuments, however. the authorities were hardly considered the opinion of local residents, or the attack swept through all regions of the country, and by january 2021, cities in ukraine reported on the destruction of the last memory. nick dedicated to the leader of the world proletariat, if lenin in ukraine was really too much in places. what was the fault of suvorov pushkin nikolay ostrovsky and general vatutin who liberated the capital of ukraine from the nazis is not entirely clear prohvatutina, by the way, he found the last shelter on kiev land and the monument that stood over the tombstone of the commander was demolished, despite the direct prohibitions on destroying burial places prescribed in the law on decommunization. from the very beginning, it was about de-russification and de-communization. it was a fig leaf in which she covered herself. oh yes, russification. here, it is very important to understand that d-communization is a tool. this is not the goal, and
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other sculptures were real shrines. it would seem for kiev an unshakable monument to the baptist of russia, prince vladimir in march 2017 years unknown poured red paint on this and other similar acts of vandalism in ukraine at unesco usually turn a blind eye, but when it came to the installation of a monument to grand duke vladimir in moscow and experts. from the same unesco they demanded to cut the pedestal so as not to violate only the cultural composition. the kremlin otherwise threatened to exclude this object from the world heritage list, where this specialized un agency turned out to be much less principled in matters of historical appearance. odessa is still standing in pushkin catherine's ukraine and all the rest of the russians have the right to consider us theirs, and we are not theirs despite the demolition of the monument to the founders of odessa publicly. just a monument to catherine unesco approved the inclusion of the historical center of odessa in the world heritage list. shelling of svyatogorsk, lavra, there are a lot of other
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shrines there, and uh, important, uh, historical , uh, moments for millions of people. unesco do not see do not hear. and well, it's okay, it happened, but here, uh, possible hostilities in odessa well, which they are trying turn into a stronghold of militants. zelensky are immediately prepared for such political decisions that, whatever happens, the russians are literally to blame for everything, written on their knees. the ukrainian application, which was full of excerpts from wikipedia and tourist guides, was considered by unesco according to the accelerated scheme of non-cultural passports of monuments, neither archival documents nor scientific publications. now, on the site of the monument to empress catherine, there is a pedestal on which a yellow-blocked flag with the word the ukrainian authorities are acting in the spirit of the bolsheviks themselves, whom they hated. the stave remained for a long time, because it was extremely. eh, well made. uh, engineers of the russian empire. and this is the step
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structure. it served first for the sickle and hammer, which was the first such sign, then for the head of concrete e. marx, at the same time , during the special military operation , russian troops did not purposefully destroy more than one cultural object. you can't say anything about the actions of the ukrainian authorities funds mariupol museum of local lore, for example, was not only not evacuated. 95% of the storage was simply destroyed by the retreating militants. azov, it turned out that the main building of the mariupol museum of local lore with his wife were burned, and the soot was specially e hmm on march 19th. e 22 years old. we restored these dates according to eyewitness accounts of local residents, and er, it burned down and was destroyed, just this part where the museum funds were located. against this background , a decision was made to evacuate cultural property from kherson to the left bank of the dnieper and ushakov's monuments to suvorov and potemkin look more than justified. i have always
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said that, unfortunately, the matter is not limited to monuments and graves. the main goal of this policy here. it consists in depriving people of a common past for all the years of independence, the ukrainian authorities. only the joint imperial heritage was diligently collapsing and mass demolishing monuments that were at least somehow connected with russian russian history and culture. the vacated pedestals were repainted with colors the national flag, on which the crooked iron demands of the new ukrainian heroes were fussily hoisted on them, and there is no anna the seventh valery anastasia popova is a typical people. about how they store and how they change the historical memory of novorossia. we will talk with our permanent expert historical political scientist alexander vasiliev. sasha good afternoon. good afternoon
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, another item has recently appeared on the list of endless claims of ukraine and russia. uh, ukraine accuses russia of stealing monuments to potemkin and suvorov from kherson. it looks at least strange, especially against the background of the fact that in the same odessa on ukrainian territory the same monuments were demolished . so what then is the essence of the claim? that within e fighting. russia sets the goal of destroying e cultural heritage literally by erasing the cultural code of ukraine and insov, and under this they make up, but similar, but examples, in fact, ukraine itself is eloquent. and uh, demonstrates we're watching
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uh, just erasing left traces in general, uh, russian culture. and if you look at the monument to suvorov, yes, then, for example, one of the first ones was dismantled a few years ago in kiev in front of a military lyceum. yes, there he was renamed then in person. yes, yes, quite right, and the monument was repeated, as if demolished without it, and in the same odessa, for example, and exactly the same, uh, the monument suffered, uh, which was called glory of the russian arms that defended odessa yes, this is a monument to the crimean war, in the case of kherson at the moment. they could just destroy a car there and so on. well, uh, that's why this measure at the beginning of this year was completely justified. ukraine has achieved the inclusion of the center of odessa in the list of unesco cultural heritage . although this process has been going on for quite a long time , starting, in my opinion, from 2009 or the tenth year,
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even more. actually. and why suddenly so ukraine hurried at the end of last year began to make a special effort. that's what, in fact, for them it is uh, what is the political meaning? as we say, a former deputy of the odessa city council. yes i am with e is well aware of this topic, since the idea to include the historical center of odessa in the unesco world heritage list is on her. well, i think that even since the nineties the vitals in the city have not been able to do this for two reasons, firstly, kiev was absolutely different. and if we look, here it is in general on the map, here is a unesco world heritage site on the territory of ukraine and here in the former borders, because most of them are western and central ukraine where apparently, there is an imbalance of the ministry of culture of ukraine sofia, it is obvious to the naked eye, and the second is that unesco has a very strict
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criterion. and, of course, according to strict and formal criteria. unesco - it was very difficult to let down, and suddenly everything happened very quickly, the most interesting thing that ukraine actively tried to contribute to e. here is the area odessa port. eh, this is generally a very interesting thing, because in the port itself. e. in general, well, there are some structures there, according to gauzes, uh, that have been preserved since pre-revolutionary times, but there are no special monuments, well, yes, that is, these are interesting objects that certainly deserve to be stored, but nothing, firstly, outstanding there, and secondly, well, a number of objects there, which are simply uh, have already been built there, again under ukraine, which there caused indignation of the entire architectural community up to europe but. now, all of a sudden, our port is equated to this, but it seems. opera house, of course, it is clear what this is about. ah, in reality, there is a military facility in the port, and this is infrastructure, which is
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a potential legitimate target. uh, for punches. and there will always be a reason to say that hit on for example, there, uh, martial king, a unique historical site is a hit on a unesco world heritage site . so this one is just extraordinary. and the most interesting thing in all this is that, and i held it in my hands. here is this document, it is something that is not, let’s say, secret yes, but the applications , but, which were filed a and in it , this very ekaterininskaya square appears with its pearl of this architectural father to the names of the founder of odessa yes, in which there is figure of potemkin yes among associates catherine, who surround her pedestal, and so there the photograph shows a whole paragraph of the text of catherine's square. at the same time, this one is already recognized. and so to speak, part of this architectural ensemble was destroyed, the most interesting thing is that already, when this
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application was filed, ukraine sent the members of the committee after the official application, as if a special open letter, which indicated that, in fact, the application is wrong, that it pays too much attention to the imperial e, the past of odessa a absolutely ignored, that this is actually not at all, the city founded by catherine and that this is what has already become an official inert in ukraine, but that this is a six-hundred-year-old city and that comes from the grand duchy of lithuania or how lithuanian is almost ukraine is very good . uh, an example of how ukrainian roots are searched for, where there are none. and this applies very often. e fate of the cities of the northern shoulder on the sea. yes, kherson, uh, mariupol turns out to be, uh, some kind of old ukrainian settlement. e s called domakh why is this
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happening at all? why is this being done now? because, and a typical new russia is a space that, until the end of the 18th century, really remained a wild field and was not mastered by modern european civilization. yes, there was a population , there were cossacks, there were nogai tamras who wandered here, but nothing like what in those days, and even now it is customary to call civilization, that is, cities, but states. yes, there was nothing like it there, and more than that it just wasn’t there, but it couldn’t be, because what is here such a wonderful document, which is very fond of in ukraine, and the constitution of philip orlyk, and together a wonderful clause prohibiting the construction of cities in the northern cave sea. that is, if it could not be applied. well, by definition, if this territory was, as it were, as they wanted, so to speak, was granted by the swedish king, here is some of this ukraine, that means hetman mazepa yes, and there is an eagle and their followers, then it was simply
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forbidden to build cities there. well, everyone knows and understands this very well. but if we remove this very concept of novorossiya. yes , in general, this historical narrative itself, and this emptiness needs to be filled with something. i don't fill. they announce that all of these cities. yes, they are ah, just nothing more than the potemkin ideas in it, and now the honorary residents of donetsk and the artistic director are trying to give us all this at face value of the ussr. donbass opera. vadim pisarev in donetsk and ballet troupe. vadim pisarev has been a soloist since the age of 18 he trained at the bolshoi and mariinsky theaters of russia at 19:00 he won medals at competitions in finland france and the united states of america 88 was invited to perform with a special program at the opening of the olympic games in golder and
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syria in the nineties, he wrote to worked in düsseldorf as the leading soloist of the ballet companies of the german opera house, then returned to donetsk became the artistic director of the donetsk opera and ballet theater organized a festival of world stars ballet. everything changed dramatically in the 2014 war. she put me on the ground. before. i kept flying on the ground , i didn’t walk very dear to me, donetsk i don’t know where such a love for this comes from in donetsk city, but we love it with some great love and always loved it even before the war; today in donetsk, cultural life in the usual format with evening performances, theater premieres and festivals is practically stopped, all teams work only on the road. donetsk artists know very well what war is from an interview with dmitry pisarev
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during a tour in saratov during the war years , our ballerinas developed an instinct. they are in the dance class, they never do windows because every minute, maybe even shelling on tour, girls are wary of such places habit about what the donbass opera and its artistic director dmitry pisarev live today in the plot of olga mokhova it's hard to believe outside the windows, some of which are clogged with plywood, there is a constant danger of shelling, and music sounds in the hall and a classical lesson is going on at the batman and tandyu player bench, rehearsals at the donbass opera did not
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stop all these war years and the performances went on until the last one until february 18, 2022. there were shellings once a shell exploded nearby during the performance. it was also in the fifteenth year. so we stopped the performance for a few minutes and, but the audience practically did not leave the theater, and we finished the performance. devotion, perhaps, is better not to characterize what is happening in donetsk, devotion to the profession, faith in the great power of art. they are all special here, but pisarev sets the mood, wherever this outstanding one is. no matter what heights he reached in ballet, the dancer always returned to his native city and stayed here when trouble came. my student years school years i always returned home to donetsk, as if after studying at the kiev choreographic school, no matter how they called me to the capital, and
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while working there, i returned to donetsk how many times i was in america and even articles were published there in columbus. e, pisarev station, the desire to show high art on his native mining land prompted vadim pisarev to create a festival of world ballet stars and donetsk once a year became a mecca, more than 500 stars from 35 countries of the world visited here almost without interruption and 24 festivals took place. and three of them already during the war and the sanctions, my dream is to resume everything, of course, in my homeland , in the homeland of prokofiev and because all the stars should be at least once a year in donetsk at the theater of the grateful vaganov academy of russian ballet and the moscow academy of choreography for the invitation to to study talented donetsk children. a pupil at the school of choreographic skill was supposed to go to st. petersburg and twelve-year-old katya kutubaeva, but she died during the shelling on august 4 last year, along with with my teacher galina volodina, of course,
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i would lie. if i said that no one here is afraid to come, uh, to the city center, even if there was no shelling of the center itself for a couple of days, but we should not forget that culture is there. uh, the very thing that will unite us and help us move forward, when mobilization was announced in donetsk, the artists left to fight 48 people, 10 so far at the front , one has died, and many have returned with injuries. we are already trying to ensure that, uh, all artists are charged specifically for creative work, because that we are dragging in a difficult time in itself. but when you are at work it distracts from all thoughts. last year, for the theater's anniversary , the premiere of borodin's opera prince igor was prepared here , the choice was not accidental. it was the very first performance, played 90 years ago on the donetsk stage, everything is ready for the show and vocal
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arches of a strict party, impressive scenery and luxurious costumes. this is costume 1 2 and 2 yaroslavna is the main character of the play. this is her headdress. we live during the war, we dream of peace in the donbass opera, in a special way reacted to the possibility of a joint production of war and peace based on the novel by leo tolstoy with the kremlin ballet, some artists have already gone to rehearsals in moscow and are working on swan lake with giselle don quixote in uniform and stop work. we can't do it every day. we go to work, get paid and keep fit. we are waiting for the opening of the theater in 2023, it promises a lot of premieres to the low audience, the artistic council of the theater
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has already approved the comic opera key on the pavement, and in the play the golden calf expect something completely different. reading known material to resume the same shows are ready as soon as it becomes possible and safe. this is how the side that is shelling us would be, if we put up a poster. that's what we'll get for these posters, therefore, it's better not to touch it, but we're ready. we have it all in the project. we have programs for everything, we will do it very quickly, and everything will buzz and sparkle. in the meantime, donetsk residents are touring a lot in russia last spring, they visited the south in autumn in the cities of the volga region, they admit that in many places they also had to become plenipotentiaries donbass, talking about what is happening on their land, but everywhere they were welcomed and everywhere the russian audience applauded donetsk artist and donetsk courage olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev is a typical novorossiya. that's all we wanted
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