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the moscow university of the balloon system. why is reform needed, if we take the end of the nineties, and the beginning of the zero years, then it was a completely different country and a different economy; other political conditions we have; in accordance with the request of the labor market to prepare hmm e or get in-depth or professional knowledge. e, magistracy, uh, in a year, how the bologna convention influenced the russian educational community , we must pay tribute to the fact that the bologna process contributed to what we felt, but we pull the strength of our education, and the transition to the bachelor’s system of the magistracy allowed us to significantly strengthen the export of our education and whether reform is needed for the unified
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state examination is much talked about, uh about the fact that we will now cancel the use conventions. in the first days of spring, moscow state university hosted distinguished guests of delegates of the eurasian association of universities, representatives of 125 universities from 18 countries came to the russian capital to discuss the future of higher education, scientific interaction and strengthen academic ties. now we need to think about the development of education for all, and it seems to me that our president vladimir vladimirovich set the task very clearly in his message. it seems to me that further discussion should not be such a step. first it's us
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passed. here is the next fundamental task. and most importantly, our scientific achievements should be transferred to all education and secondary specialists. that is, this is a five-six-year education that really prepares for real, knowledgeable people an emphasis on the solidity of depth. some 20 years ago, when russian students were lured into the bologna system , viktor sadovnichy argued that reducing the training period from 5 to four years would not lead to good results in the loss of one year for basic training of specialists. i felt against. e our system and the moscow university did not conduct the bologna system. we went the following way, since
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a resolution was issued in the form we officially recognized it, but we gave an opportunity to everyone who studies for another 2 years in the magistracy, because the direction. the reform of soviet education in russia has been discussed since the late nineties in the same period, dozens of european countries joined the bologna process. the participants signed the first agreements at the university of bologna, italy. the idea was to form in different countries for students and a single academic space, the rectors were for universities to be autonomous and conduct their own education system , and the leadership of the european country wanted to unify, and there was a discussion , most universities in europe did not want to unify such a system, common
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standards, education europe did not spontaneously decide foreign universities viktor sadovnichy says they have struggled with the quality of their programs since the 1970s, and even then the idea of the uniformity of international educational processes was voiced. ninety ninth mechanism, earned. russia joined the bologna system in 2003, our minister went to germany and signed an agreement on the introduction of the bologna system in our country. and then it was introduced in our country as compulsory, thus the bologna system assumed a four-year education. well , as a rule, and by certain standards. there they were built differently, and no matter how recognizable they are. what university did this end up as a domestic university had to split the slender five-year plan of the soviet tower into smaller stages of training specialists. so there was a bachelor's degree, a truncated form
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of the previous course and a master's degree, but it is at the request of the student 4 plus two years. at the same time, in the diploma of the first stage, they began to indicate not a specific profession, as before, but only a field of knowledge, for example, history. we have roughly the same areas of training. uh, what's gone is the fundamental nature of education has gone. nearly 20 years have passed since then, but closer to the middle of it. the ways of processes are noted by the minister of science and education valery falkov, he is a learned lawyer. in the middle of the 2000s, he headed the tyumen state university and personally experienced all the nuances of the transition period. it was felt as a professional community since, and the introduction of a bachelor's degree, uh, all these discussions that were going on in the universities of communication with employers showed that uh.
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well, there is a request to improve this system to update it is obvious enough. this has become in the last 3-5 years and was only needed, if i may say so figuratively, yes, a trigger when everything came together. and now in 2020 the second year in the spring it became quite obvious answering the challenge of the time, the minister said that the bologna system. it must be treated as a lived stage, perhaps it once looked relevant and progressive, but times have changed a lot, if we take the end of the 1990s and the beginning of the 2000s, then it was a completely different country and a different economy , different geopolitical conditions. we did not have such an industry. we did not have such large companies. we did not have such a dynamically changing world. both outside and inside. i mean, and when the system was formed there, starting from the ninety- ninth year. all this was quite consistent with those ideas about the most advanced here for 22
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years. forced what is the future path of development of higher education in russia , there are no definitive answers at this stage, but there is a common soviet past, accumulated new experience, successful examples of universities and the vector of movement set by the president in his message to the federal assembly. the head of state directly noted that this should be a synthesis of the best practices of the soviet period and what we have developed in the last decade. and if we turn to you with you to our past, then what can and should definitely be taken from there. and this, of course, is the understanding that after school a graduate, having received an education of this education. it should be enough for him to be successful in life. the oldest university
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, st. petersburg state university, will soon celebrate its 300th anniversary. it is this university that has produced the largest number of nobel laureates in the country. many celebrities , writers, artists, artists, as well as politicians , statesmen and the president of russia graduated from it. the strength of russian education has always been high quality and content . uh, those subjects that, uh, are included in educational programs. this is the depth of fundamentality of an integrated approach. this is what it was before and is now. it's just that st petersburg university is one of two domestic universities along with moscow state university, which has a special status, which gives the institution not only the right to issue diplomas of its own sample, but also to develop training programs. marina lavrikova. first
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the projector shares his experience after the introduction of the bologna system. the point was one, to remove administrative barriers and fit into a certain general framework for the administration of processes related to educational activities, so there was no question of any meaningful changes and not the bologna system. well, somehow it didn’t significantly change to contain, probably, the content of the training that was adopted in russia and in the soviet union is still expensive, uh, the ninety -first year. nelli diveeva professor of the department of labor and social law at st. petersburg state university teaches students of different courses, bachelor's and master's programs, including foreigners, they note that with the transition to the bologna system, jurisprudence. unlike many other disciplines, it also retained a five-year training program. we have law schools as where students study in specialist's programs - this is connected, and in
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particular, for example, on the right, protective activity with prosecutorial judicial activity with uh hmm other specialties that are in demand in our state bodies. professor recalls that when the russian education system was just being rebuilt , employers had questions for bachelors. whether to consider their education as higher, masters with their six-year period turned out to be more understandable to the labor market, and from the pluses in the bologna system, nelli diveevo notes the wide opportunities for academic mobility of students. all levels of training. we must give credit to the fact that the bologna process contributed to the fact that we felt, and the very strength of our education and the transition to the bachelor's magistracy system allowed significantly increase the export of our education, because we have switched to a paradigm. an education that is understood in
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any other countries. sugar altamini is a second-year postgraduate student at the ural federal university, he came to russia from jordan a few years ago to study art history. yes, i just specifically chose this specialty. what exactly are they studying furfu, because as i know a good university. i, too, as an art critic studied at the jordan bachelor , too, art. and then, and then decided on for a master's degree. and me first. i speak at home. it was easier for him to study the number of subjects that sugar studied at the university of jordan almost half as much as an hour is taught to him, but he sees the quality of russian education in this. and so now i have found myself here in
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russia, how can i say, is there a total of people studying at the ural university now? half a thousand foreigners china near and middle east africa latin america in urfu is represented by exactly 100 countries of the world and understands that when they return to their homeland. they will be very are in demand at home, that our education , our russian higher education will provide them with very good career growth. this is probably the most important thing, the ural federal university is considered the most versatile in russia and here is the largest state-funded admission in the country. this academic year, says the rector , more than 15,000 applicants entered, and in total there are 42,000 students in the russian federation. popularity is based precisely on the deep fundamental base of our scientific research our scientific schools, which drive very close ties with industrial enterprises in the center of the industrial region, and we work with them in constant interaction.
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and, of course, this is the secret of popularity in those innovations that today are brought to the field of education by logical entrepreneurship digitalization true, but not only the achievement of recent years soviet education was very conservative says viktor koksharov, but on the other hand, many innovations are rather a tribute to the times than tracing paper from the educational processes of foreign universities. ah, the system. she after all, it was about training, not about education. here i am asking you to feel the difference in education - this is the creation of an image. this is the education of another person, in addition to the perception of knowledge and the joint generation of knowledge, originally the bologna system. she assumed that diplomas of education would be automatically recognized by all participants in the process, but practice has shown russian graduates in europe have always been selective
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in the humanities and are interested in zato in mathematics. physics. chemists are in great demand and in russia foreign students strive for consciousness it is in these areas that anastasia karpenko works at novosibirsk state university. it ranks among the top universities in the world in terms of its research and quality. curriculum and kind of activity at the faculty of mechanics and mathematics, i am doing postgraduate studies, that is, the highest level of education. and at the moment, uh, 50% of our promised students are foreign students, they come to us because we have a high level of fundamental and applied research and come either to master's or postgraduate studies. yes in depending on their abilities, on what they got, this is a student from china , her name is shen xinyi. and i studied the russian language and many russians of the right in my homeland , the girl received a bachelor's degree, and at novosibirsk university she continues her studies
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already in the magistracy, specializing in law and intellectual property. after graduating from university. i would like to pursue a career in law and become a foreign lawyer to help businessmen doing business between russia and china. i eat to solve their legal problems to the fullest use the knowledge gained at nsu and contribute to the friendly development of russian-chinese relations came to russia from south korea at nsu she studies financial management in order to obtain a master's degree in economics and engage in profile research in the field of energy. i think that the period of study at moscow state university already occupies a very important place in my life, because here i learn new things, gain experience and find development prospects, since nsu is considered one of the top universities in the country. he has the right to develop the university has chosen
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a mixed education system of its own development strategy. and in addition to the two standard levels, bachelor's and master's programs. here are the specialty for chemists and physicians a. also postgraduate. thus, we use this or that tool, for example, in the alon system of education for our own purposes. that is, if we speak and open doors for international students. yes, that is, we are opening up to the whole world as a foreign university, then, of course, we need a master's program, postgraduate studies, because it is precisely these levels of education that accordingly, we have taken apart and in the soviet years and after the transition to the bologna system was the training of future doctors in this case, universities traditionally. they use the model of a specialist, respectively, we prepare according to this system, because it is considered recognized, it is considered to have been tested for so many years. we need to get the guys ready, so here it seems to me that the top universities, as i said in my message. our president should be able to choose depending on the strategy they
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adhere. moscow institute of physics and technology the elite of higher education are the very golden brains of the country passing score of 100 for each subject of the unified state examination, but this is not the limit, winners of all-russian and international olympiads. in total, they are gaining more. we need significant intellectual investments from the guys who come to us. and even if we are talking about preparing for the use , we must understand that the modern use is not at all what it was at the dawn. yes, all these stories, and therefore there are guys who pass 90 plus 100 points on the exam - these are the guys, which have a very high potential, which andrey rogachev , director of the landau school, physics and research, called schools at mipt, call faculties, but
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in fact. these are clusters of higher education in science and production. we have here inside not only, uh, institute departments, but there are also imagine. the bodies of our bases are organizations that are essentially partner organizations that teach students on their site and involve them in real activities, which are core for these organizations. approach to the organization of the educational process in russian interuniversities. the environment is called the phystech system in reality. here, the same undergraduate, graduate and postgraduate studies, but with a special internal structure, the first 2 years provide students with a powerful knowledge base, and then in practice they are introduced to various professions. that is , in fact, at any stage of education , the institute produces specialists ready for work. there is simply a really classic mipt system that comes from the good soviet traditions of the old e, developed by the founding fathers of the institute. it is a combination of foundation and very
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natural. naturally built into education. applications, that is, the foundation is given in junior courses. further , of course, it continues to develop, but we are entering the application. we directly go to the forefront of science and this is achieved due to the presence of the so-called basic departments, however, the education system and its stages can be called whatever you like. the main result is read at the moscow institute of physics and technology in addition, multilevel approaches were practiced in russia even before the very concept of bologna process and in individual universities of the country the program was formed as part of soviet education. 902 was the first. adopted already in the new russia already. positions have appeared there, no one has even heard of the bachelor master of fisheries convention. and we already had these positions in 1993 and 1994. many universities have already begun to implement the program of bachelors and
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masters . several domestic universities have joined the experiment at once , recalls the academician of the russian academy of education and the creator of the unified state examination viktor bolotov now a professor at the higher school of economics in those years he worked in the ministry and supervised the country's pedagogical education. only he was there omsk pedagogical university, kaluga in general, a number of universities at the beginning prepare students for undergraduate and graduate programs. and in general, it was the choice of universities and there were special standards made for the bachelor of the masters, according to the professor in the russian law on education of the ninety-second year, the bachelor's degree, just as now, was related to higher education and was designed for 4 years of study. however, over time, a number of universities considered that this was not enough to train specialists and added another year. the higher
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school of economics also entered, but already in the process of switching to a balloon system upon admission. you are from the school of economics, i understood that here is a five-year bachelor's degree. and many have told me. there, 5 years of study is a lot, but i consciously found it. and since i understand that in 5 years there is much deeper knowledge, i will be able to become professional specialists. anna doroshina, in her first year at the faculty of law, did not choose her path in the ninth grade and is ready for long-term studies, and she is a student of higher education. andrei mikhailovsky is studying for a master's degree in business analytics. before that, he here he completed a four-year bachelor's degree in history. i would say that over these 4 years we have managed. yes, there is a lot of knowledge at the higher school of economics, because there is enough free education here. we create our own courses. and these 4 years they are like for i think they are necessary, but after 72 years they can finish a few master's programs, so this is a very
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convenient feature. in fact, i would not refuse it. professor in the usa and the crow academy victor bolotov believes that with the withdrawal from the bologna process, russian higher education will retain in its structure different levels of training of specialists, the system that russian universities began to rebuild since the early nineties turned out to be more convenient in many ways, what? we canceled the balloon system over the letters in a row, they were completely connected to each other and the bonus to the system is a lot, which useful was, for example, the european standard for assessing the quality of education. but we introduced them with difficulty, in general, we have no reason to refuse them in connection with the upcoming reform. it also makes no sense to cancel the exam, according to bolotov, the unified state. exam. says its creator was not originally associated with the bologna system and was introduced to
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make the procedure for entering universities more transparent. universities did not believe in school grades. the number of gold medalists, and in those years a gold medal, e, exercises gave the right to preferential reception. and it began to grow. well, in general, as mathematics says exponentially, while the quality of education obviously did not grow exponentially and they talk a lot. uh, about the fact that here's the balloon convention. we will now cancel the unified state examination , too, the same speculation of a certain relationship between the unified state examination and the bologna convention did not have bar science as a working option. now they are considering the transition from bachelor's and specialist's to basic higher education with terms of study from four to 6 years, such a range is proposed taking into account the request of employers and the difference dictated by
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the professions themselves, because we need them. main. this task is not so much a term of study. how much is the quality and demand of the labor market and employers. here is the first, second. at the same time, it is very important to keep the specialized. in-depth higher education at the level of magistracy, residency or internship assistantship, well, for creative universities, the minister emphasized that the stages of higher education should not continue each other, but complement and deepen valery falkov now noted that the magistracy does not fully fulfill its role, according to the minister, its it is necessary to make it more prestigious, so that people go there not for a diploma, but for consciousness , a master's program should be at those universities that have the appropriate personnel, organizational , financial and infrastructural capabilities for this, because i repeat this again. this is not a continuation of the basic higher education, the master's degree is in-depth and
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specialized knowledge. and there, even education should be based on other technologies and on new opportunities that should open up in connection with the upcoming reform. higher education is now under the current legislation. those who graduated after 2012. they cannot study at higher levels at the expense of the budget in the new system, according to the minister. it will become possible. more than 600,000 graduates who already have a specialist-level education and want to continue to build a career receive additional knowledge , such education in the master's program will be free of charge, and various terms of study in the master's program are also thought out for residency or assistantship. now her program is calculated exclusively for 2 years, but as noted in the ministry of education and science in a number of areas, this is not required especially for dynamically developing ones. ah, in the new system of coordinates it will be quite possible, and in accordance with the request of the
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labor market, prepare hmm uh or get in-depth or professional knowledge. e in graduate school. well, for a year, however, at the moment there are still discussions and consultations, based on the results of which an appropriate legislative framework will be formed. and only after that the actual changes will begin. it's all a process, not a quick one. stressed in mines barnaulka, in the meantime, the higher school continue to work with the previous formats.
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