tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 March 31, 2023 9:00pm-9:30pm MSK
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[000:00:00;00] and for this, there is, in general, the ministry that will regulate them and fulfill all the requests of doctors. well, naturally, there are problems associated with a lack of medical personnel, because, during the evacuation, part of the medics remained on the right side and they are being forcibly tried now evacuate towards western ukraine and in general, uh, everything that is happening now in kherson, uh, it seems that the ukrainian regime is very, very not sure that they will have to hold kherson for a long time, emphasizes. all the same , only a matter of time will be returned. yes huge thank you too. and uh. i think that we will continue to talk, because sowing and all other work is going on, because this is extremely important in these conditions. thank you
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very much. all the best. thanks this week, the statement of several serbian officials attracted attention , several representatives of belgrade at once started talking about the country's possible accession to anti-russian sanctions. to what extent these statements reflect the official position of the rural authorities. we talked with the russian ambassador to serbia alexander, here he is kharchenko alexander arkadyevich hello, thank you for finding time for us. ah. i would like to talk to you about the situation in serbia because there is some disturbing news. well, for us anyway come, and from the country. but maybe this is just how you would describe the situation in the country. ah. i mean that lately there are more and more signs and signals, and the serbian authorities are giving aside cooperation with the west and thinking about whether they will join the sanctions, but against ours. country or not? they also sound. eh, everything, more often or
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is it not? well, it may be correct to answer for a start that, probably, some elements are not quite so, as they were called? uh, they are, well, defiant, and they undoubtedly exist, but i would not dramatize the situations. and uh. i can not say that in the last period. so to say, there, let's take two or three weeks. yes, there were some additional significant factors that would indicate the possibilities of belgrade. join the anti-russian worlds, because, well, there were disturbing elements. uh, the entire period from february 24th of last
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year. more precisely, since march last year, when the president of serbia vučić and the national security council of serbia approved formulated just such a line of rejection of anti-russian measures , and yet i would like to emphasize now , probably the most important thing, that throughout this period without any exceptions, and this line was maintained really. she was aged consistently was not. there is no attempt to hide something uh, evade uh, to engage in some kind of dual activity, and at the same time, starting from the same mentioned decision by the national security council of serbia , of course, began to appear, and frequent
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pickups. with uh, individual elements sometimes there were more of them, sometimes less, which made you think. will belgrade be able to withstand this line, but i will repeat it once again. i believe that we are probably touching on the topic of serbia and anti-russian measures in e. with every interaction. eh, but now i'm even grateful that we singled it out, which i believe and i hope it will give an opportunity somehow on some aspects related to this topic, maybe a little more detail . and i will try to explain, uh, the essence of, uh, serbia's approach. well, in general, there is everything to explain. well, for example, what surprised me this week. or maybe it was a little earlier, yes this week, and this is
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a statement by the prime minister of the country. the fact that they are in solidarity with the ukrainian people, how is this to be understood in general? well, in what context is it taken out of context or something else with the regime whether ukraine, respectively, or simply with the people, but with the people, how to understand the regime, nothing was said , moreover, there are no special contacts with the kiev regime, despite the fact that you are well known, and the westerners are pushing the leadership of serbia in every possible way to have active contacts with the kiev regime, but i repeat they are not, what was said yes is said, and this, as it were, answers. mm, one of the sides, uh, the serbian approach. and this side is in e. maintaining this
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causes us, of course, disappointment. this fact is not repeatedly talked about this series. resolutions by the general assembly, condemning russia and stating that e special military operations are aggression, serbia acceded to such documents, emphasizing that it supports territorial integrity and take some other positions when voting conspiracies, starting e, territorial integrity are linked to its internal kosovo problem. of course, there are some manifestations of solidarity to which additional a with ukraine are pushing the west, in particular, this event at which this announcement was made
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by the prime minister. this is supply. it is small, perhaps, it is purely symbolic. uh, the supply of a number of materials for the restoration of electrical facilities to ukraine yes, i wanted to ask this the second question , because there was also e even somehow it was said with such boastfulness that we are the only ones, and from the countries in the balkans, and in general in europe who provided such equipment. and what to rejoice in, it’s understandable that if this is one thing for people, but uh, they will transport military equipment and so on in this problem. and it turns out that we, uh, are trying to destroy the infrastructure on our allies. well, rather, friends allies, not the right word, but the serbs supply this electrical equipment. well, it's kind of weird, it 's fucking, i agree. i can't here. uh, of course, disagree. and i would be quite happy if this were not the case, and
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he answered negatively to such tripping with pressure from the west. well decided well to find some kind of compromise. here, in principle, belgrade's line is, uh, which continues to orient itself towards membership in the european union, continues to conduct pre-accession negotiations, continues to fulfill the demands that are made from brussels well , to be more precise, that are made by the west, but they are formulated in washington yes, now it is absolutely clear and this is one side of this serbian line, the second side is preservation. uh, full-scale cooperation with russia and rejection of sanctions as far as possible in the current conditions, within the framework of these two elements of the two factors that determine the approach of belgrade, and
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the serbian leadership is acting in this case, it decided that while maintaining a principled position on sanctions for cooperation with us , such cooperation is developing nowhere . i might have to make concessions to the demands of the west and , uh, give some, and the equipment is actually small, i would say, given the needs that actually exist there, it probably has more symbolic character, but i am not belittling, i am emphasizing once again that and of course this is a disappointment or not in serbia’s approaches well, yes, of course, it is clear that serbia is sovereign country, they make a decision, they carry it out, but it's just that in some difficulties you always have to take, uh, this or that in the direction of a decision. and what do you think, these
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two conditional parties will be called that, and in the serbian leadership? which of them will win , you mean two parties, that is, one is about the russian and the other. well, let's say anti-russian, with which i can't agree with an apology, because there is no second party. here, uh, the party, or rather, the coalition is one, which stands on a single platform. it really is, uh, moreover practically everything is decided by the president. the vertical is quite clear and strictly observed, and, uh, the government works under its direct supervision, this is really the situation. and what concerns. i understand very well that such a thought about two camps of parties. well, whatever you want, but it was prompted by a recent statement,
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and one of the ministers. specifically, the ministers of the economy, yes, yes, what you need to join the sanctions, yes, which openly became completely unexpected. i will emphasize this to speak in favor of belgrade revising its uh, position and joining the anti-russian worlds. allowing myself to comment on this statement and the whole situation around, er, this minister, this statement. it was completely unexpected. we understood this from conversations. e with his leaders on the party line and from the biseks in the government. eh, that is, it is not, in any case, this statement was not and is not a reflection of the approach to any part of the government. that is, it
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was some kind of personal initiative at the moment? uh-huh yeah, his personal approach is another matter. we don't know what this personal approach on faith is really strange. well, two things are strange. first, i was extremely surprised, because not long before . uh, i met with this minister and talked about our cooperation. believe me , there was no hint of his different approach, which he later formulated publicly. and even i did not feel any heightened restraint. yes, and here is the development of our ties, and most of this information of this cooperation, as you and i understand, relates to his portfolio the second point. indeed, there may be circumstances may change. and uh
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, a person's view of his worldview, philosophy, and so on can change, but uh, still an honest decent approach. in this case, it provides for the first rejection of the platform that he welcomed to e, with which he solemnly agreed in the parliament of serbia and on the basis of which the government of serbia was formed, in which he entered as a minister. he refused to do so, but made a statement that directly contradicts important parts of this platform. that there is, but i understand that it is personally his, most likely, initiatives and some new ups and downs there, they touched on a very important thing and said that after all, and this is not the main position of the government. serbia is the main thing, that's what i wanted to hear at the moment anyway, and alexandrovich you are great. thank you. we will follow developments. i understand that everything is very simple, everything
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is changing rapidly, and therefore we discuss this with you from time to time. thank you. all the best. another very important topic from the situation around kiev-pechersk lavra is very difficult. right now, the news agency is transmitting, in particular, ria novosti, and eyewitnesses also tell the agency, and many young people of athletic build approach the monastery from the arsenalnaya metro station, asking for directions, presumably they are not local and could be delivered for extras. and let me remind you again, you are shouting fascist slogans and nazi salutes and so on. well, something very familiar and now let's talk in more detail about what is happening around kiev-pechersk lavra. uh, believers continue to pray, standing at the local metropolitan lavra. in the evening, pavel announced that
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an attack on the monastery was still being prepared . vladimir olegoyda, chairman of the synodal department for relations between the church, society and the media of the moscow patriarchate, is in touch with us, a. vladimir romanovich hello , how would you comment on all this well, the situation is extremely alarming. we are watching the news with excitement and anxiety, indeed, everything you said is what we now hear and see, and believers praying praying not the first day for the members of the ukrainian orthodox church faithful to the ukrainian orthodox church, there are a lot of people whose behavior can be sugar characterized by the behavior of provocateurs. and of course, here is the data on what appears in athletic-looking people. poorly understanding what is happening, but, apparently, having some kind of water, so to speak, for certain actions. all this does not add optimism to the current situation. kyiv authorities. they also
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asked for the 29th. well, to put it mildly, to liberate the abode on and today, 31, and that's all, it indicates that the tension is growing further, and the kiev authorities have apparently taken a pause. eh, do you think they will go to extreme measures? i really don’t want to and i hope that maybe they won’t go, but really these statements, or rather, the demands of the monk who raped the krickevsky lavra to leave the monastery, which were contained in the director’s letter. ah, the museum, or rather, the acting one. e director of the museum. according to the characteristics of official representatives of the ukrainian church, they is in the dnieper field, since the legal solution of issues involves either a certain court decision or some kind of agreement between the parties, which was not, but judging by the actions of the ukrainian authorities in recent days. that's literally the last two
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days. they are moving hmm in parallel, trying, that is, to propose some sort of legal solutions, which, of course, are difficult to call such, but at the same time escalating the situation at the expense of, and such people, whom we started the conversation, and of course. i repeat all this, except for anxiety and excitement of increasing unrest, so far, it does not cause anything, and so far, it is not yet clear how this can be decided in favor of the ukrainian church of the situation, but vladimir ivanovich, nevertheless, you spoke about some relatively speaking peace initiatives, that is, not to release by force, not to use force in various ways. but still try to negotiate. and maybe there is some kind of understanding of what he is talking about. you said that this is not very suitable for life, but nevertheless. i didn't talk about these peaceful ones. i'm talking about the fact that in addition to this pressure, and which now it is carried out due to the fact that
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some people come and often, for example , the police are inactive, and not always, but there were moments that were recorded on video, where the police simply silently observe this with some kind of provocative action. i meant that the kiev authorities, and having received the answer of the ukrainian church that, uh, the letters above, they are marked with legal force, they also resort to other means. yes, allegedly declared, there , more precisely, allegedly declared invalid , uh, which was concluded between a-a, that means, a-a monastery and a museum. yes, some time ago, that is, the treaty was annulled, that is, these are attempts to present the case, so there are legal ones, but decisions, the consequences of which should be the drawing up of the monks of the monastery, this is by no means a peaceful decision, because it is a peaceful decision all the same, it implies observance of the rights of those monks of seminarians, since lavriki
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is not only a monastery, but also a seminary of the kiev theological academy. that's all, it's hundreds of people, and that's why, of course, there's no peaceful solution here. unfortunately, the rice is not in question, either about some sharp steps now, yes, which are a forceful option, or he can call himself a gradual extrusion. well, now thanks, including to those hundreds and thousands of believers who have already been in the monastery for several days, so far this forceful decision. but no, but we do not know what will happen next, we are anxiously watching. here we watch the news every minute in fact. not just every hour. yes, laim ivanovich, you are also following with concern, after all. this is not just a temple , not just monasteries and so on. this is some this is a sacred place of orthodoxy. and this is how to address the re-, uh, the kiev authorities in translation. this is all, supposedly a dispute between economic entities, it almost turns out, well, here is an agreement. there is something else here, but we all already understand very well that we are actually talking about
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a political decision and political actions, and not about the fact that, by the way, it was yanukovych in his time. yes, this is a contract. well, the last one that works. i understand correctly, and vladimir ivanovich, and when i spoke about mirny and that is of course the quoted word i meant it would not work. that's it . so, and through these thugs who were brought there or some other official power structures, they will simply, well, simply take people out of there yes, by force. and i meant it, well, vladimir ivanovich and nevertheless. this is the intention of believers to stay. e in lavria and spend the night there to protect her, eh, how can this be treated? does it need to be done? well, of course, it is definitely necessary, and we pray that the lord will give strength to all this to the people who are now there and because, of course, the pressure that you rightly
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described. as a political one, i want to say again that it is carried out outside of any legal one. fields, this is all legal absurdity, and we expected, of course, although, to be honest, hmm , we hoped more precisely, but we didn’t really count on some kind of resonance in the world community. and you, too, have addressed this topic more than once in the materials of your channel. once again, i want to emphasize that patriarch kirill not so long ago appealed to world political religious leaders. eh, there was practically no reaction , to my great regret, yes in such a blatant non-legal situation, a violation of human rights, but there was a reaction to the pope and there was a reaction from the un, which, by the way, followed. such a completely rude response to the response of the ministry of culture of ukraine e, which, by the way, also caused such a rather harsh response to hmm from the united nations. here but
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unfortunately, here, to be honest, i, well, yes, and there was, of course, there was, of course, a reaction from a number of local orthodox churches after the conversion. and you sit at their heads cyril but of course, this is a drop in the ocean. and if we talk about what happens in the western media, but, of course, there was a timid hope that the reaction of the world community would somehow affect the ukrainian authorities. but so far we see that there is absolutely no effect. well, it's like they say, it's different, it 's just a different democracy, but, of course, it's a certain nonsense and, uh, this duplicity is such cynicism that now manifested in relation to the brick, lavra. it is so obvious, after all, and there are still millions in ukraine, believers who they want to see what is happening here, and yet no one even thinks about what the consequences are and so on, but vladimir ivanovich and nevertheless.
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what do you think, is it still possible, and still somehow hope for an international reaction, because the kiev authorities they have an international reaction so if they pat on the head, they say, yes this is a good world reaction, if they have any make comments, they are just rude in return. they don't even answer. they are just rude. and yet. is it possible to count on this for an international reaction and it has already been said that the pope and so on spoke about inadmissibility. about the actions of the kiev authorities some kind of continuation of the international reaction. uh, you can probably count on some plan, but the fact that it will have some kind of impact, uh, on the ukrainian authorities. well, unfortunately, it is almost impossible to understand what is. let's call them consultants ukrainian authorities, but in fact the people who largely determine the actions of the ukrainian authorities, but apparently from these people. and this political force, of course, did not receive any input from the ukrainian authorities. and if received, then just the same
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water on well, in fact, the destruction of the ukrainian orthodox church. this course has been taken. he's pretty tough, having taken off late since november last year. that's when the pressure on the ukrainian church rarely increased sharply and there is a feeling that the ukrainian authorities are simply achieving this goal without looking at all at all. what is happening, ignoring uh, including uh, the growing tension within ukrainian society. even i would say. in what sense is it rational? ignoring the possible consequences for oneself, because uh, well, it's quite clear. we can see there , after such an emotional speech by viceroy laurus and metropolitan pavel yes , which all of mine have seen and uh, which have spread all over the world, you can see that this is what emotions aside ukrainian authorities are completely determined by the people. yes, this is not one, but the metropolitan. paul said so. yes, i think, hundreds of thousands, probably
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millions of people today, but i’m repeating this already. in what sense, perhaps, such a desire to destroy the ukrainian church is irrational, that there is nothing good for ukraine, for ukrainian society and for the ukrainian authorities. in the end , it won't, of course. thank you very much. we are following very closely, following the developments around the kiev-pechersk lavra. eh, i'll remind you. we spoke with the chairman of the synodal department for church relations, and with the media society of the moscow patriarchy by vladimir allega. in addition to the event, which today is in the top of the news, president of belarus alexander lukashenko delivered a message to the people and parliament 4.5 hours of live broadcast and all the acute and important topics in them ukraine the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons, of course, the internal agenda, what is there with the successor - it is too. uh,
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it was also talked about, well, about everything in more detail anastasia sakhovskaya. stand at the podium of the palace of the republic alexander lukashenko offers to sit down at the negotiating table. immediately, the so-called counteroffensive thrust irreversible escalations. russia has everything to repel any attack. a common language can be found with the military and the belarusian leader to talk about the beginning of sabotage in the ukrainian army. and zelensky by decree forbidding himself to speak with russia in his opinion. just ridiculous. don't the people of ukraine need peace? well, who cares about the opinion of this very people. that's all independence for you. i'll try to take the risk of suggesting an end to hostilities, a truce, without the right to move, a regrouping of troops on both sides, they believe that they will win. it is nonsense
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it is impossible to defeat a nuclear power, but it is required that i start fighting against putin against russia you vile people foreign troops behind the fence in latvia right now an expanded nato battle group 3,000 troops from ten countries is training, and in total more than 20,000 nato soldiers in the baltic states and poland which is rearming its americans and south koreans, the threat to the security of belarus is greater than ever 2,500 guests in the palace of the republic well, of course, the audience of the presidential message is much more than 4.5 hours on the main tv channels of the country, perhaps for the first time such an event takes place against such a sharp geopolitical background, and many of the statements that were expected were made here, a weapon that has no equal returns rare footage. this is the ninety -sixth withdrawal from belarus of the nuclear arsenal under pressure, said lukashenka and under guarantees, which are now completely crossed out. and this is a fresh video of the belarusian ministry of defense, the latest iskander m. they can hit 500 km. local media write that we are talking about nuclear warheads for these complexes , nuclear warheads, nuclear warheads. can and
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our converted aircraft all the infrastructure is created and ready. i am sure that these measures will sober up all overseas, the hawk of their satellites, for a long time. oh, they’ll place nuclear weapons in belarus, we are imposing sanctions against you that we’ve gone crazy. have you forgotten that you already imposed sanctions yesterday? failed trade with russia. a record $50 billion, but the attention of the union economy. need more. this is also about sovereignty , national security, there are already imports of independent belaz trucks, not only a dozen projects with russia in engineering, but the horizon is wider than aircraft engineering, biotechnology , microelectronics. it's time to finally get rid of other people's bolt nuts and produce truly our own products, including the product of the union state, of course, inside the political agenda. there are parliamentary elections ahead. further, the presidential company and the traditional question of the ancients and the heirs to stop all talk about
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heredity and continuity. my children will not be presidents until their last days. i am not going to die in this position. i will work for the good of our countries. i will never be a lame duck and the very near future alexander lukashenko announced a personal meeting with vladimir putin president will once again discuss the topic of ukraine before the meeting of the supreme council of the union state next day in moscow anastasia sakovskaya alexandra alexandrovich news, minsk after a short advertisement, our program will continue on air conduct duty, and i'm strong alexander
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