one of the main political topics of the week is the visit of the new minister of defense of the people's republic of china, li shangfu, this is the first foreign visit of a chinese minister. we will discuss the results of this visit, as well as the situation in the whole region, with the president of the russian chinese analytical center, sergey sanakov. hello sergey feliksovich. uh, well, let's start, probably, with the most important thing. ah. how can you evaluate, uh, the results of the visit of the new minister of defense of the prc. how would you comment on it? and if i can start with an amendment, after all, not the first visit minister of defense of china to russia and not even the first minister. it's not the first visit. eh, lord comrade only infuf. e to russia as

a deputy minister. he traveled to russia so much and collaborated in the military-technical sphere, so much so that he got on the us sanctions lists , therefore, in his capacity as minister of defense , that's exactly right. the very first visit. after his appointment as minister of defense. and, of course, underlined here. eh, the solution is the same as e. first visit. after the election of the chairman from the earth with a state visit to russia, and i think that the visit defense minister. yes, and all the entire format that was presented. this is an absolutely clear signal of what the heads of state actually talked about during their meeting , especially, apparently, then the closed one, which we know only by the duration, lasted about no more than 4 hours, but and uh, today we already understand that uh, approximately, what was

the agreement about, that we will cooperate very firmly in the military sphere. like the rock as they say, uh, our leaders and actually repeated the defense ministers of russia and china our relationship. i. e, accordingly, we intend to show all the necessary joint power in order to demonstrate to the world we intend to protect each other's sovereign interests and resist the aggressor if there are encroachments. e with aggression in our direction, but with reflexes. so you remembered, in fact, some part of the biography. uh, comrade, only a shanfu and he is a very interesting person, and he really earned himself us sanctions a very long time ago precisely because he was actively establishing cooperation with our country and especially the military-space sphere. this is his open data of his biography, and he

directly supervised. uh, kanner military space force. he, uh, was directly involved in the development. the air defense systems of the people 's republic of china and so on have been very actively cooperating with our country there are such, but the data is open data that we can discuss unconditionally and closed parts. we don't discuss it. but we can only say that we have been very active and have been cooperating for a long time with the chinese people's republics, which greatly irritates the americans, and they are extremely concerned about this, as they say, in fact, it seems to me that they are already frightened, because there were a lot of comments in the west about the results, the visit, and so on. and what do you think? still, a lot of us have been warned. i mean the chinese, first of all, that if china supplies weapons to russia, then it will be very bad for china and so on. what do you think, after this visit, they will remake e-cooperation to a new level.

well, of course, a visit to our country and negotiations with our president, that is , there will be a qualitative leap in our military cooperation, or it will still be evolutionary. we're pretty fast, uh, developing our strategic partnership at an evolutionary pace. uh, and as we have seen for 30 years, i emphasize that this is much more than some experts note about some kind of turn to the east. uh, there is the fourteenth year, uh, the twenty-second year of nothing like that, we have been developing such a partnership quite dynamically for decades, but, of course, the last 10 years. especially since china has become unified as chairman, we are really building up much more seriously much faster. as for the meeting, for example, last year, when a joint declaration was signed in beijing

on february 4, and already this year. uh, all the signals from china are that our nu comprehensive partnerships are strategists. this interaction also enters the new epoch and this new epoch. we are now revealing this at all levels, both business ties and public people's diplomacy military-technical cooperation technology cooperation tourism. uh, culture, across the board. we are now really making a qualitative leap and demonstrating to the world what kind of relationship we should be in the 21st century between responsible powers, yes, and also neighbors with such a huge e, 4,500 km long border, and most importantly, that we are cooperating e in order to show the world how to build

peacekeeping today. how should we deal with real democracy and set up a multipolar world and make it safer, and unlike the threats that we hear all the time from the west and the constant provocations that also force us, of course, to coordinate our efforts in the military-technical sphere as much as possible, we would not, of course, want us to in general, uh, we used our military might, but if necessary, we will put any aggressor in his place, if we have to do this, as far as our power is concerned. this week there was also a big event of these ocean-going fleets, and they were checking for combat readiness. and this is also some kind of only military uh events. this is a matter of demonstrating our capabilities in this region, and of course, but a signal on the other side of the ocean

that we can . decide because if you go to the situation in the region, it remains extremely tense, it is obvious that japan is being armed, that it is canceling its this, and the provision in the constitution from no, which says that the japanese army can only be self-defense forces, there and so on . we obviously we see the statement just the other day that the head of south korea made, which is ready to rush into all serious supplies, and south korea is a good industrial country. they have good technology. they produce a lot of weapons that already exist in ukraine. in short, uh, one gets the feeling that this is the hysteria that e cannot be said differently, uh, the americans are breeding around taiwan, uh, it turns out. here is such a clot, but problems. do you think the issue of this burden

of problems will be how quickly it will deteriorate, there will be a situation. well you correctly noted that the worsening of the situation comes from the united states of america and , uh, with the sleeve of its satellites. yes, they didn't come up with anything new. look, they repeat exactly everything that they have been doing for decades, and especially now in europe they are doing exactly the same thing with the hands of their vassal states, they are escalating the situation, but uh, it’s absolutely correct that the demonstration of our forces in the pacific fleet, which was raised as a sudden check by the supreme commander russia and at the same time, as we saw this picture, in fact, here comes uh, not only the teachings of the russian federation, but also on the liberation army of china, and at the same time , the supreme commander of russia meets with the two ministers of defense of russia

and china, apparently, they ask how clear coordination is going on. i hope they heard the signal from across the ocean and realized that it’s not worth it, probably, after all, it’s not worth escalating it, bringing the world to the brink of a third world war, because we are definitely not going to lose. and, probably, it is better to sit down at the negotiating table. i hope these signals were heard, and sergey feldsovich, nevertheless. uh, nadezhda certainly dies last, but judging by the actions of the americans in europe in ukraine, uh, with some kind of reason with logic, there are problems, and therefore it is probably not necessary to exclude that the provocation around taiwan will reach some new level, because just recently there were again statements that there would be another batch of anti-ship missiles delivered to taiwan there, in my opinion, 400 pieces. and this is serious, in general,

a certain military power, that is, the americans supply as they think, as they are. pour into the one china weapons do not ask the central authorities of the people's republic of china is it necessary? it looks somehow strange, that is , well, to put it mildly. do you think that the americans will continue the policy that they have now? as for the americans, they will definitely continue this policy. we already see that this is agony, which is not immediately correlated in any way, so now we can already understand that this mind will not prevail, but we are not playing on this field. we are not going to argue with them , our task is a little different and turn, what exactly at this time, this spring of 23 , which i even called in my article the spring of mankind.

china’s peacekeeping diplomacy is just raising its head very seriously, this and their peacekeeping between saudi arabia and iran between the palestinians and israel around afghanistan , finally, the plans for resolving the ukrainian crisis, which china puts forward, have already begun to discuss it already, and the west is even trying to do something there something in this plan to do the meaning of this is that the whole world to see on whose side is the truth of the story? yes, or as this chairman says, that we are on the right side of history, and this is important today, because the world is very fast, including due to the expansion of organizations such as the brix sco, the world is rapidly moving precisely in this direction and when it will be clear that the minority cannot provoke you to a big war. for some reason, i’m still sure, i not only hope, but i’m sure that

we won’t reach the war in the end, because it’s just elementary, having calculated the alignment and when it becomes clear what is wrong, what is against the marginals, as they are trying to portray. you know, there is. uh, russia , north korea, iran, unfortunately, china is also among them. well, nothing like the majority in the world, just going this way already. against the hegemony of the united states and it is enough only for the americans to do a simple thing that we are the whole world , says the yankees are deaf and an atheist to their continent, as finally the world will breathe calmly and there will not even be any inclinations at all in order to fight everyone i want to develop peacefully. there are all the possibilities for this and even resources , as a result, there will be enough for everyone. there is no need to pretend that there is such a struggle for resources. and that you need to destroy another 7 billion just to leave the golden billion, these fairy tales are no longer interesting to anyone in the world. nevertheless

, they are still advancing and part of the world's population actively believes in them. and most importantly, that he believes so much that he is ready to die for these fairy tales. how it happens in ukraine is a fact, and if you look, don't you disagree, do not agree. no, i don’t agree, because the population of these countries is already raising its head, unfortunately, we are in an information vacuum created by the western media and they , of course, impose their agenda on us, but the people in these countries already look at what is happening in europe they are already starting to wake up and says, wait. and here we are. why do we have to tighten the ice. and why do we have to wash ourselves with cold water, what is happening in general, that suddenly europe began to get so these western countries will also be just against the united states, too, by the way, this is happening , this process will go so fast that they will not even

have time to accept ukraine. so that's what we are talking about. very interesting. a conversation began to take shape between us, but, unfortunately, it ended in air time, and if you have the opportunity, i will be happy to. then i would continue it. ah, sergey feliktovich, thank you very much. i don't quite agree with viktor on some things, but nevertheless an interesting conversation. and thanks a lot. i recall my conversation with the president russian chinese think tank sergei this week, foreign minister sergei lavrov completed a large tour of latin america, many states continue to talk in the region take a balanced position on the ukrainian crisis and generally try to distance themselves from the western sanctions policy against our country. how this happens in the example of venezuela, today we talked with the russian ambassador to venezuela, sergey melek bagdasarov. sergei mikhailovich i greet you. thanks for taking the time. well, the most important

the first question is the end of the tour. e our minister of foreign affairs. e, sergey lavrova sergey viktorovich i understand that i have already completed this visit, he had many conversations in different countries of latin america . and, of course, in venezuela, here is how the results can be summed up. what were the most important topics discussed? of course, the visit was productive and it couldn’t have been otherwise. but since i am responsible only for the venezuelan segments of this program, i can say that we have fulfilled and exceeded the targets in venezuela. a meeting with the president took place. maduro to the palaces of miroflora. a meeting was held with the second person of the state executive decentral. delta rodriguez held fruitful rich talks with the minister of foreign affairs of venezuela, ivan hill, and contacts with the chairman took place on the sidelines of this visit. government of saint center grenaline wright boom gonzalez and minister of foreign affairs. e

bolivian jersey. this is already after the completion of the main program, but i will tell you about the venetian part. so the main directions were discussed in the traditional way. it's bilateral relations are the international agenda , its most topical topic and, of course, the regional agenda in terms of bilateral relations. well, lately we have, which are the traditional direction. such as energy production of hydrocarbons for technical cooperation, and such, uh, which uh , well, just such areas that have received in recent years, especially impulses - this is primarily our cooperation in the field of healthcare caused. it was so we all know and a pandemic. well, and for a number of others directions are also here in medicine. we cooperate very closely, and we have been delivering for the last few years. uh, don't quarrel over

russian-made insulin. and now they are getting better. the production line is here in tarakas jointly by our company of our company geropharm and the local institute from promed-bio. uh, there is supplied swordsmen, influenza vaccines in the field of medicine. eh, in recent years there has been such a thing, i would say. well, if not a breakthrough, then a very high dynamics, as well as in the field of space. we 2 years ago signed with one of the regulations an agreement on cooperation in the field of development. uh, outer space is not so cooperation and the field of outer space and interaction is precisely the purpose, a contract was signed to host the glonass ground station e, veins have already been invited. e in our joint chinese russian chinese initiative lunar program. well, and a number of others . such are the projects that

flow down all this, plus the cooperation with the medical airline of cognac is developing well, which continues, in spite of what sanctions to carry out flights direct regular flights to russia this company cooperates with a number of russian companies that provide them, including software equipment e, is underway. uh, such a day-to-day hard work on a closer linkage of our financial systems. eh, for the purposes. uh, protection from the pressure that is being exerted on our economy by the united states next to the western country, as well as those countries that have chosen their path in the orbit in the orbit of these unfriendly to us today government. and i understand that the ladies are closely interacting. e with venezuela and yet. and venezuela, uh, is trying to build

a relationship with america, i mean. and the united states and this cooperation is venezuela and chevron. this is the first batch that has been shipped. and in general, how do you think, how the venezuelan authorities will plan, and this is interaction with the united states. how serious is this and what are the prospects? you know, the venezuelans have never refused to cooperate with the united states with any other country, this is peace, on the other hand, the problem lies in the fact that american policy is awkwardly colonial, in essence it hinders this cooperation, we all know that the americans have long assumed the role of the world policeman of the justice of the peace, the justice of the peace and, in general , any of their function, they extrapolate

our world on the spot to the entire global economic political international space, therefore, to speak of the lifting of a sanction, but it is difficult to call that what was done in chevron relation. this is an american company. just americans of their company. a very limited amount was allowed to return. it was worth extracting solely for the purposes of this company without paying profits without paying taxes. without any kind of payments, of course, it is not suitable for such a format. well , why give away for free, in fact , for free, your e, minerals, minerals to the side, so cooperation - this is it, how did it start? or rather, how it resumed so fast enough and, uh, curled up again. maybe there will be some other relaxations for the time being, after that, except for those deliveries

that were some kind of new ones, there is no evidence. well, a few words literally our cooperation in this area. as i understand it , rosneft is successfully developing there , our joint ventures have been actively participating for more than 10 years. uh, here on venezuelan earth we extract oil together with the venezuelans. uh, we provide services in the north. uh, as for the production itself, well, the venezuelan is naturally interested in increasing volumes increasing exports, because with all the efforts of the maduro government to diversify the national economy , develop agriculture. and here there are special successes. and in cooperation between our countries, there are also strokes that bought our grain. and now more and more people are trying to develop supplies to our market. e

its products of tropical fruits, coffee. chocolate cocoa, here. uh, laziness itself has already cost almost 80% under the conditions of sanctions to self-sufficiency in food, so here. everything is interconnected, as far as not. and of course, nonetheless. this remains the main main income item, without it, nowhere. without this, there is no import, so they are, uh, very interested and our time pans, of course, meet their questions, and sergey mikhailovich well, to the social and political life of venezuela, i understand that the country is actively preparing to celebrate 9 may and there are a number of activities, as there will be a waltz, a victory and so on. please tell me a few words about this venezuela last year. for the first time in history, we held the immortal regiment, it was over 350 people participated, and

there are few of our compatriots here. basically, our main asset is, first of all, the paths of soviet russian universities that are reaching out to us. we are also actively cooperating with them organizations, too. of course, now it goes with the most. rhythmic pace of preparation, and not only in caracas. yesterday they sent us a video from the barkisimet. this is a city in the central west, let's say venezuela, uh, there are our compatriots there, but there are not many of them. but they involve in everything, these are the venezuelans with whom they live next to, with with whom they work, with whom they study together , wonderful videos, such as, uh, such elegant couples, but with st. george ribbons for caps, uh, with asterisks they dance the oasis of victory, as for other events, of course. it will be a candle of memory, we will once again plant a garden of memory. this will be the third year in a row that such an action will be held. i hope

immortal sex. uh, we will determine the format of mine a little later, but from the venezuelan side, what is most important, we meet the most lively. here they are, uh, deeply accept this format immortal regiment, because, even despite venesla, she herself did not participate in the clash of hostilities. yes, they are still, uh, studying our history with great interest and trying to make some kind of connection here, really. here, uh, there were some elements of the battle, then at one time. uh, a fascist submarine sank a medical transport ship that was going to the united states, uh, to help, so to speak, to support. it's interesting that they are drawn to us and are drawn to russian culture, to our past heroic and present too, well, this great. and it is very pleasing, indeed. they do not forget our history,

because we know that those who have forgotten history, but then pay very dearly for it. well, the games of alba, they will start today on the twenty- first of april, too, just a few words. what is it about? why is it important? well, first of all, this is important, because russia was invited to these games by alba - these are the nimi countries that are part of our four most traditional large partners, these are the nicaragua club, venezuela and bali, as well as a number of small cinnamon states in general difficulty is 10 countries, and they are holding such games for the fifth time. this is purely an interstate initiative within the framework of this association. eh, over here. arrived yesterday. yesterday, the day before yesterday, numerous sports delegations arrived and our delegation arrived yesterday. she was met with a kalinka at the airport. we sent all videos very warm meetings each, yes, yes, oleg vasilievich motytsin. it

was such a warm enough meeting , the governor of the state of laguayer arrived at the airports, where the main competitions and the minister of sports of venezuela mervengonada the deputy minister of foreign affairs was franklin ramirez. well, i have such a very friendly kind atmosphere there. as for the games themselves, well, our table tennis, boxing and weightlifting teams have arrived , there are a number of disciplines with athletes. we've already talked. well, today , as expected, with the participation of the head of state , the opening of these games will be held in general. uh, this regional segment. it is very important to us the day before, when we opened the lining of the flag-raising ceremony and sex, the gradual owners emphasized that for them it is a pride to have the opportunity not only to invite the russian team. well , to raise the russian contribution to these elections and

fulfill the russian day, which we all listened to with the big ones while at these. and all the time mikhailovich is great to you. thank you. i think that we will continue to actively cooperate with our countries, and certainly. this is what you told about the victory waltz - it's great that people remember and treat it so correctly. and, of course, sports games and sports that are designed to unite people, not divide them. like this now trying could do other organizations. thank you very much sergey mikhailovich all the best. thank you after a short advertisement, our broadcast will continue to broadcast the program on duty. and i, alexander carriages, say goodbye to you. all the best.

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