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hello in the studio ekaterina gracheva this is a church program and we are on russia 24 channel every week

we discuss the latest news in russia in the world with representatives of the russian orthodox church. and today my guest is archpriest vladimir vigelyansky rector of the church of the martyr tatyana at moscow state university father vladimir hello, i am glad to greet you. hello in a few hours. we would say to each other christ is risen, he is truly risen so it is exactly the father vladimir and here's what i would like to start about easter, we will definitely talk , but in order for the audience to still have an understanding, but a little more about you, but correct me if i 'm wrong, you are the first, uh, russian priest orthodox church, which received an official blessing from the patriarchal vision, a page. in social networks , this was forbidden, which means the meta facebook organization and then a year ago you published a whole book. well, the meeting, then, these posts on facebook why exactly did the patriarch

give you such a blessing, after all, the orthodox bloggers used to be priests, they used to make posts, but as i understand it, none of them could. eh, to convince the saint that this is a good thing. i was once at a meeting where all the priests. they say it's terrible. this is a new attack. uh, the social network is that the priest has nothing to do, that he sits on the social network or uh hmm, this is a garbage dump. he only discredits. uh, the church is what he does. uh, uh, with your posts on the social network. well, partly, it's true, well, on the other hand. we are the same about the phone we can't say. you can tell if the phone is being used, a scoundrel is one thing. and if this saint uses the phone, then it's a completely different matter. in fact, the phone is neutral. what your posts were and are

you are now i am not leading now. and at first i chose the addressee - the addressee was such that these are people who consider themselves orthodox believers, but do not go to church and there are a lot of them. you understand these people, behold, believers not churched, not churched, and they are the majority. and when we talk about what is there naming different numbers from fifty to 70% of believers in our country then, uh, whatever number is called? anyway, 2/3 of them are people with nothing to do with the church, and therefore i chose this addressee, and using hmm the baggage that i had, uh, before i became a priest, and i worked in various publications was an editor

in very famous magazines, newspapers, publishing houses. if you know the addressee, then you need to immediately understand what language and therefore this language was not so loaded with any hmm theological terminology, or, uh, some kind of religious terminology. and i wanted to show that there are events in the world that, as it were, have nothing. relations with the church are very often conflicting, very difficult to understand , you can always find an answer in england. it was my main task and therefore this book is the russian key key - this is the gospel for the last 10 years. and what has changed in the minds of students, has there become more of the so

-called churched there among the believers. uh, let's say the guys and there are not shy about the fact that they go to there or the liturgy. in the service of some community, they develop or vice versa lose interest in going to church. i think no one else. this percentage has stabilized over these 10 years. people are not as turbulent as it was in previous decades, the comings of people to the church. at the same time, in spite of everything, the number of churches is increasing, only in moscow over the past 10 years it has grown by 300 churches. more. you understand, these are very serious figures. well, let's be very direct. that's why, uh. hmm, i can't say that anything has changed in the character of those students, and i have a deceitful impression, because

some students leave me, others come, and it seems to me that it has always been like this and, uh, i really love our parishioners, students and schoolchildren. it is on them you can be equal to this amazing people. to bow down to whom in this our nightmarish senseless age and the time of a complete decline in the cultural and moral level, such pure people remain father vladimir let's talk about the main holiday for all orthodox easter what feelings did you have this year during your fast, your inner concentration, so i will say very abstract mission of the prophet, the son of god you are a man on high. uh, lord, he appeared 2,000 years ago. this prediction of the prophecy

of waiting has been fulfilled. and hmm, this event is well of epochal significance and therefore nothing is subject to any change from those evil or good winds that see our planet. of course, i am a citizen and all the clergy and parishioners are citizens of our country. of course, we are involved in the events that take place in our country and in the world in general, of course, we are bothered by this and it is important for us that the events that we evaluate right or wrong, uh, attitudes towards

them, but uh, well, is it in second or tenth place? let's talk about the context of time. ah, let's say, let's try to look from a public point of view, what happened before the events, and you see the execution of jesus, uh, well, there is an opinion that according to us or not, that, in general, his executions were brought about democratically, then everything was done in accordance with the procedure of the laws of that time, so it happened today. tell us, well, we will present it to students in modern language life. and the son of man and the son of god jesus christ - this is its main page. but at least about 10 or there seven

chapters of their gospels are devoted to this event. everything there is very subtle and very interesting, the motivations described are political, even economic , psychological and religious metaphysical clashes and conflicts that have taken place this week. the er that preceded the er on the sundays of christ were three unrighteous judgments, with the jewish and roman judgments being the most. well, how to say advanced developed and the most humane in the jewish court, for example, it was impossible without a trial without, uh, witnesses who do not contradict each

other. and therefore they called a huge number of false witnesses, but they did not repeat the same thing that the previous witnesses had said or contradicted? well, for example, uh, they accused christ of saying that he would destroy the temple, and then after 3 days it would be restored , it wasn’t. he says destroy the temple and i will restore it in 3 days. he said the temple , which in the soul is from not the real jerusalem temple, but at least he didn't say, i'm going to destroy the temple, and this, uh, false testimony has been devoted to quite a bit of time. e in the jewish court, then there was also, e, the court of pontius pilate, and also a very interesting thing that he said three times. he's not guilty, i don't see

any war behind this man. well, what he said to himself there was that he was the son of god. well , they did nothing, so they condemned christ at their trial on religious grounds. uh, a violation, and they introduced pontius, pilate, that this is a political criminal, you understand, and then there was a plebiscite from those present, who were telling whom to send to their deaths. uh, sent democratically to their deaths. christ is the main question of many e people who are only on the way to god here is the church from many. i heard this, how the lord god allowed and gave his beloved only son as a sacrifice to people. this is a metaphysical question, because, uh, he had to

give his son. and this is reflected in the famous prayer in the chashiman garden, when christ asks his father. and he himself logically understands that he must make this sacrifice , a sacrifice for all mankind, the sins of people, so that they of their own free will have chosen good and what is good and what they will choose this will be their main sentence. they will be together in eternity with christ or outside of christ. this very important point that the lord must rise again was written in the old testament in

the prophecies of the prophets. and they still had a doubt, what if it was a mission, what if he was resurrected and they thought to stop two roman guards. to prevent this from happening, and many recognize that this stone. the teacher he says is important resurrected. and next guards are standing, you know, this is an amazing thing. he resurrected and indeed they saw

only the sheets. he ascended there in 40 days. but this is a very serious event. she connects. the old testament the new testament is the aspirations of the people, otherwise here is the proof that this is a mission, that a man came, the lord came in the form of a son. god's lord came to save all mankind. and in those what we call holy week in those days uh christ teaches his disciples that i have come to give you perfect joy. what it is? what is perfect joy? there are many mysteries, but we know for sure so that everyone understands what joy is completely. come to the easter service. you look at the faces of these people who are present at

the easter service, and you will understand. what is perfect joy you will understand, what is victory over death you will understand? why do christians sing christ is risen from the dead by death, trampling down death and existing sparrows belly, that is, he gave life, let's get to the modern context. uh, how this post and passionate the week passed with our neighbors in ukraine , well, in particular with the monks, for example, the pechersk lavra. so you said, uh, at the beginning of the interview, that the answer to any event can be found in the scriptures of the gospel, everything is a commentary on any modern news. and what about the gospel , which talks about what is happening now with the persecution of the economic church in ukraine. moreover, during such a period, the period of fasting, just before

the transfer of christ by judas, is such a global event, such that christ, uh, met on the last supper with with their disciples, and he did not stop preaching. he began to speak, and he began to speak of what all the followers of his christ would endure, that there would be persecution and that they would beat and kill for christ. so we can see what is happening in these teachings, which were delivered exactly this week of holy week by christ. you look at us, they show us some pictures, like some demonic dances around the believers who go to the service. they somehow dance and somehow humiliate them

verbally and so on. there were these they danced, they beat christ from behind and spoke. guess who hit you. and if you are such a great prophet, so you understand they scoffed, fought reconciled, one of the courts was. eh, he arranged for herod simply, well, such a buffoonery. now we would call e during the interrogation of christ in what is happening. e now in ukraine well, uh, well, this is at best buffoonery, and at worst they beat bishops, because they avoided christ during the trials, they beat him like in a jewish court, which is strictly

prohibited. it's just the judges beat christ you understand, this is some kind of well and then they beat a whore. uh and well, what we are seeing now is absolutely absolutely the same repetition, but i want to say that everything happened during these two thousand years. well, probably, even unbelieving people thought about it when a person who broke off the priest's cross and threw it away winter died. here it is called live. hope they come up with something like that. well i mean, i know i have a lot of friends and people. i'm not that i spoke to them, but i know a lot of my friends about them. they just sit silent, but they, of course, in horror, you understand, they are not even parishioners in horror. you are just people. they are terrified

and for them it is, of course, such a litmus test, you can be completely unaware and , thanks to this censorship, not know many. the events that are taking place now in ukraine but the fact that war is declared there is no quotation marks for the aggressor. that this is a war against their own people and what kind of people, an absolutely peaceful religious people, this puts everything in its place. where is good, where is evil, you understand, and this, of course, is a shock. i'm only stupid sorry for such a word these days stupid people will come in time. military actions to open a war against his people, and

the actions of patriarch bartholomew, who opens his independent exarchate in lithuania , where priests have already moved a number of priests from ukraine and belarus, this is, well, not a betrayal of the students. you can interpret it this way. but unfortunately, this seal of betrayal has long been in the ecumenical patriarchy of the twenties, when the bolsheviks destroyed the russian orthodox church and instead came up with a renovationist church. the ecumenical patriarch, he then betrayed the russian church, but i want to tell you, and how it ended, where these are updated. you understand, uh, history shows us

that behind christ is the victory . the great victory, no matter what happens, no matter how christians are persecuted, no matter how some organizations connected with the church are destroyed, in the end christ will win a. they will stay with judas. however, those who betrayed christ who abandoned him. such is the historical and metaphysical, so to speak, struggle, which always ends in the defeat of those who who rises against christ will not be priests at all. it was harder to eat in the middle

ages, the icon of the last judgment was painted, the devil was depicted in the form of a serpent, and a crowd of people went there to fall to this snake. you look at these icons, who is the first to go, the first to go are the kings, the monks, the metropolitan priests. why and then just people people, to whom much is given from that much and the priest is asked the image of christ is given to a christian priest can you imagine what horror and what the consequences will be for this priest who conveys christ this what a nightmare and horror. so i i am very sorry and we must pray for these people

for the traitors. to happen to him is not what happened to judas when he hanged himself. and what happened to the apostle peter who repented and who became the first supreme apostle. although he denied christ three times, father vladimir thank you very much, and we chose the right speaker guests. on this feast of holy pascha , you spoke with great enthusiasm about the last days preceding the sundays of christ. thank you for being a guest in our studio. i am very glad that i appeared in this studios. well, we are now moving to jerusalem, this is what is happening at the church

of the holy sepulcher at these moments. do you hear the jubilation? you already hear, probably, dozens, and maybe hundreds of lit candles. this means that the main easter miracle has happened, the condescension of the holy fire , which in a few hours will be delivered to the main easter service in moscow at the cathedral of christ the savior, and its particle will be transferred to eleven more churches. well, a little later in 50 temples. all over the country the clergy will take away particles of blessed fire once again. uh, i will say that we receive these frames in real time from beyond jerusalem from the church of the holy sepulcher, we will return to this topic again.

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we continue to follow the development of events , so in jerusalem, in the church of the holy sepulcher , just a few minutes ago , the holy fire came down. this happens on the eve of orthodox easter. we are the frames that we now we will show we get in real

time. let's see what is currently happening in jerusalem rite meeting. the fire has been held annually since at least the 4th century in the church of the holy sepulcher there are also russian pilgrims and there are a lot of them, as in previous years. well, in russia , according to tradition, the holy fire will be delivered to the fund, andrew the first-called by a special flight for the night easter service to the cathedral of christ the savior, lamps with fire will also be transferred to 11 churches in the capital of the diocese of the russian orthodox church and a particle will be taken. fire in more than 50 cities of russia now, in addition to other events, data from the ministry of defense of the russian federation armed forces continue to conduct a special operation in the kupyat direction with air strikes and artillery fire from the western group.