tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 May 5, 2023 11:00pm-11:30pm MSK
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hello on the air of chronicles new players in the middle east the intrigue remains or not the materials of our program the coronation of charles iii major military operations in iraq ended the battle for iraq the united states and our allies prevailed, thanks to you 20 years ago may 1, 2003 president us george bush jr. was dame
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hussein iraq has become for the americans a quagmire, first blazing then smoldering and most importantly. what was the mission anyway? why operation iraqi freedom began in march 2003 already in may of the same year, george w. bush hurried to declare victory in the war against saddam hussein, it took another 8 years only in september 2010 barack obama officially announced the end of the us mission in iraq but peace has not yet come by the time the main contingent of us troops was withdrawn in 2011, the losses of the country of the coalition members amounted to almost 5,000 military personnel, most of the americans are a patient of the pentagon, iraqi military and police were killed more than 19,000 , to figures that cause heated debate according to various
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sources from 100 to 300,000, while the lancet magazine stepped over the figure of 600,000. but it is both civilians and combatants of the american invasion that has become a catalyst between the ethnic conflict between sunnis and shiites. bass took over the occupational administration of paul bremer, as a result , not only the former military were left without work, you became the social base of extremists islamic state. only in the first 10 years after the fall of the regime in iraq, there were more than 30,000 terrorist attacks, and in 2013, the protest mood in the sudnitsa provinces turned into an open armed confrontation by the shiite government of the jihadist islamic state seized almost 30 countries, including such large cities as mosul poluja tikrit and ramadiya, about 100,000 and arab christians fled to iraqi kurdistan the new government and cancer, now
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they themselves turned to the us military for help in the operation to liberate mosul began in february 2017 and lasted 6 months, according to the wallfree journal newspaper , infrastructure damage during the struggle. us $45 billion in financial losses were dozens of times more the congressional research service believes that by 2011 the americans spent more than $800 billion on the war in iraq, but nobel prize-winning economists joseph steglitz believes that the indirect losses for the us economy and other countries are about six trillion the war in iraq caused irreparable damage to the cultural heritage of the country, back in 2003 there were 28 museums and galleries were plundered, including the iraqi national museum, which was considered an object of world cultural heritage. unesco part of the artifacts was discovered in
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europe and the usa . a lot has been said about the fraternal war, including in our program now what is more important than what happened then. and how did it affect the current situation in the middle east, of course, it is fairly reasonable to even assume that it was it that became the turning point for both the region and the world order in terms of the role and places of the united states on iraq and not only the tenth and eighties, the leading iraqi oil specialists from the eighty-seventh to the nineties served as minister of oil and cancer after he left for the private sector and has since been considered one of the most authoritative experts on middle east energy and himself 20 years. after bush announced victory in iraq , what state the country is in. what has been achieved during this time arrives in a terrible state,
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on the contrary, the country is rolling back, iraq developed industry, agriculture. the academic sphere was at the level, and many envied the iraqi infrastructure in general, today there is none of this. i will give a simple example from the moment when oil reached iraq. this was in october, 1927 until 2003 , the proceeds from its sale amounted to 283 billion dollars. compare with the income for the last one, they did with this money during the years of the monarchy, a lot was built in the first and second republics, and in these two decades there is nothing to show, in general, corruption, bribes , endless restaurants and shopping centers, but not a single industrial enterprise. even those what was built before is no longer functioning iraq imports virtually the entire impression that this is what the united states was trying to push back the 22 arab
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countries. iraq iraqis were known as a strong side and a strong people in a sense , the backbone of the entire arab community, having destroyed iraq, the americans got the opportunity to do what they want in the entire arab world. look what happened after 2003 everywhere not only in iraq in lebanon syria yemen libya the arab world. now maximum cancer was the guarantor. i do not mean any particular regime, since monarchical times and cancer has firmly supported the arabs in a variety of situations, both during the war with israel and during the period of economic problems, and cancer has extended a helping hand to other arab countries, having destroyed iraq, the west was able to lend a hand throughout the arab world. and how do you assess the personality of adamahein now, did he get what he deserved as a result, or did fate treat him unfairly? there is no doubt about that, but is he the only one on
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the planet? the darkness of dictators could have been counting latin america africa asia, he made huge mistakes, but he built a nation and created an economy. many got rich. yes, his associates advisers, especially his sons' inner circle, however, did not find any direct evidence of corruption, which was associated with him a casus belli , two charges of involvement in terrorism and links to al-qaeda were not unified. no evidence was found, because it was the other way around. he fought salt with kaida. this is now al-qaeda and the islamic state and a host of other extremist groups, but none of them were there when the rules give a second charge of having weapons of mass destruction from 1991 to 2003, however, mission after another after 2003. again searched nothing at all they just wanted to be destroyed adam may have been a personal
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motive bush jr. read that saddam tried to arrange an assassination attempt on his father, well, or all sorts of religious ideas that overwhelmed the souls, if you now conduct an honest sociological study and ask the ravians when they were better at creating or now i think 60 percent will choose, while now the united states is reducing its presence in the middle east and is gradually leaving it. can this improve the situation before, no one has provided, outside is impossible now we have a global intervention , the united states great britain france many countries are deeply involved in iraqi affairs, what kinds of presence there are from intelligence and so on, but not only that, but also regional powers iran control armed groups and much of the economy turkey saudi arabia other arab countries. all of them are seriously involved in arab politics on both sides of america and iran, you
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say that the us is leaving. do they have military bases on iraqi territory, are they present in the south and in the north, they still control all the airspace and this is called cancer, they will not go anywhere. unless they change tactics. they promised to leave in 2011 nothing like that. thank you . it was the chubby himself. shock and tragedy blame everything only on the americans. this means that many have tried to simplify the picture, but that's all. the greatest momentum was given from washington march 2003 by the invasion of the united states and its allies in iraq, the regime of saddam hussein is overthrown october 2006 as a result of the merger of radical sunist formations, the salcadoi , a terrorist civil war begins between sunnis and shiites in january 2006
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, the american administration insists on holding parliamentary elections in palestine. they are won by the islamist movement. hamas has more elections to play with. not carried out the following year militants. movements captured power in the gas sector since then in palestine, two fatah authorities against homas december 2010, if the arab spring began to lead to riots in the country, tunisian president ben ali is overthrown and flees to saudi arabia, anti-government demonstrations affected algeria egypt morocco jordan sudan and even february 2011 as a result of popular protests , egyptian president hosnemu barak resigned against bashar, assad june 2012 the representative of the muslim brotherhood wins the first democratic elections in egypt
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mohammed of murcia, but less than a year later in june 2013, the army announced his deposition in may 2014 by the president of egypt elected representatives of the military abdel, fantah al-city february 2011 in libya as a result of the uprising of the tribes and in october 2011. he was brutally killed libya ceased to exist , as a single state in may 2011, yemeni president ali abdala sallah abdicated and fled to saudi arabia in february 2012 , abba mansourdi was elected president of the country, but a civil war began between the sunites and about the iranian swedish houthis group she there is a leadership of sudan and the separatists of the south, the country was divided into two states of sudan and the republic of south sudan, but after the partition , constant military conflicts occur in both territories april 2013
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as a result of the merger of al-qaeda branches in iraq syria, a new grouping of the islamic state of iraq and the lebanese was formed, or isis, whose goal was to create an islamic emirate on the territory of modern iraq syria and lebanon september 2015, at the request of the president of syria, russia launched an operation to liberate countries from isis militants and other radicals, except for russian pilots and military advisers. on the side of assad were the iranian guards of the islamic revolution and the militants of the lebanese, shiite, kheswala group . on the fifteenth in morocco , a government of national unity of libya was created , faiz as saraj was appointed the new prime minister. in the east of libya, he was opposed by the army of the rebellious general khalifa khafre, who back in 2014 declared war on the government in tripoli.
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the war is on, to this day in august 2016, turkey conducted a large-scale ground operation euphrad shield. the goal of liberating the northern regions in syria from militants and gigils , as a result, a strip along the turkish syrian border between the cities of jarabls and assos passed under the control of turkey. november 2016 army. bashar. asada took the eastern part of the city of alelepo. it was a turning point in the fight against isis in syria february 2017 iraqi authorities, with us support, launched an operation to liberate iraqi mosul in june 2017 syrian demo. us-led forces launched an offensive against the capital of the so-called islamic state cancer january 18 turkish army again crossed the roman frontier.
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the latest turkish operation in the north of syria iraq called to clink the sword was carried out in november 2022, its goal was to liberate the border areas from the militants of the kurdistan workers' party as for the consequences of the american policy, the climax of which was the invasion of iraq, we spoke with andrey ziltov from the school of oriental studies of the higher school of economics these are some problems , even then it was clear to the local political elites that this was a gamble that did nothing it will not end well, because unlike americans from americans. uh, arab uh, political circles. eh, they perfectly imagined that iraq is such a barrel of spores that you cannot sleep in. so they just pushed it away with this finger, not a. well, it’s clear that the internal tasks that the americans were solving were still connected with obligations that they did not assume to saudi arabia. and here they are in such a
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strange way these obligations. i mean, security guarantees from the creators of the son. they solved them in such a strange way. e, in including the execution of the result. it is clear the results are known. uh, iraq became the forerunner. uh, in fact, the processes of quite radical transformations, which we today call true or wrong arab spring, the iraqi fiasco forced the americans and the elites in the region to rethink the situation. so after all, it began to be done back in the early nineties , when this regime of two external guarantors of the security of the middle east disappeared. well, for obvious reasons, the ussr began a little before this problem, how to mount his duty as this very guarantor of security and an interesting situation turned out.
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that is, the political elites of the middle east, which for the last 75 years there, roughly speaking, lived in a well-known paradigm, when they had two sponsors, such a disturbing departure to another, that is, one united states, uh , disturbing a departure towards the soviet union, the soviet union, disturbing such a migration towards the united states, and suddenly it was all gone and it turned out that we needed ourselves. re-invent. well, because there was 75 years of experience quite logical existence, which did not require much effort. and now this is the process of reinvention, which began back then
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today, he has taken on a fairly tangible thing. e forms, but there were some final turning point. in terms of the perception of americans. departure from afghanistan, or rather not leaving afghanistan. flight from afghanistan , which practically broke the ridge with a camel absolutely. that's what is called the next morning before the political middle east in general. apparently, how we look americans. why is the question different?
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that is, we turn out to be quite ourselves, from uh we find ourselves, uh, abandoned, or what? that is, this is such a story that i named for myself, uh, and now you yourself, that is, the americans, uh, turned around and said, well, let's u engage in political constructions that will allow us to continue. maintain your sword one way or the other. it was in this situation that the processes that we now see in the middle east began. it turns out that the united states is the most interesting, that washington began to understand, it turned out that the parting words of the americans. now you're on your own, judging
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around the arab political class took it at face value and began to really do something on the principle of themselves, but let's try. or maybe we have some resource from here peace agreement, but so far preliminary, but apparently they will be. well, there is a lot of talk about what china has done. no, it wasn't china that did it, it was saudi arabia and iran that did it. and these are the saudis, who you saw that, uh, it is pointless to expect any more decisive intervention from the americans. something needs to be done about the situation in the region. well, to put it mildly, allows. uh, develop quite intensively. well, we remembered that we are muslims, well, then it will fail. well, in the end we have only one koran. a. let's try to get back to the dialogue. well, be that as it may, it
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is quite difficult to imagine the middle east without the americans at all; the americans, of course, do not fully come out. well, because they can’t leave completely, there is no interest, but they can’t leave, because, firstly, china , which occupies more and more serious positions in the middle east, and secondly, russia in fact, but this is completely useless and therefore the americans will not completely leave. but the fact that the grip of the weakened gave the opportunity to local political elites to get a taste of the independent decision of their own judges. for me, it shows that the americans will no longer be able to return to the middle east in the video that they played before. in general, they will remain so. uh, serious external players, maybe not guarantors of security, as it used to be, but quite mediators and
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participants in the process from the outside, i say again, for one simple reason, the most important thing, probably, is that neither one nor the other country teaches. e lives are about how to live right. and how to live wrong. thank you. we talked with andrei took the tatami, as we see our interlocutors disagree on how long the presence of the americans is. it is understandable. while the process is only unfolding. we do not accept the arguments that the us is weakening so much that it is leaving the shaves of the east and leaving a vacuum there. to be honest, we haven't seen this. yes, today americans are not as active there as before, but still felt very strong presence on a number of issues no cooperating us and other western countries. with these countries, in order to ensure the stability of prosperity in the middle east and the opportunity to maximize the potential, we do not want there to arise. and if it arises it is very important that
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the countries of the region work together to overcome it. for 20 years, the middle east has met four american presidents; donald trump was the brightest and he understood the least. why do we need this crazy region is not enough, or something, isotev to see trump in the white house again and they are not the only ones waiting for him with hope hungarian prime minister viktor orban spoke on thursday at a conference of conservative forces in budapest and simply yelled sure that if mr. trump was us president, no war would tear apart today was ukraine europe come back mr. president. make america great again and bring us where we experiment with conservative ideas from the incubator, our regular contributor alexander popova hungarian guests have to
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maneuver last year remembered economic shocks , production costs have risen today people live in fear of tomorrow we suffer, and supermarkets suffer even more abode ordered us to reduce the price of eggs to 65 euro cents, and the conflict in the east. it doesn't help us at all. vice versa. it pushes up the cost of production hard times kept at a relative distance from the events in the ukraine of the prime minister. viktor orban, however, under pressure from the west, supported himself against russia, but did not want them to concern strategic resources such as gas or not, the second is inflation. we need to avoid these dangers. we must overcome them, but we do not have the strength. if we want to protect hungary, if we want a peaceful life for ourselves, then we must stay
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away from the russian ukrainian conflict. well, staying on the sidelines is getting harder and harder to help ukraine provoke its own costs. and now hungary is banning the export of ukrainian products that have accumulated cheap goods on its territory, changing the situation on the market even worse for a technical product unsuitable for consumption. so bad that people took to the streets. they were tired not only of the grain itself, but even more of the ukrainization of the country. yes , this is the grain that comes to us from ukraine of poor quality. it does not meet european standards. it is tainted with chemicals that are banned in our country. already 20 years. we can say that our neighbors will set up the problem not only for farmers, but also for consumers. why does the polish consumer have to eat bread made from flour that is unsuitable for eating? gold, nagy would have been a teacher at a school in kishvarde for many years. it is not far from
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the border with ukraine about 20 kilometers, when the conflict began, the school offered humanitarian aid to the refugees, and he himself and his wife. went to the border crossing to help in person today they are wondering. and who will help them in such a situation , we watch the news and see that every day there is an escalation of the conflict, it becomes dangerous, so we have long been holding food supplies for several weeks, or even months. we plant more vegetables and fruits in the garden, but we also rely on politicians. we believe in nato, because it must have been created to ensure security, and i think our leaders know what they're doing. it is clear that for many, russia is still to blame for everything, namely, viktor orban proposed to open a house of terror museum in 2002, where you can find out how hungary defended itself from occupation, first german, and then soviet about the third reich here. the truth is little much more than the rights of the hungarian
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communists and the soviet dictatorship. the entire communist system was based on terror because it created conditions in which people could not think, speak or act freely. this is not a decent life. such an order. they could only sustain this long through terror. there are those who think otherwise now they are almost inaudible, but for example, tamas, a well-known historian professor, taught for many years in budapest. the university has home photographs of his daughter and grandchildren. but as soon as the conflict broke out in ukraine, everything changed for him, his relatives considered that in these circumstances, even in israel, it would be safer for them and left there, despite their views. you see, stop-a-dog i feel like europe is submissive
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by an american decree, but they are very far from war, not an abstract confrontation between good and evil - this is an element of a great world game that can hit each of them at any moment, many people rely on common sense in politicians, but without confidence that he will take up alexandra popova specially for international review after advertising the beautiful uk crown.
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