tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 May 20, 2023 2:00am-2:31am MSK
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[000:00:28;00] hello, you are on the air of the international review of the fyodor lukyanov studio today in the program of the international review of the events of the week of the chronicles facts comments the results of the turkish elections are now exactly the second round a divided country international detente, how the luxury of reducing tension leads to
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its growth materials of our program. mesut ozil, a german of turkish origin, is probably the most famous and most ardent supporter of erdogan in the world. by the way, in germany, where the largest turkish diaspora lives, recepta and erdogan won. in the first round of presidential election of his rival kemal, kylych. daraglu intrigue continues the fate of the turkish presidency and will be decided in the second round. after a week of passion. before the first vote , they warmed up to the entire international community, openly sympathizing with the applicant. now in western commentary. disappointment seeps through, but the outcome is not a foregone conclusion those who predicted turkey's toughest elections in decades were right. the first round of elections
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was held, with a record voter turnout of 89% , erdogan confidently won in fifty-one the provinces of turkey and his rival kemal, kalachudaraglu in the remaining thirty major cities, including istanbul and ankara , voted for the opposition candidate, but there the gap between the candidates is no more than 2%. on the other hand , the incumbent president confidently wins in all the northern black sea provinces of the country. among them, sinop samsung trabzon is noticeably inferior to its opponent in the south, almost the entire mediterranean, the coast is beyond the reach of the road. these are provinces from the world of aydin mugla, antalya mersin adena. hai and the gap between candidates with the exception of the last two reaches 30%. at the same time, the central part of the country, the religious and conservative turkish
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hinterland, supported erdogan in the province of hatay, which suffered a gap of 1% from the february earthquake. and in the other two, gaziantep and kahramon, marash, the overwhelming majority among erdogan's supporters east and south-east of turkey are completely on the side of kalachdaraglu in the provinces of mordvin diyar batyr shirnak and khokkeria, where predominantly kurds live, the gap in favor of the opposition candidate reaches 50%, by most foreign plots, unlike inside the turkish vote won, won the well oglu erdogan won in france germany norway and north africa in russia voted for his opponent. but if we consider, as is customary, by the number of votes, then erdogan won abroad even in the first round and gained more than 50% of the support of all voters , mainly due to germany, where there
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is a large turkish diaspora. and in the prospects for the decisive round, we will talk with our good friend and urologist pavel shlykov from isa pavel hello what was unexpected in the first round and how these surprises can manifest themselves in the second round, well, the main, but unexpected moment was that sinon the third person in this shortlist of electoral results scored so many almost 3 million and it is obvious that this will become an important factor in the second round of the election campaign . and the subject of the struggle between the two main contenders was another unpleasant surprise, rather it was for the opposition of kemal kalovich daglu, who, according to almost the majority of sociological polls, was ahead by several percent, and according to one poll
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even almost 10% of his main competitor, the current president of russian railways, and he received less, almost again, he did not win a percentage. in the first round, and preparing for a very difficult one, and the profitability of the opposition came from the fact that they would win immediately, yes. she hoped that in conditions when the rating of the incumbent president shows a downward trend, there is enough money for a while, and the rating of the opposition, which was able to consolidate and nominate a single candidate, however, not the single candidate that many were counting on in kemaljaković's team zaroglu extremely popular measures the capitals of ankara and the mayors of turkey's largest city of istanbul , respectively, mansur, i'm your mother of the corner , and they
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are always in the lead during this preparatory period for elections. and by the way, speaking of sampling, malikovich in the corner of the road fueled discord in a coalition of six positional parties for a long time , negotiations were underway and the result of these negotiations was a very strange configuration that would be, and the presidential candidate was kemal, and in his team. popular measures and leaders of all six parties will get the vice-presidential positions, we can imagine that in the case of a kemaljakovic dar corner, what will the political system of the republic of turkey look like ? potential to carry out their legislative initiatives without consultation of uncompromising with other political forces. you mentioned leg hay, but for obvious reasons, we refer to it.
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especially he da doctorate doctorate hemoy has, and he is portrayed as a nationalist and xenophomy. well, that is the anti-migration agenda, and apparently, it turned out that it resonates more with the mood from the break than they thought. xena nagan was born in the sixty-seventh year in the turkish province of the games in azerbaijan. in the eighty-ninth family, he graduated from the faculty of business administration of the marmara university in istanbul, where he also received a master's degree in financial law specialist in russia ukraine and the cis countries in the nineties lived and worked in azerbaijan, first in the office the second azerbaijani president, abulfaz ilchibey, and then to representatives of the turkish cooperation agency, the coordination of tik, which is considered the main instrument of turkey's soft power in the world, in 2004 created and headed the center for international relations and
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strategic analysis of turkmens, and in 2009 he defended his dissertation on the formation of the russian direction in turkey's foreign policy in the context of globalization nationalist in 2011, he was elected to the turkish parliament from the party. nationalist movement davlet bakhchili, however, he was later expelled from the party due to disagreements with its chairman by a court decision, the politician was restored, but after 2 years he was expelled again. since then, he has not been a member of any party, like many other oppositionists. agan believes that the country needs to return to a parliamentary form of government promises to raise the minimum wage to fight corruption and guarantee freedom of the media within the country in foreign policy for friendship and good faith relations with both east and west and is ready to mediate in resolving the conflict between russia and ukraine, ogan advocates a more
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active turkish military intervention in syria so that there are no bulls of the pkk left on its territory at all. one of the key topics of the companies is tough measures against emigrants who flood the country. and sociology showed that, after all, the voter is more interested and worried about the economy, turkey has been at the peak of the financial and economic crisis in recent years, one of the most difficult recent history of the country. eh, lira , i can say that in the middle of the 2000s, and one dollar was worth one lira there. uh, 20 kurush now one dollar is about 20 lira, we can imagine, yes, what a scale and what a rate of inflation, it especially accelerated after 2017-2018. and by the way, this
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was due to the sanctions that were imposed on turkey by the western allies and the united states and a number of european countries, which imposed an embargo on the supply of dual- use technology, especially and froze cooperation in the technical field. well, and finally, sanctions in the energy sector, which initiated the european union and literally last fall, these sanctions have been extended. and that's the topic of sanctions, really. it sounds in turkey in two ways on the one hand. this is a question of how cooperation with russia will be arranged and how economically the potential of this cooperation will be realized, and on the other hand. this is actually an internal turkish topic, because these sanctions hit the national economy very painfully and hit the well-being of literally every turk very painfully, as far as the migrant agenda is concerned. well,
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look at the facts, and the number of migrants is only syrians. yes, but calculated from several million, and someone speaks of about four million, and then only seven. and this is understandable. why, because a huge number of migrants are not registered and now the flow of illegal migration will be very felt by the second point - this is a natural increase in the number of syrian refugees in the young population. e extremely fertile. and among the turks, the fertility rate has only been declining in recent decades, and naturally, without an influx of additional e-e migrants, the number of syrians increased by 300,350 people a day. this means that a number of areas, and a number
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of or in turkey are becoming more arabic and less turkish. there you can hear arabic more often than turkish. this extremely irritates the nationalist-minded or kktorat, and it even strains the kurt population, because it’s impossible to calmly speak kurmanji like that, as it turned out, you can speak arabic, by the way, uh, uh, that kemal kalovich is great statements after the first round, but began to pedal the anti-migrant, and the agenda is created, in my opinion, a number of risks for him, because on the eve of the elections there was a situation that the peoples' democracy party, which is often called the kursk party, did not nominate its candidate for the presidential elections.
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and i remember that in 2018, and such a candidate, but from the opposition and this party of democracy of the people, it was very charismatic, and the politician, if we want de slaughter, and the person who, with his magnetism, infects supporters and and in my opinion extremely promising, given the peculiarity of the political culture, turkey where charismatics just e and attract and achieve results. here, let's now about the most important thing for us. eh, we had a lot of turkish guests in our studio during the election campaign, and they all said about the same thing and that, of course, it’s a treasure trove of dar oglu e, to move to the west, but in principle, he is a moderately reasonable person. he understands the importance of russia . nothing will radically change. and suddenly, uh, a collage by the cattail takes, i would say, a rabid anti-russian position. what happened it seems to me that this is partly a reflection of what
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uh, the party he headed, uh , kemalkovich, dear, stupidly, tried to reformat the people's republican party a little, making it such an all- encompassing party that would be liked, but by a larger number. citizens of the republic than this was traditionally for the center-left parties, which people's republican party after the advent of the agevita bulletin there in the seventies was kemal kalovich, the gift of the corner brought, this is new in the strategy of the people's republican party, and it seems to me that this desire e to look like candidate from united opposition as a candidate from a party that has become much more inclusive than was typical of the irp. and the akimali kalych of the gift of the corner is pushing to make statements that, if we look at them in sequence, do not evoke a feeling of some kind of strict logic.
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kemal. nikolayevich dar oglu in the spring of 22 declares that you will put to a vote in parliament the issue of the liquidation of nato bases in turkey, so to speak, we will expel nato from our land. uh and kemal, casinoru blouse, is that here put we will support. and literally in a couple of months , kemalkovich, the gift of the corner, declares that he will support. eh, a pro-western course and one gets the feeling that on the one hand the isars are kemal. nikolaevich dara corner, er, who arrived in moscow at the end of april, me, presented his open letter from the russian public to the russian russian expert community, in which a very conciliatory tone is such, a restrained a and very caressing the russian ear. uh, that is to say xp and
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russian layman was formulated that yes, the value of russian strategic relations and strategic partnership in the whole khmer. so to speak, the sphere of importance. uh for turkey has enduring value. and if i come to power and become president, otherwise all this will continue. and they say to another audience they turn to another audience, kemal, kalovich, makes a gift to the corner, other accents. you know, this is generally called the word populism. erdogan is being blamed, but this is definitely populism. in my opinion. this is one of those e and moment features of the political culture of turkey a and what they used. uh, politicians, a, both right-wing and left-wing. yes, literally. in the sense of the word each political party after the transition to a competitive multi-party political
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system used populist rhetoric , the difference in the emotional and psychological portrait. e two candidates on the one hand a man who is willing to break. the foundations are ready. so to speak, to challenge even your western ally, the economic and military-strategic potential of which is an order of magnitude greater than that of turkey, and this is obvious for all kemalkovich, a gift to the corner of a person of the exact opposite nature. he is more, uh, inclined to find a compromise, but to look for some points of contact with the treaty. he doesn't raise his voice. he is so emotionless. although that's what he began to speak. uh, in such a snooty tone. uh, after uh, frankly speaking, not the best performance in the presidential elections in the first round of the presidential elections. we can say that he wants to show that yes, here he is, uh, not so
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harmless not with such, but a calm old man, how it, uh draw uh, and supporters and especially it is to focus, of course, opponents. in general, i understood. eh, classic. it always helps us. this is chatsky against molchalin , only a little older. well, yes, if you use incomprehensible there, well, well, we'll see soon. which popular one will win? thank you very much. our guest was pavel lykov thank you while in turkey they share the power of life stands still. on wednesday. erdogan announced the extension for another 2 months of the grain deal agreement on the safe export of agricultural products from ukrainian ports, he personally in a plus, but the russian requirements for lifting restrictions on the bank of fertilizer are not satisfied with another gesture. good will. received in july. a new scramble, when the grain agreements were negotiated more than a year
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ago, some saw them as heralding peace talks. it turned out, on the contrary, just since then, the topic of cessation of hostilities has not been raised any more, and in recent months , the degree of intransigence of steel , well , an underlying feeling is growing that the military situation has rested a couple of weeks ago, brazil now. i am willing and conducive. the ceasefire was declared almost simultaneously by the vatican and a group of african countries led by south africa, and respect for success is hard to believe, but there is a more detailed initiative for europe . events are not ordinary, primarily for the reason that
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china until recently eschewed complex diplomatic missions. yes his movements in february, the 12-point plan on the ukrainian crisis was perceived by beijing in the main as a ritual. however, it seems that the chinese authorities now regard diplomacy as a necessary tool for strengthening positions . they talked about this with two participants in the just concluded central asian conference of the club, valdai communities also have such a tourist such uh opinion that to make china more active and china hear. indeed, when almost a bid for world domination is expected from beijing, they strangely position their hut exclusively on the edge? china has already reached those dimensions when it understands that it cannot, firstly, be away from global processes, and moreover, this need is not only internal
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to china itself. well, the external one, where the outer world itself is gaining on it. yes, in the sense that the most powerful economy in the world, which is no longer the second in terms of parameters, but it is equal there with the first economy and even ahead, therefore the outside world itself. he's seriously pushing. yes, that is, we need a chinese position, we need chinese efforts. and it presses not only let's say countries are developing, which, well , often really see china as some kind of leader of the developing world, but also, uh, the smell of the ukrainian conflict. china, of course, worries, and geographically not so far away and growth is fraught with unpredictable consequences, it's time to decide. why only when when in yes here at the beginning here is the operation and the chinese 13 e because we created that if before that the bezels then there is a big risk, because everything will be there, that is, they say that especially in the west the strong are even stronger,
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for sure the critics . uh, china because they trying to say that china well caviar some kind of self-propelled role to get russia out of this process. eh, like well, pauses, yes, that is, eh, now i think that just emotions have already changed a little, so, uh, it’s just amazing that it’s not necessary to express a little, that is, uh, to immediately find such a way out of this crisis. and the most important thing is that you began to realize everyone, that is, if you need to start your interests, your positions, this is a conversation. of course, in beijing they would prefer not to take on too much, but everything is very fast is changing. the period of donald trump's rule, and especially the most important thing at the beginning of the uh covid-19 pandemic, china turned out to be, well, to a certain shock, when i saw that this situation was as externally favorable as possible,
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it changed and moreover, it turned out to be due to its here he also turned out to be equidistant from everyone without serious external political here, but powerful support, when he began to experience pressure from the united states, and the fact that the united states at the same time has a very powerful bloc of not just allies. ah countries that are ready to instantly connect with it even on such structures, anti-chinese structures, but it turned out to be very serious, so china realized that its silence is now playing against it and therefore participation in all these mediations is the use of its most powerful economy . for example, why was it interesting for the saudis of iran, china, and in general , participation is possible, well, because there is, the yuan, how serious it is. right now, here is a financial instrument politically one of the possible today, which at least somehow somewhere you can say so to protect yourself and
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those who are worried about the dollar in weaving are well aware that the russian ukrainian plot is incomparably more difficult than, for example, the iranian-saudi one, which was recently handled beautifully and, of course, china would like to share the responsibility, just like that, the restoration of the type of expansion between soorudian arapia and iran is just indicators. yes, the fact that the chinese e not only has some kind of vision offered. but still there, that is, more specifically. hey, it's flankers in ukrainian for now. now there still remains on the abstract field there, that is, ideas, because if we turn to history. uh, now there are outsiders, and the sentences around the nuclear north korean clothes and so on were noticed at the beginning of the three parties, and then and about the strength of the ukrainian crisis. why not start with some, that is, small
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multilateral formations, and then move on to e already in e big, that is, e sentence information. hand kim song, an opposition cartoonist who has been working for western publications as a diplomat since the 1980s. panda written chinese diplomacy everything is clear without words italian emmanuel del rossa another diplomatic clash between beijing and washington on the ball, and written us-china relations. the answer is the chinese global times of the osian countries, on the way to china, an american tank got stuck in a puddle of sanctions, so it is written in the picture and a person similar to biden says, push patrick chapat and switzerland tiktok, like a spy tool of the chinese special services, another dance video with a real
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one screams of the soldiers and i will kill myself. how hostilities last longer the topic is more acute questions of expediency started talking again about freezing, as on the korean peninsula 70 years ago by the way, when the impasse on the fronts became clear, the diplomat involved rather exotic mediators. as a result , the war ended. this stop without a peace treaty continues to this day , after the advertisement, we will talk about how they generally get out of acute international crises. what does the experience of the relatively recent past teach nationalist organizations appeared immediately after the acquisition of ukraine
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