[000:00:00;00] the deity of small companies that fail to establish interaction with big business, until big business is interested in the products and services of small business, small companies will not be able to pull themselves up and reach a new level, which is why an impulse is needed to expand cooperation, which will be beneficial to all participants. we are aware of the declaration on the interaction of small and large businesses and fully support this initiative, but mikhail vladimirovich it is very important that as many large companies as possible get involved in this work not on words, but in deeds. i also think that support and motivation from the regional authorities is needed, and it is important to conduct this work openly. well, for example, uh, metalloinvest published its needs on the same sme digital platform. we responded to the russian federation and today we are conducting a dialogue on

the supply of components for mining equipment for them. also thanks to the platform. we have started contacts with foreign e-customers, in particular from belarus, so mikhail vladimirovich i would very much like the state to stimulate business big business actively work with us. and we are ready to go. we are ready for a big job. we are ready to grow with me , thank you. thanks a lot. i absolutely agree with you here, a lot has been done. i still remember igor ivanovich valov, when we conducted commissions quite a long time ago we went on interest. how much large enterprises owe. e, as a matter of fact, the volumes e of their products are concluded by interaction with small ones and that's it. it is now already 25% and in fact. and of course , it is big business that is interested in supply, especially in the current difficult

time of presentational pressure can provide long-term demand. this is a very important element in the development of any business under which you can take loans and support forums and engage in long-term projects. well, the second point is the competence of technology, the corresponding competences that large enterprises have personnel. and this is also a very important element in order for such a partnership to take place. and on the interaction radio, i see, as i understand it . there were, uh, nuances to this declaration in your question. let's see what else can be worked out for interaction and let's foreigners. if we consider this, but i would like to support what you are saying, first of all, turn to the large enterprises themselves, which are the main , so to speak, beneficiaries of the quality of work of small and medium-sized businesses, but also turn to

public accusations against the regions. and to support this project. eh, i think it's very important to support such an initiative, and i think that there is a good future here. if there is more uh, some documents that you could give us to look at, including the declaration of everything, but you would ask for the transfer through the maximum of gennadievich, okay? please, we have the next speaker , yuri mikhailovich shilov, director of the ivanovo textile company, please, yuri mikhailovich dear colleagues. a dear mikhail vladimirovich yuri shilov a. evan textile company own company. ah, with twenty-two years of production. and we produce, uh, roskosmos, and parking lots for parking lots in moscow to yandex and savings before all in all, i would like to thank the governments for uh, various financial instruments and support measures, and preferential loans, and

guarantee products and especially the investment loan program at 2 1/2 and 4% per annum , this has never happened before. and this motivates us. and to develop production right now. and we are going to enter new markets, including taking on some new import substitution projects. and over the past year, we have twice taken advantage of state support measures, the first time in may. and when we even we did not expect that we would need support here, but we were able to refinance a loan from a japanese bank, which raised the rate to twenty-six percent, and we stopped production and we lost people at 10 and a half percent, but there is no russian bank, and this was our first. and literally. we recently received financing from another bank at 80 to 80 million under

the umbrella guarantee of the sme corporation, which is surprising , we didn’t even notice initially that we were going under support, that is, in the process we filled out the documents. it was very comfortably. this is not for support. this for us, this is unusual for entrepreneurs. mikhail vladimirovich, first of all, and i would like to ask that all existing support measures, they continue there until 2030 or as far as possible, that is, and first of all, in this program, which is 2.5 e 4% per annum, and this is important for us for long-term planning, and for our investments in production, because production needs a long period when we can pay it back, but for the real sector economics for industrialists. and i propose to launch a separate, but an umbrella mechanism, and with an increased level, because a number of collectors do not now pass under the criteria that are set by the government, but by the bank. everything german that you think about this,

in case of loss, the banks will go for it. anyway , the system of risk analysis of banks, it is, let's say , quite stable, especially if an advanced bank is seriously involved in this, then here are the elements of this analysis. is it possible in some way, let's say, to make it easier from the point view of what a colleague suggested. i think, let's work on the basis of this example , let's see, see if the system can solve this problem? thank you, i'm yuri mikhailovich, i think that in general, uh, stimulation of inactivity and, uh, growth in the number of smes, through concessional financing. it's like, if you like, the backbone line, uh, sme support. and today without a doubt. it is necessary to do this with regard to a special program of preferential lending, but truly unprecedented and unique. well

, that is, here are 2.5% and four percent is a. this means tourism logistics and industry. yes, so to speak, the main types of economic activity that we supported, uh, so here, uh, first of all, there is a high demand for the entire line of absolutely all programs with these rates. i want to ask, uh, here uh, that means the ministry of finance or drevlyan, and here okladnikov, together with colleagues and maxim gennadievich, consider extending this issue, of course. e, primarily related to resources with finances. we have a difficult situation with this, but it is necessary we need to look at how to extend and especially use, including guarantee mechanisms , completely different guarantee mechanisms and state guarantees, personal guarantees and swaps need to be worked on. here are all the resources. as they say, good and let's also put separate questions so that we can get closer to this, i will also ask you to connect here, please,

add to it there. a please please, but please see that from the point of view of few banks they are very smart, a and here is one of the uh, support measures we received just through small bank. i mean, it was very fast. so let's do it igor alievich bukharov president of the federation of atelier restaurants of russia on removing barriers to the growth of small and medium-sized businesses, please, good afternoon colleagues, dear mikhail vladimirovich dear colleagues, one of the reasons for the lack of development of existing smes is a significant increasing tax and reporting burden on business . in case of loss of rights, apply a special tax regime. so 2 years ago, the government supported our initiative to launch an experiment on transitional tax regime for public catering enterprises. so, within the framework of the experiment, exemption from vat is provided if the revenue does not exceed 2 billion, then within the framework of the experiment. we are in constant contact with the federal tax service and ensure the fulfillment of our obligations, while the participants in the experiment observe a kind of

key indicators of revenue. wage fund , average wages number of employees, but it must be said that such a problem of barriers rose is associated with a sharp increase in the tax burden during the transition threshold values ​​for tax regimes are characteristic not only for public catering enterprises. apparently, this colleagues and related industries the service industry is hotels fitness. all this is connected with the tourism project and in this regard, we propose to consider the possibility of extending such a tax regime to other industries, or to introduce a special tax regime for an enterprise i spend the right to the simplified tax system. the next question i would like to separately note that from july 1, 23, sugar-containing drinks will be attributed to the production of excisable goods and representatives of small and medium-sized businesses that produce sugar containing drinks are deprived of financial measures, state support support and, together with them, under such restrictions, we are subject to hotel e, catering businesses, which, among other things, sell such products under excise duty.

in addition, in this the period of validity of the norms introduced during the period of covid restrictions that allow hotels, restaurants selling phenol, alcohol and tobacco products to qualify for state support measures will expire this year. here, in order to support such industries suggest considering maintaining access to financial support measures for the sugar-sweetened beverage manufacturer and hospitality foodservice entrepreneurs selling across the nation. in addition, i would like to note that annually, on average, about 35,000 smes are created. uh, in the catering industry of the hotel business. this is where projecturism comes into play. uh, at the initial stage of activity for them, the new tax regime can be very much in demand. auto- automatic simplified system alcohol taxation for micro-enterprises, the number of employees is up to five people, uh, it was launched on july 1, 22 in moscow and the moscow kalosha regions of the republic of tatarstan, such a tax regime helps businesses at the initial stage significantly

reduce the reporting burden. we propose to expand the territorial coverage of the experiment to provide an opportunity for taxpayers to switch to the application of the simplified tax system during the calendar damage. in addition, at the moment there is a ban on the application of such a tax regime. entrepreneurs who carry out their activities through agency agreements commission agreements through aggregators. these are all marketplaces. we use it. today , ceferization is underway, in connection with this, we propose to extend the actions of the simplified tax system to such taxpayers. thank you, yes, thank you, but here yuryevich i am grateful, among other things , to the work that you are doing with your colleagues and the position that you have been discussing all the time. it u was expressed at numerous meetings, including the position of all uh, which means united your association is not important entrepreneurs who are associated with public catering. but you see that the most important thing is that all key indicators of revenue after the adoption of this law. a-a,

connected with the possibility not to pay vat, yes, yes, two variants of rubles with a decrease, but the rates of insurance premiums. e up to 15%. further. in principle, a very very good result. and this is very good for the industry in terms of spreading it to other types of economic activity. in particular. you suggested extending it to hotels , fitness clubs, they think it's possible, but everything needs to be thought through very carefully, that is, here i would ask the ministry of finance to the ministry of economy. in development and the federal tax service, look at e together, such enterprises are all reasonable here, if there are relevant problems, colleagues who are involved in this, because you remember the main problems were getting a deduction when buying a huge number of e nuances related to the activity itself uh cafe. uh, so i’ll tell you one more thing, moscow mayor sergei semyonovich sobyanin also actively supported him position was very weighty for making

such a decision. let's work together and see. can we go on this is what concerns products, sugar, sugar content, containing as under excise goods , of course, no cafes, no catering, no hotels should not be limited because of this , support what you said is necessary in this sense, make appropriate changes to rather than restrict. uh, so, well, a change in the tax code should be made, respectively, i will ask the ministry of finance and colleagues. work and do this is in the near future, so that, including support measures, they would continue to use, which means that these enterprises are state-owned, but according to the ausn. you mean an optimized simplified taxation system, in particular, we are talking about an experiment that is being conducted in four regions. these are moscow , moscow region, kaluga region and tatarstan. i know it's very good. uh,

this experiment is going on, but here, by analogy , self-employed. and everything needs to be done very carefully, and first of all, including not raising it, then the administrative burden on entrepreneurs, on the contrary, is minus 10 in the form of reporting and simplicity today. this is a very important factor, but readiness here, i guess i'll ask the hand of analogues of the service. yes, not ready to spread to the whole country when it is ready, if i may . we just do it , we think it's realistic to do it. and in fact, such a bill is already with the ministry of finance, we are working on the second question regarding whether it is possible to enter into ah, this mode is it, if hmm now you can enter only on the first day, and then you wait the whole year for the next period technically. we have prepared for this, if the ministry of finance is made and the government thinks

of such a decision, then it is possible to implement the third one, as for expansion, we are also technically ready, as an option. this is up to the decision of each individual region. if the region decides that they need it, then, accordingly, maybe, i think , starting next year, you can start next year, yes, then let's take as a basis, let's take what we we are discussing and i have a request to reflect such proposals in the protocol and work it out accordingly, e. i think that well, sen will help very seriously. uh, well, up to five employees 60 million rubles. whether there is a lot there is not enough for the regions, these are sufficient means of turnover in order to start their own business, especially for young people. we also have a lot of programs that the same smart guy operates. yes, and support, and a student startup is all elements of growing a business, and then one way or another, well, how to do it more, uh,

serious ones are not necessarily large ones, but such elements will help to grow to serious values. thank you. and the floor is given to nikita igorevich danilov and the early director of the slideron, please, dear fur vladimir dear colleagues. my name is nikita danilov, i am the founder of the legendary director, and mao is a technology company, whose company is a developer of digital services for organizing the flight of unmanned aerial systems, including communication. operators with authorities and as shown 2022, and after the departure of foreign digital platform services. we, just small companies , ensured the continuity of the process, and thereby, in fact, laid, probably, some such basis for sovereignty, and the digital sovereignty of the russian federation in terms of software. we are sincerely grateful to the government for paying attention to new technology

companies. we know about the draft law on the development of technology companies and the formation of the registry. a-a company similar to us will allow in our understanding quickly move on to those targeted, and support measures that technology companies need in the first place, mikhail vladimirovich would like to draw attention to the fact that often our software is unique and procurement legislation does not always allow us to offer it for a year of purchases. a state customer, but they don’t know us, because a-a. we, in fact, develop the offer ourselves, and at the same time, government customers will often duplicate orders for similar software. therefore, if it would be possible to envisage, within the framework of changes in procurement legislation, the acquisition of small companies from the company. e technological, and software for government needs - this would greatly help us, and

develop further, and increase that staff to retain existing staff. well, to have some perspective in the development, including our products, but i would like to pay attention to the measure of support in the form of grants. we are extremely grateful. last year we were grant recipients from the innovation fund. however, i would like to tell you about the issues that are usually associated with e grants - this is reporting on the use of the grant, so often labor costs range from 30 to 50% for the formation of reporting formally. we have moved away from paper, but at the same time realistically. we have not switched to digitalization of this process, so we would very much like to have an electronic form of the procedure as a single procedure. well, including, but still report on grants in numbers, which will greatly reduce labor costs, of course, the software is still

associated with cyber security. and now it has become more and more relevant for a small tech company. this is a rather time-consuming and costly process. therefore, we would greatly reduce our costs if there were a unified approach and some kind of digital environment, testing and implementation of information security requirements. this would allow us to comply with the requirements that the state will develop and then apply our own for support , including for the state customer. well, of course, but do not spend money on passing cybersecurity testing everything is fine with me yes nikita says, thank you, the question is very important and difficult on the one hand. really. yes. er, small companies can make excellent and user-friendly software, but here the testing system translates the digital vita of reliability, including cybersecurity issues related to software reliability in general. it is necessary to discuss

together with the ministry of figures, unfortunately, there is no one of our colleague figures here. not present yes, uh i'm such an errand for i’ll give you the results of today’s commission so that we can look at the issues that you mentioned together with you, and colleagues, and it’s important , of course, it means here to work out in detail the issue of transferring such a procedure to electronic form and subsequent reporting on labor costs, what you said surprises me a little 30-50% is a lot. that is, if you considered such labor costs, somehow directly calculated, yes, we directly increased even the staff last year in order to generate your reporting, which was required. that is , it is necessary to look at the developers. this the problem is that i’ll tell my colleagues right away that i don’t like it. this is an absolute lack of formalization of the reporting requirements, which our sectoral departments can manage, so whoever writes as he wants, we need to do this. you know that dmitry yurievich is starting to do this. it is necessary, of course, to try to make a single pattern, although there are

nuances, and depending on the type of activity, yes, and from, among other things, possible harm, er. no, people's health. so you say, you represent the flightron company, yes, so to speak, well, there are a lot of questions here about interaction with air traffic management from the federal air transport agency with the ministry of transport and much, much more, including with law enforcement agencies. therefore, we will need to think in this sense of how to formalize reporting. well, in general , i understand reporting, crimea it has always been difficult, so we will try to do our best. and i will ask you not to tell the problem in general about how you see these opportunities. you can do it right here. e optimization. eh, engineering of these processes, how would you see it and ask her to introduce dmitrievich grigorenko, so we’ll do it right vladimirovich. just do it as much as possible

gennadyevich we have one window and this is our ministry of economic development that you wanted to add something. yes, and that means u on u interaction, which means it is connected with including, but the subject part, what you said about, and also we will ask myths to consider your proposal. well i agree that of course when there are no gar-managers and when uh a fairly high threshold for entering into work with state bodies. uh, sms, it's harder to work with, but the solution can be effective. we need to think about it. thank you again mikhail vladimirovich thank you, uh, please. ah. deryabin alexander evgenievich founder llc tsentrlogas yes good afternoon mikhail vladimirovich dear colleagues. and i've been for 14 years. i am developing it as a center of additional education for children, today we have, branches are opened in the city of omsk, in the city of

yekaterinburg, we are planning in the near future access to the new region and, more than 10,000 students have completed our courses and the team today is about 100 people and in 2021, together with my colleagues in the field of russia, i participated in closed testing by the rf platform then we designated for colleagues. uh, the most difficult bottlenecks. it can be in business support - it is to collect all the data , all the information about support measures somewhere in one video. this was a big problem for entrepreneurs, we noted difficulties. for example with preparation of documents. i recently discussed with colleagues that i think 86 percent of smes are enterprises with up to 10 million turnover, of course, this is a company that cannot maintain a staff of lawyers. uh, so some basic documents that the state requires from us, again, have. uh, here's the opportunity to have it on the platform. and today i would like to note that the resource is really developing and the basics of doing business. there we see today and just the

document constructors, which i spoke about, uh, applications for concessional funding. you can apply very conveniently and i hope that in the near future we will see that there is an opportunity for microfinance organizations for state microfinance organizations according to the same standards, and to submit an application to apply for these deputies today the service is in demand, but it requires a large number of registration documents, and not always our entrepreneurs. this is understandable. probably, there is something else i would like to note, e.g. the russian federation today has precisely implemented a single window for the regional world. support. we them we get there regularly, we see i conducted a survey within our community about 80% are aware of the platform in general and about 40% have already received support measures through smes. rf therefore, in principle, the figures are good, uh , the platform has data about us as enterprises, the so-called digital profile due to which we are able, firstly, to submit fewer documents . they already have these documents uploaded there. but secondly, for us, uh, very convenient. this is when the system itself shows. what are the support measures? what kind of support do we

how can entrepreneurs count on the basis of, respectively, the data that she sees about us through, uh, these here. uh, through this digital profile, therefore, such proactive proactivity of measures, support is very cool, of course, well, i said about the pluses. yes, a little, probably, about development. i would also like to note, to still like to see on the platform as well. of course, the data is already there, as i said, but the data is not for all , let's say, not for all those bases that the state definitely has today loaded there. well, for example , employee data, uh, license premium tax data. the same ones that the company already has. mm, of course, if all this also appears on the platform, firstly, fewer documents. will have to arrange. that's great as well, but secondly, here's that very proactive support measure. i believe that the more data, the more the system will be able to select and, uh, support measures for us. it will be good. and today, this question was also raised by colleagues. i want to focus attention, just the other day we were going to entrepreneurs with my business with our omsk regional met

to discuss support measures again the issue of a large number of federal support measures that are not on the platform today . the ministry of agriculture has already sounded today. here are the entrepreneurs. there is interest in these support measures, but , accordingly, for now, here is such a convenient platform and convenient entry. how uh uh with the regional support world no frp today even thought about grants sounded this is all that what entrepreneurs can count on will, of course, be very cool. if after some time we will see all this, uh, within the framework of one to us. thanks good suggestions. here i am, uh, at your suggestion, i’m sitting and thinking about it and i understand that it is precisely the possibility of expanding the presentation of digital profile data at will, so to speak type e solution, and the very subject of small and medium-sized businesses, which will be combined with a projective service from the state upon presentation support. it will be a very good story. precisely according to

desire. that is, if a medium-sized enterprise is ready to expand the profile , then, accordingly, it will need to be completed on the appropriate platform, and the client path along which benefits will be automatically provided, because there is not enough information there. i am sure that the german colleagues will be interested in this, because the platforms that are being created to help small and medium-sized businesses, moscow is also doing its own uh, well, enriched programs to the federal ones, so it will be a very good idea. i'm asking just like that order to record colleagues. let's work on the corporation for small and medium-sized businesses, so that they also report at the strategic session, so to speak, about a possible regime. i understand that you are ready for this. yes, so to speak, we already have some of the information that made it possible to provide targeted support now, and thank you very much for this opportunity, it is the numbers and the federal tax service a that are, but the stages of development. in fact, you ordered it to be done. we

will work it out with the fns. yeah okay, and uh, also uh second part. please remind you they said at the end about, well, i mean, sectoral, but more regional or federal measures too. well, as i understand it, federal support measures, which, among other things, pass through the region. well, actually the idea, what idea is to have in one place, of course, all the support measures that you can get friends are a very important issue, of course, without a doubt. need to do it. this is a question for the government. we'll take care of it. i now want us to form, appropriate instructions, and formalize all the opportunities that the sectoral ministries, departments of the federal executive body can provide to small and medium-sized businesses and do it , well, let's say in a simple client way. uh, by way of the platform msp. so, the only thing that is immediately necessary to think

about here is a very high-quality interface. to complicate it very much, because the complication of the platform and such devatives are from, uh, ideas from everything. eh, set. eh, entrepreneurs will confuse. here it is very important on the other hand on the reverse do testing on the client path and on the comprehensibility of this anton andreevich is not just looking at you, let's organize testing. and in that sense, you could organize. well, colleagues governors here ruslan is a multifaceted colleague of a slippery governor, and, uh, it means, naturally, this is not difficult to do. this is so that the feedback is constant, because today this is what i saw and today i will tell you honestly in the morning, but i spent a lot of time on the new platform on msprf. honestly, i liked it. i say, it 's not from my position was from the fact that the screen

forms are built in a completely different way. approach neatly everything is done and simple, that is, you can immediately. about the prioritization of life situations, to find it and that means to find what is needed and most importantly, this is what business is probably interested in - these are , first of all, support measures related to benefits with subject benefits, municipal and regional. a and. uh, of course, including large lending support enterprises the opportunity to find a mentor much more. i'm not going to list means 20. well, just e services that are online, including registration. so it's very important. eh, your opinion, dear colleagues, are we overdoing it in a good sense of the word, in general, technologies should be simple and this, well, the word simply does not mean. uh, it means, uh, that it is defective, which means that it should be clear how to work with this and here, i would ask antonovich of you colleagues. give feedback but formalize everything

possible support measures that are from our federal agencies, therefore the authorities. ready