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we return to the news review, russian troops destroyed the fsu ammunition depot in the alexander kalinin direction, also artillerymen, but if the attack on the positions of the armed forces, in the avdiivka area, representatives of the southern group of forces spoke about this. in the lisichansk operational direction in the area of the settlement of belogorovka, the artillery of the southern grouping of forces during the counter-battery fight destroyed a 120-mm mortar and one vehicle of alexander kalinovsky operational direction by the artillery unit of the southern grouping,
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in the area of \u200b\u200bthe settlement outlined a fire raid on the point of temporary deployment, 110 separate mechanized brigade. as a result, an ammunition depot was destroyed and up to 10 military personnel of the ukrainian army were also hit by artillery crews of the southern group of forces on the accumulation of weapons of military equipment of the first battalion, the 110th enemy brigade in the area of the zaporizhzhya npp may be in the flood zone, adviser to the general director of the rosner concern, ganta, marinade korcha said about the high water level in kakhovka reservoir, if the dams fail, it will sink several settlements, including energodar and now rinat korchan is in direct contact with the studio rinat ivanovich hello, including, as our correspondent olga kurla reports. its water level is really approaching the critical level, we are talking about the threat of a dam break. could you explain first. and what kind of dam are we talking about. eh, what could be the consequences? what is the situation some minute in the city of kamenka dneprovskaya hmm this
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is a city in close proximity to energodar and the water level really approached the critical one. you could say he 's a critical guy, uh, and uh, in case the dam breaks uh, there was uh, we're going to uh face a flooding situation. well, at least. three, uh, three settlements, this is kamenka-dneprovskaya proper, that part of it, which adjoins directly to the dam. uh, this is the village of znamenskoye and this village of vodyanoye, this is the situation somewhere approximately, but from 15 to 18,000 live in these settlements at the present time, if uh, after all, uh, again, god forbid it breaks through. uh, all this history, then parts of energodar a from the side
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hmm means that spray pools a a and parts of the zaporozhye nuclear power plant will also be in the flood zone. accordingly, there is a risk that power lines, cable lines, and pumping and drainage installations will be flooded. and this will generally create. well , enough serious problems for the operation and ensuring nuclear safety. this could lead to a nuclear catastrophe. no, this will not lead to a nuclear catastrophe, but ah, i allow myself a little not a very parliamentary expression. it will not be boring for all of us if this happens. and what will happen?
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couldn’t appear out of nowhere , respectively, it was accumulated somewhere, and now they are gradually dumping where it was accumulated, and the dnieper enters, hmm , actually on the territory of ukraine and from the chernihiv region. here chernihiv region to zaporozhye seven cascades, seven cascades. uh, hydraulic structures, respectively uh, or uh , on one or several of these hydraulic structures this volume of water accumulated, and now they are dumping it, they are dumping it gradually and i , of course, allow myself a question to the military to a greater extent, but i allow myself to express. uh, the hypothesis that this is also a part, eh. their plan, and on the so-called counter-offensive. and how can it be used? what do you think? yes, it can be very simply
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used if the dam fails and breaks through, otherwise it starts to wash away. e, engineering, military engineering facilities on the first line of defense along the coastline. here and uh. as a matter of fact, e. hmm, they are in this way, but they can make it easier for themselves in theory in theory. this means that the forcing and, and, means the assault, but of these territories. what can be done, in your opinion, at this moment? well, at least, at least you need to repair the so-called emergency shandors, which means that the kakhovka hydroelectric power station, but it’s extremely difficult, extremely difficult, because so, uh, the ukrainian apus are firing at this site, very
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dense aimed fire, to put it simply, they don’t allow this repair to be carried out. and therefore, uh, i am more than sure that our military u will find solutions in this situation. it undoubtedly lies in the plane and certain technical solutions, therefore. i would not like, ah, well, today to anticipate this story, but if a on the other side they don’t think that it will help them, uh, then they are deeply mistaken a and they will uh find a solution, and we will meet them not with flowers, but on average. and how long can this situation persist and can the void go away? natural way? and if my hypothesis about the accumulation of water, but indeed will be confirmed, and then naturally this
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situation. do not allow water to accumulate artificially. how natural? and it can be, but resolved. the fact is that this is a dam - it is any other hydraulic structure. so it has a critically limiting e, load level. uh, that's higher, which this dam simply can't withstand, by the way, speaking in 85, but there, uh, it happened according to natural conditions. there were very plentiful. the precipitation was a lot of snow, and as a result of melting, then it is in the snow. a this was also a critical level, this dam broke through us in 85 years. and no one would fix it. and so it's kind of like this. here and in general, and as a whole. and you also need to think. uh, don't just think. and find
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a solution. and what to do with people, because people, but a real danger threatens, so here is a complex measure, here both the military and the military-civilian administration of the zaporozhye region will make decisions. i'm sure a solution will be found. i mean, uh. how would you rate the situation in general? station here the ukrainian authorities accuse russia of concealing data about some undermining of the territory of intimidation of personnel, they are worried about the lack of a backup power line, as far as everything is true. yulia, well, i'll tell you they're lying, how he breathes. yes , you understand, in parallel with these plans of theirs, and in terms of counter-offensive, they are sequential, but they begin to rock the situation around the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant in part - this is an hmm element. e means psychological e, and the war they wage
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wars wars aimed at creating panic fears of uncertainty. uh, they would naturally this war is more focused on uh. hmm staff, but a nuclear power plant. and here, but uh, the second component of uh, the target component of this war. it consists in the fact that a means to inflict russia as much as possible, tangible reputational damage, a as a state that is not able to ensure nuclear security. uh, regarding their latest art in quotation marks. and you can, uh, so, here you can mark uh, their uh, the so-called circular, which the iaea has posted on its website, and hmm they are so uh hmm suffer about
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the fact that today the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant is powered by only one dnieper 750 line, which means that in this release they are saying that 330 is melted. uh, first line. so it's damaged and still disabled. well, listen, eh. well, there is a measure for everything, even hypocrisy, you understand, which they constantly gush with. well, regarding. uh, here are these 750 lines. there were four of them initially, and the south donbass kakhovskaya zaporizhzhya who destroyed these lines they destroyed by their artillery strikes forward. uh, from february to uh, that means uh . they destroyed it their work. they
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destroyed them systematically, as well as open switchgear, and at a thermal power plant. now let's go through 330. but there were also several of these lines who destroyed the melitopol 330. it was damaged back in february until the twenty- second year. who destroyed them, and molochanskaya 330, and she was also on the line damaged, and in e in february 22 years old. well, that is, one line really works now. what happens if, uh, it gets damaged? well, if it is damaged, turn on one line, not the line of the alternative energy supply system, but uh, but they really have experience of defeating stationary diesel generators, but we have a sufficient number of mobile diesel generators, so we
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we will withstand the backup lines, perhaps this work is being repaired. well, this work is underway, but the fact is that as soon as and this work came to an end or ended, and artillery shelling from ukraine began again and there would be no free couple. that is , again, uh, everything. it was going to be repaired in a new way, so all these moans about and that means nuclear safety. they are nothing more than just hypocritical such fuss and his lies. but they write about that in this circular that the russian armed forces broke into the premises there, which means that i don’t know where they were captured there, but four ukrainian personnel. firstly, these four employees, and for which
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the operating organizations of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant were contracted. secondly, no one escaped anywhere, but they had a conversation with them, they were asked certain questions, and after 3 hours, and they were already free and for quite a long time they have been working at the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant for the security service, but the object is secure and security, now and then questions arise, and one must also keep in mind that martial law. here u don't know they they can’t talk about this, because in all likelihood they have well-established sources of information, but these sources of information are of poor quality, and they don’t work regularly and badly, or we are talking about a malicious provocation, which they actually embodied in these lines writes about what is going on, it means that the tendency to reduce the number of ukrainian employees of the ap is not true. here comes the increase in personnel, uh, for the operating
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organizations of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant. that 's it, so they are you in the wording they write about what is today 1800 ukrainian members of the staff, and still, it means at work and this lie, because the number of people who have not concluded today, but contracts with the operating organization, is neither 1800-800. and you know about those explosions. we haven't already spoken. this is a concept. you know how good amina is with a bad game. uh, here the mine is disgusting and ugly to play. and here, then, this is it, the story, firstly, they mixed up the number, and hmm, not the thirteenth of april. as they write on april 12 at 13:45 a trifle but a necessarily trifle it was a blow uh, drone. here is a strike drone that flew in from ukraine. and their drones, their
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drones fly, they cause damage. i would like to recall once again what happened on the day of the last talks. rather, it is now the penultimate negotiations in kaliningrad between the general secretary, and the rich and the general director of the state corporation rosatom , alexei evgenievich. likhachev right here, uh, at the moment these negotiations began. and that means they dropped it thanks to their efforts, and ours and our fish are expensive electronic, wrestling, also a shock drone of the polish production. for them, this is in the order of things on april 8, 1923, to which they refer , no shots were fired, and there were no explosions on the territory of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, and i can say this. quite responsibly thus piling up. here is the lie of these manipulations. uh, this once again indicates
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that they need to artificially, and to debunk this situation around the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, put the russian federation on the side. uh, incapable of ensuring nuclear safety. well and uh in pupi with everything to the rest, but again it means to increase pressure on us on the russian federation well, just in case, they are planning. eh, there are some options, this is the story. uh, it means that with zimilitarization, from which the mgtey refused , it does not give them peace in all likelihood, but they are preparing a second phase of this kind. uh, that means, uh, an offensive against us, in the part concerning the creation of a zone and militarization. these are hypotheses, but so on consequences. but in fact, i repeat the goals they have alone to inflict the maximum reputational damage on us will not work, because iaea inspectors, uh, they
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are there. they see the situation. a and uh, there uh, so i remember it well, this meeting was on april 8, 23. nobody raised any questions. questions are being raised. only ukraine has seen a rotation in information circulars. uh, magathen representatives, as far as i understand? and how do you evaluate the new e, employees of the new representatives, how objectively adequate they are, how professional. were you able to establish a dialogue? look, well, they are practically all uh adequate, well, yes, i i said it and i will repeat it and i will repeat it. they are, the bogatyr is under the strongest political pressure under the strongest under the strongest military-political pressure, so expect from them, but you understand this, but absolutely objectivity is not necessary, but uh, there are, of course, situations associated
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with hmm uh, redundant fantasies or emotionality of individual inspectors, but in general, but at the level of interaction between state corporations. uh, the rosenergo concern, they are rich there, mm. well, i would rate, uh, the cooperation as generally constructive and oriented it is to ensure nuclear security, and not the political ambitions of the games that are initiated every now and then. that is, the other side of the dnieper well, the last question, probably , you have an idea how the rich see the further development of the situation around the race. maybe you would like to come up with some kind of initiative, m-m ready. well, in this sense, you don’t know somehow not the window that is able to give out the initiative. i am a team member. i am a member of the team, therefore, uh, at
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the state corporation rosatom of the concern rosenergo. there initiatives - this is such a collective thing with regard to mgt. and then, of course, but understanding, uh, means, about these people here in private conversations, but it is. they are well aware that until then. and that means that from the other side of the dnieper there will be not only aggressive rhetoric, but also active military preparations. and that means all kinds of things, and that means that as long as they are generally considered there as a whole, and the forcible seizure of sanctions as one of the ways to solve this problem there is no question of any nuclear security in this story. maybe, but the west is actively arming ukraine, which means that on the other side of the dnieper people are in uniform, and
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the essence is seriously deformed psyche. there is a deep mental illness. here you can expect anything from them at any time, so the inspector mgt. they also understand. they are with ears, they are with eyes, they are with brains, they evaluate sober. yes, they can not say much out loud. but uh, from this same understanding of them does not disappear. eh, they still adequately assess the situation. e. well, i once told e that we can to talk about its development and its normal operation, when the line of contact is pushed back by 300 m. well, maybe, from the point of view of the military, i got excited. but although, well, i still remain approximately at this figure, maybe this figure is less, but, and again and again, for the nuclear power plant. i would like kilometers and probably
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meant no, yes 300 km. yes, if possible, i heard wrong, right? uh-huh, yes, yes, you can’t have a pattern station. it’s not just never anything and under no pretexts to shoot, but you can’t even hatch plans use, and the nuclear power plant as one of the goals of ai until, uh, that side, but does not refuse. uh, this kind of, uh , planning and this kind of approach, and we will not be able to achieve full-fledged nuclear safety. thank you so much for taking the time to answer our questions live. uh, i remind you that on my direct from the studio there was an adviser to the head, rosners, atomarin, rinat, we will now break with a short pause after continuing.
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tape. online from 399 rubles. sberbanquet. book profitably. now let's return to the topic of a sharp rise in the water level at the kakhovka reservoir in the zaporozhye region, according to experts, with the most unfavorable development of events at the dnieper cascade of the hydroelectric power station , the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant may even be flooded. talk to alena kotelevskaya, and she joins the broadcast. hello alina, it was not without a win. in general, of course, in kiev they expect that the high water level in the dnieper will help in the development of the widely publicized counter offensives. this is how the area of the kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station in the zaporozhye region looks now, according to some reports, the level in the kakhovka reservoir has risen by 17 m due to constant shelling from the apu, there is no way to repair the units and carry out a gradual discharge of water. the valves were previously damaged by direct hits
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by ukrainian nationalists. and this is how the area also looked in february, the water, then retreated several hundred meters , formed from the shallows earlier in april. ukraine faced with large-scale flooding , more than one and a half thousand households were sunk in six regions, the ukrainian side then explained everything with abnormally strong and prolonged rains. this allegedly led to a failure in the operation of the entire cascade of the dnieper reservoirs. well, one catch: when a flood occurs, the water level usually rises gradually. but here it is completely different. story. it seems that the ukrainians themselves artificially retained water in the upper reaches of the dnieper in order to then make a sharp discharge. judging by the cosmos pictures, it happened between 24 and 26 april. this is the energodar region on april 24, you can see how the water receded, exposing the sandy shores, the next satellite image was taken a day later on april 26 and no low water. as if there had never been a kakhovka reservoir, it was filled with water again and
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such a situation was arranged on the reservoir located on the dnieper for a specific purpose, according to experts, in this way kiev wants to prepare a bridgehead for the counter offensive , it is known about the concentration of a large number of light boats and boats on the right bank dnieper for its crossing single attempts. repeatedly undertaken earlier in september last year, near the city of kamenka dneprovskaya, 15 post-motor boats unsuccessfully tried to break through. big water, as the apu expects, it should help to overcome mines and explosive barriers from the russian side. through these minefields and engineering barriers by means of light or rubber vessels there, that is, they additionally melt the funds, in fact. they just swim through these fields along this wave due to flooding several meters in height, in fact. well what kind of mines are there? but still, according to military analysts, an attempt to land under such conditions is more of a media move,
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designed for a bright shot and the reaction of the western press will not bring the expected military effect. it seems to me that this is still a bit of a fantasy story, because , well, they would have crossed the first line of defense. but further, and further, artillery awaits you, heavier structures await. there are concrete structures line. so to say, in general, the line of defense is such a concept, in fact. this is a whole chain of various engineering and objects. more one consequence of the overflow of the kakhovka reservoir is already possible, the destruction of the dam in the village of kamenka dneprovskaya in the event of its breakthrough, let me remind you that the city of kamenka-dneprovskaya may be the first to suffer, and the villages of blagoveshchenka and the water are located nearby in total. there may be about 15 and 18,000 people living in the risk zone, as already mentioned for the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. but it seems that in ukraine they don’t bother too much about such.
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