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a weekly church program and we are on the russia 24 channel, where every week the latest news that happened in the country in world, we are discussing with representatives of the russian orthodox church. and today archpriest vladimir of vigelyansky , rector of the church of the martyr tatyana at moscow state university, is my guest father vladimir hello, christ is risen , he is risen indeed, i congratulate you, too, on this main holiday for all orthodox. and i would like to start a little. well, to give such a presentation you have the intuition of our interview. uh, do i understand correctly that you are the first priest whom the patriarch officially blessed to run his facebook page a few years ago. we are not the banned one, which means the organization. well then she wasn't. why do you think it was you who were awarded. here is such a right from the light, because bloggers are up to they wrote you, well, they officially blessed
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you. i was once at a meeting where all the priests. they say it's terrible. this is a new attack. uh, the social network is that the priest has nothing to do, that he is on the social network or uh. here. eh, it's a dump. he only discredits. uh, the church is what he does. uh, uh, with your posts on the social network. well, partly, it's true, well, on the other hand. we are the same about the phone, we can’t say, we can say if the phone is used by a scoundrel someone is one thing. a if it's a saint using the phone, then it's a completely different matter. in fact, the phone is neutral. what were your posts about were you were leading. now i don't drive now. and i first chose the address was as follows. that these are people who consider themselves
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orthodox believers, but do not go to church, and they are in the majority. and when we talk about naming different numbers from fifty to 70% of believers, we have, uh, what number would you call? anyway, 2/3 of them are people with no relation to the church, and so i chose this particular addressee , and using hmm the baggage that i had er, before i became a priest, and i worked in various publications, i was an editor in all sorts of very famous magazines, newspapers, publishing houses. if you know the addressee, then you need to immediately understand what language and therefore this language was not so loaded with any hmm
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theological terminology, or, uh, some kind of religious terminology, and i wanted to show that events in the world that, as it were, have no . relations with the church are very often conflicting, very difficult to understand you can always find the answer in him an angel and therefore the evangelization of people. it was my main task and therefore this book russian key key is the gospel for the last 10 years. and what has changed in the minds of students, has there become more of the so-called churched there among the believers. uh, let's say the guys there are not ashamed of the fact that they go to liturgies there or to the services of some community, they develop or, on the contrary, lose interest in
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going to church. i think no one else. over these 10 years, this one has stabilized percent. uh people are not as turbulent as it was in previous decades of people coming to church. at the same time, in spite of everything, the number of churches is increasing, only in moscow over the past 10 years it has grown by 300 churches. more understand, these are very serious numbers. well, let's be very direct. that's why, uh hmm, i can't say that something has changed in the character of those students , and i have a deceitful impression, because i have some students leaving and others coming, and it seems to me that this has always been the case and, uh, i
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i love our parishioners students and schoolchildren very much. uh. it is on them you can be equal to this amazing people. whom in this our nightmarish, senseless age and the time of a complete decline in the cultural and moral level, such pure people remain to bow father vladimir let's talk about the main holiday for all orthodox is more dangerous. with what feelings this year passed your post in your inner concentration, so i will say very abstractly the mission of the prophet, the son of god, you are a man on high. uh, lord he appeared 2.000 years ago this prediction of the prophecy of waiting was fulfilled. and hmm, this event is, well, of epochal and significance, and therefore nothing
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is subject to any change from those evil or good winds that see over our planet. of course, i am a citizen and all clergy and parishioners are citizens of our country. of course, we are involved in the events that are taking place in our country and in the world in general, of course, we are bothered by this and are important to us. e those events that we evaluate right or wrong e-e relations to him, but uh, but is it in second or tenth place? let's talk about the context of time.
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ah, let's say, let's try to look from a public point of view, what happened the events that preceded, and you see the execution of jesus, uh, well, there is an opinion that we agree with him or not, that in general, his executions were brought about democratically, then everything was done according to the procedure and laws of the time, so it happened today. tell us to introduce there students the modern language of life. and the son of man and the son of god jesus christ - these are the main pages. but at least about 10 or there seven chapters of their gospels are devoted to this event. everything there is very subtle and very interesting
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, the motivations described are political, even economic , psychological and religious metaphysical clashes and conflicts that have taken place this week. uh, preceding uh the resurrection of christ, these were three unrighteous judgments, with the jewish and roman judgments being the most. well, how to say advanced , the most developed and the most humane in the jewish court, for example, it was impossible without trial without uh witnesses who don't contradict each other. and so they called a huge number of false witnesses, but they did not repeat the same thing that
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the previous witnesses had sentenced or contradicted? well , for example, uh, they accused christ of saying that he would destroy the temple, and then after 3 days it would be restored, it wasn’t. he says destroy the temple and i will restore it in 3 days. he said the temple which in the soul is from not the real temple in jerusalem, but at least he didn't say, i will destroy the temple and this uh, false testimony was dedicated quite a lot of time. e in the jewish court, then there was also, e, the court of pontius pilate is also a very interesting thing that he said three times. he's not guilty, i don't see any fault with this man. well, what he said to himself there was that he was the son of god. well, nothing, well, the elders did, so they condemned
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christ in their religious court. uh, a violation, and they introduced pontius, pilate, that this is a political criminal, you understand, and then there was a plebiscite from those present who were saying who to send to death. and they sent him to his death in a democratic way. christ is the main question of many people who are only on the way to god here is the church from many. i heard this, how the lord god allowed and gave his beloved only son as a sacrifice to people, a metaphysical question, because he had to give his son. and this is reflected in the famous cup in the garden of gethsemane,
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when christ asks his father. he understands that he must make this sacrifice , a sacrifice for all mankind, the sins of people, so that they, of their own free will, choose good and what is good and what they choose this will be their main verdict. they will be together in eternity with christ or outside of christ. this very important point that the lord must rise again was written in the old testament in the prophecies of the prophets. and they still had doubts. what if it's the messiah what if he rises again. and they thought to ah
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stop the theft of the body, they'd put in two roman guards. to prevent this from happening, and many archaeologists admit that this stone was about two tons. that's when the wives came. the teacher he says is important resurrected. and there are guards standing next to you, you know, this is an amazing thing. he resurrected and indeed they saw only the sheets. he ascended there in 40 days. but this is a very serious event. she connects. the old testament the new testament is the aspirations
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of the people, otherwise here is the proof that this is the messiah, that a man came, the lord came in the form of a son. god's lord came to save all mankind. and in those what we call holy week in those days christ teaches his disciples that i have come to give you perfect joy. what it is? what is perfect joy? there are many mysteries, but we know for sure so that everyone understands what joy is completely. come to the easter service. you look at the faces of these people who are present at the easter service, and you will understand. what is perfect joy you will understand, what is victory over death you will understand? why do christians sing christ is risen from the dead
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by death, trampling death and living sparrows belly, that is, he gave life, let's get to the modern context. eh, how this fast and passion week passed with our neighbors in ukraine , well, in particular, in the monks, for example, of the pechersk lavra. so you said, uh, at the beginning of the interview, that the answer to any event can be found in the scriptures of the gospel, everything is a commentary on any modern news. and what about the gospel, which talks about what is happening now with the persecution of the economic church in ukraine. moreover, in such a period, the period of fasting before handing over, jew of christ, this is also a global event, such christ, uh met at the last supper with his students. and he did not stop preaching, he
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began to speak, and he began to talk about what all the followers of his christ would endure, that there would be persecution and that they would beat and kill for christ. so we can look at what is happening in these teachings, which were uttered exactly this week of passion week by christ. you look at us, they show us some pictures, like some demonic dances around the believers who go to the service. they kind of dance. and they are somehow humiliated verbally and so on. there were exactly
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they beat these dances, christ from behind and spoke. guess who hit you. and if you are such a great prophet, so you understand they scoffed, fought reconciled, one of the courts was. eh, he arranged for herod simply, well, such a buffoonery. now we would call e during the interrogation of christ in what is happening. u now in ukraine well, uh, but this is at best a pan, and at worst they beat the bishops, because they beat christ during the trials, they beat him like in a jewish court, which is strictly prohibited. it's just the judges beat christ you understand, this is some kind of well and then beaten with a whip.
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e at the roman court and well, what we are seeing now is absolutely the same repetition, but i want to say over the course of these two thousand years everything was probably even unbelieving people thought when a person broke off the priest’s cross, and who threw him winter died. here it is called live. i hope they turn out something like that. well i mean, i know i have a lot of friends and people. i'm not that i spoke to them, but i know a lot about them friends. they just sit silently, but they are, of course, horrified, you understand, they are horrified, not even parishioners. you are just people. they are terrified and for them it is, of course, such a litmus test, you can be in complete ignorance and hmm thanks to this censorship, not to know many.
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the events that are taking place now in ukraine but the fact that war is declared there is no quotation marks for the aggressor. that this is a war against their own people and what kind of people, an absolutely peaceful religious people, this puts everything in its place. where is good, where is evil, you understand and this, of course, shock. i'm only stupid . sorry for such a word these days stupid people will come in time. military actions to open a war against his people, and the actions of patriarch bartholomew, who opens his independent exarchate in lithuania , where priests have already moved a number of priests
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from ukraine and belarus, this is, well, not a betrayal of the students. you can interpret it this way. but unfortunately, this seal of betrayal has long been in the ecumenical patriarchy of the twenties, when the bolsheviks destroyed the russian orthodox church and instead of it they came up with a renovationist church. who was the first to support the renovationists? the ecumenical patriarch, he then betrayed the russian church, but i want to tell you, and how it ended, where these are updated. you understand, history shows us that behind christ is the victory. the great victory, no matter what happens, no matter how they persecute christians, no matter
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how they destroy some organizations associated with the church, in the end christ will win a. they will remain together with the milk, along with those who betrayed christ, who refused him. who abused him. what is the historical and metaphysical struggle, so to speak, which always ends with the defeat of those who rebel against christ who are not priests at all. ah, on whom will the sin be? it was harder to eat in the middle ages , the icon of the last judgment was painted, the devil
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was depicted in the form of a serpent, and a crowd of people went there to fall to this snake. you look at these icons, who is the first to go, the first to go are the kings, the monks, the metropolitan priests. why and then just people people. to whom much is given , much is asked of the priest dan image of christ to a christian priest. imagine what a horror and what consequences will be for this priest who hands over christ. what a nightmare and horror. therefore, i am very sorry and we must pray for these people for the traitors. to happen to him is not what happened to judas when he hanged himself. and what happened to the apostle peter who
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repented and who became the first supreme apostle. although he denied christ a-a right three times, we chose the guests of the speaker . this feast of holy easter is very interesting fascinated you told about the last days preceding the sundays of christ great to you. thank you for being a guest in our studio. i'm very glad, uh, that i showed up in this studio. i wanted to tickle the nerves of vices, they do not crawl out of the khitros slums with gilyarovsky , we single out not scary. now keep your pockets
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the interaction between russia and china in the military sphere strengthens the strategic relationship of the two countries , vladimir putin said at a meeting with a member of the state council, the minister of defense of china, in turn, shangfu noted after the appointment. he specifically chose russia as the first country for a foreign visit, in order to
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