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and we are discussing topical issues on the international agenda. in particular, the deputies of the state duma adopted a law on denunciation, that is, on the rejection of the treaty on conventional armed forces in europe, abbreviated to all the causes and consequences of this refusal, and we will also discuss many other topics with leonid slutsky, chairman of the state duma committee on international affairs. now he is getting in touch with the fifth studio. hello leonid eduardovich, listen, you can hear me hello anton good morning, russia 24 so ah. it is known , after all, that russia has suspended its participation in e. well, actually, a broken conventional forces treaty. europe back in 2007. and now a complete failure in the first place, that's why yes laws established. i remember quotas for quantity tanks number of armored vehicles artillery aircraft helicopters. that is why now these norms are not relevant. and who in general , uh, violated?

balance e of the armed forces in europe where did this imbalance and imbalance come from, you absolutely accurately named anton, uh, five , categories of weapons, battle tanks, armored combat vehicles, artillery, attack helicopters and combat aircraft, according to which the same agreement on conventional armed forces forces in europe abbreviated to all, and let me remind you that it was signed in paris on november 19, the nineteenth year, and in november of the ninety-second year , 2 years after signing, it entered into force, so, for these five categories of weapons. he e treaty established the maximum allowable quantitative levels of weapons for the countries of the signatories, but with the expansion of nato to the east in the nineties, the treaty is essentially. e became archaic, therefore, in russia , a modified e was developed and everything was adapted to all of it. the professionals called this adapted to

everything, unfortunately, it was not destined to come into force, since the west with this i didn’t agree with the contract, and every year the contract is getting bigger and bigger. e has become, uh, historical echoism a vestige of atavism, whatever. we e really came out e not completely we are in 2007 realizing that the treaty has not been de facto fulfilled for a long time nato is expanding. uh, uh, going east and there's definitely a major disruption on all five. uh, groups of weapons, for which yes everything set the maximum possible quantitative level of weapons. we have suspended. you are absolutely right about your participation, but we did not go out. we left the door an opening for those western countries who really care about the balance of power, who care about global security?

in the soviet continent, the door was open for 15 years, but not that no one entered it, on the contrary, the strange north atlantic alliance began to withdraw from the treaty at the time of signing back in the nineties, it was about balance, uh, and certainly balance with with the participation of the warsaw pact organization , the soviet union and the warsaw pact organization ceased to exist from that moment on. uh, the countries just started not it is a pity for europe to pay attention to the actions of the treaty on conventional armed forces in europe as a whole, because many soviet russians. ah, military experts. diplomats, together with colleagues abroad , have been moving towards a fundamental document for many years, which would be established. the strategic balance of power in europe at that

time was good. it was, i would say , more of a fundamental treaty. the trouble is that nato did not pay attention to actions , as well as, in principle, to common sense and now the situation has just reached its climax. we russia declared war on the collective west. they are trying to destroy us , they are trying to destroy our national security, our national economy. you can see that they are trying to social policy, especially in recent months, other countries of different continents of the asia-pacific region of africa latin america are rallying around russia, which are against the unipolar world order on the planet of the 21st century, which are against the regime of the world architecture of the system of international relations world politics. the influence will be washington

such countries are becoming more and more and they are really rallying around russia seeing this as a collective west e. now he has simply lost his head and is trying to strangle us in the most frantic way, of course, under these conditions everything has become completely archaic and we have nothing else left. how to recognize this officially that is why yesterday the state duma supported the bill introduced by the president on the denunciation of the russian federation treaty on conventional armed forces in europe and unanimously voted for this to the end. everything is great. unfortunately, if the treaty has not been fulfilled for a long time, today it has simply become a piece of history and we continue this topic. yes, leonid comrade. here, uh, in general, on the eurasian continent, an agreement on restrictions on conventional weapons is it necessary and if it is likely that it will appear there

in the long term, for example, when we win, and it will be in the near future that we will defeat a special military operation in ukraine when nazism is finally defeated and no matter how our enemies were not sure in the opposite, we will win and once again emphasized we will win in the very near future and uh, then certainly uh, various agreements that regulate a stable, secure , balanced world architecture, of the 21st century, agreements can appear that will be observed agreements that will really, uh, declare and guarantee real practical, but the balance of power on the european. continent balance of power on the planet, for now, given the aggressive action. uh, the west, who once again lost his head, lost the remnants of his sanity meaning.

and he is waging a completely dislocated unfounded, but nevertheless, a real war against russia near the region. ukraine has become a terrorist springboard and it's time to officially recognize ukraine as a terrorist state. speaking yesterday in the state duma, to the nose before everything, i proposed recognizing ukraine now as a terrorist state, as well as we must understand that the unifying principle for the countries of the west for the forces of evil, which today they represent with themselves, is certainly, uh, a unifying principle. eh, it became not a movement towards peace, but it became russophobia. i proposed introducing criminal liability for russophobia. this should also be done very soon at the st. petersburg legal forum, which recently ended russophobia was called nazism of the 21st century. and that's absolutely right. we must forcefully

recognize ukraine as a terrorist state. we must forcefully declare criminal responsibility for russophobia. well , as for the agreements on which they really guaranteed during their preparation and signing for more than 30 years back, such as yes all, but the strategic balance of power. in this case, european. the continent remains to regret that all the years of our recent history the collective west did not fulfill this agreement, therefore today we really regret this bit of history, but in today's conditions there certainly was and is no other way out. how to completely get out of everyone and thus correctly behave in the world political space completely, freed from this agreement, which has not been working for a long time and, uh, being in conditions when it is necessary to give a symmetrical rebuff to the theme of evil to the forces of darkness, excuse me for saying

this, this is, in fact, the way it is for the collective west, which is now trying to do everything possible and impossible and does not stop at monstrous crimes, but against humanity in ukraine in order to suffocate our country. here, just about the forces of evil, what are you talking about about the collective west, new and new packages have already been announced , this is great britain, this is germany, uh, new packages of military assistance to ukraine, respectively kyiv regime. and so, in your opinion, does this mean that the west is preparing to play long. in general, if she has the strength for this, if the possibilities. you know, uh, the bidens are macrons scholz, here, uh, the leaders of the countries are some, uh, gorsky politicians around them, because we must pay tribute to the world, seeing the light and the collective west is seeing the light. oh, and the economy, of course. you are absolutely right

anton in your statement of the question. is there any strength in the united states is about to be declared a technical default. i speak about this. we simply objectively state the economic situation in a country that has proclaimed itself the world's policeman and is trying to resist all the forces of common sense on the planet. if you allow me to say so to the forces of common sense. indeed, this is the situation. the population of the united states is very difficult in the country , realizing that the establishment is at war, that the establishment is playing. well, at their expense and conservatively the establishmund to those who have declared themselves the political elite, including those in both houses of congress and uh, are trying to really

play war. so the strength is very, very small. but look. so you mentioned, just the same coffin, including i would very much like to hear your commentary on his statement, i quote, in fact, a french french newspaper. e, macron, said that russia allegedly suffered an obletic defeat and falls into alleged vassal dependence on china, so what can be said here? here you can advise president macron exactly, on the contrary, give an assessment. he, of course, will not do this , the word moscow, a geographical name, should be replaced with a parish. then it will really be what is happening today and happened paris suffered a geopolitical defeat in uh in france there are numerous strikes and demonstrations of protest against the current government against the weakening of the national

economy, which, unfortunately, is getting worse every month because it is france, like some others countries of western europe have fallen into vassalage from the united states of america and by waging war against russia , carrying out the directives that are drawn up by washington, are increasingly weakening their own national economy. more and more aggravate the situation of their citizens of their population, therefore, of course, all these macrons, scholz bidens, will go down in history with a load of shame, which was justly noted yesterday at a meeting of the state duma of dedication to all chairman of the state duma vyacheslav viktorovich volodin hello, what do you say about moldova a. there actually initiated an investigation. you know, with regard to all candidates for the post of head of gagauzia, the local cec accused all eight-dimensional candidates for the post

of bashkans of exceeding election expenses. this is the official wording of all fined. how are you. e. assess the likelihood that the results of the elections will simply be canceled. and i remind you that the candidate from the shor party and yevhen hutsul won the elections, what can i say here? evgeny alexandrovna kutsul, uh , legally, elected head of the bashkan of gagauzia moldova is driven again. excuse what is in fact, the very collective west. the official chisinau is trying to challenge the results of these elections, and, uh, it is trying to use the poor arsenal of means that the official chisinau has for this, including fines and speaks out, and the people of gagauzia have made their choice. yevgenia hutsul, a representative of the short party, legally became president. eh,

i beg your pardon. well, as a matter of fact. you can say so, in fact, the historical name, bashkan, the head of the republic of gagauzia and so, to challenge, and the elections are noggin, yes , gagauzia, the official chisinau is hardly worth it looks like. it's somehow not solid and it's clear that behind this there are forces much to the west of chisinau. i think that the official chisinau needs to somehow cool his head and come to common sense. well, this is my position. i'm not sure that it will be taken into account by the official chisinau, they dominate there, and the forces of the collective west , which completely made today's a political establishment in moldova sorry for repeating the stems, schmid collective smell, so and there are, and unfortunately, the political elites of these countries, uh, fell.

e. under the influence of forces much more western than their own capitals and territories, therefore, and, they say that russia interfered in the elections, it is necessary, therefore , to challenge and, besides, uh, other similar nonsense that sounds from chisinau in recent days, once again emphasizing evgeny , the suppression was chosen legally and the official silence needs to calm down the final question to you e about, of course , how you evaluate the elections in turkey and the course will be. uh, the second round is how closely it is being followed by the state duma committee on international affairs and france dtp the ldpr faction, as i think and our other colleagues in the state duma , the committee that i head is following the developments around the presidential elections in turkey, literally not something that everyone day. and, if we talk about the fourteenth of may election day, every hour. on the twenty

-eighth of may, the second round was a bright, political struggle and i must note that the observation mission and the edipch bureau for democratic institutions of human rights in the osce and also the parliamentary missions, the osce parliamentary assemblies, the osce parliamentary assemblies of the council of europe, did everything possible to find a speck in the eye of the candidate of the incumbent president, rejet erdogan, that he did something wrong, somewhere he exceeded expenses. eh, analogy with the distant. it would seem, uh, with the chisinau and uh elections in gagauzia and so on, they tried in every possible way to somehow, uh, protest the actions of erdogan's election headquarters, nevertheless, we see, but let erdogan win by a small margin. let's wait until may 28

say, looking at the elections and in georgia and much more large-scale much more important for the uh world architecture of the system of international relations elections. in turkey, we need not to interfere with anyone in the selected company on the territory of modern states with observation missions. one must really be objective and impartial, as laid down in their principles. i hope that the second round will be held with minimal external interference, because the minister of foreign affairs of turkey and other political figures are already here. warned the west that it is not worth interfering in the electoral processes in turkey and, uh, the people of turkey will elect their president on may 28. we will continue to keep abreast of russia 24 and monitor these really important elections in a country that

is our partner, and, in particular , we have a large volume in the economy, and we will follow economic interaction, thank you, of course, thank you. thank you very much for the detailed answers leonid slutsky, the chairman of the state duma committee on international affairs, was in touch with the fifth studio, and we return to the topic of how the west is pumping weapons to ukraine, in particular the speech of its great britain storm shadow missiles, which the kiev regimes have already begun to use. there was a blow to lugansk to wash the missiles down, but london is preparing new new packages of so-called military assistance to kiev with anti-aircraft missiles with combat drones , we will discuss all this with a military expert to savya moro , founder of the center for political and strategic analysis. mr. council is now in touch with us. hello hello so the agency is quoting you that new types of weapons will not allow kiev

win the conflict or even successfully carry out the spring offensive, that this will not help, but will only prolong the confrontation for another couple of months. please tell me why? well, you need to understand that initially i am sure that he is not pantogo or french, uh, army headquarters. uh, they thought that ukraine, even if it helps, maybe where to play against russia goal number one and a plan, and there will be no plan b, this is what needs to be kept, like 3-6 months against russia and thanks to the sanctions, the economy will uh file and then uh people will be on the street putin will leave power. we will divide russia as it has been breaking through more for the last two or two centuries, and uh, you understand that this did not happen in 3 months, in months and today. uh, the russian economy is just holding on. well, uh

is being transformed and more autonomous were, so it still won't change and the goal is to prolong it . they will send what they have and for example you told me to shadow to shadow it's no miracle weapon it's a subsonic weapon. uh, why did they use it not against the warehouse or not against it? uh, well, there is no serious goal, they carried out on luhansk on may 11, because there is the anniversary of er refer randon uh, 8 9 years ago and, but they did not call against the military bodies. why because uh, i don't know that military targets, uh, russian pv- are very good at defending. uh, bodies like that, and they use confirmation, civil whole, like uh. they are fighting now in donetsk, uh, everything that they gave me, i see, for example, in

the french countries. this is amx 10rc. this is a very old weapon. it's a car uh, they ministerial will be created for africa well, you see. cesar, which we spent in ukraine, is also not an armored car, it is a truck with a gun, a very good gun. it can look up to 40 km if you have adequate ammunition, but they sent me adequate ammunition and you know , they also have a nickname in africa because when the whole user is 150 50 mm, in a freak, no one will answer you, but in russia there is what to answer against is 155 mm. and if you don't have an armored car, it's generally dangerous and that's it. and that's it. likewise and that it will change send two, that this can change, when in russia there are already a thousand tanks there, which the latest version is already sending to the front, how are you those 90 em breakthrough, so uh,

it's even. well, it's a bed. it's a crime to have such weapons in ukraine and think that this is something that will change. but mr. frost, please tell me about the f-16 question. these were these combat aircraft, perhaps they will be sent to ukraine , we are talking about this and there is a lot of talk zelensky dreams of getting similar, so to speak, aircraft of similar military equipment. so you talked about the f-16 miracle weapon - it can claim the title of a miracle, this too . uh, the mig-29 has two engines, and the f-16 has the same one sometimes it will understand who will be theirs who will pilot this public. by the way, this is a weapon, because you need to learn a pilot, and uh, it means that if you immediately uh, kiev wants

to use it, you need to send it on the board from well , let's find, uh, a good share uh, in poland or in germany they who fly on 16. against the russians, who know all this very well, the best in the world. this is also a myth, but theirs is also an interesting question, because today it is almost impossible for a ukrainian pilot to fly up after 100 m . and uh, what can one ask now, uh, zeleninsky, for example, these are the way they are, uh, a bitch 25 in the russian country and were in the ukrainian country. well, almost all destruction already. well, there are such planes that can unite very lower and very effective to shoot against tanks. why didn't zelensky ask them?

they are already in europe, i'll tell you why, if you want viennese ones, because only the usa has such aircraft and the usa i increased the usa forbade them to ask for such weapons, because yes, then you can immediately use it, but of course, with american pilots , but we can use it right away, and, uh, and effective, but what does the us want now that who has american weapons? those who have their own weapons send them empty to help ukraine, but we do not send ours. they said that we we will rule abrams, but let's remove everything that is multiples from above the balls. ah, accessories. and the same for f-16. yes , there is europe in 2016 and they are european armies. they give you the american army. they e country, which is the most most do not want to deliver. why doesn't zelensky ask something from 10? why i still don't understand, because it was immediately effective. thank you.

thank you very much mr. moroz for your analysis. eh, for your opinion with us. i was in touch, the founder of the center for political and strategic analysis of the military expert savier moreau talked about how the west, and in particular in the uk, is pumping weapons into the kiev regimes, but this will not be effective. and there are very clear reasons for this. it was the fifth studio see you. the shelling resumed early in the morning, ukrainian troops again deliver a powerful blow to donetsk. also today, the center of gorlovka came under fire . what are the consequences of what situation by this minute? strikes are carried out daily and residential buildings, bus stations, schools and kindergartens are hit on civilian objects in the zaporozhye region.