in western countries, through the efforts of politicians and independents i beg your pardon and the media dependent on them, a disinformation bubble has formed, a universal thesis. russia is to blame for everything. however, the truth looks different , it sounds convincingly from the lips of witnesses. whose voices in the west are trying to be silenced, but

konstantin gavrilov, the head of the russian delegation on issues of military security and arms control, said the day before. eh, and this statement e just preceded the speech on the forum online speech on forum director of the international public tribunal for war crimes of the ukrainian nazis and uh, uh, aptitude uh. mikhail grigoriev spoke. well, now, konstantin yuryevich gavrilov is in touch with us just konstantinovich. greetings to you. hello, here is the previous all the speeches that we have with you. specifically discussed here. they just always started. that's how they generally met in the west. and the fact that they are very extremely reluctant to hear at all. and they don't want to listen. quite right, we expected, of course, surprises and they took place. naturally.

for the first time, they always listen to this, well, not always enough often enough ukrainians brought it, they just carried no words , falsification of disinformation, and so on, and for the first time, here we brought, uh, our respected specialist , chairman of the international public tribunal maxim sergeevich and here is grigoriev and uh, they said that they that he would perform under our uh, under our flag uh, you know, and already in advance on the last ones performed, to complete and show, more vicious performances, who were on dates forum. uh, i hadn't seen it before, especially the americans tried and the british. but it's just beyond all sorts of warnings we won't. listen to who you drag, but just a little tantrum happened. oh, how they didn't want to hear it all. well, of course, they knocked out when

he started performing. uh, maxim sergeevich, by video link on it, everyone, uh, got up and defiantly came out in response. i told them. this is how you make the air cleaner. and who is the same maxim sergeevich said, and maksim sergeevich testified , showed testimonies personally, which he saw , uh, filmed videos. what did the azov people do in mariupol, and there are several there. uh, video slides and so on. eh, they told about the atrocities, of course, nobody wanted to hear it. we talked about this at the forum meeting more than once, when these nazis surrendered to us, they interrupted the broadcasts and we technically add up the technical reasons that we will not show, we forced them to show them next time, and so on. well we expected surprises, but this is not the worst surprise. they left, they left, they left the hall, and

the majority of those who followed this performance remained online. now we are spreading it on our social networks. uh, let's direct mead to the site to be posted in the crisis in ukraine section so that they are more and more widely known throughout our audience. here i tell you. e. they are watching our performance. you know the specialists are sitting, and that's it. every word is filtered by them very unpleasantly when i'm talking here, but it's not forbidden to make our comments. so that everything went well. uh, and uh we uh, we will continue this practice. we are, perhaps, the only one who shows all these slides how the destruction takes place, how they engage in barbarism, and so on and so forth. and konstantin yuryevich, i understand correctly that the goal is just for all this, but

hmm, try, or something, to overcome this information barrier. uh, from these methods, which were taken as a basis in general by the creator of this general forum, yes, that is, to listen to each of the parties for taking notes. it's true. yes, absolutely right. and how can we counteract, if the contacts e of our e european embassies are practically no contacts e or at a low level occurs. and here we state our position in the person they want, they don’t want to listen to it, they listen to it, and we extend it to the point that we are our materials on, uh, crimes. uh, the ukrainian nazis distribute them to us torn into packages, which we distribute to our cells. uh, on the forum there they throw back, but the mechanism means from work. with jupiter you are angry, you are wrong. a well, look, they are leaving the hall there.

yes, they arrange some demarches, shouting that this is all a lie, you lie all the time and that's it. such other things, well, it’s understandable after all, but people work in a serious organization yes , a security organization for security and cooperation in europe, which should, in principle, seek to clarify who is right and who is wrong here, they came to you with a request. let's. we'll go and find out for ourselves. you don't know what you are showing us here. we want to see ourselves of course, dmitry has and now it's simple. eh, as if not in himself, so to speak. this is not in itself, all our efforts should be aimed at what you are talking about, so that they still think a little, and they will think for them when, so to speak, the balance of violence on the field changes. e. information e power and so on and so on. they will talk differently. they

understand the question is coming, the question is not about ukraine, in general about the future device of the faith, therefore all the forces are thrown at the ukraine of the system good and evil oppose each other. what principles are they now they are basically, uh, only stating the principles of the rules they make, by which they want to live. and we prove it that no, either you live according to the general established rules, or you live the way you see fit, taking into account our national interests. this strong one infuriates. this has never been said before. in fact, the osce was created. that's exactly the forum of military-political issues in order to really look for, er, common ground. i'm sure it will be be not now, but will be and they will not go anywhere, the well-established mechanisms are good, which in one form or another can be used by legal instruments. now, uh, a friend

is being talked about now. what perga they do not want to hear about the negotiations. yes? yes, here it is since we have just raised the issue of security for cooperation in europe. yes , for 2 days now we have been raising this issue about drones, uh, that fly with us. uh, in the black sea, yes, collecting important intelligence information. ah hmm that's also security and that's also cooperation, y which is clearly missing now. but these questions were raised the day before. of course, you know, over the past two years , the russian delegation. we all meetings, until the special operation began, they offered e, let's discuss specifically. let's discuss the measures that need to be taken so that the planes do not approach dangerously, the ships approach dangerously to take the exercise from the borders. e alliance of russia e. all. it

was suggested. they defiantly ignored it. but now, when this happened, it may be needed. that's what happened something limited established a zone of restrictions on flights. in connection with the special operation , all countries that are needed are doing this. even if it's international waters. so they purposely fly into this zone and look for reconnaissance. so what, it turned out that just once they fell and now, uh, you noticed the flights stopped for 3 days of all drones in europe in the north in the south, which means that it still works, but they just flew up to identify them, and he took and fell down so that it sometimes decreases, and they also, let's say, have an imperfect technique, but especially against e, against certain actions. and we are ready, we are ready to cooperate, we are ready

to do everything, to sit down at the forum, all this was stated. well, the answer to such actions is as the minister said. shoigu will be proportionate, too, let him think what size is right away, and konstantinovich here is another important question. this is what you said, that the other side really wants to achieve some kind of balance of balance understanding - this is when uh hmm russia loses, when everything is very bad for russia. and when they determine security, not someone else is here, so the issues were resolved. they decided on this topic, or rather, the issue was decided the day before at the rammstein base in germany . right now, but on this subject of information, we did not participate directly, according to the information that we have, i wanted to close the meeting confidently that we are participating directly. they are writing, yes something to say. they will write,

you know, well, let them be afraid. they will relocate what they write. here's a meeting was closed, there is an introductory word. uh, and it's been closed online next will be jubilee in april will be live, so to speak. uh , what is known from these meetings in the americans announced four million dollars in aid and includes there, uh, patriot systems. there, being included there, here it has already been announced long ago as being included. shells chambers with another uh, sending tanks there. uh, i don't remember who they dialed, 12, do you understand what the problem is? of course they add it. nothing good. it doesn't give us direction. uh, additional technology good and bad anyway. this is a killing machine. but nevertheless , to make of this that here they are heaping heaping and sending sends to ukraine, uh, weapons.

yes, for a long time the process has begun e of grinding not ukrainian former soviet technology, but western, that is, the process of demilitarization of nato countries is underway and they are now very much aware of the logistics do not have time and have already said more than once that in order to inflict production, let's say manpads to the americans. it will take five or six years if they stop supplying europe is even worse. so rammstein will run out of something they will collect. by the bottom of the barrel at home, that's all to send. well, our omsk chelyabinsk tank factories are constantly shipping battalion kits. i don't know and with a good new technique that can actively resist. uh, on western technology, these cats are there with abrams, which i am sure will never appear here, because they are of no use with them, in order to refuel, you have to

carry a fuel truck with jet fuel. it is also fueled by diesel jet kerosene. so, with one abrams, you need to carry a fuel truck and a stacker bridge in order to transport 60 tons across some river. so, uh , it's not like that, uh, pessimistic, but they'll cook. until they are convinced that we, uh, will win over everything , they will. uh, zelensky play with toys. well, as they say, we rely on our mighty army, we rely on fighting spirit and on our very good equipment. give, especially since the day before the secretary of defense of the united states made such a statement, which many people perceived, well, with such skepticism uh, he spoke about the situation in artyomovsk, and he also said that president zelensky himself needs to decide this, and he will

decide to do something about it. yes, here’s how you reacted to this statement, what they say to zelensky, that’s what they will really support. and what will happen, here they lost, you will lose there. they are there, for sure, no matter how they organize counterattacks, in my opinion, on principle. ah, of course, an important knot. uh, well, he throws and throws troops and equipment into the furnace. well, it’s good that, as the moth said , i’m not mistaken about the destruction of the army. here is kutuzov did not take her to moscow, did not save her; the frenchman captured russia, and napoleon 600,000, 30,000 left for europe. only the rest of the guard surrendered or died. well, here, uh, here it goes, of course. uh, you can find a bunch of counter-arguments among the statements of zelensky himself on this subject, who

spoke before, and in the sai in the united states indirectly confirmed this, that the targets that are used for attack uh, the ukrainian armed forces are consistent with the pentagon and that what can the presidential tip is scouts here are the planes, like, uh, the reaper that fell, that's what they do. this is a tip-off sometimes in direct. ah. so to speak, a direct connection with the living gives e a tip on the target. uh, you can't do it without the americans. it's very unfortunate. this is so to speak, even the system is not a volley fire of point fire, well, the whole answers there. the contingent that was present yesterday at the forum on security cooperation in europe is not online, i don’t mean konstantin yurievich thank you very much konstantin gavrilov head of the russian delegation in vienna on military security control over weapons was with us live. well, let's continue this topic.

from the situation to artyomovsk situations in general in the donetsk people's republic, in particular , what changes are there both militarily and civilly, of course, we will also talk about all this with denis pushin , acting head of the donetsk people's republic denis vladimirovich greetings . hello dimitri. we have now finished, just by the fact that the ministers of defense of the countries decided the day before. uh, euro countries. nato, or rather in ramstein, with them agreed to supply even more weapons to the ukrainian regime. well, here is the president, or rather not the president. the head of the pentagon, austin, said about the fact that zelensky himself decides what he actually does in artyomsk. also interesting here. what is your view on this issue. well, i’ll hold out here . probably the opinion that this is probably some kind of cynicism there, so indicative, because, well, zelensky

cannot and is not able to make such strategic decisions. and this is no longer his authority, but to accept constantly, respectively. ah. artyom's situation remains. ah, difficult heavy, that is, uh, we do not see that there is an enemy. well, there are some prerequisites that the enemy is going to simply withdraw units, but for zelensky, it would probably be right to save it. eh, here's the expression nonetheless, and i'll tell you. that one road, which is now everything, and probably even more significant under fire control. e man. that is, we see that it is really, and it is already extremely difficult, that is, to deliver and bc to deliver food bring reinforcements, and accordingly, it is also worth noting. we see the accumulation of forces determined per hour in yar but here are our units. this nothing in the world does not

stop, but at the same time everything comes at a rather high price. that is , divisions have already entrenched themselves in the building of the plant, that is, and now the battles have already moved to the industrial zone. well, let's just say that the situation is rather active, both in the north and in the south of artyomovsky itself, and in other key areas. how the situation is changing, because that many say that there is a redeployment of ukrainian forces, somewhere they are preparing a counteroffensive, somewhere they are concentrating a unit. well, we see for a certain rotation, that is, let's say, if we take and for us e is no less important , the settlement of avdiivka, then the enemy still has about five supply roads, and they, well, these roads are definitely under ours, well conditional, probably, fire control. that is, everything. this is in our vision, but not so, uh, the situation is sad. still for the enemy. well, let's say, as in

artyomovsk, however. eh, it's already going on here. uh, offensive actions, and from the side of krasnogorovka our units. here we see that from the other side. and where its units are also advancing. e is not so fast, and here you just need to understand that now and a, taking into account the fact that the opposite is constantly transferring reserves, taking into account the fact that the fortification was built quite seriously even taking into account the weather conditions. that is, well, it is absolutely possible to speak systematically, but our units are advancing, including including the marinka, and we, of course, were waiting for a faster release. i have repeatedly stated this, because in my understanding , this is still marinka a-a should have been released. there, almost there for a week, that is, well, there was already such a picture, but nevertheless, and the enemy is doing everything possible to drag out this time. that is

already there, probably about a month and a half. we see that fierce fighting continues there, but at the same time our unit is advancing. that is, i grind huge quantity, and the enemy whose reserves are transferred on an ongoing basis. if we talk about carbon fuel, then the situation there is, well , stable tense, that is, there continues the positional confrontation of special changes in the front line. we are not fixing it there. well, that is, neither in one direction nor in the other direction, the enemy is trying to carry out counterattacks. he is trying to carry out reconnaissance in force, but our unit is leveling it all . denis vladimirovich. because of what is happening, there is a certain intensification of hostilities . this is our direction. how are you they said it is moving forward, grinding a huge amount of equipment and manpower, and in connection with this , the nature of shelling in residential areas is completely changing. i mean, in donetsk itself, here are those long-suffering areas, about which we

report almost every day to the suburbs of donetsk and other settlements. he said that the situation there had become much easier for our residents of waite, but this is not the case, and here we see that there is a character of cynicism here, that is, in relation to the civilian population from the outside, and the enemy here, in principle, is not they have changed, while there is still a physical opportunity to get to our settlements, and therefore, as soon as they have such an opportunity, as soon as a-a leaves. there, uh, some comfortable positions, probably in comfortable positions. ah, the enemy’s equipment , they are shelling, that is, both kiev and kuibyshevsky and petrovsky kirovsky districts, of course, our units react and do everything possible and impossible to liquidate these scoundrels, who are absolutely

civilians in civilian objects by objects of political infrastructure. uh, strike their blows, but still. we see the enemy. uh, just now, just in the food districts, i began to change the discharge already, and the explosion of explosive objects from a drone on civilians. that is , we see that, again, with a certain savoring of cynicism. i mean, well, just not people. and they also put it online when you can see that they are waiting for the civilians to gather, that is, and then they drop, uh, an explosive device there. e. well, here what remains for us, that is, only ah step up the pace while advancing our units by every possible means. but the secretary of the sbu of ukraine, danilov tut , recently stated that without crimea, without donbass

, their country will not receive investments. this is the statement he made, this is a reference to why ukraine really needs these territories, but he did not tell people. well, we got used to the idea, or there is already absolutely. now, probably, we accept indifferently, and that position of the ukrainian regime. in general, not only danilov is there, well, it’s also from zelensky, a before this poroshenko that people are absolutely not important to them, they are not important, at least from the fourteenth year. that is why we were forced, uh, to decide our fate on our own. and, of course, we saw our future only in russia, exactly as it happened, of course. this has been demanded for years unconditionally. uh, donbass paid a big price, but for us, this is an understandable price and understandable. why did we already

have. well, there were no options, that is , to remain with the current kiev regime, that is, we also understood that here they were interested territories are interested, but financial components interested, probably, in the external image and interested in a lot of other things, but this is absolutely all this is not connected. e with life with security in welfare. and just with simple respect. eh, our citizens, us in general, that is, therefore, of course, we are exactly that, therefore, that is, we have chosen such a path for ourselves . uh, what is it now, probably, than the same secretary from the nbow of ukraine yes, and no one does zelensky sends. as a matter of fact, the most notorious, and hmm neo-nocysts. eh, right on the front lines. well, and in this way, eh

or something, getting rid of them so that later no one would tell them that you are looking. how many of these are related tattoos, what do you think about it? you know, if, uh dmitry, it was only about tattoos, sometimes statements, actions, orders, orders, uh , legislative initiatives, and the manifestation of nazism is much more, that is, this is what we are now fixing, that is, the whole ukrainian authorities. as such, or that is, the authorities that remained part of ukraine, therefore , these are just rabid. eh, nationalists, they are all tattooed, there, as it were, and uh, with constant burning there, that is, of course. that is, it is understandable, but in an understandable way, they are destroyed by our unit. but those actions are the nature of these actions now frankly, but of the neo-nazi ukrainian regime. yes, this causes very serious

fears there, as it were, but for us it’s still a surprise that there is absolutely no reaction from the western community and especially here. of course, never in germany is certainly surprising. this is a revolution against nazism, for example, yes in the security council. he is about many things. in fact, he says, uh, diss vladimir vladimirovich, for the remaining time. we have the opportunity to talk about peaceful affairs. yes, the day before you met with denis valentinovich bantov and discussed projects to restore the industrial potential of the region. but there are some specifics. yes, of course, another very important meeting with denis valentinovich took place, that is, it was absolutely constructive, then is here, and we really need a quick as soon as possible, and understand how support measures for business for industrial enterprises work. and this, of course, is the industrial development fund. this, of course, is a number of other preferences that

our enterprises need like air, so, of course, it was discussed. ah, large metallurgical enterprises, including the donetsk metallurgical plant, its development prospects, that is, again, in a certain contour, but discussed ah. these are stages, that is, let's say preparatory for now pass through as part of the refurbishment of the former plant has already been forced directly into the technopark. what was the decision about, and was supported by the president of the russian federation vladimir putin well, of course. our discussion was important. here is the future and full load of the mariupol commercial port, and also, uh, which are the shipyard, which is located on the territory of the mariupol plant, of course, it should also be, and it is unconditional that it should be modernized and restored, that we are there and the destruction is quite serious, but for us . uh, taking into account the fact that the sea of ​​\u200b\u200bazov. now this is the internal russian sea, of course,

logically, the logistical component of it. well, we just have to use. this is especially true, of course, but it concerns the part that we need to unload our , e, checkpoints, which, with the onset of heat, of course, will be loaded more and more, taking into account the fact that construction work will increase and will increase again the same transit kherson zaporozhye region, yes, and in the crimea there for certain circumstances. and of course we are now using the sea, moreover, as a supply of building materials, industrial materials, products. like the export of grain, but there are also plans to involve the passenger in organizing the flow of passengers, and in different directions, of course. this was all within the framework of the discussion. uh, from denis valentinovich vladimirovich well, this , too, will probably sound a bit wild for the west now. and they, probably, probably didn’t even realize that industrial enterprises are working, that people go to

work, despite all that we are talking about you have been told before. this is also in fact, an indicator of such a character, probably, of how, in what conditions the donetsk people's republic lives, we really hope that a world that will allow industry, in particular, to work to its fullest will come very soon, thank you thank you very much denis pushilin. uh, in rio, the head of the donetsk people's republic was in direct contact with us. and thank you for your attention. in the european part of russia in the urals well and in the far east, large water is already being prepared in primorye of the novosibirsk region. we wait inclusion of our correspondents from the regions. the firing positions of the armed forces and

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