hello. kirill vyshinsky is with you, and this is a typical novorossiya program, our new name says it all, we will talk about the territory that returned to its historical roots - novorossiya with the help of a close look at the history of novorossiya. we will try to reveal the originality of

the present day, to find in it the typical features and recognizable signs of the past. and that's what we'll talk about today. odessa without deribas and cossack mariupol ukrainian version on borussia why do we need the history of novorossiya without russia conversation with the program expert is the best the dancer of europe lives in donetsk lately, pseudo-historical stories about how everything really happened have become popular in ukraine, especially a lot of them about novorossia. the meaning of these stories. it's just that there were never russians here before them. here everything was mastered, colonized and laid down. and these came to everything ready. the main argument long

before the russian empire began to develop the extent of the northern black sea region. here everything was already mastered by the greeks in the third-fourth centuries bc, and you can’t argue archaeologists confirm that the bosporan the kingdom that united the cities of the greek colony really existed in the crimea and the black sea region. true, in ukraine they forget to say that the steppe nomads, the huns, finally destroyed it in the fourth century ad. after that , both genoese and tatar and many other settlements existed in the crimea and new russia. but there was no purposeful and systematic development of these territories with the construction of cities , the creation of a fleet and a change in the social structure of the inhabitants of the region. all this appeared only

under the russian empire, but even the greeks ancient or present in ukraine to give land. new russia is not going to, because they are primordially cossack, which means that the newly-minted historian does not need to go for ukrainian arguments. here is how, for example, historical claims to the ancient ukrainianness of mariupol are substantiated. the history of this city is well known in 1779, by decree of catherine the great, at the confluence of the kalmius river into the sea of ​​\u200b\u200bazov, mariupol was founded where the greeks settled, but in ukraine they claim they were the first to break here in the fifteenth or sixteenth century domakh settlement zaporizhia cossacks called the cossack turkish trophy, a damascus steel saber, a domakha, which means that ukrainian lands

do not find any official confirmation of the existence of this settlement in chronicles or other documents, but this is a ukrainian historian, and there is no need for even funnier story came out with odessa beautiful well-known, that by decree of catherine the port and the city on the site of a turkish fortress. hadzhibey was founded and built by a spanish nobleman in russian service. deribas in honor of him. on the central street of odessa imperial decrees historical facts are important for reference ukrainian patriots odessa is a ukrainian city and has nothing to do with russia before the turks , the settlement of khadzhibey was founded by the tatars, led by khan khadzhi. century land became part of the grand duchy of lithuania

documents confirming these versions again no. and how ukrainian odessa immediately appeared on the site of a non-russian settlement, too it’s not clear, but odessa is a city for sure, not russian historians say convenient places in ukraine by rivers on the coast of the seas, different peoples have settled for centuries, but it’s hard to imagine that the irish will deny the contribution of the french to the construction of paris and its belonging to french culture just because what stands here in place of the lutetium of the parizor of the ancient settlement, the kets of the ancestors of the current irish, but for the ukrainian patriots, such logic can work about how they are trying to rewrite history in ukraine

novorossiya in the story anna efimova kherson september 2014 ordinary working life of city public utilities employees carefully and lovingly clean the monument to the founder of the city, prince potemkin , a large-scale war with monuments, until what will happen in ukraine after the so-called revolution of dignity will be called decommunization, in during which all the old values ​​​​and foundations will be overturned, along with numerous bronze and granite sculptures in zaporozhye, the struggle with monuments from the fourteenth year began, in fact format of widespread struggle, but zaporozhye was the only regional center in the post of ukrainian space controlled by the regimes. here is this gang of alcoholics. i would say the drug addicts of the nazis, in which the monument to lenin was removed neatly, did not dump him. uh, several thousand people came out to protect the monuments, however. the authorities were hardly considered the opinion of local residents, or the attack swept through all regions of the country, and by january 2021 in ukraine they proudly

reported on the destruction of the last pas. mint dedicated to driving the world the proletariat, if lenin in ukraine in some places really was a bit too much. what was wrong with nikolay ostrovsky's suvorov pushkin and general vatutin, who liberated the capital of ukraine from the nazis, is not entirely clear prohvatutina. by the way, he found the last shelter on kiev land and the monument that stood over the tombstone of the commander was demolished, despite directly the prohibitions to destroy the burial places prescribed in the law, and decommunization from the very began talking about de-russification, de-communization. it was a fig leaf in which she covered herself. uh yeah russification. here it is very important to understand that decommunization is a tool. this is not the goal of another sculpture, a real shrine. it would seem that for kiev, an unshakable monument to the baptist of russia, prince vladimir, in march 2017, the unknown were the red paint on this and other similar acts of vandalism in ukraine , unesco usually turned a blind eye, but when

it came to installing a monument to grand duke vladimir in moscow, experts. from the same unesco they demanded to cut the pedestal so as not to violate the history of the cultural composition. the omsk kremlin otherwise threatened to exclude this object from the world heritage list, where this specialized un agency turned out to be much less principled in matters of historical appearance. odessa is still standing in ukraine pushkin catherine and all the rest of the russians have the right to consider us their own, and we are not theirs despite the demolition of the monument to the founders of odessa and among the people it’s just catherine’s policy unesco approved the inclusion of the historical center of odessa in the world heritage list. shelling of the svyatogorsk lavra. there are a lot of other shrines there, and uh important uh historical uh moments for millions of people. unesco does not see or hear. and well, nothing terrible happened. and here, uh, perhaps the fighting in odessa well, which

the militants are trying to turn into a stronghold. zelensky are immediately prepared for such political decisions that, whatever happens, the russians are literally to blame for everything, written on their knees. and the ukrainian application, which was full of excerpts from wikipedia and tourist guides, was considered by unesco under the accelerated scheme of non-cultural passports monuments of non-orchid documents, nor scientific publications. now , on the site of the monument to empress catherine, the pedestal, on which the yellow-block flag is cut, in a word , the ukrainian authorities are acting quite in the spirit of the bolsheviks themselves hated by them, the pedestal remained for a long time, because it was extremely. eh, well made. uh, engineers of the russian empire. and this is the step structure. she served first for the hammer and sickle, which was the first such sign, then for the head of concrete e, while marx during the special operation by russian

the troops did not purposefully destroy more than one cultural object. you can’t say anything about the actions of the ukrainian authorities, the funds of the mariupol museum of local lore, for example, not only were not evacuated. 95% of the storage was simply destroyed by the retreating militants. azov, it turned out that the main building of the mariupol museum of local lore with his wife were burned, and the soot was specially e hmm on march 19th. e 22 years old. we restored these dates according to eyewitness accounts of local residents, and, uh, it burned down just as it was destroyed, just this is the part where were museum funds. against this background , a decision was made to evacuate from kherson to the left bank, not about the cultural values ​​​​and monuments of ushakov to suvorov and potemkin , look more than justified. i have always said that, unfortunately, the matter is not limited to monuments and graves. and the main goal of this policy is this. it consists in depriving people of the common last year of independence of the ukrainian

authorities. only diligently collapsed the joint imperial heritage of mass demolished monuments that somehow were associated with russian russian history and culture. the vacant pedestals were repainted with the colors of the national flag, onto which the crooked iron demands of the new ukrainian heroes were fussily unloaded on them, and there was no anna the seventh valery anastasia popova typical about how the historical memory of novorossia is preserved and changed. we will talk with our permanent expert to historians and political scientist alexander vasiliev. sasha good afternoon. good afternoon , another item has recently appeared on the list of endless claims of ukraine and russia. uh, ukraine accuses russia of stealing monuments to potemkin and

suvorov from kherson. it looks at least strange, especially against the background of the fact that in the same odessa on ukrainian territory the same monuments were demolished . so what then is the essence of the claim? that within e fighting. russia sets the goal of destroying the cultural heritage of the literally cultural code of ukraine and insov, and under this they make up, but similar, but examples, actually ukraine itself is eloquent. and, uh, we are seeing, uh, just erasing leftist traces of, uh, russian culture in general. and if you look at the monument to suvorov, yes, then, for example, one of the first ones was dismantled a few years ago in kiev in front of a military lyceum. yes there and so

on. quite right, and the monument was , i repeat, as if demolished without it, and in the same odessa, for example, and it suffered in the same way. a monument, uh, which was called glory to the russian arms that defended odessa yes , this is a monument to the crimean war, in the case of kherson at that moment simply could have been destroyed by shooting there by blowing up and so on. that is why this measure at the beginning of this year was completely justified. ukraine has achieved the inclusion of the center of odessa in the unesco cultural heritage list. although the process has been going on for quite a long time, starting, in my opinion, from 2009 or the tenth year, the champion, even more . actually. and why suddenly so ukraine hurried at the end of last year began to make a special effort. that's what, in fact, for them it is uh, what is the political meaning? as we say, and the former

member of the odessa city council. yes, i am well acquainted with this topic, because, uh, the idea to include the historical center of odessa in the unesco world heritage list is on. well, i think that even since the nineties there have been vitals in the city . but it doesn’t matter to do this for two reasons, firstly, kiev was absolutely indifferent . and if we look, here it is in general on the map of the unesco world heritage site on the territory of ukraine, still within the former borders, because we see that most of them are western and central ukraine where it is visible, there is an imbalance of the ministry of culture of ukraine sofia, it is obvious to the naked eye, and the second is that unesco has a very strict criterion. and of course, according to strict formal criteria. unesco - it was very difficult to let down, and suddenly everything happened very quickly, the most interesting thing that ukraine actively tried to contribute to e. here is the area odessa port. eh, this is generally a very

interesting thing, because in the port itself. e. in general, well, there are some buildings there , uh, that have been preserved since pre-revolutionary times, but special monuments no, yes, that is, these are interesting objects that certainly deserve to be stored, but , firstly, there is nothing outstanding, and secondly, well, a number of objects are there that are just, uh, already there were built again in ukraine, which caused outrage there all the architectural community up to europe as well. now, all of a sudden, our port is equated to this, but it seems. opera house, of course, it is clear what this is about. ah, in reality, there is a military facility in the port, and this is infrastructure, which is a potential legitimate target. uh, for punches. yes, and there will always be a reason to say that a blow to for example, there, er, the military king, is a unique historical object. this is a blow to a unesco world heritage site. that is, this one is just extraordinary. and the most

interesting thing in all this is that, and i held it in my hands. here is this document , it is somehow not, let's say so secret yes, but the applications , but, which were filed a and in it , this very ekaterininskaya square appears with its pearl, this is in the architectural father names of the founder of odessa yes, here, in which there is also the figure of potemkin yes, among the associates of catherine who surrounds her pedestal , so there the photograph shows a whole paragraph of the text of catherine's square. at the same time, this one is already recognized. and so to speak, part of this architectural ensemble was destroyed, the most interesting thing is that already, when this application was filed, ukraine sent the members of the committee after the official application, as if a special open letter, in which it was pointed out that, in fact, the application was incorrect, that it was too surprised at the attention to the imperial e, the past

of odessa, but it was completely ignored, that this is actually no e, the city was founded by catherine and that this is something that has already become an official inertia in ukraine but that this is a 600-year-old city and that comes from the grand duchy of lithuania or how lithuanian is almost ukraine is very good. uh, an example of how ukrainian roots are searched for, where there are none. and this applies very often. uh, the fate of the cities of the north shoulder sea. uh, kherson, uh, mariupol turns out to be, uh, some kind of old ukrainian settlement. e with the name domakh and why is this happening at all? why is this being done now? because, and a typical new russia is a space that, until the end of the 18th century, really remained a wild field and was not mastered by modern european

civilization. yes, there was a population , there were cossacks, there were nogai tamras, who wandered here, but nothing like e, then what in those days, and even now it is commonly called civilization, that is, cities, but states. yes, there was nothing like it there, and more than this not just was not, but could not be , because there is such a wonderful document that is very loved in ukraine and the constitution of philip orlyk, but a wonderful clause prohibiting the construction of cities in the north sea. that is, if it could not come, in principle, return it. if this territory, as it were, as they wanted, so to speak, was granted by the swedish king, here is some of this ukraine, that means hetman mazepa yes, and there is an eagle and their followers, it was simply forbidden to build cities there. well, everyone knows and understands this very well. but, if we remove this very concept of novorossiya. yes, in general , this historical narrative itself, and this emptiness needs to be filled with something. i don't fill. they announce that all of these cities. yes, they are

ah, just nothing more than the potemkin ideas in it, and now they are trying to give us all this at face value. thank you very much sasha for a detailed interesting story. this man could follow in the footsteps of his father or uncle and to become a miner, his father worked at one of the most famous steps in the donbass named zasyadko chopped coal, but he began to dance on the ballet stage and in 1995 was recognized as the best dancer in europe, people's artist of the ussr , an honorary resident of donetsk and artistic director. donbass opera. vadim pisarev in the donetsk ballet troupe. vadim pisarev was a soloist from the age of eighteen trained at the bolshoi and mariinsky theaters of russia at 19:00 won medals at competitions

in finland, france and the united states of america 88 in the eighth was invited to perform with special program at the opening of the olympic games in calgary and syria, the nineties wrote, worked in dusseldorf as the leading soloist of the ballet companies of the german opera house, then returned to donetsk, became the artistic director of the donetsk opera and ballet theater , organized the star world ballet festival. everything changed dramatically in the 2014 war. she put me on the ground. before. i kept flying on the ground, i didn’t walk very dear to me, donetsk i don’t know where our danes have such love for this city, but we love it with some kind of great love and have always loved even before the war, cultural

life in donetsk today in its usual format with evening performances, theatrical premieres and festivals, has practically been stopped; all teams work only on the spot. donetsk artists know very well what it is. war from an interview with dmitry pisarev during a tour in saratov during the war years, our ballerinas developed an instinct. they never do windows in the classroom, because every minute, maybe, shelling, even on tour, the girls are wary of such places as a habit. about what donbass lives today

the opera and its artistic director dmitry pisarev in olga mokhova’s story it’s hard to believe outside the windows, some of which are clogged with plywood and the constant danger of shelling, and music sounds in the hall and a classical lesson is going on at the batman and tandyu player bench rehearsals at the donbass opera did not stop all these war years and performances went to the last until february 18, 2022. there were shelling once a shell exploded nearby during a performance. it was also in the fifteenth year. so we stopped the performance for a few minutes, but the audience practically did not go to the theater, and we finished the game, perhaps it is better not to characterize what is happening in donetsk , devotion to the profession, faith in the great power of art. they are all special here, but pisarev sets the mood, wherever this outstanding one is. whatever heights he reached in ballet, he always returned to his native city and stayed here when trouble came,

if you remember. my student years school years i always returned home to donetsk as if after studying kiev choreographic school, no matter what the name me to the capital, and i work there, i returned to donetsk how many times have i been to america there , even articles were published in columbus. uh, pisareva station desire to show the native mining land. high art prompted vadim pisarev to create a festival of world ballet stars and once a year donetsk became a ballet place, more than 500 stars from 35 countries of the world visited here almost without interruption and 24 festivals took place. moreover, three of them are already during the war and the sanctions, my dream is to resume everything, of course, in my homeland roads, not prokofiev but because all the stars should be at least once a year in donetsk in the theater of the grateful academy of russian ballet named after vaganov and moscow aka.

choreography for inviting talented donetsk children of students of the school of choreographic skill to study in st. petersburg and twelve-year-old katya kutubaeva, but she died during the shelling on august 4 last year, along with her teacher galina volodina, of course, i would have collected. if i said that no one here is afraid to come, uh, to the city center, even if there was no shelling of the very center for a couple of days, we must not forget that culture is what it is. uh, the very thing that will unite us and help us move forward, when mobilization was announced in donetsk, the artists left to fight 48 people, 10 so far at the front , one has died, and many have returned with injuries. we are already trying to ensure that, uh, all artists are sparse for creative work, because we are drawing in a difficult time in itself. but when they pull into work, it distracts from all

thoughts last year for the anniversary of the theater here prepared the premiere of borodin's opera prince igor , the choice was not accidental - it was the very first performance. played 90 years ago on the donetsk stage, everything is ready to order and the vocal orchestral parts, impressive scenery and luxurious costumes. yaroslavna the main character we live in a time of war, but we dream of peace at the donbass opera, some artists have already gone to rehearsals in moscow and work in their native walls in a special way over swan lake giselle don quixote in the form and stop work. we can't do it every

day. we go to work, get paid and keep fit. we are waiting for the opening of the theater opera buf don giovanni and the jack of scheherazade in 2023 promises a lot of premieres to the low audience . the artistic council of the theater has already approved the comic opera key on the pavement, while in the play the golden calf, something completely different is expected. reading known material to resume the same shows are ready as soon as it becomes possible and safe. here, as it were, the side that is shelling us, if we put up a poster, then we will receive for these posters. therefore, it is better not to touch it, but we are ready. we have all this in the project. we have programs for everything, we will do it very quickly, and everything will buzz and sparkle. in the meantime, the donetsk people are touring a lot in russia last spring, they visited the south in autumn in the cities of the volga region, they admit that in many places they also had to become plenipotentiaries of the donbass talking about what is happening

on their land, but everywhere they were welcomed cordially and everywhere the russian audience applauded the donetsk artist and donetsk courage olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev is a typical new russia. that's all we wanted to talk about. kirill vyshinsky was with you today. see you soon. we closed a loan with a guaranteed rate service. that's not all, how to pay and the bank will return the post office on time, the difference in money, after recalculating the loan, put 4.5% per annum. come for money mail bank sbermarket - this is a benefit in every order products from your favorite stores with discounts up to 60% sbermarket. delivery

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