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hello in the studio ekaterina gracheva this is a church program and we are on the russia 24 channel weekly. we interview representatives of the russian orthodox church and comment on current news. today my guest is archpriest alexandra abramov , rector of the church of st. sergei of radonezh in the wrens and secretary of the synodal commission on bioethics of the russian orthodox church. hello, i'm glad to welcome you to the studio

, father alexander, i would like to start with your recent trip to new territories. tell me how long it lasted where exactly you were. well, start with your impressions in general, as a person, as a priest, what did you see, what did the soldiers say, what settings do they have, what is their fighting spirit, one of the most threatened areas of one of the uh most important areas in a special military operation. this is the zaporozhye direction , and it so happened that i have already been there and i would very much like to go there again. to support our soldiers, therefore, i went along with my companions , the moscow clergy, to the zaporozhye region in the part that occupies a very large line there. in

fact, several hundred kilometers throughout the entire region from west to east and in the liberated territories of peaceful distant here is the front. since it is already possible to compare with something that was before, i will say that the intensification of the conflict is felt, it is felt that the enemy is somehow preparing, that he is strengthening, that some kind of preparation is not very good. i understand why they talk about a counter-offensive from the ukrainian side is very felt, but what touched me. then it touches now. this is very in general, difficult psychologically, sometimes

even i would say. the unbearable conditions of the front, because this is a colossal stress for any human organism of any human of the psyche, that then, that now is a very collected spirit, and not frightened, not at all panicky, but certainly strong , and they make the greatest impression on me, and the volunteers in the regular army are those people who, like me, of the same age , can also be like and i'm uh overweight, and quite civil, but they chose for themselves. to go and defend from russia and there they fight , acquire or remember their former military specialties, very hard, very collected, we came to one. uh, command point to meet those people we

have seen before. it is generally accepted in such situations that the face is not caught on camera for obvious security reasons. he says, can you take pictures of me and my face? i don't do anything wrong. i am protecting my country. i stand up for her completely clear and just interests, and i can hide my face under all kinds of balaclavas and so on. we are doing the right thing, and me and my companions. eh, i must say it was very touching, because such a conviction, you know, not a conviction on camera is not advertising or propaganda, but the real one hurts you very much, because it is

genuine. and we met it , we met it people, some say, well, why do you go there, everyone will be afraid to die there, and therefore they need to reinforce their fighting spirit in any way. here i have absolutely no such feeling that people reinforce their fighting spirit from magical considerations. approaching death. there is a fear of death among soldiers, but all there is a fear of death you and i have a fear of death. naturally. it would be strange if we didn’t have it, because no one has the experience of death, if we experienced it, and then we would remember it as the experience of riding a bicycle, then it would be a completely different matter, but everyone has the same death. naturally. all people are afraid of the other. so i was a fresh person and new there. i still very rarely find myself in front-line circumstances, compared with fighters. here are the gaps occur close. i'm so flinch

instinctively. they no longer flinch. this is their routine this everyday existence. this does not mean that they e are being rebuilt on the rails of some kind of insane fatalism and without participation. of course not, everyone wants to live, but when someone is baptized, someone takes communion, someone confesses. it's not a magical choice, it's not a choice of fear. it is the choice of understanding. i think, even if sometimes in its infancy, sometimes quite consciously, this is a choice of understanding that there is god and in many circumstances, only he, but not your starovka and not your preparedness can save and save you and strengthen the feeling that you are doing the right thing, because if you are the collapse of all the mercenary armies of the world at all stages of its

history, the mercenary is somehow motivated only by money. for money, you can ah, fight, for money, you can even achieve some success, but in an existential situation, money or life, you choose from life. this probably happens instinctively, so all a-a such historical examples known to us speak of the fact that people who can and can fight win and survive. to give life, what are the moods of the civilian population in zaporizhia with someone you managed to talk. we have been in many places, we were in the two largest cities of the zaporozhye region in the liberated territories. this marks the time of the capital of the zaporozhye region and berdyansk made a very strong impression on me. uh made a visit to the azov state pedagogical university. this is actually the former

berdyansk men's gymnasium. she over time became a teacher's college. now it is federal , and the university i thought that i imagine the nature of the conflict well, but i realized that we were not completely taken to the library and in this library there were huge shelves from the ceiling. there may be six meters there, as they built pre-revolutionary publications and many rare books, many very valuable pre-revolutionary publications. very famous people of our country studied or taught there, including, for example, the famous soviet science fiction writer ivan efremov, who was also a scientist and there are huge holes. here are the holes for them. no, books are coming to them again, he asked me what kind of holes they were, huh? it turns out that even in the first half of the nineties. removed and destroyed. uh, a russian edition, and, well, such

a seemingly harmless russian edition of gogol 's russian edition of pushkin's, that's how strong the ideological such an evil stream was, and to break everything, eliminate it, destroy it and replace it. and what to replace and replace nothing . here is a gaping void. that's what it is such an image of this replacement. here we, with my companion, with father andrei milkin, a moscow priest, read a lecture for students of about 200 people. in the hall, all the teachers did not drive anyone away, rather, the problem was to ensure safety from different e, attempts to blow something up there , shoot someone or some kind of provocation, the student did not drive anyone away, and i expected that the conversation was mainly touches. the nature of what is happening in what is the position of russia in

what is the position? who is ukraine, who is right? and nothing this was not the case, because for these people who live all the time, and under the conditions of continuous threat, he took a russian passport as a threat, agreed to study in the russian node as a threat. that's all. conscious choice. we underestimate. this is a conflict in nature for them. all clear. they want to be with their country with russia, they want to return, when we hear here in moscow our own harbor. it may seem that there, and there it is quite clear and filled with an image of some kind of question, and there were such as they would be in the moscow student audience lighting, as bloggers, and the opposition of the church about artificial intelligence, and the future of science about something else. i mean, these are people. these are our students in our country talking about the same thing. what is interesting to know about their peers here, so uh, well, only they have to do it all in

conditions of colossal danger. well, here is the continuation of the theme of the war with history with the russian language in particular. how do you feel about a new round of this war to a new battle proposal. uh, instead of may 9 , zelensky's proposal to celebrate europe day on may 8, poland renamed kaliningrad to krovitsa, and the region in krovitskaya according to a new survey, 85% of ukrainians even believe that the soviet union fought on the side of germany . do you think this new attack on history will bear fruit? well, in a sense, there are already fruits , since 85% of the people managed to litter e brains, but it is to be considered that the soviet union, of which soviet ukraine was a part, fought on the side of germany, but this must be very hard to loosen. uh, brain matter,

but in general, of course, this demonstrates helplessness helplessness and inability e to navigate the realities, but poland can just as well rename the moon. only some attitude will have reality. well, now you renamed it. hmm for whom the step is only for internal use, because they say, so to speak, not diplomatic. and i'm drawing you. it will be idiots for the outside world, as it were with us already with the baltic states, tallinn should be pronounced and read and written with two l with two n. well, before, how it was and somehow coped and somehow lived, and this war of symbols. first of all, this is a war on nerves and a war for those who don’t know anything, if you don’t know anything from the history

of the second world war, they slip you a name , we tell you that this is not kaliningrad to round up. well, you are so far away, just let's go or lvov alemberg, for example, and one of the revanchist germans. maybe, of course, there is no more, and there is a general government. there are quite a few neo-fascists in modern germany. here you are proposing instead of victory day . well, you don’t want to name the great patriotic war great patriotic war, although it is very strange, but you are the fact of the existence of the second world war. can't deny. well, why do you avoid memorial day so much, but for us it is connected with the victory of the nazis , you are ashamed of the victory over the nazis. why are you demolishing the monument is a case, we even saw that there were almost graves, here. a-a soldier who took part in the liberation. e ukraine liberation of poland and then we unnecessarily bags. but generally speaking,

the poles would have to take it and shut up in the forms of how many soviet soldiers , including soviet ukrainians, died during the liberation of poland , a picture is now looming in their honey heads, according to which the soviet union is a new enslavement, but something in the forty-fifth year. they basically did not say this, but on the contrary, they met us. e, as liberators, and if it weren’t for the soviet union , which e promoted because, in order to quickly come to the aid of the warsaw you, who have become it is still unknown what, generally speaking, would be from the polish statehood and with the capital of this state, therefore the only reasonable answer here would be the facts. whoever wants to hear this fact will hear them, but there is the truth of god, sooner or

later it will return to its place, and fools will call scoundrels fools scoundrels, and manipulators manipulators. nothing new here. no, here we need to make a reservation that i don’t know the beginning of historical questions, a graduate of the faculty of history of moscow state university and my next question concerns our other neighbor georgia against the backdrop of the news that russia decided to resume direct flights to the west - this was taken with hostility, and demands from georgia not to accept russian planes. uh, how do you feel about this step taken by moscow towards rapprochement with georgia, we generally need it let's proceed. uh, from what the interest of the state. this is the interest of his people. and the state exists in order to defend and embody the national

interest, that is, interest. the nation, our people loves georgia, the answer is obvious. our people love breastfeeding. we love to be there, we love to be there, we love to relax there. we love to vacation there. we like georgian culture. yes we like we like, georgian cuisine is overwhelming. we have national dishes. there was always barbecue. we no longer think at all that it is of georgian origin. we have this at every dacha, please. and uh, and naturally, when the russian side reciprocates the fact that georgians do not require us visas. it seems to me that this is just a gesture of politeness, it is completely and natural, but it is important not to confuse georgians living in russia and georgians living in georgia, we saw everything perfectly and we know that in a number of establishments you will not be served at all if you speak russian, and if we talk about the interests of the people, but there are already such

dissatisfied criticisms related to the fact that in this way we are delaying , say, the tourist flow with these flights, from the same crimea, which will be the first to suffer from when this direct message opens on cars. people will no longer travel 2,000 km to get to the crimea, but this argument seems to be very far-fetched. ah, you just have to look at reality, of course, of course, some insignificant part of the georgian population in georgia had anti-russian sentiments. well, so that we just need to remember vakhtango kikabidze with his cavernous russophobic mood , despite the fact that he became known, like all allied artists, only because he played in films in russian and sang songs in russian , including had georgian restaurants in moscow and so on. it's all very

comical. in fact, the main listen, we will also remember saakashvili, who is now sitting not in russia, but in a georgian prison the main conductor of russophobic sentiments. i am convinced. what hmm what the bulk of the people of georgia picked up to us from one that's really who got excited seriously. uh, so these are people who moved from our country, especially after the announcement of mobilization during a special military operation and, uh, worried that this would not affect their interests, but it is precisely the interests of, uh, georgia and the georgian people that are completely indifferent to them i wonder how this will affect their fate and in various publics of people who have resorted to the so-called locations such anxiety to view the more. we will have places. where can we eat and rest. be it, georgia. be it crimea, uh, so much the better. and what if we turn

crimea into a monopoly place of rest, then, like any monopoly, i welcome father alexander to a decrease in the quality of rest well, now the question, in your direct line, means specialization in the russian orthodox church, the question of biotech, the great specialization of the russian orthodox church be a priest. this goes without saying, but, nevertheless, it is you who is the secretary this commission in the roc of great britain announced the first successful experiment, which means that a child was born from three parents, and they say that the purpose of this experiment was to exclude hereditary genetic diseases from the child. i don’t know how this formula works, so the trinity works. uh, but so the baby was born healthy, and how did you react to the news? and it seems that this is not the first child, it seems that about five couples had

a child through eco in this way. but you see hmm what is the technological world the technological world is a world in which all attention is paid to the essence of technology. look, here we are. and we take a donor woman, and place the egg cell of biological matter in an empty e, extracted by the nucleus of the donor woman's egg cell, her mitochondria do not carry the danger of a genetic disease, like the mother's mitochondria, and as a result, we have somewhere around 0.2% of the genes , something about 40, as they say 02% of the genes will be the genes of the third donor, and everyone is starting, so the occasion to enter into such excitement and excitement. but what if the truth is we get rid of a certain amount genetic diseases, but it's a bit

02% of all leave the issue of technology. and here i am, for example, thinking about what is essential. uh, a more important question, but 0.2%, and the genes do not belong to you and not to your husband. it's definitely not enough. and if they contain all the salt, and what is your observational history of 20 30 40 100 years? how can you say about the effectiveness of the method? ah, when you don’t even have, well, a clinical picture observation is , as you know, you come to some university, we have a university with an ancient tradition, he is already 30 years old, when he will be 300 then we can talk about the ancient tradition. it's the same here, and as a result, people run around with these new inventions. for now , not even in any way, uh savage with a club. and like

a savage with an atomic bomb, because the basic principle of a doctor is do no harm. you can’t say anything yet, just a small other example was the colossal hype around drugs that supposedly helped heal spinal muscular atrophy of the smata , these drugs were considered the most expensive in the world. well, 2 million dollars, and one injection and another auxiliary drug is cheaper, but it also cost a lot, then gradually already on the brakes and already somewhere in the last columns of newspapers and others, they first became clear in the media that the drug does not give an absolute guarantee that it has a lot of side effects, that, damn, cases, it generally does not affect in any way, but this is no longer important focus of society. vennoy's attention shifted to hotter topics. now here is a more hot topic three parents and

the goal is announced, it seems to be a very merciful humanistic issue to get rid of genetic diseases. are you sure, that you get rid of one and not acquire another? why more bad so i think that well, for the church there is no other answer here than the following. relationship child - is the one who is the fruit of the relationship of a man and a woman husband and wife no participation. a third party is impossible here, and no matter how you justify it. here we have such genetic support for us, there cannot be any genetic support. this is the view of scripture and the church. naturally, will support him all the time and invite people. in order to relate to motherhood when god's, but also to fucked up, as

a special form of god's blessing thank you very much, father alexander for this interesting conversation. i wanted to tickle the nerves of vices, they do not crawl out of the khitrovsky slums with gilyarovsky , we bend fearlessly. and now keep your pockets cleaned out in an instant, and the killer could still flog hours with a knife, they will find a criminal on themselves.

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vladimir putin congratulated russian soldiers on liberation of artyomovsk and as reported in the presidential press service. i will quote the head of state congratulated the wagner assault detachments as well as all the russian fighters who provided them with the necessary support and flank cover. end of quote. the kremlin also responded by noting that all those who distinguished themselves would be presented for state awards. the battle for artyomovsk became one of the largest in the course of the liberation of donbass , and then, as the operation was practically a city of militants, our correspondents alexander evstigneev and mikhail andronikov. more on saturday morning , artillery shells fly over artyomovsk towards the enemy.