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[000:00:00;00] shade and solutions to the formation of appropriate conditions for their development of production support, respectively, after-sales service and, of course, one cannot forget about the training of qualified personnel, and we also need a transparent system for assessing the level of technological independence of a critical information infrastructure, independent , including for the heads of federal executive bodies, because of course, when you are responsible for this, you want to make the percentage higher, but regardless of the feedback rating, oh, which always says the president should be here for us, the catalyst for the whole process and the state, private partnership should agree on this independent assessment. at the same time, it is important to synchronize the calendar of transition to domestic products with the schedules for their creation, and here a sufficiently flexible design is needed. for each industry , standard solutions will be determined and installed accordingly. as we agreed on the deadlines for substituting foreign products in them.
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russian counterparts in addition, we have a lot of interesting startups for young and talented guys with ideas. how to optimize production, we give them prototyping grants. well, of course, they need help , first of all, to find a customer, and here i believe that it is necessary to form industry-specific venture funds and remove barriers so that these funds can receive funds from our citizens and companies can freely enter the stock exchange. why the government will, uh, prepare a separate action plan. dear friends , today is a time of unique opportunities and great achievements, i call on everyone act more actively implement the results of domestic research and development passively. now, more than ever, it is destructive and a bold, extraordinary initiative is required
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that will help to achieve a high level of digital maturity in our country in the shortest possible time. and here it will be valuable. the contribution of each of you, and at the same time it is extremely important to be one step ahead in all key areas of industrial development, try not to catch up, set your own standards for technologies, goods and services, defining a new quality of life for people. of course, the purpose of which we must move together with you. during today's plenary session. i hope we will discuss a variety of proposals to achieve precisely the technological leadership of russia and decide. what support mechanisms need to be fine-tuned or additionally launched, we will exchange best practices. i remember very well everything that we agreed on last year here in this hall. that's what we'll talk about. let's start our work. thank you for your attention.
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mikhail vladimirovich thank you for your installation for the session michal densh is coming into the hall traditions will look into the eyes of those who are on stage today, and these are the leaders of russia's largest industrial businesses, our key players. they will talk about the status of implementation, your goals and plans, adjusted for the guidelines that you gave mikhail vladimirovich. by the way, your digital special forces are present in the hall today at this session. this is the head of digital transformation, colleagues from federal regions. raise your hands to make it clear. how many in the hall you see mikhail, not friends. i would say that this is our digital special forces. yes, this is our you special forces you noted that we have 330k. these are 216 projects for 328 billion rubles. and today we will start with those that just demonstrated a quick and start and give results. we start with the shipbuilding industry. it plays one of the leading roles in
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cargo transportation and our industrial enterprises create here a variety of classes. it is clear here that the key player in the united shipbuilding corporation is the one who headed the corporation’s ic in the portfolio of more than 100 projects of military civilian equipment and from light tourist river vessels to heavy class ships and nuclear icebreakers and their creation implies not only design, but also dynamic simulation, as well as the construction and operation management of such a complex facility as nuclear icebreakers. after all, the uk has the only builder of universal nuclear icebreakers in the world. mikhail, you personally examined the nuclear icebreaker. the arctic have seen the scale of the complexity of the project , just such a major player should be the lavender of design, domestic software for ships alexey lvovich you have a big word
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thank you nikolaevich gleb sergeevich thank you very much for the opportunity today to report on the work done. pay attention to the key results of this work, the challenges and problems that we have encountered to date, e is completely formed, and almost all e companies that are somehow involved in shipbuilding have entered into it. that is, it is the army itself with all its twelve design bureaus and sixteen largest ones. these are our colleagues from the design of the far eastern plant zvezda a zelenodolsk plant named after lenin well, of course, not gorky, and of course, uh, our shipbuilding science is the krylovsky research center. and we have attracted developers. you see on the right side of the slide. these are all the key companies for which we have either carried out an additional one. i don’t remember exactly now the analysis according to 59-62 criteria
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in order to determine the level of readiness of certain e-computer solutions and, accordingly , the possibilities, but to implement such a complex e, task as replacing imported programs and, accordingly, the opportunity to give us a new impetus for the design of ships. actually. we are in a difficult situation in the fourteenth year and somewhere at the same time, when the first sanctions against the troops were introduced. we cut off almost all connections with the outside world according to the zoo of computer programs that we had separately. e for underwater underwater shipbuilding, if the military take orders, or civilian equipment, which were everywhere their own. well, let's say, so to speak, specialists or experts. ah, at the same time we have gained a huge number of directories that now belong to us and the tasks that we have set for ourselves. here we presented at this stage. in general, the landscape, which for shipbuilding is the key. and failure to fulfill at least one of these elements.
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e, respectively, or these modules or e, can be called whatever you like, which will form specialized licenses, and in the context of e a specialized license in the context of e, or design or engineering data e, or e, respectively, say issues that will relate to digitalization of production. and this landscape is for us. eh, i'll say it again. the only possible disadvantage for the target implementation. at least one of these elements. well, one of the fulcrums heals us. eh, today. uh, the first and second stages of our work have been formed, first of all, of course, this also applies to computer-aided design of saw solutions and, probably, one of the key aspects that we need to talk about today is the project. e data management, because, well, today nikolayevich was talking about artificial intelligence. and by the way, we have some cool stuff there. development on the engine, but for artificial intelligence
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it is important what is important to it. well, let's just say the volume of the number of textbooks that, in fact, artificial intelligence can process, that is, in other words, without data consolidation, uh, practically uh, it will be almost impossible to implement artificial intelligence in technological, uh, specialization disciplines such as shipbuilding. shown here are the projects first . we stopped after scientific and technical council and to be honest , there was a huge internal struggle that was between the projects of the bureau, for which submarines are made, and those. who makes surface ships. we found a general consensus, a came to the conclusion that we are most satisfied with the company's product and uh, here uh. in general, there will be such, so to speak, a combined design in which everyone will find their own small module. and this, in fact, the program will become the basis of the heavy one on its own. which, uh, we plan to implement accordingly as it
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development, work - it doesn't really start from scratch. we started hmm working with the 3d compass in 1919 and found a lot of holes and inconsistencies. and today we have already learned how to close them in a certain way , which is important for us. the most important thing is that we do not stop at some stage of the first accomplishments of the beta version in order not to get caught later. uh, for such a very important story for us, which is called uh, hmm, final product development. if somewhere there is a bug. uh, it starts in these beta versions, then we didn’t want to redo the whole similar boat. and this is the first block of the second. of course, it concerns, and the industrialization of production and which relate to issues such as management, production , and our warehouses well, for example, in one submarine there are a million 200,000 companies. soviet, respectively, it is absolutely obvious that without digitalization of this data we
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will succeed. it will not work out the question with the calculations based on the product logos. eh, and mmm, respectively, we see further. well by at least in some way such a small middle class with solutions that are being implemented at a few shipyards, i'm finishing, but that we will definitely need, but hmm build up to match large industrial enterprises and complete. uh, we are considering new products in which, uh, which come to us at the central committee, they have one nuance that i would like to discuss today. we are mainly engaged in production, but colleagues come to us who are engaged in operation. and we need to clearly understand this after all, there will be a history of the ministry of transport or it will be a history of shipbuilders who will be responsible for the end-to-end, and the product, including design, including the operation of construction and, accordingly, civilization
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thank you, the report is completed. thanks questions will be at once. first you i remember on the slide you chose three. we said that year, it means ascona, you said about it, it is the top systems and the institute for nuclear research. rather, the logos, probably, yes, we are talking about this more after all, kaev's story, but, probably, it is right to diversify, but why the choice of three or on the slope has already stopped the place. i hear that you have two factories. just. well, let's say no, a single solution. it's hard. it's just that it's very hard for me to invest in such powerful products in three directions. of course, we will not pull up three directions, we will have to stay on one. in the meantime, the usinsk council of the corporation will decide that it will most likely be 99%, because the handle is already on the signing of the contract. i already brought it in. and often technical specifications are developed here in principle important, but in order to still understand.
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how will the architecture of a higher level work, because certainly none of these companies will be enough to cover the needs of all industries, that is, there is a single vendor here. unfortunately, probably not, just not enough people. then you plan and what import products to replace and what terms we expect for the fact that the pilots will begin in the twenty-fifth-twenties , we replace, basically, the rolling building , we replace the faran, we replace the prompter with it, we replace nx where it exists, and from the point of view of calculations, absolutely. this and lsdena means its equivalent. that is, everything that works in calculations by the quantity method. well, i see a top system, here is alexei kurakina on the right, that's it, respectively. sorry sergey sergey a. i have a question about
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a simple geometric rzk when you were in the products of the system. enter this is a difficult story, but without this, no lord rakhmanov , no one else will introduce anything difficult, you can answer. let's challenge the complex kernel write in the world several companies we have taken on ourselves this care, we understand the most difficult projects - yes. creation of a geometric kernel. but we have now picked up a good pace, development earlier. i said the twenty-seventh twenty-eighth year, but due to the fact that the pace of development is quite good. if no one interferes there, then i think that it is possible to shift the deadline, and the geometric creation of the geometric yes to the left, respectively to the left. how much can't i? you see, all the same, there should be specific deadlines. i understand that while we set difficult tasks, i understand, but on the other hand, the troops are
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the largest recipient of the grant, three and a half billion, was allocated for the creation of heavy saratov shipbuilding. but if there are three and a half billion there, we are already helping today, then i need deadlines, like everyone else, we, probably, and the government and the country. that is now the maximum share of support. e. i look at ongoing projects in the field of aircraft construction of an engine on a sled, yes, but in the rocket space industry. in general, the machine structure and of course, and most of it is associated with the development of domestic solutions soprano and why do i say that e we have. well, they are now trying to develop a life cycle support system, but in this sense, we must make constant requirements for implementation all together. we then need to concentrate and then understand who the leaders are first, so to speak, choose from those who are and then go to colleagues. i would like to draw your attention to the fact that a very responsible person would ask for tasks in this sense, well, do not
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play around with the deadlines. excuse such words dmitry nikolayevich thank you. mikhail vladimirovich i think that the speakers mobilized to the utmost now and we are moving on to the next central committee of the automotive industry , sergei anatolyevich gauguin, who managed to gather the efforts of many developers. at the same time , we have two parallel tracks going there. this is competition. we salute you. you have seen one of the solutions of kamaza yourself tested it today, and there sergey anatolyevich please tell us about your results. thank you dear vladimir vladimirovich dear colleagues. many years ago, during the launch of kamaz production, all automobile enterprises in the country worked, under it the solution was one terrain. with the advent of the market , car companies began to move along independent trajectories. and it wasn't anything special or anything. well , it so happened that part of the enterprise remained russian, while in the passenger car business we passed under global corporations, where
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there were corporate solutions. well, in the twenty -second year, a very correct initiative was implemented - the creation of industrial centers to the epicenter and the central committee made it possible to launch the process of a constructive exchange of views between the mobile enterprise and the search for mutual acceptable solutions. the past year has been mainly devoted to the tasks of maintaining the stability of the system for the continuation of work. this task was successfully solved. uh, over the past year, we've made landscapes. have you determined for which classes of solutions and in which areas we do not have domestic products? we agreed on who could act as a developer and customer for consolidating requirements. the main difficulty in the development and replacement
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is the caucasian system, as well as pdm-systems, the system is the process researcher oriented. the industry cannot make the transition from one system. on the other , four product developments are already in progress. the transition can only be done at the beginning of work on a new product. for example, a car or engine any units. in this regard, with all colleagues in the shop, we came to the understanding that the transition to domestic cards will be gradual in the first place. the transition will be carried out for data management processes, in the second turn , 3d models and design will be transferred. documentation regarding such systems, as well as e-e with them, the situation looks much better, since domestic solutions of this
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class existed on the market earlier and are at a fairly high degree of readiness for industrial use. particularly significant projects uic 22-23 in the twenty-second year, the companies included in the vcc launched work on three especially significant projects, it was decided to develop two alternative otechestvenny platforms. how the client of avtovaz and gaz decided to work on the reflection of kamaz as a guardian the system chose the sarus solution designed by the façade, it is obvious that it is not only this year. we have been working since 1920 on this topic in the twenty-third year and the central committee plans to launch three more projects. these projectors are evolving. author 's product lifecycle management systems are the most promising in this area. we see the solution
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of the development of the second nuclear center and the creation of a specialized solution . cars that are being developed new atom companies have agreed to work together in this direction for existing car platforms. these works will be related to the creation of a common electronic architecture responsible for the rights of telematic data and ensuring cybersecurity. well, despite the fact that in the twenty-second year, the topic of import substitution came to the fore for the central committee company , the issue of competitiveness did not go anywhere. to successfully compete with world leaders.
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automotive we must learn change rapidly to create new digital enterprises. we have identified the characteristics of the digital enterprise of the future. which we all need to strive to develop new automotive platforms. the matter is very costly today, but now we do not have time, if earlier we had varnish for about 30 years and 10 years. went to the development of platforms pre- production, then now. this time cycle has been reduced by at least two. ten years no, now we consider 3 years to be the norm. well , from recent visits, vladimir vladimirovich china unfortunately, it is clear that they have already made the glass a year and a half. from the development of smoke introduction, all variants of execution of all modifications must
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be incorporated into the design into the data entry model to the initial design stage, at the same time , the cost of production equipment, the cost of human labor , is increasing while the factories were created to produce a unique product oil. unfortunately , the current state of affairs in the industry needs to be rethought. this probably applies not only automotive industry. in general, all tomorrow's production should be extremely flexible, able to quickly adapt to the order for information systems. this means a significant increase in the importance of systems and a decrease in a significant system. last but not least, perhaps, remember, in this enterprise of the future, the human being must be completely excluded from the process of transferring information to decision-making in operational processes. the task of a person is to analyze , create new processes, sharpen a machine
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, execute processes created by a person. this our request today is a request from the industry to an it-company, which, as we say , the special forces are sitting here without creating tools that will allow me to match the characteristics i sounded. our industry will not be competitive, this is not a question of tomorrow, but of today. thank you sergey anatolyevich thank you about china , we participated in the forum together and visited the people's republic of china . industrial digitalization. they are very advanced in this and scaling. today, the issue has already been resolved for them. and it seems to me that i absolutely agree with you that this
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is the basis of technological sovereignty, which we must do together with you using the acceleration of industrial design of industrial automation on our software. now just a short question after all. you said that you have chosen, but it 's difficult to choose the platform you have chosen has already been chosen. well, you will work with the logo, and then did not fully understand. what products did you choose for kamaz damn, kamaz, we took the sarus logos because of the basic product. yes, and the logos, it makes no sense to discuss it, we are already actively using it. yes, well, then the second point - this is what concerns. e means e atom. today we saw this project because uh, well, let's say what you are doing. it's great that you have your own design, yes, and all your approaches and concepts are new issues. oh design it on
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what. we intend to design the atom on sarus. now, on purpose, or are we we design. eh, intentionally our joint project, and i will keep asking until the end, so you designed today what we saw on the stand together with the german manager who helped you on the old one or after all. i pulled it out of you, but you can make a digital war so that sarov stands nearby and at the same time inspect how it’s done, well , it doesn’t happen differently, but sanctions will correct me later. he understands this better, i 'm here the truth, i do not understand one thing, but did not, but parallel to the structure, so that digital warfare stood industrial grade. we
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we will not achieve this next stage. here we have created an industrial layout. eh, an understandable program, further designing will go to sarus, that is, you promise, of course, so next year, when we get together, we will fix this and ask you how, uh, here. well, in a different way, it means that i know about the choice that you beat, for this they headed the tsyka, but it was hard for the siemens team to hire yes, the former who worked, but at the moment, that's why, it seems to me, they are very important, including private investment. i'm looking at our panelists here have colleagues who can look at investments in any case, and a few of them can definitely help. so, why am i saying, please look, well, obviously, the possibilities, so to speak, are the first car that they make. well, quite uh, that means, uh, in a new way, it is very interesting, including the concept there, like
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this, i am helping you cementovich. thank you . we will remember everything you said, next year we will ask the next central committee, railway engineering. here, transmashholding is the leader in our company, by the way, it has its own dedicated a control to go vendor which is a non -outward-oriented client. this is a great opportunity, dmitry georgievich, please, your work experience, and what are the challenges. good afternoon, mikhail dear colleagues , in the twenty-second year and the central committee considered one application for a total of 10.6 billion rubles following the selection of four projects for 8.3 billion. approved included in the list of especially significant . two of them have already been allocated funding of 1.5 billion. work has begun, this smart diagnostics and digital formular. both solutions will be ready by the year 25 should be, according to at least two other 1d projects and
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requirements management are awaiting a decision on a new financing instrument in the amount of 6.8 billion rubles. and the reasons or approaches were given to tell two projects worth 0.6 billion rubles. weeded out due to the presence of similar solutions in other ics, three projects were not presented in a complete set and the finalized materials were included in the twenty-third year. these are saws. there is an epidemic of separate accounting for the pricing of the two remaining projects for one billion rubles. were pre-approved by the central committee sent to refinement and with a low level. uh, technology readiness projects are now being finalized for 23 years. coincidence has already considered one application, of which six are new, five have been finalized since the twenty-second year four projects have been approved, and four are under consideration and three
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projects have been transferred to the central committee, because this is basically an erp system - this is statistics, and preliminary conclusions of the problem for a year of work with the past from the last cycle. uh, working together with government promo figures and the expert community. we can say that the perception of the situation, uh, strongly has changed formed a common understanding that russian companies today can ensure the uninterrupted production of products using existing russian solutions, well, to be honest, foreign software without support in almost every segment of industrial e. uh, well, there are product offers from 2-3 developers. we tried to portray them somewhere on our own. so it is clear that these decisions. that is, today. once again , for almost every segment that is needed, there are two or three russian developers,
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with which you can already start working today, which means that the solution, of course, requires further customization, but, according to our information, it was removed from the developers. they decide the twenty-fifth twenty-sixth somewhere around the twenty-seventh year. perhaps this is an optimistic statement, but at least such a proposal for today. there is a problem. so, from the point of view of the task set, the complete organization of the industrial inclusion program depends , in our opinion, including on three conditions. first of all, you are already the maturity of the sovereign gland. the second is a stable, working russian operating system. uh, as far as we hear these decisions are planned to be completed around the year 25-26. after that, it is obvious that it will take some time to debug the entire system on a new infrastructure. well, according to our estimates, a completely sovereign system may
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emerge somewhere around 27-28. in parallel , it will be necessary to carry out a very laborious process of transferring the entire array of libraries, established models and data from the old ones. combined with imported systems here in these new developments are from the point of view of the task that was set for complete import substitution, as we discussed it, see inside. eitz camera, separate technical challenge. uh, well, important is the use of a library of data in different formats today within the same system and we see it on the market. well, from the proposals there are two parallel ways of its development. what gives variability in the choice? well, the first is the formation of a single data format between market participants. and we see this process going on today, the company is starting to form this general environment of opportunities using the same standards, and the second is the creation of a single heavy saw is what it does. today. it's just that there is
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