hello. kirill vyshinsky is with you, and this program is a typical novorossiya, our new name says it all, we will talk about the territory that has returned to its historical roots, on the contrary to russia, with the help of a careful look at the history of novorossiya. we will try to reveal the originality of her present day, to find in it typical features and recognizable signs of the past. and that's what we'll talk about today. odessa without deribas and cossack mariupol ukrainian variant of oborussiya why do we need a history

of novorossiya without russia a conversation with an expert programs the best dancers in europe recently, pseudo-historical stories about how everything really happened have become popular in ukraine, especially a lot of them about novorossia. the meaning of these stories. it's just that there were never russians here before them. here everything was mastered, colonized and laid down. and these came to everything, ready. the main argument long before the russian empire began to develop. steppes of the northern black sea region. here everything was already mastered by the greeks in the third -fourth centuries bc, and you can’t argue with archaeologists confirming that the bosporus kingdom, which united the cities with a colony of greeks, really existed in

the crimea and the black sea region. true, in ukraine they forget to say that the steppe nomads , the huns, finally destroyed it in the fourth century of our era. after that , both genoese and tatar and many other settlements existed in the crimea and new russia. but there was no purposeful and systematic development of these territories with the construction of cities, the creation of a fleet and a change in the social structure of the inhabitants of the region. all this appeared only under the russian empire, but even the greeks of the ancient or present in ukraine to give land. new russia is not going to, because they are primordially cossack, which means that the newly-minted historian does not need to go for ukrainian arguments. here, for example, the historical claims to

the ancient ukrainianness of mariupol are substantiated. this city is well known in 1779 by the decree of catherine the great at the confluence of the kalmius river into the sea of ​​\u200b\u200bazov. mariupol was founded where the greeks settled, but in ukraine they claim the first to break here in the fifteenth or sixteenth century domakh zaporizhzhya settlement the cossacks called the cossack turkish trophy, the damascus steel saber a domakha, which means that ukrainian lands do not find any official confirmation of the existence of this settlement in chronicles or other documents, but this is a ukrainian historian, and there is no need for even funnier story came out with odessa wonderful. it is known that by decree of catherine the port and the city on the site of a turkish fortress. hadzhibey founded and built a spanish nobleman in russian

service osip deribas named after him the central street of odessa but do imperial decrees and historical facts matter to ukrainians? patriots odessa is a ukrainian city and has nothing to do with russia before the turks. the settlement of khadzhibey was founded by the tatars, led by khan khadzhi . confirming these versions again no. and how ukrainian odessa immediately appeared on the site of a non-russian settlement, too it is not clear, but odessa is a city for sure, not russian historians say in ukraine and the same convenient places near the river on the coast of the seas,

different peoples have settled for centuries, but it’s just hard to imagine that the irish will deny the contribution of the french to the construction of paris and its belonging to french culture. just because he stands in the place of the lute and will cut down the ancient settlement of the celts of the ancestors of the current irish, but for the ukrainian patriots, such logic can work about how in ukraine they are trying to rewrite history in the story of anna efimova kherson september 2014 the usual workdays of city public utilities employees carefully and lovingly clean the monument to the founder of the city, prince potemkin, a large-scale war with monuments, until what will happen in ukraine after the so-called revolution of dignity will be called decommunization, during which all the former

values ​​and foundations will be overturned along with numerous bronze and granite sculptures in zaporozhye, the fight against monuments began in the fourteenth year, in fact, in format of widespread struggle, but zaporozhye was the only regional center. it is simply the ukrainian space controlled by the regime. here is this gang of alcoholics. i would say the drug addicts, in which the monument to lenin was filmed carefully, did not dump him. uh, several thousand people came out to protect the monuments, however. the authorities were hardly considered the opinion of local residents, or the attack swept through all regions of the country, and by january 2021, in ukraine, gordor was selling about the destruction of the last pa. a penny dedicated to driving the world proletariat, if lenin in ukraine in some places really was a lot there. what was wrong with nikolay ostrovsky's suvorov pushkin and general vatutin, who liberated the capital of ukraine from the nazis, is not entirely clear prohvatutina. by the way, he found

the last shelter on kiev land and the monument that stood over the tombstone of the commander was demolished, despite directly the prohibitions to destroy the burial places prescribed in the law, and decommunization from the very began talking about de- russification, decommunization. it was a fig leaf in which she covered herself. oh yes russification. this is what is very important understand that decommunization is a tool. this is not the goal of another sculpture, a real shrine. it would seem for kiev that the monument to the baptist of russia, prince vladimir, was unshakable in march 2017. in march 2017, unknown people poured red paint on this and other similar acts of vandalism in ukraine, unesco usually turned a blind eye, but when it came to installing a monument to grand duke vladimir in moscow, experts. from the same unesco they demanded to cut the pedestal so as not to violate the history of the cultural composition. kholsky kremlin otherwise case, they threatened to exclude this object from the world heritage list, where this specialized un agency turned out to be much less principled in matters

of historical appearance. odessa is still in ukraine pushkin catherine and all the rest of the russians have the right to consider us their own, and we are not theirs despite the demolition of the monument to the founders of odessa and the people just water catherine unesco approved the inclusion of the historical center of odessa in the world heritage list. shelling of the svyatogorsk lavra. there are a lot of other shrines there, and uh important uh historical uh, moments for millions of people. unesco does not see or hear. and well, it's okay , it happened, but here, uh, possible hostilities in odessa well, which the militants are trying to turn into a stronghold. zelensky are immediately prepared for such political decisions that, whatever happens, the russians are literally to blame for everything, written on their knees. and the ukrainian application, which was full of excerpts from wikipedia and tourist guides, was considered by unesco under the accelerated scheme of non-cultural passports monuments of non-orchid documents, nor scientific

publications. now, on the site of the monument to empress catherine, the pedestal on which the yellow-block flag is cut up, in a word , the ukrainian authorities act quite in the spirit of the bolsheviks themselves hated by them, the pedestal remained for a long time, because it was extremely. eh, well made. uh, engineers of the russian empire. and this is the step structure. it served first for the hammer and sickle, which was the first such sign, then for the head of the concrete e. marx at the same time during a special military operation russian troops did not purposefully destroy more than one cultural object. you can't say anything about the action of the ukrainian authorities, the funds of the mariupol museum of local lore, for example, not only did not evacuate. 95% of the storage was simply destroyed by the retreating militants. azov, it turned out that the main building of the mariupol museum of local lore with his wife were burned, and the soot was specially e

hmm on march 19th. e 22 years old. we restored these dates according to eyewitness accounts of local residents, and, uh, it burned down just as it was destroyed, just uh. that part was museum funds. against this background, a decision was made to evacuate cultural values ​​and monuments of ushakov to suvorov and potyomkin from kherson to the left bank of the dnieper, they look more than justified. i have always said that , unfortunately, the matter is not limited to monuments and graves. and the main goal of this policy is this. it consists in depriving people of a common past for all the years of independence, the ukrainian authorities. only diligently collapsing joint imperial heritage mass demolished the monuments that at least somehow connected with russian russian history and culture. the vacated pedestals were repainted with the colors of the national flag, on which the crooked iron demands of the new ukrainian heroes were fussily placed on them, and

there was no such thing as anna and the seventh valery anastasia popova , typical news. about how they store and how they change the historical memory of novorossia. we will talk with our permanent expert to historians and political scientist alexander vasiliev. sasha good afternoon. good afternoon in the list of endless claims of ukraine and to russia has recently added another item. uh, ukraine accuses russia of stealing the monuments to potemkin and suvorov from kherson. this looks at least strange, especially against the background of the fact that in the same odessa on ukrainian territory the same monuments were demolished . within the framework of hostilities. russia

sets the goal of destroying e cultural heritage literally in the erasure of the cultural code of ukraine and insy and under this podverstyvayutsya, but similar, but examples, in fact, ukraine itself is eloquent. and, uh, we are seeing, uh, just erasing leftist traces of, uh, russian culture in general. and if you look at the monument to suvorov, yes, then, for example, one of the first ones was dismantled a few years ago in kiev in front of a military lyceum. yes, there it was renamed then in the face quite right, and the monument was repeated, as if demolished without it, and in the same odessa, for example, and it suffered in the same way. e monument, uh, which was called the glory of russian weapons that defended odessa yes, this is a monument. e hmm the crimean war

in the case of kherson at that moment simply could have been destroyed by shooting there by blowing up and so on. well, uh, that's why this measure at the beginning of this year was completely justified. ukraine has achieved the inclusion of the center of odessa in the list of unesco cultural heritage. although this process has been going on for quite a long time, starting, in my opinion, from 2009 or the tenth year, even more . actually. and why suddenly so ukraine hurried at the end of last year began to make special efforts. that's what, in fact, for them it's uh, what's the political point? as we say, a former deputy of the odessa city council. yes, i am well acquainted with this topic , because, uh, the idea to include the historical center of odessa in the unesco world heritage list is on. well, i think that even since the nineties there have been vitals in the city. but it doesn’t matter to do this for two reasons, firstly,

kiev was absolutely indifferent. and if we look, here it is in general on the map of the unesco world heritage site on the territory of ukraine, still within its former borders, because we see that most of them are western and central ukraine where, apparently, there is an imbalance of the ministry of culture of ukraine sofia, it is obvious to the naked eye, and the second is that unesco has a very strict criterion. and, of course, according to strict and formal criteria. unesco - it was very difficult to let down, and suddenly everything happened very quickly, the most interesting thing that ukraine actively tried to contribute to e. here is the area odessa port. eh, this is generally a very interesting thing, because in the port itself. e. in general, well, there are some structures there according to gauzes, uh, which have been preserved since pre-revolutionary times, but there are no special monuments. well, yes, that is, this is an interesting object that certainly deserves to be stored, but there is nothing, firstly, outstanding, and secondly, well, a whole series objects there, which

are simply uh, already there were built again in ukraine, which caused outrage there all the architectural community up to europe a. now, all of a sudden, our port is equated to this, but it seems. opera house, of course, it is clear what this is about. a-a in in reality, there is a military facility in the port, and this is infrastructure, which is a potential legitimate target. uh, for punches. yes, and there will always be a reason to say that a blow to for example, there, er, the military king, is a unique historical object. this is a blow to a unesco world heritage site. that is, this one is just extraordinary. and the most interesting thing in all this is that, and i held it in my hands. here is this document, it is somehow not, let's say so secret yes, but the applications, a, which were filed by a and b, uh, this very ekaterininskaya square appears with its pearl of this architecture

to the creators of the founder of odessa yes, here, in which there is also the figure of potemkin yes, among the associates of catherine who surround her pedestal , so there the photograph shows a whole paragraph of the text of catherine's square. at the same time, this one is already recognized. and so to speak, part of this architectural ensemble was destroyed, the most interesting thing is that already, when this application was filed, ukraine sent the members of the committee after the official application, as if a special open letter, in which it was pointed out that, in fact, the application was incorrect, that too much attention was paid to the imperial e, the past of odessa, but it was completely ignored, that this is actually no e, the city was founded by catherine and that this is something that has already become an official archive in ukraine a that this is a six hundred year old city and which comes from the grand duchy of lithuania or, as lithuanian, it is almost ukraine very good. uh, an example of how ukrainian

roots are searched for, where there are none. and this applies very often. e fate of the cities of the northern shoulder on sea. yes, kherson, uh, mariupol turns out to be, uh, some kind of old ukrainian settlement. e with the name domakh and why is this happening at all? why is this being done now? because, and a typical new russia is a space that, until the end of the 18th century, really remained a wild field and was not mastered by modern european civilization. yes, there was a population, there were cossacks, there were nogai tamras who wandered here, but nothing like e, then what in those days, and even now it is customary to call civilization, that is, cities, but states. yes, there was nothing like it there, and more than that it just didn’t exist, but it couldn’t be, because there is such a wonderful document that

is very loved in ukraine, and the constitution of philip orlyk is a wonderful clause prohibiting the construction of cities in the northern cave sea. that is, if it could not come, in principle, ver. if this territory , as it were, as they wanted, so to speak, was granted by the swedish king, here’s some of this ukraine, that means hetman mazepa yes, and there the eagle and their followers, then it was simply forbidden there build cities. well, everyone knows and understands this very well. but, if we remove this very concept of novorossiya. yes, in general , this historical narrative itself, and this emptiness needs to be filled with something. i don't fill. they announce that all of these cities. yes, they are ah, just nothing more than the potemkin ideas in it, and now they are trying to give us all this at face value. thank you very much sasha for a detailed interesting story. this person could follow in the footsteps of his father or uncle and

become a miner, his father worked on one of the most famous step of the donbas named after the zasyadka was chopping coal, but he began to dance on the ballet stage and in 1995 was recognized as the best dancer in europe, people's artist of the ussr , an honorary resident of donetsk and artistic director. donbass opera. vadim pisarev in the donetsk ballet troupe. vadim pisarev was a soloist from the age of eighteen trained at the bolshoi and mariinsky theaters of russia at 19:00 won medals at the competitions in finland, france and the united states of america 88 in the eighth was invited to perform a special program at the opening the olympic games in calgary and syria the nineties wrote in düsseldorf as the leading soloist of the ballet companies of the german

opera house, then returned to donetsk, became the artistic director of the donetsk opera and ballet theater and organized the star world ballet festival. everything changed dramatically in 2014 , the war put me on the ground. before. i kept flying on the ground, i didn’t go very dear to me, donetsk i don’t know where our danes have such love for this city, but we love it with some kind of great love and always loved it even before the war today in donetsk cultural life in the usual format with evening performances, theatrical premieres and festivals, all groups have practically stopped working only on the road. donetsk artists know very well what war is from an interview with dmitry pisarev during a tour in saratov during the war years

, our ballerinas developed an instinct. they dance class, never take up windows, because every minute, maybe shelling, even on tour girls are wary of such places habit. about what the donbass opera and its artistic director are doing today dmitry pisarev in the plot of olga mokhova to believe outside the windows, some of which are clogged with plywood, the constant danger of shelling, and music sounds in the hall and there is a classical lesson at the batman machine and the tanduplie rehearsal at the donbass opera did not stop all these war years and the performances went on until the last february 18, 2022.

there were shelling once a shell exploded nearby during a performance. it was also in the fifteenth year. so we stopped the performance for a few minutes, but the audience practically did not leave the theater, and we finished the game, perhaps it is better not to characterize what is happening in donetsk, devotion to the profession, faith in the great power of art. they are all special here, but the mood sets into one outstanding. whatever heights he reached in ballet, he always returned to his native city and stayed here when trouble came, if you remember. my student years school years i always returned home to donetsk as if after studying the kiev choreographic school, no matter how they called me to the capital, and while working there i returned to donetsk how many times i was in america there, even articles were published in columbus.

e, the pisarev station, the desire to show high art in their native mining land prompted vadim pisarev to create a festival of world ballet stars and once a year donetsk became a ballet mecca , more than 500 stars from 35 countries of the world visited here almost without interruption and 24 festivals took place. moreover, three of them were already during the war and the sanctions are my dream - to resume everything, of course, in my homeland in the homeland of prokofiev and because all the stars should be at least once a year in donetsk in theater of the grateful vaganova academy of russian ballet and the moscow choir academy. twelve-year-old katya kutubayeva was supposed to go to st. petersburg for inviting talented donetsk children of students of the school of choreographic skill to study, but she died during the shelling on august 4 last year, along with her teacher galina volodina, of course, i would lie. if i said that no one here is afraid to come, uh, to the city center,

even if there was no shelling of the center itself for a couple of days, but we should not forget that culture is what it is. uh, the very thing that will unite us and help us move forward, when mobilization was announced in donetsk, the artists left to fight 48 people, 10 so far at the front , one has died, and many have returned with injuries. we are already trying to ensure that, uh, all artists are sparse for creative work, because we are drawing in a difficult time in itself. but when you nut at work it distracts from all thoughts last year for the anniversary of the theater they prepared the premiere of borodin's opera prince igor , the choice is not accidental. it was the very first performance, played 90 years ago. on the donetsk stage, everything is already ready for the show and the vocal arches of the party slings, impressive scenery and luxurious costumes. this is the costume

one and the second yaroslavna is the main character of the play. this is her headdress. we live during the war, we dream of peace at the donbass opera, we have a special attitude to the possibility of a joint production of war and peace based on the novel by leo tolstoy with the kremlin ballet , some artists have already gone to rehearsals in moscow, and in their native walls they are working on swan lake with giselle don quixote in form and stop working. we can't do it every day. we go to work, get paid and keep fit. looking forward to the opening of the theatre. opera boof don juan and the jack of scheherazade 2023 promises a lot of premieres for the low audience . the artistic council of the theater has already approved the comic opera key on the pavement, while in the play the golden calf, something completely different is expected. reading known

material to resume the same shows are ready as soon as it becomes possible and safe. this is how the side that is shelling us would be, if we put up a poster. so it's better not touch, but we are ready. we have all this in the project. we have programs for everything, we will do it very quickly, and everything will buzz and sparkle. in the meantime, the donetsk people are touring a lot in russia last spring, they visited the south in autumn in the cities of the volga region, they admit that in many places they also had to become plenipotentiaries of the donbass talking about what is happening on their land, but everywhere they were welcomed cordially and everywhere the russian audience applauded the donetsk artist and donetsk courage olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev typical novorossia. that's all we wanted

to talk about. kirill vyshinsky was with you today. see you soon. for this case it will be an honest detective.

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