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, obviously. well, let's go back to the fifth studio and continue talking about the situation around the zaporozhye station in order to understand how fundamentally has the position of the iaea, which we are now discussing, changed? i would like to recall a short chronology of the story of the demilitarized zone. she started. in general, even last summer in august, the secretary general. un antonio guterres called for an agreement on a secure demilitarization perimeter around the zaporizhzhya station following in september last year. actually , the iaea, following the results of its mission to the station , just published a report that contained prizes to stop shelling the hare, and not a word about the fact that they were shelled from there was no station on the side of ukraine in this report. and just one more call. this is to create a protective zone around the station to avoid damage. this is last september. today is march 23rd. we read i will quote

the statement of mr. grosse. now we are not talking about the demilitarized zone. we understand perfectly. what additional difficulties is it? something especially in a zone of active warfare will be extremely difficult to carry out the verification process through more than 1 mile from the demilitarized zone there will be an extremely militarized territory, therefore, we are no longer considering this option. renat ivanovich tell me, please, for these 8 months there, yes , which have passed between the statements, mr. grosse. this is what eyes opened, unexpected experts who are from i mean agency experts who are constantly at the station or the situation. the general has changed from your point of view, which influenced the decision. well, firstly, this is an unchanging stable position in the negotiations of the russian side. we immediately said that demilitarization for us something incomprehensible and provocative, which carries the risks of weakening, and

our position is the first and we have always adhered to this line all the time. but we, uh, talked about the fact that i uttered this phrase, uh, the conversation was reset, but on september 1, when he arrived on a visit to the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, i will pronounce it and now at the zaporizhzhya station there and around the city of energogadars. you can’t shoot anything ever and under any pretext? this was supposed to be a base with uh, so uh to create a security zone. it is the rejection of artillery shelling refrain from any attempt to seize the station by force refrain from any action that potentially poses risks to nuclear safety. it was founded, therefore, in

this sense in this sense, and ukraine. moreover , this moment is very important here. it would not just have to be a waiver, it should be a guarantee. you should have had a performance guarantee for this waiver. that's because ukraine has long ago shown itself not only as an incapable party, but also as a non- necessary treaty. therefore, in this regard, yes, how much we need guarantees undoubtedly. here they were not moreover, ukraine ignored, in fact, agreed upon. so our package is rich. yes , the proposal was just lying, and here there are cloth boxes. i don't know anywhere. but he wasn't at work. ukraine simply ignored this whole story, so well, the iaea, er, and grosse himself. they are people. i talked all the time. here you often find their addresses. all sorts of critical arrows fly. they also do not end up

on their own. the structure, to put it mildly , and it is clear who actually ordered the music all this time, but i believe that the immutability positions of the russian federation, but for us, it’s completely e definitely the question of belonging to energodar, as well as to that part of the zaporizhzhya region, which, following the results of the referendum, became part of russia but is closed, but to close the issue of belonging to the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant in accordance with presidential decrees, these are topics that have not been discussed and discussed will not. here, in fact, is the whole answer to the question. i don't know. eyes opened finally a sense of reality came. uh, in the head means heads. uh, international of this institute. that's actually it does not matter in principle fundamentally different. we left. er, in

this case the negotiation process is from unrealistic from non-working conditions that simply hinder achievement. eh, the mechanism and the creation of this very security zone. this is the main thing, thank you very much thank you to rinatova for being our guest today, we thank you for emphasizing once again. how important it is to consistently defend your position, even when it seems that there is a chance that this position will be heard. no , actually, there are chances, and in general, as we see to reach all the same, at least for the time being we are succeeding. and i want to continue. just exactly this topic, how difficult it is for russia today. be heard by your partners. i hope that konstantin yuryevich is in touch with us now. gavrilov konstantin yuryevich hello, you regularly represent our country at various venues and, as far as i understand, the day before. you were supposed to speak at the forum for

security cooperation, but this did not happen. here tell us, please, what kind of conflict. yes this happened for the first time, in the history of the forum, security cooperation begins in the ninety -fourth year, and the agenda was prepared to strengthen the security of the participation of regional organizations. uh, the basnica presidency that heads the forum decided to focus on the balkans at dayton and so on. uh. at one time and a half ago, together, we made a proposal to quickly re-submit, or, as it were, at a level, so that they commented, because some countries of the accident are actively involved in the dalton process and demining in other questions. uh, here, but under the pressure of the anglo-saxons, the bosnian presidency. hmm refused to include our speaker in the list of

speakers. even under the flag of the delegation , they refused, uh, to present the word is not their initiative. the americans and the british worked very actively there. uh, well, for the first time in history, we had to say that we do not approve the agenda of your forum and , uh , we do not agree. despite pressure. eh, ansam, the basin chairmanship clearly followed the procedures. and uh, the pressure didn't work. and she closed the forum of events, then it took place in an informal format without translation, as expected, but i am very pleased that for the first time they decided to follow a principled position. the osce consensus continues to

exist, and it works moreover on the sidelines i was told. uh, some old europeans, yes. we are not ready to demolish the existing mechanisms and do not see in ourselves. e existence of the organization without the participation of russia so that's what pleases what can be found. we want to keep the form as a mechanism for possible agreement in the future. they will still be achieved and these developments of ours will come in handy. this hmm not only surprised me, but also pleased konstantin and here is something that cannot please us. unfortunately, yes, this continues, by the way, the conversation about the anglo-saxons. these are, of course, the announced deliveries of munitions with combined uranium, which i will recall about the uk. yes, this has happened since tuesday. here today chinese, by the way, a statement made against the backdrop of negotiations. at the highest

level of moscow and beijing, and just the chinese global times today writes that ammunition with a combined uranium for ukraine will turn against it, reminding. actually, about the dangers of similar dangerously similar ammunition at the same time, we hear that london also claims that the combined uranus supposedly does not carry any danger, 30 years, we use these supplies, they say and it's okay. well, as if there was neither yugoslavia nor cancer, in fact, and the white house too says that, in general , such projectiles pose no danger. please tell us how we should regard, but these statements and especially this attempt to make a good minute in a bad game and tell that everything is in order in general and we will deliver the delivered ones. yes, you know a lot about this topic already, they include our president, minister, and so on. uh, there are already many experts. uh, military

columnist and so on. i wanted to say one thing about this topic. we have been closely monitored here in vienna by our experts. she began to rise in the english-language press on the internet. uh sites since the end of last year. we noted this and, in agreement with the center , raised this issue at one of the forum meetings on january 25. e all year and even gave interviews, so our non-partners were warned about it that this is a very dangerous business, then there was talk that it could be so, uh, the combined uranium cores can be used, we warned that this is a very dangerous escalation, which neither nothing good will come of it. and this is a dirty element bombs, of course, this is a different story than a dirty bomb, but nevertheless, as the president said, this is a nuclear component . the westerners kept silent about this

, and you see, timed to coincide with the visit of the chairman of these talks with president putin to russia, they stated that we we will supply the most with challengers, uh, shells, 120-mm sub-caliber with a uranium core. subject. not nova, these developments began to be done, e, the germans during the second world war did not have such a wide use of e for armor-piercing for armor-piercing shells, but nevertheless , development has turned out and everyone knows that it has already been actively used. uh, during the bombing of yugoslavia by the americans by the british, i was here at that time in 1999 and, of course, the consequences of this topic were not visible then, but i was in kosovo a in 2001-2003 and even then. the consequences of this were

, because in the american mission they paid a lot of money to the employees who worked there because of the danger of the environment, even then it was i have friends who say in hospitals. uh, even in kosovo, uh, the number of cases of oncological diseases began to increase sharply at that time. it was in iraq, that is, a direct connection. e with the fact that it was used by 300 italian soldiers, claims are being made for the fact that they participated in these peacekeeping operations and received. uh, radiation can be your own. this has not been directly proven, but nevertheless, many pay the risks, that is, the safety and harmlessness of this is a myth is a myth. and look better six times increases the number of cases. and if it will apply, a on the territory of e ukraine, you represent

the contamination of the soil a-a decay of e, 238, e on uranus what is the isotopomp united there? uh, not quite as radioactive, of course, but the aftermath puts it in billions of years nonetheless. uh, for the period of half the collapse, uh, and the land will be practically unusable. minister lavrov clearly spoke about this, how they are going to insert grain into the europeans. not only that, they will destroy the ukrainians in fact in a 10th anniversary, or offspring, or so on. so it is for europeans. it's all suicidal and shouldn't happen. thank you very much. thank you. konstantin yuryevich, who were in touch with us today, answered our questions. we continue our broadcast. and of course, we’ve been talking a lot now, yes, pollution at well, and on the consequences for people, of course , but including pollution of nature, which represent the possible use of the combined uranium, which is very strong in great britain. in general, the topic of ecology is important

in each of us. in general, in recent years. this is exactly what i felt on myself and here is one of the most probably famous paradise places on the island of bali is tightening immigration laws, and it is reported that the migration service is patrolling the resorts to detect foreign tourists violating indonesian law, and the authorities are monitoring the social networks of travelers, given that this is one of the favorite vacation spots for so many russians. i would very much like to understand if this threatens us with something. lyudmila vorobyeva, the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of russia to the republic of indonesia, lyudmila georgievna, is in touch with us. can you hear me? hello, yes, i can hear you. and tell me, please, the authorities have announced the possibility of canceling the simplified entry for russian tourists. here. what is the current situation and what are the prospects for this issue. the fact is that it was the proposal

of the governor of bali to cancel, uh, visa on arrival for russian tourists. this is just a suggestion that he addressed to the ministry of justice for human rights of the republic of indonesia, this is the ministry of uh, oversees the immigration service, so uh , such rules are not introduced and uh, according to our estimates are unlikely to be introduced. uh, especially given the friendly nature of relations between our two countries recently immigration. they also announced in bali, i mean, they announced the deportation of tourists who violated the visa regime, was there an appeal from the russians in this regard. indeed deported tourists who violate uh, immigration and labor laws of the republic of indonesia most. by the way, these are not russian tourists, we are okans providing consular

assistance in similar cases, but here the reasons are absolute. if you arrived in indonesia and received a visa on arrival, then you can only stay in this country for one month. and if you find 6 months, then it is obvious that sanctions will be applied to you by the indonesian state. in addition, we are talking about a violation of labor laws. if you come to bali, for example, on a tourist visa, then it is obvious that you cannot work, if you want to do it in a completely different way completely different documents and procedure for registration of your stay in the country. yes here, of course. probably, it should be reminded, perhaps to those who, let's say, are somewhat far from this question, that we have a category of russian citizens, including those who, in the first place, prefer to spend the winter in bali by force. understandably, the wonderful climate someone prefers to live there for a while. and so

i would like to understand for those tourists who are traveling now, right? what you need to remember, nevertheless, what documents can be prepared in order to generally not face this difficulty. valid in order to obtain a visa on arrival. uh, in bali, by the way, you can get a visa and at the embassy. uh, then uh your stay in bali can be extended if necessary, because visa on arrival , uh, only allows one month stay in the country, firstly you need your passport to be valid for at least six months at the time of crossing the border . otherwise , you will not be allowed into the country, you must have a return air ticket, pay the visa fee and e, remember that you can only stay in the country for uh, 30 days, yes, and provide uh, a certificate of two-time measles vaccination, 19. in general

, i have noticed all the time now that i am talking to the bali authorities all the time but how independent they are . yes, this is probably the general position of the indonesian authorities on this issue. that is, is it reflected in the decisions that are made in bali, taking into account the fact that the economy, of course, is a country. this is also very important to understand very significant the degree depends on the tourists. uh, of course, the bali authorities cannot decide to change immigration laws and immigration rules. i said that it was the proposal of the balinese governor, because suppose you flew in. e to the country in e. jakarta. uh, and that they won't give you, uh, a visa on arrival. and if you uh, there cheated another and another different regime will stay? of course not, this is the prerogative of the central government. and as i said, it is unlikely that such a decision will be made in the context of how

times the economy. yes, i mean indonesian, in your opinion. to what extent jakarta is interested in returning direct flights between our countries. of course, there is such an interest, if you take statistics, then according to the data of the national statistical agency of indonesia, there are about 300,000 tourists. uh, is currently at the base of them. well, probably a little less than 10% are russians. naturally , there is a great interest in having russians come to bali, especially since our tourists come enough long time. eh, and as you know they spend enough. uh, a lot of money, such negotiations are conducted under sanctions, of course, uh, that's it. not just, but there is an application from the side of russian airlines. uh, this is not a question of tomorrow, but there is hope that in the future, as it was, by the way, before covid , direct flights were carried out, and also, by the

way, about sanctions, there was information that the indonesian authorities were considering the possibility of abandoning payment systems. visa and master cards and connected it was including with the fact that the russians, who are really quite a lot of them, are in indonesia yes, they stopped. in general, to have the opportunity to pay with these cards. and just like the president of indonesia i mean talking about it. tell me, is there any progress, is there any exchange of experience in this matter? yes, there was a statement from the president of the republic of indonesia , jokovido, and that indonesia would consider the possibility of creating its own payment system, but it seems to me that in the current conditions, any sensible government. e, having seen what is going on and how the financial system is being used as a tool of blackmail pressure, will consider how to acquire more e, autonomy and financial sovereignty. oh yes, such

contacts are being made between our countries. we have a working group on finance and banking. and uh, there are such contacts and let's hope that these contacts will lead to some significant result. thank you very much. thank you for being in touch with us today. that's just an important phrase, a, which you said. yes , any sensible government said, you are , against the backdrop of the chaos taking place in the world, of course, it is very pleasant that the state remains. immediately smart governments that make smart decisions in the interests of their people. thank you very much for your attention. we are ready. i am a programmer, a hairdresser, a landowner, a welder , volunteers. i have decided to volunteer for my own. i'm going to protect my

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