we live in a great country. and this is true every time after the cruel upheavals of the death

of thousands of people, the state gathered again into a single rigid system. this is a memory of someone who likes it, someone does not, but it is a memory.

and you and i will win we need victory hello kirill vyshinsky is with you, and this is a typical novorossiya program, our new name says it all, we will talk about the territory that has returned to its historical roots - novorossiya with the help of a careful look at the history of novorossiya. we will try to reveal the originality of her present day, to find in it typical features and recognizable signs of the past. and that's what we'll talk about today. instead of a class struggle with

russia how until recently was history taught in novorossiya? what and how will you have to retrain the conversation with the program expert, stargorod in the steppes of novorossia, in the footsteps of the heroes ilf and petrov, we talk a lot about the history of novorossia, but it should be said that a significant number of its current residents know this history in a completely different presentation , we are talking about those who since 2014 lived on ukrainian part of these lands. who became citizens of russia quite recently. what kind of history were they offered to see the history of the state, within whose borders their ancestors lived for centuries, those who lived in the ukrainian part of the donbass kherson and zaporozhye regions taught the history of ukraine, according to ukrainian

historians of the 16th century, it was a colony of oppressed russia, therefore, the pereyaslav rada textbooks where the kazakhs of khmelnitsky voluntarily the muscovite tsar is called only ukraine by the moscow treaty, and nazepa, who changed the oath and gave the tsar petra it turns out that a far-sighted ukrainian politician and fighter for the rights of the cossacks, if in soviet times the history of ukraine was described as a process of struggle of the oppressed classes for their rights against capitalists and landlords without a specific nationality, then after independence it became a hidden or overt struggle against russian and soviet colonialism. it is true that in tsarist times that in soviet times in ukraine despite all the horrors of oppression , the population grew, new educational

institutions were opened, plants and factories were built thanks to the development of the territory of novorossia productivity increased, but this is not much, but the focus is on the tsarist repressions against ukrainian cultural and educational circles, and at the beginning of the 20th century , the desperate struggle of the bourgeois ukrainian people's republic. shevitsk russian occupation about the ukrainian bolsheviks during the civil war shchors parkhomenko voroshilov on these pages not a word among the main characters petlyura grushevsky in the interwar period in the mass industrialization of the stakhanov movement in the donbass in the fight against total illiteracy, in passing, practically nothing but a lot about the tragic collectivization of the holodomor and the mass repressions of the thirties, which became a real genocide of the ukrainian people. but the most important thing is

a total lie. at the great patriotic rather, the second world war, domestic in ukraine, has not been called it for a long time, although about 7 million ukrainians fought in the ranks of the red army. the main characters of the bandera textbooks. they collaborated with the german fascists. well, what do the authors of textbooks think? it was a clever trick so the nationalists got weapons and created the basis for their ukrainian the rebel army is silent about how, at the end of the war and the first post-war years, rebel army fighters killed activists from the local population of the same ukrainians in western ukraine. only with different views. somehow very similar to what happened in the donbass after 2014 , more about how history was taught in the ukrainian part of novorossiya. and what

is being done today to change these distorted ideas in the plot ? history of development wild field collaborationism on the territory of soviet ukraine in a word on the net topics on which russian and ukrainian historiography traditionally have different views. you are young people, you should just be interested in viktor kondrashin, a world-famous scientist , the largest expert on the topic of the russian peasantry of the 20th century. for several decades now, he has been studying the history of gold in the thirties in the ussr, he lectured at universities in the usa , italy, japan and other countries, but now it is important to convey information. somewhere where you need it most in the liberated territories. the reality was not the genocide of the ukrainian people.

it was a common tragedy for all the peoples of the soviet union who lived in this era of accelerated industrialization and bread for resources, he says, where they were, or else they are on the principle that they are ukrainians, that this is a russian position shared by the majority, the vast majority of foreign researchers of this topic, the massive famine of the thirties, which engulfed the vast territories of the ussr, not only ukraine but also the north caucasus, the urals of the volga region, south siberia and kazakhstan claimed the lives of several million peasants and certainly. this is a huge tragedy, however, the focus has been on the victims of repression against the supposedly single ukrainian peasantry. historians of the independent traditionally omit other facts, for example, that the largest grain resources for the sowing company for 33 years were allocated to the ukrainian ussr, so a tenacious myth was born, 11 it is also a propaganda weapon directed against the peoples. uh, inhabiting here are our countries, our regions, our republics on the disunity of the peoples of the former ussr and this myth being implemented not only in ukraine it is being actively

implemented, for example, in kazakhstan now melitopol moscow is separated by 1,000 km. however, it was not the distance that interrupted the scientific dialogue between russian and ukrainian scientists, but the students as well. after the maidan of the fourteenth year, all contacts began to systematically come to naught. so, now they have to be restored bit by bit today in the walls. rggu alma mater of many famous scientists. they talk about how important it is to build bridges again, both between faculty and students. in the lecture hall of the university, there are lectures on the topic of mythologizing history around individual events in the history of the independent, traditionally there are many speculations to separate the wheat from the chaff, a difficult task can be solved only by referring to historical sources . it is historical sources that refute many stories of ukrainian myth-making, for example, that it is ukrainian language was the main one in russia, though not a single document of those times in ukrainian was created, in fact, only in the 19th century.

it was not found or that the rebellion of bogdan khmelnytsky and the pereslavl rada were a cunning plan of the moscow tsar, who dreamed of splitting the then great ukraine , and of course, where without the glorification of the nationalists from ufa, which allegedly were not collaborators at all, but fought alone against everyone and against hitler and against stalin everything. it flooded the tutorials. the university departments told frankly lies and the main thing was not subjected to any doubts, perhaps this is the main mistake, if speech a quality historical education, probably, critical thinking is this this what is taught in the history department. this is one of the main abilities of a historian, and even our teachers always tell us that we should critically comprehend both what they say and what we read, rsuh teacher ivan kulakov recently returned from melitopol, however , he knows about the standards of ukrainian education for a long time and firsthand, because at one time he himself graduated from school in the then

ukrainian crimea, ivan says that if the dpr and the lpr are now integrating faster still, in 8 years, the republic managed to create strong ties with russian universities research centers, then establishing contacts with the recently liberated territories. this is a longer and more laborious process, but quite feasible. and there are people who are ready to organize these processes at the youth level. we are now going to work on creating a branch of the youth club in the zaporozhye region. there are guys. they themselves turned to us with a request without proposals, and to open such a cell, by the way, melitopol state university, created on the basis of several former ukrainian institutions became the first university in the liberated territories that received russian state accreditation, which means the right to issue diplomas. a new enrollment is underway, and there are many schoolchildren who have not yet formed. here is this university consciousness based on ukrainian materials on ukrainian radical books and from them and

from the younger generation of schoolchildren who enter the university. uh, first-year students, sophomores, of course, they need to be formed into real specialists, but in ukraine from the younger generation for years they formed something else asset for protests, everyone remembers who does not jump, that muscovite, huh? and of course, referring to the history of the third reich, the slogan ukraine to inflate ukraine above all else youth is the weak link. this is our weak link. in what sense e reformat? eh, consciousness is very easy in a young man. uh, while he has not yet formed, as a personality and a conveyor, hitler jung is exactly like that in direct words. i call it working flawlessly from the other side, and what is happening in ukraine right now is yes. this

the reformatted consciousness of schoolchildren and students. and on this distortion of history, a huge political resource of ukraine itself and beyond its borders is working. recently, for example, another country recognized the holodomor as genocide of the ukrainian people. belgium before that, a similar decision was made by the united states , portugal and the european parliament as a whole. but this is in every sense a completely different story . savely anastasia popova is a typical novorossiya. about how the teaching of the humanities was organized. in novorossiya, in ukrainian times, we'll talk to our permanent expert historian political scientist rostislav, ishchenko rostislav good afternoon. good afternoon rostislav e. how the entire humanitarian block has changed. uh, in novorossiya its contents. i mean in ukrainian

at times only in belarus because it's a tragedy. in general, all of ukraine as a result of changes. eh, these changes have grown even more than one several without literate fields, literature. she's just, so to speak. in quotation marks, it was enriched with an additional number of ukrainian authors, and uh began from there. yes, and from there we started gradually to squeeze out the authors of even such let's say malaya russian or all-russian gogol yes , bulgakov was still considered a ukrainian writer. and gogol is no more, almost even taught in translations. yes, and gogol was translated earlier than alexander sergeyevich pushkin into ukrainian, and taras bulba, who spoke to the russian land, uttered this phrase all the time in ukrainian nature, like ukrainian, yes, there was not a single mention of russian. yes,

they overlap each other with perversion. yes, then uh man, just loses, the connecting thread between the past and real. and if we talk about history, then there is its own, considering the greatest tragedy. yes, because there the historians of the cpsu became historians of ukraine instantly. history is an ideological discipline. they decided that we were just filming one ideology, like a jacket and another thing. the classics, marxism, is no longer suitable. but bandera and mekhnovsky still cannot be quoted. yes? and petlyura seems to be, as it is impossible, these families are a thug-phobe, a pogromist , and so on, a boss who was. as a matter of fact, the ideologist and father of such a theory ukrainian, but the fact is that grushevsky is not enough for everything. grushevsky is still no longer an ideologue of a historian, which means, uh, as a result, they began to receive such outstanding shots as professorbeinik, which means i will remind you twice that the person who talked about atlantis, uh,

talk about the fact that jesus christ ukraine yes, and he now has much more to open than before or from whom else? yes, he continues to talk about this very great ukrainian emperor. bogdan genghis khan there and so on he has something not opening day. uh, the most important thing is that professorbek hmm, it means that his research was published in the newspaper golos ukrainy this , which was the main parliamentary newspaper of the country, that is, in the words of professor beymik, the great sacred meaning was immediately indulged. i understand that in the fourteenth year they became mandatory, because practically all textbooks, er, everything, do not fit into this scheme. e, are being crossed out. the fact is that e everything was manifested long before the fourteenth year, textbooks in which it was written to black and white children that ukrainian nation 140,000 years old.

this is despite the fact that a modern man appeared about 40-50,000 years ago, which means that ukrainians were somewhere comparable in age to neanderthals, and not only did they write it and at school it was still a bastard on the conscience of the teacher, and he could teach in this way, but the mighty otherwise and really became obligatory only after the fourteenth year, when teachers began to write denunciations and they began to come to them from second-hand or arrest them for incorrectly teaching history. is there any way to scroll before that? yes for schoolchildren received. it's in the literature course in the history course. this heresy was constantly on television in the newspapers. there, in books, and so on and so forth, that is, it poured on them from all sides, so to speak. new history was marginalized for several generations in a row, that is, they have such an idea of ​​​​history. why it was very important to reformat historical memory in the southeast of ukraine, and in novorossiya in particular, how successful it was in general. this was done under ukraine well, i would

not reformat to kill the historical memory, because i have already once come to express this. yes, in order to become a ukrainian, ukrainians said, one must kill the russian in oneself. and that you will see yourself as a russian in the first historical memory of people, that is, in the very works of the great kazakh classic become maint. yes, it's great to leave him. you should have forgotten the ancestors. i had to forget the history of my own people. and now what to do in novorossia with this hmm cultural and historical heritage in quotation marks, how to get rid of it, because it’s not even just changing textbooks. this is already embedded in the consciousness of a truly whole, at least a generation should publish normal textbooks. you have to lecture. it is necessary to publish books , literature, it is necessary to ensure coverage of educational programs on television, tam

and so on. so, again, in the spoiled generations. not everyone will return to normal. simply, because a person's character is formed there somewhere up to twenty years, and often earlier and then it is already very difficult for him to change his mind. here are some people. i think that the big one will return to normal, and their children and grandchildren will already grow up normal. and this is basically what you need to consider. we have normal textbooks. we have normal stories, then we have. red literature all this must be published in mass circulation to promote accessibility to provide propaganda , including on television in social networks wherever possible, in order for the new generation to grow up surrounded by the new one. mm, new ideas. well, maybe they are not so new, because, in principle, we return them to the well-forgotten old somehow back to normal. but they must grow. here in this already new, so to speak cocoon, e

, which will be completely denied, uh, the ideology preceding nationality, which was inspired by their parents. thank you very much for a very interesting story. favorite books of the soviet intelligentsia, 12 chairs and the golden calf by ilf and petrov and investigating the activities of the underground millionaire koreek were carried away not only by unexpected plot twists , both novels painted a picture of soviet life and mores of the twenties depicted vivid characters and types became a real encyclopedia of the life of the young soviet republic, the restless bender, along with his accomplices , is constantly on the move. he either set off from

the provinces to noisy moscow, then sailed after the elusive chairs on a steamboat along the volga , then made a motor run along the steppe impassability, then after the loin he rode on socialist construction projects in the desert of central asia the chapters written in juicy and figurative language were scattered at lightning speed into quotes in soviet times, a well-placed phrase, such as hamite parnish or a tram. yes, they talked to them in moscow not only about the interlocutor's sense of humor, but also about belonging to the general circle of lyricists reading physicists, that is, it was good form to know the geography of the adventures of heroes in moscow, experts showed the old building of the newspaper gudok voznesensky lane, in which the authors placed a hostel helicopter name. schwartz of odessa were proud that in sunny, chernomorsk where the millionaire lived. koreika was decommissioned from their

city. in kiev, they even erected a monument to panikovsky in the place where, according to the plot of the novel, he portrayed the blind man , they argued most of all which city could become the prototype of the gubernsky stargorod of the very one where readers first get to know comrade bender and in which the story actually begins, 12 chairs. many researchers believe that this is starobelsk, a regional center in the lugansk republic of novorossiy history long before the writing of twelve chairs at the turn of the 16-17 centuries, by decree of boris godunov, here in the wild field to protect the borders of the moscow kingdom from the raids of the crimean tatars, a fortress was erected by tsar borisov , the tsar's governor bogdan birsky, who was responsible for

its construction for greater security and already built it with his own money on the right bank of the river. aidar is another fortress in the sources , several names appear white, belsk belsky boris godunov is so self-righteous. e, i was very dissatisfied with all this, but in the end, upon arrival, bogdan belsky was calculated beard. uh, what was considered a dishonor, and he was, uh, demoted there from well, as it were, i will send him to exile. uh, nevertheless, uh, on the run they stopped partially, well, in some places the cossacks came here. the spirit of the cossack freemen and freedom vital in these parts , peasants from the central regions of russia fled here from the yoke of serfdom and were engaged in agriculture. sometimes they went on military campaigns in exchange for this , the cossacks did not betray them to the landowners. the dissatisfaction of the peasants with class oppression at the beginning of the 18th century grew into the rebellion of kondraty bulavin famous for its cruelty, both the instigators and

the royal authorities who suppressed it. here is the city of uh starobelsky. it was not yet a city, and the belskaya settlement included shulgin cities. were burned. uh, there is practically nothing left, only after 20 years the foundation begins to settle first sloboda old white, and since 1797, the city of starobelsk is an atypical settlement for the industrial donbass , this cubic agricultural town located at the crossroads of trade routes was famous for its four annual christmas fairs nicholas spring petrovsky summer and pokrovskaya autumn. and also the piety and patronage of local residents. in the summer of 1927 , at 11:30 a.m. , a young man entered from the direction of the village of chmarovka, stargorod. a monument

to ostap bender, who entered stargorod, was erected in starobelsk on gogol square in 2008 on the occasion of the eightieth anniversary of the first edition of the twelve chairs, the village of chmyrovka, and in the time of ilf and petrov-chmarovka, it was really located to the north. now it is a suburb of starobilsk. this geographical coincidence made it possible our local historians 15 years ago, to do, so to speak, unwind this story based on the results that came to such an interesting conclusion that literally a year before the start of work on the novel there were 12 chairs, young correspondents of the all-union newspaper horn visited starobelsk in the horn of the newspaper of the central committee of the workers' trade union railway transport 100 years ago, the flower of russian literature gathered. and lesha kataev bulgakov , the idea of ​​​​the plot of 12 chairs, literally hovered in the air in the room of the fourth strip, where its employees ilya ilfa and evgeny petrov

published their satirical materials. uh, 12 chairs wouldn't have been there if it wasn't for the horn, just because they wouldn't have taken this material from nowhere. after all, a lot of what there are 12 chairs in the golden calf was taken from the correspondents of the worker correspondents , whose work correspondents ilf arranged so brilliantly and knew this texture very well. well, at the same time, and of course, the texture of the entire nepman life of then russia , in the course of the search, was found by the species to have both similarities and coincidences of a furnished room with furniture requisitioned from cubic houses, where the metropolitan correspondents allegedly stopped the green car lauren dietrich, inherited from the fleet of the starobilsk executive committee from the time of the unr and the german occupation. it supposedly has them on it. they did, however, moscow researchers do not share this confidence. in the twenty-sixth year, well, well, let's say, then why

don't we find the corresponding entry in ilf's diaries, and he is a diary very carefully. and why , respectively, the editors of the beep could send petrov's elves precisely stable, where once again there was not even a railway station the starobelsky railway station was really opened only in 1934, however, in 2011, another monument dedicated to the twelve stargorodsky chairs appeared in the city. lev kisu vorobyaninov. they placed in the square opposite the entrance to the two-story building, on the balcony, which they allegedly dined on or according to petrov, the characteristic types of the inhabitants of the stargorod and the features of the city itself, according to the statement, are very recognizable by the starobelchans. every small town has its own crazy interesting true story. well, i really want a historical one. well, i really want go down in history because. these are collective images. in them , ili recognizes his fellow countrymen from many cities one way or another, but this legend has become one of the symbols of the city, the locals themselves. residents relate to

literary and historical parallels with humor to say that such a hype is just right. eh, how is it not? well, somehow, well, anyway . uh, it always attracts everyone who comes to the city of e, not the inhabitants of starobelsk, as one of the first questions from the story , let's say. uh what connects us with this uh with these twelve chairs with the name of the whole union, such an assessment by roman of ilf and petrov was given at one time to the researchers of creativity by yuri shcheglov . perhaps that is why everyone saw in them something of their own old ticket. it still differs from other cities in the lugansk region by its patriarchy. whether there were famous satirists here or not, the charm of the city does not beg at all. olga mokhova anastasia popova valery savelyev is typical of novorossiya. that's all we wanted to talk about. kirill vyshinsky was with you today. see you soon.

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