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forties. the activities of all these radical groups are sponsored. from the west of the usa for many years, around the largest automobile plant in togliatti, their workers huddled inconspicuous underground workshops copying spare parts of the car. hello are you closing hologram businessmen rowing, money shoveled. absolutely not caring that their fakes cause fatal accidents like this brake pad, without marking , the police destroyed the underground garage empire in tolyatti, only then counterfeiting for domestic cars did not stop earlier. counterfeit discovered

traded openly now everything is done under the counter trying to make quality. but the current pirates of the automotive industry are starting to run away from us. we took on the case and conducted our own investigation. hello dear friends on the air, the fifth studio is talking about current topics , of course, one of the most important topics of recent times is the spread of weapons that are in the world. yes, it's being actively discussed.

uh, well, it’s clear that nato’s strategies continue to be primarily connected with ukraine, and they are pumping up this country with modern weapons and they are going to do it more and more and more, and some sensible voices that are heard in europe even sometimes come across very rare, but it happens even there not to mention normal countries and other regions, and which soberly assess the situation. they say that well, even trump the day before, when he was released from custody for a while, a said that the biden administration is leading to a third world war, even there there is already some kind of enlightenment for some, and representatives of american history, because it appears. ah, well, nevertheless, the subject continues, and i'll remind you. the fact that on the eve of uh, foreign ministry spokesperson aria zakharova announced the amount of us military support for ukraine at first, a special operation already exceeded 35 billion dollars, and after the adoption of the new package

. according to him, the west continues to do everything to ensure that the conflict in ukraine is long and bloody, and of course, this is a problem that is now worrying everyone and another one is the expansion of nato and of course. this is, uh, just a couple of days ago, finland joined the bloc, and the country for many years, well, not even years, probably, for centuries it was almost or was part of russia or sweden well, in general, uh, the country of which was neutral for a long time the last decades. so i decided to become e, nato member well, uh, even china has already commented on finland's accession to nato to increase the security risk, and in europe and urged russia to respond. this is an assistant researcher at the center for russian studies at the east asian pedagogical university. eh, tsu-hyung. e, urged russia to respond to new security challenges, that is, chinese

specialists in e, political science and world politics. these are, uh, things they declare and certainly unconditionally. the topic of weapons is extremely important and we now have a unique the opportunity to talk to the person. and who deeply penetrated this topic for a long time. and in our studio, konstantin gavrilov is the head of the delegation of the russian federation in vienna on issues of military security and arms control, and konstantinovich i am glad to welcome you. thank you for coming, and lately technology allows us to do so for a long time. we talked remotely . well, a lively conversation, she is always ah, konstantinovich let's start. e from the forum, which took place just recently. eh, you discussed the issues from which i a little bit already voiced a few words about what is at stake. uh, as you know, the winter round of negotiations has already ended

. security cooperation forum this forum was created and took place in the fourth year. decision uh, the media yes of the summit, but it deals with military-political issues during this period, during this time , serious issues were discussed, uh , documents relating to the military-political aspects were modernized, this is a vienna document documents they transfer conventional weapons and conflict zones easily small arms code of conduct relating to political issues. yes, and many others. and this went on for a long time. we were engaged in this delegation, well, with the start of a special military operation. uh, hmm, they are westerners immediately. uh, they ukrainianized the agenda of the forum. this round was no different. eh , only in intensity, he is more hysterical with unfounded accusations and

so on, but when making a film adaptation, he rejects the discussion of specific measures, building confidence and security, as a particular prevention. uh, high seas airspace incidents. uh, they refuse. it's easy to discuss. although the theme for this. as you know, but there are, uh, advantages for us, they film the agenda of the meetings. we, for your part, have an excellent platform for finishing with video materials. what is happening in the spo zone with us and the agenda is about conducting a special military operation, which, of course, irritates them wildly and they cannot block it. by the way, here are some more details, please, because questions are often asked. but if they don't want to listen to us, maybe we don't need to talk to them. we only work for the result. and where then

to bring all these topics are engaged in this. uh, our uh, mediation in new york is handled by a permanent council. eh, i'm happy with it too. we are engaged and sites in fact, where we show them all of them e have not heard. here is some evidence of what is happening. in fact, specific video materials of the destroyed are outrageous in the humanitarian sphere. here, uh, these shots, these refugees. eh, here shooting at houses. in hospitals, so they disperse fakes everywhere and so on. but we show something completely different. and it infuriates them. no, it will have to be used absolutely definitely do not want to. they are now talking to us. and on the military-political issues of creating some kind of trust events, we will bring this to them, they don’t like it, they wouldn’t want it. and we

need to use this and wait for the moment when they finally sober up a little and move from hysteria to sanity to some steps. a aktsionevich. here. let's recall a little bit you have already said how it happened before the special operation, and because after all diplomacy. she did not appear yesterday, uh, one is clear and it is unlikely that she will disappear tomorrow. it is clear that now i'm hmm surprised. looking at s-, e, even from the side , like e in the west, the bar fell. eh, now we'll talk a little bit later, probably, about that shore that we taught yesterday. life and so on. uh, like westerners, uh, in fact, this one, oh, he is always such a high enough level of a diplomat. uh, they lowered it below the plinth , in my opinion, but this is a separate issue. here. please tell us how, in theory, the meeting should have been, when they were, but i participated in the work of the forum back in

the late nineties when it began with me. i worked as an adviser. e aggression began in yugoslavia in the ninety-ninth year. then i worked through the osce. i 've seen it all. all the technology. people gathered to work out documents working groups. e, proposals were made for the modernization of the vienna document for the development of politically binding documents defined by e policy. uh, the work went on as usual good work not all accounted for was a collision contradict normal. all due respect and so forth now. well, of course it's all in a slightly different color, however. we live in a new situation. and we need to adapt and counteract this situation, that is, our task, and it is said in the foreign policy concept of the renewed russian federation that our goals are to achieve the security of the russian federation - to ensure sovereignty, e

integrity. e achieve peace in european. uh, continent for this you need to use all the instruments of international formats, including uh, and i work in the security cooperation forum, which in principle we did them again. you uh remembered the updated concept of foreign policy. and you have drawn definite conclusions for yourself, of course, it changes, so issue it accordingly. but these accents are placed in a completely different way because the concept has changed. as i see in each of several 7-8 years. well cope under real here it is once again in the course of what happens reflects reality. to me it seems that it does not correspond to the current reality, and we will fulfill it in every possible way, as it should be for a diplomat, but, nevertheless, the task is complex

. yes, especially in our time , yes, and i'm news. hey, it's urgent. forgive finland, led by anna marin a, resigned. well, it is clear that they lost the election to her party. and i don’t think that this is connected with joining nato, because there are a lot of comments now that they have come ostensibly people who are more sober in this regard. there is no need to flatter yourself, but if you dig and look and the statement of those who have come now put the one who will form a new project in finland there, not friends of russia have come, that’s for sure and therefore it’s very early to rejoice, but nonetheless. this is important information. and we 'll talk about finland a little later. you and i, then, it’s better to finish for now, and with uh, already the diplomatic part. we are now done on er, the crux of the matter, er armaments of proliferation, because

after all, but an extremely important topic and, uh, it seems that this whole system of international security and arms control rules that were unspoken vowels, are they now going somewhere or is it not like many many things that are on our own experience. uh, during the work of the delegation. we see yes violated pour political binding documents. they are not legally binding, however. they are broken. this is a transfer of small arms. after all, look at what quantities everything goes, only all documents are accepted, for example initiators of the discussion in their time. e on the forum. uh, the control of the lungs over the man-portable anti-aircraft missile systems were the americans and they yes, it was the americans that were all. this is literally 2-3 years ago and that's it. it is trampled on, all of this is trampled on and nothing is being done. and our task. we show all the time. you

are violating this, this, this is so unacceptable, and this , of course, does not like it very much when all this is voiced on our social networks. we all communicate with each other, we still communicate, well, rarely, they try to us ignore. some talk on the sly so big brother can't see. even so, yes, there is. there is, of course, communication is the explosiveness of all people, some, as i understand it, can quietly applaud under the table so that no one sees when we say some right, necessary things. well, it's not advertised. they are trying to act as a single blo. to show that we are like that when we go out like this. for example , our chairman of the public court in ukraine was grigoriev. we called him. so they defiantly went out, and sat on the network on video. everyone sat and watched, and the effect itself is necessary, of course. uh,

arms control is not a priority right now, but i assure you there will be a balance. eh, so to speak, the situation will be balanced and it will still come to the point that it will be necessary to agree on certain documents on arms control precisely in europe and europe will not go anywhere, but it will still remain a neighbor and will still have to agree when this is an issue. well, i think they're still up to this will ripen. and now, uh, everything is being decided, as the well-known mr. borey says on the battlefield. here it decides. unfortunately, the chief diplomat of europe, yes, unfortunately, all this is being decided on the battlefield for any negotiations with the ukrainian side and the nato members are not ready. they are just teasing. ah, ukrainians. nothing good will come of it. well, uh, but nevertheless, these elements that have previously

been developed on them can somehow be used by the expert potential must be used, and i think this time is just around the corner. but i just wanted to ask you. and how long to wait? well, it’s clear that the lord god only knows all the assessments of the future, what will happen tomorrow, but nevertheless, that is, and i think that this is this armory hospital. it may end badly, the same, but conditional stingers , after all, you can shoot e we are on this we talk about this, almost at every meeting, because it diverges on the black market, you can find it on the black internet and how much does it cost on the src how much is 5.000 there? how many euros sell dollars creeps on middle east europe on criminal gangs and so on danger? of course , there is a danger, and we tirelessly talk about it until they hear it very well. but this, as they say, until the thunder strikes, the peasant will not cross himself. well, we hope

that it will not come to this and we are taking all measures to nevertheless call on, uh, former partners to take reasonable steps. and after all it is necessary to leave a condition of effect. it is a state of effects, you understand and start real business, when everything falls into place by military means, predict in these cases. this is impossible, of course, the purpose of the special operation. they are clear to everyone in our country the support has to be achieved. so in terms of terms, this one is generally without promising classes. well, yes, this is not in our area, there are military experts who do this to discuss. yes, and in fact everything is decided on the battlefield according to the operational plan and strategic plans. i mean that she decides life. yes? what a way to speak. and you know, uh, there is a feeling, you said about russia when you listen saying respected wanted to say western

analysts. but you know, yesterday, uh, i saw, uh, the ceremony of presenting harmful letters of the president from and there was yes, and in the sun, and i saw her face. yes, this is the face when our president was chopping down this truth. here, as usual, just explained. and i had such a feeling that she had nothing to say for real, even spas are not usually accepted. yes, nothing in response to speak according to the protocol, but i mean, even if i had such an opportunity, it seems to her there is nothing to say, here, but this is what i mean, what u now uh, what do you think, what u all the same? eh, the chinese comrades have recently joined very actively. here i have already given comments, but there are many official comments, a and so on. and what do you think, uh, if u chinese comrade will play an active more role? this will help you to work and here they are, unfortunately, or

participate in the forum. for example , japan also participates in observers. china is not there for its own reasons. here but in any case, m-m does not want support or it's like like me i don't know for sure yet. it might be worth thinking in this direction. here, uh, well, nevertheless, the opposition of the prc itself is yes. positions of diplomats i worked, for example, with chinese diplomats. uh, the rise of the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons will be zombaspreda and being already inside the organization as some kind of directors. uh, one of the departments. all events were organised. we cooperated very closely and actively with the chinese. unfortunately, this is not in european, well, due to the circumstances of the european organization. here but herself support is the political line itself, which has been strengthened in recent times. the voices of china are sounding stronger and stronger. the benefit

of what is needed is to end the conflict and negotiate. here is an understanding of the russian position of everything, of course, this is helped by a significant ally who leads the line. uh, and a successful visit. right now, uh, the chairs are a very important element, of course, it has. moral and political support for us, well, they lead these conversations. yes, like russia is already china in its comments. eh, here you need here you need here you are, and you don't need it. this is the immediate question. well, sometimes it’s hard to argue with them simply, because there are no arguments to talk about what is happening, there is no argument, there is no trial. you understand here. and you, are you a fool? why is the hat like this? yes? it was time. yes, absolutely right. yes, but uh

, that's understandable. that is, they do not want to defiantly listen to anything. eh, this is clear, but nevertheless in life past will make it do exactly. and you know, uh, it's clear what am i doing about china now, uh, this is a libel from the erk times, or whoever wrote it about the statement of a chinese diplomat about yes, and they drive, of course, into our relationship. this is the address to write perfectly, because if we interacted more closely, it might be more difficult to do this. i mean in european. i understand that this is not a question for china. although macron has gone, maybe he will invite china and nothing can be done. separate. we will not discuss the topic now, but in finland there is a neighbor 1,200 km nearby. new border with nato - it's a fact, something happened this week. uh, serious topic. eh, how much will it affect? what's the security for? this is where our

leader comes into play. eh, they've spoken. hey, everyone has spoken. er, on this topic, of course, it changes the er, imbalance. uh safety security issues on uh. in europe , a border of more than 1,000 km appears. with more. yes, 300 thousand there, well, how to count there? yes you, of course, and this step does not lead to stability. and now the presidential press secretary, mr. peskov, has already clearly outlined everything. this is what it will take rebalancing of the entire security system. here are the scammers, uh with finland and on this northwestern block. for now, minister shoigu and the president will say that a corps will be formed. in the future, and so on , there will be practical measures in order to bring all possible threats into line. but it's not a one-time thing, as was said. this will be extended over time. well, here comes the question. why is finland

you literally in january last year? there is no this year of the past on the eve of the special operation, there was just a discussion about this on the forum. yes, they neutralize these raised the question. and why did it arise then, and incomprehensible even about the agenda form the chairman. uh, he decided to be neutral there as well and spoke clearly back then in january. last year, that the military-interrite has long been lost to both finland and sweden and even austria er, quietly drifting to a greater extent sweden finland has done since the first year. after the collapse of the soviet union, they did not actively become a partnership, for the sake of peace, participate in nato membership and so on. in all these programs, pulling up their standards to those of nato. that is, it was visible. yes, in principle, probably, yes, that’s our military leadership and the leadership of the country, of course, we didn’t lose sight of this, we talked about it and

the reaction is special to them, that they are losing their neutral status and losing many of the advantages that they have, of course, they were a little aroused, but they began to respond to something. only then do they comment, they commented, but then with a request from the capital, that is, to speak openly like this. they could and reassured everyone that everything would be fine. well, as it turned out, they went to this goal. here are the questions why from finland activated? it seems to me that they just pushed it all the time, and sweden and finland were pushed, so for me it seems that studying the materials that there is with the finns , the question arises. why is the issue of the arctic it seems to me that the reserves of such a plaza are a gift to me yes mineral fertilizers mineral mineral resources coal gas, not coal, gas oil, gas while the reserves in the arctic are 30 trillion cubic kilometers back to half. yes

billion oil 25% of world reserves. here, and the strength of the west yes, today is not enough, but russia has enough in finland for them easier. it seems to me that this is drawing finland into this matter. i don’t want to believe that one of them could in the future do the same thing that they did with the ukrainians. repelled 5 million. they all have a small 25.000 22.000, well, they will make a million reservists. and do not forget 280,000 reservists of the first category. within a few days they can be put under bayonets, of course, it is impossible. no need here. i think, our guide. i don't even doubt competence. all this is taken into account and planned in order to stop this kind of threat, but the reason, it seems to me, is connected, uh, with the arctic, by the way, yuryevich and at the end

of our conversation. uh. this is a closely related issue in finland and european security in general. after all, it is clear that all these steps, which you have already mentioned, but they were prepared in advance, and what do they want , the europeans want to ensure their security in this way. you understand , here comes the question. everyone gets it like finland will go as a neutral state within a certain after the collapse of the soviet union to the side, and all the military nato stro-european structures. difficult something at all, uh that she created? just for myself, problems out of the blue. you look, uh, terminating contracts, calling on russia, blaming russia for all sins, refusing gas, and so on. uh, chopping off all the ends of inflation of 8.8% on a single product up to 30, what happens

to themselves only makes it worse to shoot themselves in the foot. well, for evil now there is a huge cost on the contrary, but you budget money. no, it is a deficit that is incomprehensible to a reasonable thought in a person, it is logically incomprehensible why it’s not only russophobia that drives all this. well, it’s unlikely, but still, somehow, she’s just being pushed towards this, because look, there’s nothing not a referendum. they did not ask the opinion of the people, but they seem to be polling 65% for yes, it's simple and that's it and nothing can be done , you understand? this was not done in sweden either. as i understand it, they recognize our referendum. we have a normal life. and they just have such important lives for the whole country and decisions are made like in france, yes, they just pushed. that's because of these labels. it seems from our corner in the forum they are very active they were a group structured in

a dialogue. oh yes, they headed where specific measures could be worked out. how to find new forms? uh, new elements in order to m-m reduce tension and uh security. well, you see in the result, but there were some real applications there. well , there were like a bridge, for example, trust, as let's say we proposed how to move the teaching away from the borders. that's how uh on those incidents the same and so on. we carried out this thought. they talked more and more about some kind of hybrid threats and so on. well, there was a conversation , they found common ground, and then once and for all. and here it was a group led by finnish ambassadors. that is, they theoretically conduct conversations, but practically it does not translate into anything. and now, of course, they are sitting under the flag of the european union and keep quiet, but they have no real contacts with anyone, they only

communicate with each other now. here we have an example with him next to him. we knew him and talked at the consultation were not talking to us. you understand it's huge. thanks , we're out of air time. thank you for coming to our studio. we are happy to talk with you remotely. i hope we will discuss this many more times, because the topics are extremely important and some nuances are happening all the time. it is clear that diplomacy work part of it is hidden from view. yes, it is not visible, but nevertheless the fact that you can break the silence. that's like big money. by the way, and konstantinovich thank you very much. and our time is running out. let us remind you that the head of the delegation of the russian federation in vienna on the subject of military security and arms control had a conversation with konstantin gavrilov at the studio. uh, this is the fifth studio. thank you for watching. all the best.

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