tv RIK Rossiya 24 RUSSIA24 May 31, 2023 11:30pm-11:50pm MSK
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shinsky and this program is a typical novorossiya , our name says it all, we are talking about the territory that has returned to its historical roots with the help of a careful look at history. we will try to reveal the originality of her present day, find both typical features and recognizable signs of the past. and that's what we'll talk about today. children of novorossia, who and why is speculating on their destinies? how to help those who grew up in the war a conversation with an expert of the program of the republic during the civil war, the traditions of statehood in novorossia with me a well-known poetess from donetsk and a mother of two
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children, anna revyakina, said a phrase about the children of donbass, which, due to its paradox, will forever remain in memory. she spoke during the war. she grew up a very musical generation, these children have excellent hearing for the sound of shelling. they easily distinguish between calibers. shooting directions and orients how dangerous it is childhood in the war. this is the reality of novorossia today, the terrible statistics of child deaths and previously not in the donbass, first fighting, actions in the dpr killed 128 children 544 the child was previously in the lc, 39 children. killed 160 injured we are talking about officially confirmed deaths, in reality, the total number of victims may be higher a year ago in 2022
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, the head of the donetsk people's republic denis pushin signed a decree establishing a day of memory for the children of those who died in the donbass during the war, it is celebrated on july 27, they were very concerned about the fate children of novorossia, only in 2023, not so long ago, in a document distributed by the united nations , facts were collected by the ukrainian authorities about allegedly nineteen and a half thousand ukrainian children forcibly removed from the territory of novorossiya. these data became the reason for the issuance of arrest warrants by the international criminal court to the commissioner for human rights maria lvova belova and the president of the russian federation vladimir putin to take such actions calmly, especially knowing the statistics of child deaths in the donbass , it is impossible for children from novorossia a year ago,
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they really were taken out in mid-february before the start of a special military operation. when the number of attacks from the ukrainian on the other hand, they were evacuated together with their parents from the dpr and lpr to the russian federation , among them were about 2,000 pupils of republican, grandfathers, who were placed in children's institutions in other regions in russia under guardianship in foster families. the russians were arranged 380 children from the dnr and lnr. in october last year, the authorities of the kherson and zaporozhye regions already organized the removal of children from the frontline zone to the crimea and the krasnodar territory announced the evacuation due to increased shelling by the armed forces of ukraine all children went with parental consent and their written permission. lvova belovaya
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, in total , more than two and a half thousand children were evacuated from the danger zone of two regions. now they have returned home; the last ones arrived back in april of this year about why in kiev it is so easy to speculate on the fate of children in arms and what awaits them this summer in the story of anna efimova , the long-awaited goal of sasha misha managed to miss home. for almost a year they were away from my mother, it was scary , i was very happy when i first moved here with my mother. everything is quieter here. yes, it is very quiet, and i was glad, because there is a garden and dogs, when a family began to fly regularly in the kuibyshev district of donetsk. first, i changed several apartments, then they moved away from the city here to a dacha that was not at all suitable
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for wintering. and in april last year , the children's mother decided to evacuate them to a safe region in russia, since it was still the school year. they went to school there food was six times a day there . and then in the summer they were still taken to the sea for a month. they were in the crimea and put on shoes, because they left in the winter. naturally , they did not take summer things with them. every day they kept in touch by phone, visited sports sections, football, volleyball god, and, of course, managed to find new friends on the front line. moved a little in february. guys. asked back to the still restless no area. well, of course, i explain to them that it would be better for them to be there, after all, there are more opportunities. and don't listen to it all. well, they like houses more, they still feel calmer at home somehow, i don’t know, if it’s relatively remote from donetsk villages
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, really quieter, the city itself is regularly shelled by the armed forces oleksandr kravchenko, professor at the department of traumatology orthopedics of the donetsk national medical university , shows damage that hospitals received during the next arrivals , ours suffered, flew mainly into the yard. and recently there have been direct hits. one of the shells in the building pierced the roof, but inside is full of children. during the year, according to the doctor, only 122 children were admitted to this hospital, who suffered as a result of hostilities, the maximum number was during the liberation of mariupol volnovakha, and then they began to actively shell, of course, and now the territory of the entire
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distant republic. and then the maximum number of children admitted was precisely because of the increased shelling from the armed forces in the fall of 2022, at the initiative of the authorities. dnr lnr. mass evacuation has begun children since then, the russian regions do not stop accepting more and more new groups. parents. they themselves decided to stay in the war zone or evacuate on the territory of the russian federation from the territory of the russian federation in poland to europe well, it doesn’t matter where, but it was the decision of the parents, respectively, to say that someone stole the children illegally took them out but you understand that this is absurd, maybe absurd, but such opinions are heard by the un tribunes , accusations from thousands of stolen ukrainian children are supported by isolated and very dubious examples in april, nina vlasova, an employee of the armed forces of ukraine, turned to the international community with a request to help her return her minor daughter along with her own aunt
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. fourteen-year-old veronika left the kharkov region for russia at the beginning of her life. the law is impossible so the girl ended up in a shelter. this situation was already under our control at the time of the performance. actually, nina's grandmother was able to come by proxy from her mother, because my mother herself could not do it personally, she was accompanied here with us, and the employees of our apparatus. and we not only helped with the movement with documents to get to the latvian border, where she went further to ukraine, along with her grandmother, but provided everything necessary. in conditions when the front line is constantly changing, evacuation sometimes has to be carried out spontaneously. as it happened with the thirteen-year-old whale of iskupyansk, who studied at a correctional school. boarding mother who visited the child on weekends once again, i couldn’t get to the boarding school, because they blew up the bridge further after
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it got lost. i wanted to be in the basement, there for a month and a half, so i didn’t know anything about the fate of my child. and we found out about my mother when she was already at the border, when she was already working with border services and our public organization gave us information that, and such a mother arrived, and therefore we say that if there are such situations, you, please contact us, because we have built and by interaction we understand how it all organize. why is one important nuance in the case, and the so-called child abductions, is their citizenship. nobody changes it, it is supplemented with the second worse available. there were cases when children were left without parents, such an indicative nine children, a foster family. guardians, leaving their wards, i do not know, it is difficult for me to give an assessment now, because
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there is a human assessment. there is an assessment that we can legally give, well, they themselves evacuated to europe without children, contacted their guardians, gave the children the opportunity to express willingness and desire to connect with their guardians. the mechanism was heavy, it was very difficult, because after all, this is europe. because this is still europe , a lot of appeals from ukrainian refugees have now been poured into the address of the permanent mission of russia to the un, from whom children are being taken away in this very europe on trumped-up pretexts. the case of oksana buratevich is only one of the few in democratic germany who decided that she is not coping with parental responsibilities, as she allegedly incorrectly treats her son for pain and in the stomach with rare meetings of communication without lawyers and carriers in english, which no one really knows and, of course, endless courts. this is discrimination absolutely in our nationality, our our refugees, our
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problems. these people do not translate the court decision to us, this is a criminally incorrect action, punishable by the laws of the whole world, by the actions of the ministry of foreign affairs, not the embassies of ukraine in certain states do not pay attention to this. they're just how low it looks from the outside when you're here blaming the other side. from that saved the children from shelling, that is, the last life, in fact. but at the same time, you don’t want to quarrel with your partners and just turn a blind eye to these cries for help, the coming summer is already the second in the midst of hostilities and the ninth for the children of donbass, many of whom, in principle, during this time did not happen to know what measures their legal holidays. they will go to the sea to the camps nearby, and rest and sanatoriums, to try to forget about the war for a while, because in the summer it's true, a small life. she is ishmolova
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valery savelyev anastasia popova is a typical new russia. about how to help those who grew up in the war, we will talk with our permanent expert on historians and political scientist rostislav. pishchenko rostislav good afternoon. good afternoon, rostislav what happened to the children of novorossia, who actually spent 9 years in war conditions and what happened to those children who lived in the regions under ukraine well, firstly , obviously different things happened to them. not only start depending on where they lived, well, depending on their age, but simply, because a person, uh, remembers what happened if we start from a certain moment in life. if we are talking about children who survived the war, and on different sides or not, fronts, to whom? well, at
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least it was or is now somewhere from five years. and more because those to whom less means, they simply will not remember it or will remember again fragmentary ones, they will not have emotional assessments. they will either listen to their adults, or they will perceive it there from textbooks. yes , there or according to some memories feature films or documentaries who, uh, who's older? yes, the older they are, the more different they will be, because the children's mind is very plastic, very receptive and unconditional. those who uh growth at this time in the dpr and who knew? that they are being shelled and killed by ukraine will never be forgotten in their lives. well, those who grew up, uh , under the conditions of ukrainian occupation and to whom at school it means in the investigations of the mass media , many at home said that
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russia attacked the country and they are defending themselves. so, they are also unlikely to forget. uh, what they were taught. they may then reconsider their duties, after some time now for many e children. today, moreover, as children with immunity from five, up to 20 years old, which means that what is happening now, especially for those who grew up under the conditions of ukrainian occupation, will be a cruel tragedy. for them, this will be a word of civilizational foundations, of what they grew up on, what they were brought up in, but the children of melitopol or donetsk can and should fight against this, but from september of this year they will. study in the same programs, but more recently, uh, in history lessons, they were told completely different, practically diametrically opposed things, what could be done with this. well, i think that the melitopolies in donetsk are half the story. and when the children in
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dnepropetrovsk will start studying. e in russian textbooks. the society itself was much more complicated there. uh, this here, uh, novorossia, yes, the donbass of the south-east of ukraine, it was set up much more russian, really more salesmanly ukrainian, there were, of course, a lot of those who were the pledge of ukraine, yes, but still, exactly, as a public position was not ukrainian, let's say, so these children are still alternatives. yes, they were taught a lot in school. they see and many of them. oh, they were also waiting for release. together with our families, e we though, yes, there will be quite a large number of people that will have to. well, how to get through the scrapping e of their ideas about what is good and what is bad, taking advantage of the fact that after all, public opinion. basically the public opinion of these regions. on our side, it is still impossible to say about all regions of ukraine. yes, it means, uh, it is necessary
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u use this situation to work out. this is such a rehabilitation program, because the difficulties will be great, here are the maximalistic children. many of them have already, by the way , absorbed the program of ukrainian nationalism. so they can be re-educated. that will have to be done so that the children in russia forget the horrors of war. and is it possible to achieve this at all, in principle, and no one will ever forget the war, even smaller troubles people do not forget the memory. no, it won't. the main thing is that it should be traumatic. that is, over time it how the language of childhood must become for them a story from childhood and a pleasantly unpleasantly heroic story. that's pretty much what it means, uh.
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that's because, well, how to try to erase such a piece of life from memory, there are 8 years old, so what's more to do with it? uh-huh, a very difficult piece of life. yes, when they were forced to hide in the basements, when there was not enough food, water, there, it means anything, when the threat of death constantly hung over a person, moreover, it is understandable, there at 5-6 years old. we even see from the interviews that are taken from the children of donbass that they perfectly understand the environment in general in the war. children grow up faster. but, therefore, it is not certain that they will remember all this. uh, the therapy really shouldn't be about them forgetting it. and in order for them, well, as they realized, there are other situations, not only for themselves. well, for the country as a whole, and not only for ukraine, for russia . thank you very much for the interesting story. in
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the history of novorossia, there was a period when various state formations appeared and disappeared on its territory; it was during the years civil war at the beginning of the last century, perhaps the most famous republic of this time until somewhat lopsided at the beginning of 1918. it was proclaimed as an autonomy within the rsfsr. however, a month later it was annexed to the ukrainian soviet republic. then there was the german occupation. after that, the krivoy rog republic was finally abolished in february of the nineteenth year. well, the first republic and soviets in novorossia became the odessa soviet, created in january 1918, its territory covered the then kherson province of the russian empire.
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the republic lasted until march 1918, when german troops entered odessa and had its own republic, and the legendary anarchist nestor makhno had a republic of free soviets with the center of the walk-field at that time in the village of the melitopol district of the tauride province. in the spring of 1918 it was formed in novorossiya. the soviet socialist republic of taurida, with a center in simferopol, it included the lands of the taurida province, the crimean peninsula, and the areas adjacent to the black and azov seas, the republic of taurida, also existed not for long, a little more than a month, but left a bright light on the stormy experience of state building during the years of the civil war in the story of olga mokhova
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on the eve of the february revolution of 1917 , the taurida governorate and this crimea and three more mainland counties was a fairly large territorial administrative unit of the russian empire was famous, she not only with its resorts and winemaking, but also with grain production, the products that were mainly exported at that time about 2 million people lived here, the population motley in every sense, both ideologically and nationally, the russians prevailed, but many ukrainians, crimean tatars , jews, germans and representatives of other nationalities lived through turbulent changes and perhaps even more turbulent than the vast majority of regions of the russian empire. the only thing that unites him is the fear of an explosion of violence. and explosions of violence followed in the winter of 18-18, when there were mass executions and massacres of officers of the black sea fleet. the tauride soviet
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