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[000:00:00;00] georgy arbatov, brought up a whole generation of brilliant specialists, and he himself belonged to a bunch of prominent international specialists of the last soviet decades nikolai inozemtseva alexander buvin evgeny primakov valentin zorin fyodor burlatsky and others they had a paradoxical time in all the formal signs of the ussr was at the peak of geopolitical and military power, however, the system was experiencing growing problems not only of an economic but also of an ideological nature, the lack of internal flexibility affected the ability to continue military and political competition between
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the united states. artifacts of that in its own way sparkling era will be recalled by sofya sergeeva and culture in the first 15 days it was visited by half a million people, the americans were shown all the most modern models of soviet satellites and missiles miracle technology. the world's first nuclear-powered icebreaker. lenin and the model of the passenger tu-114, which transported the soviet delegation. across the ocean the plane was so large that there was no suitable ladder at the airport. compete let's compete. yes , it will give more goods to the people for the system. it's better, yes, to win, a month later sokolniki opened an american exhibition headed by the delegation of richard nixon, then vice president. this competition will serve the good of our peoples. we must
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exchange ideas freely, for a six-week exhibition visited by almost 3 million people and its exhibits were the best advertisements for capitalism, housewives were amazed by combines and dishwashers, and men sparkling with thunder car for the chevrolet impala exhibition were cut in half so that visitors could see everything and the v8 version of the device was the most expensive in the lineup , and the onion's advertising slogan read. a luxury car for every american answered the job with soda , and nixon watched khrushchev closely while tasting. and nikita sergeevich himself, ignorant became the face of an american advertising campaign. anikson, who was fed up with pepsi and french fries at home, was taken to a barbecue, which was solemnly opened specially for the second time
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. it was such a delicious dinner. here, in fact, everything that we have on the table right now. here is borsch, our here is such a broad soul, of course borsch is necessarily sour cream. and, accordingly , kebabs, because this kebab house is legendary, more than 60 years have passed as such an institution, and even today the kebab house is popular even in other parts of moscow and from other cities here elementary barbecue 57. and there we know we know this story. although relations remained strained in the early sixties, khrushchev and kennedy exchanged gifts for the wife of the american president. jacqueline was presented with a puppy of the famous arrow, flying into space, a living hint of our leadership. but even ordinary americans understood this sound to mean that the soviet union was capable of launching not only satellites, but also nuclear missiles for the first time americans felt defenseless. although i did not know that the ratio of strategic nuclear forces were not in our favor and the cold war,
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bitch, had to put the situation in equal danger. such an attempt was made during the caribbean crisis. operation anadyr the soviet union deployed r12 missiles tactical nuclear weapons and kennedy and nikita sergeevich khrushchev had the good sense to stop at the edge of nuclear insanity. they realized that further steps to escalate. impossible cannot lead to big trouble after the caribbean crisis under brezhnev. learned how to avoid sharp corners often helped recommendations institute of the usa and canada, founded by georgy arbatov, the father of soviet american studies. i would say that the americans for their politics, which they feel the need for such an enemy, just like you know
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the phonetic preachers need, they need pure strength. i said we'll do the worst we can for you. it’s different until now, when in the seventies we finally reached parity , the leaders, the superpowers, become almost friends, knowing that leonid ilyich is fond of cars in the seventy-third nixon gave him lincoln continental brezhnev he was delighted to sit the american president next to him and sped off, leaving a blue short two-door car on the side of the side of the perplexed guard. he was straight, indeed. as i understand it, a good gift and gave what gives a sports car. this adrenaline is joy. this is the casendrov. i said a phrase about the fact that e is a politician, maybe not a very strong powerful one. well that's how he driver uh yes from the forum of a professional racer. m. brezhnev and nixon met again when 35 countries in helsinki
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signed the historic act that laid foundation. the building of european security has changed a lot since then. finland managed to abandon neutrality and joined nato , and this status corresponds to other architectural techniques. just the other day, the finns fenced themselves off from russia with sophia's garden fence sergey truskov. dmitry matrosov international review. two fundamental concepts of international detente and arms control are associated with the name of georgy arbatov. the fear of nuclear annihilation made us look for ways to prevent this threat against the backdrop of an acute international crisis. it's good to remember today. and what was détente in general, heartfelt consent was not there.
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detente and arms control risk management through diplomacy is based on the recognition that there are deep irreconcilable differences between states, in order to manage them to find common ground where they are possible, it is necessary to recognize that the contradiction is inevitable. it has nothing in common with goodwill. on the contrary, hostility is implied by itself, but does not imply, for example, the current american concept of the struggle of the great powers, as the main driving forces, detente is based on the recognition of the status quo, which may not be satisfactory, nevertheless, a decision is made to maintain such a status quo and don't try to change it don't seek hegemony dominance, essentially détente - this is the desire to put aside what political theorists call the security dilemma. at the end in the 1960s and early 1970s, several incentives prompted us to think about reducing tensions in terms of these
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objective underlying factors. this is a little secret. this is the achievement of military-strategic parity in the united states after the breakthrough of our great sixties, which created a margin of safety in ensuring the country's security and increased the kremlin's interest then in stabilizing the situation, stabilizing the arms race on a reciprocal basis to save power and prevent uncontrolled arms races, a certain balance was achieved between the wto and nato, which allowed soviet diplomacy to fix its cherished goal of fixing, uh, the post-war status quo, but if you look at the american shift at what causes it, the united states here, too, parity. uh, military-strategic uh,
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played an important role, because it became clear to the americans that the further continuation of a linear uncontrolled arms race. first of all, it's dangerous. second, it doesn't make sense by then this situation of the current mutually assured destruction appeared outside the limits, which are further building up. that is, each side could respond to a nuclear fall, could not defeat it in this parallel to the first detente in the ussr , they actually curtailed attempts at internal economic reforms. so the economic factor played a significant role if our preparatory working materials for preparation were greek. themselves a soviet-american seventy-second year. in its economic trade part a is the preparation of the trade agreements. this is a whole complex of other agreements that were signed in moscow in 1972, and i was
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greatly impressed. how seriously the soviet side then took this aspect to this aspect, all the ministries, specialized departments , they created their applications, considerations, a big plan was drawn up for the general development of these relations, but we know that it was in the direction of western europe, this was, of course, a massive breakthrough of our energy resources of western europe also this one too same period. maybe, with regard to the united states, what was envisaged, well, in addition to signing a trade agreement with the most favorable regime, it was envisaged to develop trade economic relations , including american investment in technology e, industries such as the fuel and energy complex, for example, it was planned to build a separate gas pipeline, tyumen murmansk with a builder with the construction of a whole plant near murmansk.
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and only american investments in this project were to amount to $ 5 billion. by those times. this is a lot of money. in addition, it was even about joint ventures of the soviet american, and joint projects, the developing world. so even a schedule was drawn up, approximate approximate, of course, of payments and receipts, which these new relations were supposed to bring with specific figures so that already in the thousands. yes the plans covered the period. so, the seventy-second to the ninety-eighth year is in the ninetieth year. uh, the soviet union had to go out of their way in these respects. eh, given that that had to be reckoned with, because for the old debts. so our export to america was still quite limited. so the balance was external trade in ours later, but, nevertheless,
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even so, i believed that the benefits of this cooperation would exceed the overhead costs. and now, in 1990, there will already be a net dividend for the soviet soviet treasury. that's so far. then the plans of the soviet leadership came in. the us had its own reasons to seek appeasement plus, of course, the vietnam war. this is a very important factor in us war strained the resources of the united states did not lead to victory led to a situation of such imperial overstretch. uh, who also demanded to unload and bring american obligations into line with their limited limited capabilities. moreover, a powerful anti-war movement has emerged in the country, which has essentially turned into a movement against global anti-communism and
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militarism. and this movement captured part of the political class. that collapsed this consensus during the cold war arose serious restrictions on the continuation of the course of military intervention abroad. congress. reduced military spending. forbidding the operations of us intelligence agencies abroad , criticism grew in society. all this complex and the military-industrial complex of the cia of the special services of this entire state of national security, that is, on the american society, in fact, did not want to contribute. further time. this is the american empire and their son's senger. of course i had to with these accounts. however, already in the second half of the seventies , detente began to fizzle out rapidly. why so soon, first of all, the turn to a very ideologized
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human rights policy, which was guided by president james carter carter, in fact, rejected realpolitik in favor of values, and this became a sentence for any efforts that were made as part of the detente of the united states. the main thing was that the soviet union was even more degree will become a status quo power will cease to be engaged in the spread of its influence in different ways in the third world will behave. so to say more restrained responsibly. here in exchange for those gingerbread, which the americans the americans offered us ah. the soviet union the then soviet leadership saw détente as a change even further. they were seen as the result of a new balance of power in the world. yes, we became equal to the americans in power, so hmm , detente for the soviet leadership of that time was not considered to me as a fixation, so to speak, from this as an eternal situation. uh, she was seen as a chance to
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further strengthen the world positions of the soviet union. especially since the west as a whole was from the united states at that time were in a folded position. this is an economic world economic crisis. ah, its harbingers. this even means, of course, the defeat of the united states in vietnam and their children have a political retreat. that's all. this created a temptation to use this weakening of the west and the weakening of the americans to further strengthen, so to speak , soviet penetration, all the carrots that they offered us saw new trade economic relations and which was very important for the soviet leadership. after all, they also did not take place in the well-known notorious the jackson venik amendment, which essentially killed the signing of the trade ratification of the trade agreement and the most favorable treatment, was also the stevenson amendment
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, which essentially blocked the provision of loans, without which the development of these relations was impossible. 50 years ago and today the key issue of any change in the nature of relationships. to what extent do the parties trust each other and themselves, i.e. within their own societies the fear factor is the main one and now it is relevant, because we are flirting with matters that were the content of the cuban missile crisis reagan's phrase trust but verify is an elegant way to say, i don't trust you at all don't say this in the forehead is a very important reason than the devil forgets. and the downside of the discharge was that she had not had enough to say to him. if it is national, first of all, not in the soviet union, not especially in the united states
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. a couple of these comrades pursued this new policy, departments and the pentagon and even the state department , on the one hand, it provided such a quick breakthrough, the maneuverability of the then washington diplomacy, but on the other hand, it turned out to be worth a little weaken. there already nikshin as a result in the studio. yes, this already begins in the whole family from the third year, how, uh, these departments, bypassed by the white house, began to take. revenge and congress with these amendments, which can be spoken of and the pentagon the military did not agree to the preservation and freezing of this parity in the soviet union and public opinion, to which this policy, in general, the realism of the balance of power, which was carried out by mixing and silence, turned out to be too immoral, but something similar
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happened in the soviet union, although it happened on a smaller scale and here it is that brezhnev began to lose his capacity, although he retained, like m-m, as the position in the system of power. it starts somewhere in the seventy-fourth year, with a meeting in vladivostok, he obviously was no longer the same series of control of interest, uh, to his favorite brainchild, which was used, of course, by other departments that also had their interests. it is not known that the military military were not enthusiastic. from uh even very, very. here are two that have already loomed. well, uh, but the cominternists from the international department of the central committee by that time had not yet parted with the illusion that the fate of the world would be decided in the developing world, this non-capitalist path of development with soviet help would lead to our victory in the cold war, a question that is impossible not to ask, looking at what is happening
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around. is there a chance for something like a discharge, now normal diplomacy between major countries, which should be based on the awareness and recognition of mutual interests. after the end of the cold war, the united states became the sole superpower. they decided that it is not necessary to pay attention to the concerns and interests of countries like russia, but this excludes the very possibility of a discharge , respect for the opposite side is needed. what is not now is my conclusion. if we survive those dances with death that we are doing now. we will probably rediscover c. i'm afraid of detente, only up to we will get over this, the other options and life will severely punish us for our current behavior. yuri arbatova died in 2010. the political dynamics of the 21st century worried her very much that we could approach a more
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dangerous period than the cold war. danger looms ahead 2 years ago, this was unthinkable. and now i can say, he was in an interview 2 years before his death of the experience and intellect of the statesmen of his generation. now it is clearly not enough. on the other hand. the world has changed so much that, perhaps, those recipes will not be applicable, the same age as arbatov, still living henry kinchenger. it hits him that a week later he noticed in an interview with the magazine icons on the eve of the anniversary. it's time to recognize this is a whole new world. and no matter what we do, it may not turn out as planned, there is no line of behavior that would give the desired result with a guarantee. somewhat depressing. well , at least, honestly, it was an international
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shakespeare's cunning sign of four with this case. our broadcast will continue the documentary film operation ukraine american trace, you will find out some soviet operations were prepared by the united states in ukraine how agents of influence were introduced there and frankly russophobic educational programs were sponsored. e, which eventually led to the coup d'etat of the fourteenth year and the bloody war in
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donbass . the grieving mother and the monument to the victims developed very quickly. the tendencies are such that e, with these people in several luhansk regions, they generally talked to them. nothing. they are like dust and dirt. we want to live like a human being, we don’t have to live now, or lie down, i have nowhere to talk with them at all. they need
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stupidly, as they said to drive into a stall. it's genocide, it's completely murder. m level offer some citizens from others. well, how did it happen that in the third decade of the 21st century, nazism could turn into the main
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ideology of the whole state, and who helped this process for decades? 1944 western ukraine, during the retreat of wehrmacht units, military intelligence of the third reich orders ukrainian collaborators to delay the offensive of the red army with the help of sabotage hides the ukrainian population its connection with the german bandera’s military and civil authorities, in fact, act under the dictation of the germans, receiving weapons, uniforms and other military property from them for this , intensified hostilities against the red army and soviet partisans, intensified terror against ukrainians who sympathize with the soviet government, send gangs to the rear of the red army . upa for subversive and intelligence

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