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you need someone who is the fastest, when we don’t want carrots anymore, the scooter will overtake desire, when not now, the scooter will save you from being late, when you need the fastest scooter, it’s a fact, and delivery is always free. hello in the studio of ekaterina grachev this is a church program and we are on the russia 24 channel, where every week we discuss the latest news that has happened in russia and in the world. today my guest is rector of the russian
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orthodox university, advisor to the chairman of the state duma alexander shchipkov alexander vladimirovich hello , glad to see you in the studio . let's go here. with what topic shall we start with lithuania , the patriarch in bartholomew is going to create an exarchate there, and even some orthodox priests from lithuania and belarus are moving there . the first question. and why at all? eh? does he need it? what do you think? well, this is actually a very interesting situation, because there patriarch bartholomew is one of the tools in the hands of such big american and geopolitical games. the creation of a small exarchate in lithuania actually touched, and for such a large strategic perspective, as it imagines, bartholomew and the vakurators. the fact is that and this exarchate, which
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they are planning, they call the exarchate of both the baltic and belarusian and russian and ukrainian. that is, they want this little structure like this. well, in general , to be honest, it’s fake, but to arrange it in such a way as if its jurisdiction extends to the entire territory of the russian federation, here they are, such a plan, and these guys usually play for the long haul, they expect there to be 15-20-30 years ahead. they understand that now this, well, will not work in any way, but they are estimating it to us, uh, such a, uh, distant perspective, that is, they want to pretend that the moscow patriarchate or legitimé almost no longer exists. but the ecumenical patriarchate is opening a new exar and its jurisdictional possibilities will extend to the whole of belarus, ukraine and russia, that is, to the entire
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canonical territory of the russian orthodox church, a little bit and, of course, there is. but as you correctly noted, and some of the lighting that is already starting to flow, and in e. there , in this exarchate, the names of priests are called there, uh, two or three from belarus, and this is a very interesting moment. deal in is, that and these priests, and according to rules. uh, church according to the rules of the so-called russian, but the cathedral, and this in the seventh century was such a presidency of emperor justinian, and a council was held, at which very clear rules were prescribed when lighting could go and when cheese curds could not go to the church. so, there there is such a seventeenth rule, which says that in order for a priest to be able to move from one church to another, he must have a so-called vacation letter from his bishop, ruling these guys
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who have now uh fled there, naturally there are no vacation letters in belarus from er, exarch. e belarusian, but did not receive. it is further written at the end of this canon of the seventeenth that if a priest crosses arbitrarily, he ejaculates himself, that is, in fact. i think that a decision on these will be made soon. uh, priests, deprive. they themselves will cease to be a priest. and then, of course, they will still remain in this to the zarhata, they will perform divine services, but not legitimately, because they will no longer baptize everyone as a priest. it will not be baptism . everything is as if there will be a funeral service for them . the liturgy will be. uh, already liturgies, and so on. the church has very strict rules that have existed for millennia and er. it is strange that the greeks, but in particular the patriarchs catch. and well, so this is not paid at all to this
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attention. that is, they seem to demonstrate to the entire orthodox world their non-canonical, absolutely political consciousness. well, look, when hmm the dog was created in ukraine and with the light hand of constantinople and western partners, and hmm in moscow they also underestimated, and the threat that would follow this also seemed to be some kind of small group of raskolnikov who decided nothing will not be. and now we see what we see, but it happens. in fact, a kiss does not solve anything this exarchate. uh, being created now in lithuania we are somewhat we underestimate the risks of this, you understand, the fact is that we are talking about different things, and kiss this newly created zarhat, and on the territory of lithuania these are political entities, and not religious, not church and dog, but from a church canonical point of view. this is a very small organization, and
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most of the uh, the population of ukraine are adherents of the canonical church. even if these people do not fully understand. here, how this canonicity is arranged, how it works, they didn’t read the rules of the trulsky cathedral or some other e, church documents. they feel this skin and feelings, and people feel where the true church of eugene is. no, why the fate of the dog is a foregone conclusion. this is a very small structure that will be poured into the asian church. this is my prediction just as an expert. after a certain number of years, this dog will no longer be called the orthodox church there. these people will pour them into ana the hellish church there will be dear to them, and it is now already registered. it's just that they don't know it yet, and their fate is already sealed there in washington a long time ago, and the church of the ukrainian orthodox church will not go anywhere, it will still remain, and it will still be reborn, reborn in the sense that it will quietly exist, since the church should exist in normal
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peaceful peaceful conditions. that's all. there is another moment. uh, many uh, the priests are pretty famous names. uh, let's say the ukrainians who were in our church and then went over to the dog or somewhere else, or these belarusians. these people were treated kindly in moscow, these are very famous names. i'm just not going to promote them now, call them these people who came to us invited them, they spoke at our conference. we all of them personally know them here is the verdict, damn it. it is not clear why i always said, why should we e snuggle, but caress, but a frank traitor. well, can't you see. these nationalists have their own fifth column. understanding that there is, of course, there is a fifth column, as elsewhere, unfortunately, these guys who have now defected. eh, in this so -called zaharhat. and i think that soon will be deprived of the sacred santa well raise their obygraund raise their, so to speak,
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political biography. this is a belarusian nazi. these are belarusian nationalists. therefore , their motivation is absolutely political, their motivation is nationalistic, and they are not at all religious, therefore, when they are deprived of themselves, well, absolutely right. e will be absolutely correct decision we mentioned, er, patriarch bartholomew of constantinople. and let's talk about turkey, and hmm, your opinion is interesting. and what will happen to the presidential elections in turkey what are erdogan's chances? and what? uh, which candidate is better for erdogan is not the easiest partner for us, as shown by the last decade, not the most stable, or the one who comes for him, do you think it is very interesting for whom the patriarch, e-e bartholomew, will vote, after all , he is a citizen of turkey so i think that 99%,
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e 9900, that he will not vote for erdogan, but will vote for the current protege of the united states, he has a very intricate surname. i'm afraid to take it out now. his name is kemal, like atatürk's kemal, and he leads the party, just like a follower of otterk. i mean, it's a party. such a, well, democratic sense, but it was set up for the secularization of turkey and in recent years. she began to lose her positions and erdogan and so on powerfully pushed him into the basis of his political rhetoric and practice, so to speak. i put islam a and moved these kemalists, and the current kemal, and who are also in order. he is 74 years old. he relies very powerfully on american support. the fact is that we don’t really imagine ourselves here, but the real situation in turkey and erdogan is such a powerful guy, such a powerful political figure, but the tour is a country that is very, very,
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very dependent on the united states of america and the task for erdogan has always been to break out. why does he look like admiration for putin, but putin has escaped from american dependence, which arose in the nineties, and erdogan has not yet escaped, therefore, in the sixteenth year of erdogan a little bit, and with the help of orange coups, putin did not throw him off putin helped. and now they would they, i mean , the americans will play. e during the election campaign. here are the elections on may 14, that's not far off, and the question. and what should erdogan do for us, of course, it was beneficial for erdogan to remain, and not some pro-american person come who, well, right there, uh, will change the policy towards russia by 180 °. it seems to me that erdogan's mistake is that he does not look at his bread, and there is a very interesting one, and the person who withdrew his candidacy will not run, but, in my opinion, the name of
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dagha has been rescheduled. this, and he has a very small party called motherland, and it is absolutely. anti-american his slogans exit from nato and he recognized crimea but his party recognized crimea as uh belonging to russia he supports putin uh in the current geopolitical situation. he is a weak figure, because to me the party is small but the mass of the people who share in turkey who share his views. after all, you know that 70% of the turks are sure that the earthquake is some kind of unnatural geomagnetic phenomena 70%, uh, the turks are sure that this is an artificial earthquake created by washington one way or another. i won't judge, but it's important public opinion. and if now erdogan aloud, supported, this, yes, his stupid idea, would somehow unite with his leftists, at least pure static
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considerations. he would have won this election at once, because now the shorts rating is going on, and who will win erdogan or washington what is unknown, and they are interested in washington what does this mean for russia, but for russia it means that we are losing turkey , we are losing as a partner it’s more profitable for us strategically, of course, but erdogan remained to our domestic affairs russia is now a year teacher and mentor, you recently published an article where you propose to introduce an oath for teachers, for what and what should the texts of this oath of russian teachers contain, see, and there are, uh, several categories of professions that military personnel take the oath. the oath of the priest and e, the oath of the evracha the hippocratic oath is the three professions
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in which the ethical one is very strong, making up these three professions, on which the life of the people depends, and its protection, and spiritual moral health and its physical health, and we do not we are surprised that if a person who graduated from a medical institute refuses to accept this oath, he signs from there. hippocrates will not give him a diploma in the same way as a military school diploma there, or you will not be able to become a priest. a teacher is also a profession that belongs to such an ethical category is very important, because if a doctor is engaged, but a person of today. that teacher is engaged in a man of tomorrow, he brings up a big citizen from a small person. and so it seems to me that if we compiled a text , it is clear that it does not yet exist to compose the text of the teacher's oath, then this would increase self-esteem, firstly, of the teacher himself, and secondly, this
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would raise the prestige of the profession and respect. eh, to a teacher and a mentor and a teacher, what we all talk about, but do not take any practical steps, except for there is an increase in wages and something else, and then we would raise the profession of a teacher and put it in a row. here are the most important professions of the defenders of the priest, the doctor and the teacher. it seems to me that the oath, and this was helped a lot, well, we still talk about duties anyway. thus , teachers who are already hung with a lot of duties. uh, cutting and talking about their rights. it seems to me that in modern russia there is a social package for a serviceman and a social package. now calls sounded much better than the teacher's social package. there is a rise in salaries to the level of a few deputies to the state duma. after all, i would generally translate. uh, a teacher in vot uh, in the rank
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of civil servants, this ministry is exactly the same as a priestly medical office. uh, military - this service is a service to the people. well maybe before asking them to take an oath they need to offer something. first we must change attitudes. e to the teacher, and to lead this oath and as a result. eh, everyone else will have what is called social packages unconditionally and absolutely agree, of course, teachers need to be paid, men need to be returned to school. a man should serve in the school, and now the men have disappeared. no, that is, the rector of the russian orthodox university, and so mostly women in russia obviously now began the search for national ideologies, you are very active. well , for those viewers who do not know defended their doctoral thesis topic you had a political culture and ideology. tell me, please, in what direction
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does modern russia need to look for this very national ideology? but you remembered my doctoral dissertation. you know that even 10 years ago there were 20 dissertation councils in the country. where was this topic, political culture and ideology, they were cut out one by one. i don't know now or no, in general, or one advice here, that is, practically now in russia in fact. it is not on purpose that in fact there is a ban on writing scientific papers, both ideologies, because there is nowhere to defend them, there are no dissertation councils where to defend a candidate's doctoral but, and we are all now talking about ideology. and it seems to me that the mistake of my many colleagues is that we are all looking for an ideology and trying to come up with one ; it is impossible to come up with an ideology there in silence, in offices or in the kitchen over a cup of tea. it arises in the thickness, the people formulate it
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politicians formulate it those politicians who feel that they are in the thick of the people, because the politician who feels it is he of a stable policy, and the one who relies on the language, like the people, is stable, and therefore we must carefully look at what to do and putin says in fact, the ideology has already been formulated. it is necessary to look at his texts of his statements, those documents that he signs, for example, national security strategies. yes, the whole ideology is written in it. not only is it already spelled out, we live within this ideology. she already has nothing to look for. and this is an ideology. i would formulate it, i would call it social traditionalism, because on the one hand, in recent years we have been talking about traditional values, but about the preservation of history. we oppose falsification, history and so on. that is, we are talking about traditional values, and traditions, as a method of transferring the experience of a generation to a generation of social, religious, political, cultural, scientific, anyone. and this, by the way,
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was and is being done a lot by the holy patriarch, because he was the first to become a gorythm traditional values, generally came up with this wording. what does the president do, and for the last 15 years, the social program. he emphasis is called protection strengthens the army and the social sphere. this means that what is called the social package is moving to the side - it is much wider right away, as we are building a social state according to the constitution, it exists, but in fact it is not there yet. putin builds it and it turns out, but a social idea. these are, as it were , left-wing ideas, while traditional ideas, as it were , right-wing ideas are conservative and suddenly find out that in russia they are so easily combined and go hand stump so i say it's the ideology it is. well, you can call it social traditionalism alexander vladimirovich let's talk about such a phenomenon as eh? new phenomena for modern russia as denunciations, well, not so new, i'll tell you. here i will read to you the post of the writer alexander tsypkin. and we are still surprised at the denunciation of
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the actors here , an employee of the power structure, yuri yuryevich evin, wrote a denunciation to a military doctor. the legend of the patriotic tactical medicine, thanks to his courses and manuals , recommendations and lectures, lives were saved thousands of russian soldiers and civilians. he went through syria first with him at the front. now he is a field doctor, surgeon, and so on, and he has been participating in the hostilities in the donbass since 2014. and why was there a denunciation, and at one of the lectures on tactical medicine for the employees of the russian guard, she was held in yuzhno-sakhalinsk, he told the police how to provide medical assistance to himself as a comrade-in-arms. what are the problems with provision in the army and so on. and here, uh , means an official of the ministry of internal affairs for the south sakha. linsku thought that e in this means lectures he discredits the army, and it was written that this doctor was a denunciation. the writer asks a reasonable
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question. and should there be any punishment for pseudo-denunciations, abuse of the right-to-don? i do not know how our legislation works in this part. it's basically, uh, perjury. uh, of course, uh, should somehow be punished and condemned. and if these are some false denunciations that slander a person, of course, this should be somehow punished, but the fact is that in general the phenomenon of denunciation. uh, very interesting, for example, but i collect denunciations about myself, but very many people who go after me and do not know that copies of the denunciations that they write about me are lying. in my house. here, a rather interesting activity is to collect denunciation. i have been collecting them for many years, but the point is what is the nature of the denunciation, what is behind this denunciation. this envy is such a vice and such a sin, which is called
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envy envy one of the most terrible feelings that kill people, and resentment resentment kills people envy kills envy corrodes people and you need to learn how to fight it. here if you you feel, you have some kind of element of envy arises. you just need to be able to get out of this state, it is best to consult with an experienced confessor. how to get out of this state and there is another side to this people write denunciations, and more often anonymous ones, or if they are anonymous, then they think that it will always be. uh, it means covered, it means there is some kind of secret and darkness , and they forget that everything secret becomes obvious , such an impression that these people have never read the gospel, no matter how much we want to hide something. maybe not even try it anyway, everything becomes known one way or another now a little earlier a little later,
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so when you do something that's not good and you try to do it. it's secretive. you must immediately remember the gospel, but it will still be. known. it might be better not to do so. maybe it's better not to write these denunciations. and then i won't have to collect them from companies. they will name a name where the system of denunciations of employees is set to such a level that they slip anonymous denunciations on someone against each other under the door of the manager. well, probably, if you the head did not want to receive these denunciations, but probably he would have stopped, he provokes the fact that such denunciations are now being written, or maybe at the state level. eh, you need to do something in order to stop the flow of e not meaningful danos, but this leader also did not read the gospel, they say that if you seduce the small forces, then in general, the punishment will be quite severe. not only
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was he silent. yes, you see, the sin was silent. and you provoke. you persuade a person to write denunciations or you persuade him to go drink vodka, yes, knowing that a person is weak, uh, for alcohol. yes, you seduce him or in some other situations, it will affect you yourself, because you seduce your subordinates and lead them into sin. yes , what responsibility will you have and how will you answer at the last judgment? i look at such people, and i think. well, that's what they are not afraid of anything in other words. you are a denunciation, do not approve, in any form, in any form, let's complete ukraine but this is positive. well, almost yes, but a caret, heavenly er, here is a video that went viral when a person is thrown and the cross is on the ground. this is one of the former leaders of the local administration there, a who participated.
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here in these provocations against means the priests of the canonical church. he threw the winter, the cross, and right now you can say what is called live. ah, gone to the next world. he became ill, had a heart attack, what is this mysticism, what is this poor health? well, i certainly won't judge. uh, the cause of his death. uh, with such a medical point of view, but you know such stories. eh, quite a lot of people told me back in the seventies, and those who remembered the twenties and thirties of the persecution that we had in russia and quite a few such cases when people suddenly climbed, here are the crosses from the domes. uh, they threw off, descended to the ground and died or passed for a very short short time. and suddenly they died in some minor circumstances. eh, god's kara she is . yes, god punished this man. well, we don't know that. although
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apparently, such is, as it were, such a sign visible. uh, for us, this is a warning, but it seems to me that the warning is clear here, that all of russia saw this, all of ukraine saw this video. yes, he tore off the cross and tore it out of the hands of the priest and threw it on the ground. well, if it's scary to imagine, and in what he was. eh, state that he did it? but this is, but you can see, as an example for the whole of ukraine, what to do? now ukraine is destroying the lavra. she takes this cross and throws it on the ground, tramples on it with her feet, but she can't. this will end happily for the state for the country. you can't do this. we need to stop in time. and this is the example the lord showed. yes, that's how it happened to this unfortunate man, yes, who was in total eclipse, apparently, he was. uh, committing such a monstrous sacrilege, and
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then the whole country, led by its leadership, destroys the lavra. it seems to me that this is such an example that you need to stop and understand somewhere. there is politics here. there is military uh, some action here. yes, this post is still here, the post ended with a passionate walk or something else? well, end of post, i don't i remember when it was, but at the very end to put this incident happened here, so uh, i think this is a warning for the whole of ukraine and a reminder to all of us and russians too. we are not saints either . we must remember in our actions, and in our words, our speeches, in our actions, too. but how to remember the edge. yes, that's what they called, but the fear of god. yes, you don't know what it's like to be afraid of god. here, there is no fear to walk here, fear. god, this is the fear of committing, and sacred from the fear of breaking. in the west, yes. and
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without a niche, any sin, but the hoolana of the spirit the saint will not be forgiven. this is a blasphemy against the holy spirit you take, the cross on which christ was crucified you throw it on the ground. in what state should this person be in order to do such a thing. thank you very much alexander vladimirovich for this interview for coming to our studio, goodbye.
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two women died, another was injured during
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the shelling of makiivka , representatives of the dpr reported this in the city, they were hit from multiple launch rocket systems. in total , five missiles were fired under fire , vladimirovka and zaitseva also turned out to be under fire, details from our special growth of stanislav vasilchenko the armed formation of ukraine continues merciless shelling of the pre-frontal areas of the donetsk people's republic , heavy artillery of the multiple launch rocket system is entering. just a few hours ago, a blow was struck at the lower krymka adjacent to makiivka, as a result of shelling , one woman was injured, two were killed. it happened right here at the gates of one of the private houses. this is the place where that fatal projectile hit. on this spot. there was a deep hole left, we managed to get a video where captured the moment

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