e industries, because without it we will not be able to keep this focus. he will always elude us, he will leave. and, of course, this, uh, business analysis, engineering processes must be built on some kind of unified platform. i mean hmm to discuss and clarify the requirements in this regard. of course we would like to offer. uh, sirius as such a platform for a standardization system and voluntary professional accreditation uh, and in general it will be very precedent for all other industries, because this is an industry very massive at the end of last year, according to e-e data from the government of the russian federation, there is a 63% shortage of personnel in the e-labor market in the field of it and in this regard. of course we need e. hmm, retrain those who are used to working and developing e, foreign e systems, working with vendors that have now come out and

we must turn more and more into such internal engineering centers to support domestic e companies. a. accordingly, we see how many developments. today it is conducted how much they not in demand, we conducted an hmm laboratory of russian it solutions. eh, a special one. er, it means the forum that laid the foundation for the preparation of the wholesale of it-koji. uh, i took the liberty of citing sirius as an example, because sirius has unparalleled, uh legal opportunities for an experiment, and we all need to evaluate this experiment together and understand. can it be further distributed? we are sure that it is possible, therefore, i bring this laboratory of russian it solutions with the support of gazpromneft, as an example of creating fundamentally new very relevant educational programs in the college today. no, uh, i mean, college students getting to know, yes, the most up-to-date it solutions.

eh, today yes, they choose the direction in which they will continue to develop, and they take part, including in the work of these production teams, which are actually forming an order for the next stage of development there. it turns out that new russian it solutions for industries and the economy. and they must also be presented all the time and must be understandable. and, of course, these are the intensives that we, on behalf of the president of the russian federation , vladimir vladimirovich putin, are developing , uh, within the framework of such modules for intensive students, in this case, the instruction concerns cybersecurity. they are becoming incredibly popular. that is, this is just an opportunity to choose motivated, but young people. er, immersing them in our actual context. and it's uh, now, if we plan right now, basicly, this trend will only increase, and it of course, it will give us quick results , we, in the same way

, with our colleagues and with gazprom neft - we did this. as a pilot, we see how much he is now more and more in demand in the regions and industries. uh rzd uh, presenter. uh, the customer is the leading uhm engineering center for approbation of it solution uh 2.000 uit professionals this year will undergo advanced training blood retraining on the infrastructure that we are creating together to improve. uh, the qualifications of already working specialists. and, of course. uh, it must, uh, find all the time here is that infrastructure of its own, which will always take it to the next level. and we do not need to divide this infrastructure into educational and production. we need to bring together specialists of all levels of education and tasks, and most importantly, give these uh, that means both tasks and solutions in the first person, because when we touch on uh,

certification of specialists, we will see that many programs are done in the old fashioned way, they are announced the old way and provided the old way. and, of course, not all e, but active developers are visible today in our universities. and this, probably, is the omission that we now need to correct without fail, because otherwise we will not involve. uh, today's uh, college students in uh, existing developments. they can do it, and again i'm talking about, uh, how great is the motivation, how great is the desire to take part in the national project, developing, uh, open source, developing some kind of solution that will help a really huge amount, either industrial or public problems and uh, in that regard. probably all aspects which are directly related to the quality of training it personnel, e. doctors in every subject and uh, of course, uh. uh, i don't seem to be able to speak to the companies for you, but

it seems to me that without a very active position here, the company can't do that. uh, that is, this is actually a different paradigm of interaction and training of personnel; in fact , each company becomes a production training complex a testing ground. e center, as you wish, yes, performing tasks and high-level consulting, because we have to prepare engineers. hey colleagues. we should be proud and remember that we have the strongest math and computer science programs at school compared to any country compared to any at ib, these are the networks that are generally afraid of physical education and do not consider it. and we, of course, must understand that schoolchildren are that, uh, huge potential that will help us right in a year, two, or three, e. b - these are teachers and children, and perhaps parents who need to understand e trends and this, regardless of the level of education production tasks to be

implemented. here is our daily, industrial pedagogical and any other life, and then we, uh, will also receive qualified personnel. the most important thing is that motivated personnel are now able to do some inconvenient operations, using a domestic ngo, it is possible to do some methodological additional work that has not yet been done, but nonetheless. here i call on to pass such a baton to you, to the leading russian it-companies, so that we, we moved forward in accordance with the tasks that you set thank you thank you very much. thank you , elena vladimirovna. then i'll probably pass the baton to renata abdullina or to try to answer the question. how do we see such processes of active import substitution today and how, accordingly, do you see the participation

of the largest consumers in this process in terms of their interaction with the educational system. among other things, colleagues elena vladimirovna asked, of course, such a very broad framework for discussion, but answering eugene directly to the question about the participants of the collaboration and about the role of each, i would like to tell you that each of the companies present here is the largest consumer of software equipment and has its own work track interaction with universities the company has basic departments in various universities the company there is. your labs are digital centers and affiliate programs and uh, this is an example of a specific interaction between a particular company, an employer, a company, a consumer , software equipment and companies. e, the customer of personnel with the university, but in the form of such an e, point em analyzed

the preparation of those same it-personnel. um, probably today as part of our session. we will be able to talk about the systematization of this work, or maybe fixing some e standard for e, interaction, just the same customers of domestic e, vendors of manufacturers. e, for both equipment and the state, we see today an unprecedented number of support measures for domestic it companies. e from the state and maybe the moment has come when in eh conditions the provision of support measures has shel prescribe. uh, there criteria of clause or commitment. oh, uh, immediately the creation of academic licenses to transfer them to our educational organization universities and in. well, because, and as elena vladimirovna said correctly, u guys, uh, who will soon come

to work in all our technology companies. they need to be prepared, and not only today, but uh, we can say that already yesterday therefore, here is the thesis e about securing e when providing state support measures , the company's obligations, but to issue academic licenses to our universities i think today is very correct and timely. and, of course, cross-industry interaction is known to many of our companies. e, exchange experience in the implementation of their educational programs. universities have internships. in their educational program between universities, and today i cannot help but touch on the next one, which will be held in sirius for mythia students. e in the direction of information security. that is, uh, and i propose to consider such successful examples and well, today they addressed, probably, to alexander vyacheslavovich, as

a representative of the ministry, he will drop only one, but to record such examples and raise them to a systemic level. well, here is a separate track - this, of course, is work with vendors, universities and with the participation of the state. thank you very much, for my part i can say that, of course, we are no longer not denying, but we are all fully involved in our responsibility for changing this world together. uh, starting really from the school bench, because this is a discussion in the russian company was here, to be honest, but now, probably, each of us on stage. i hope those who are present in the hall have no doubts. no, what if we don't integrate into the process of education and work in e our locomotives of the economy with the participation of russian vendors there, of course, e, then it will be difficult here. it is there to achieve joint

success. thanks a lot. fuck, now i'm addressing you as representatives of the developer community itself. first of all software . for example, i'm worried the question that i face today , uh, almost every day, i face it , which means that sometimes, taking into account the large resources there, it is not so easy to do it when choosing the adaptation of software development. and when we say, let's mean a set of domestic solutions is offered to russian colleges, universities, schools, then, of course, the question of systematizing this approach really arises. now, a huge number of developer solutions have appeared. and here, uh, great gratitude should be brought to this community in terms of the fact that there really on academic. even if not until the end in full in the full

topic, the decision in this in our education system. so, after all, the first question is ready in the homeland of hours in order to be an integrated education system. what kind of sub now already exists? what aspect can be? we could extend international licenses to this practice and how the university should decide. on what software is it very yes, so many questions at once hello colleagues. thank you really represent the association. uh, developers are replicating domestic software software, and in fact, there are really a lot of solutions and hmm, they are already provided to the sphere of education on preferential terms, academic license or not, this is actually now, uh, the issue of defining self-determination is quite recent. we just met with representatives of the mines of bar science, where we also discussed the creation of a catalog, and the solution for the education sector and hmm agreed that here we still need to

formulate what it is academic a license to fill this register with uh, domestic software products and uh, universities could get access to them. according to the classes that the ministry formulated there, there are six of them, and we, of course, systematize the activities and information of russian software products. we have associations and our own directories, both in terms of education and compatibility, and this is a replacement where you can find russian analogues of foreign software products that have passed away, and, uh, we are ready to transfer this information to this register being created, and then we have already agreed and will do it, respectively, in one register. uh, in this case, all the necessary things will be created in this case. now, including industry-specific expertise on our part and, e, expertise from the register of the ministry of commissars of figures. yes, respectively, it will be possible for the university to see what the conditions are, what solutions can already be used and how they are used.

the most important. this information will also be there. we just recently entered into an agreement with the federal center. uh, the federal center for digital transformation, just in time for about interaction with it-women, where just tell us where we plan to intensify work to promote russian knowledge of russian software products. here in v, uh, to schools and to schoolchildren, so that they really already go over and know, uh, all the necessary information. well, now we are talking about the fact that we are at the stage when it was already necessary to do this yesterday, but we are moving from foreign solutions to domestic solutions, that is, we are not only implementing and replicating them now. here and but and at the same time we teach personnel to work with them not only users, but also, of course , highly qualified administrators

who knew how to work with foreign software. now they are being retrained and expanding their competencies to work with domestic solutions. okay, thanks. still, i’m so restless, so far, or rather, not concern, probably, but a work plan for you and me together. already achieved together. some success here. alexander vyacheslavovich cannot ask how the ministry of education views these ongoing processes. what are the approaches that need to be adjusted ? federal educational standards for secondary vocational education are not needed, and how do you see what we see today from the point of view of ongoing processes. first of all, i would like to thank you for the opportunity to speak today, namely at this session,

because this is a very important issue. speech. uh, vladimir set a very correct trend related to the development of the spla system. i can't help but support. uh, literally every word spoken, the fact is that most specialists are a-a programmers, namely specialists in working specialties. and this is now precisely the working specialty. of course, i am not talking about our outstanding specialists who train the higher school, and this is how it should be, and this is unequivocal, but the majority. this is what is called in a good sense of the word, i emphasize the artisans of the people for whom this craft in life cook system from the floor, and more than 60% of ninth grade graduates. now, to continue their educational track , they choose the spo system in different areas. and in our opinion. this , of course, is good, but here we must meet the demands that the guys put before us, coming to uh college, coming to engineering. and here i

will subscribe to every word that without close interaction. as it is now fashionable to say collaborations with representatives, and the it sector. well, it's quite impossible to be called like whatever it is and uh, open licenses university licenses, whatever, but uh , guys need to cook on the software that they will then work with, everything is simple for us in this part and uh, the second thesis is, of course, school and career guidance without career guidance. it is absolutely impossible to talk about further development , including the development of the national economy as a whole, because, well, the key point is that we have a number of projects on this issue, including within the framework of the authorization of national projects. today is a colleague. talking about these cubes this is a good initiative for sure. we , uh, can't tell me about the quantoriums, which also made it possible to saturate the education system, but with good equipment, but in past years it often included foreign equipment. we now face a very serious challenge. the challenge associated with the fact that

it must be transferred to the fatherland well, look at the request that we have now , we all see it in the current geopolitical situation related to unmanned technologies. carpenters and all that connected, and this, of course, is a serious challenge, including for the education system. we have with colleagues from the ministry of industry and trade. eat. hey, lots of interesting stuff. eh, and one more moment , one more moment, about which i also cannot look for absolutely signing under everything that was said by colleagues now before me under every word, the sooner we start, the better. the sooner we start, the better , of course, never, uh, and nowhere can a living non- teacher student at school replace, uh, not a single information system. well, there it is obviously, but to use those technologies , those tools that we now have. we are simply obliged to form in the process here and a such developments as the gis my school, which are now being implemented together with colleagues from min digit. in all our schools in our country, this is a sphere, and there are many, many other

interesting approaches. the most important. in my opinion, in this part we managed to make all our schools provided with stable internet connections. i assure you. not every country in the world has one. uh much of the wi-fi in major cities so i think that this is a serious competitive advantage , the groundwork that once again emphasized national projects in past years as part of the implementation, which we now need to use and here for us, of course, the key partners are business, and i want to once again support elena vladimirovna and join her words that only together and only with the provision of appropriate domestic software. we can solve this problem. i understand that there must have been a discussion in the past years, is it worth it is it necessary, but let's look at how our foreign partners work in the past. well, it's completely calm. uh, educational licenses. they are distributed like a fan and in the organization of higher education and secondary vocational education

is done. it's not just done that way. this is not just like that, but with the understanding that they, well, actually hook people around the world on certain software products. well , now in our situation it is clear to us that for us this is a serious challenge and threat, a challenge to our technological sovereignty and let's start from the beginning in school. let's start even better in kindergarten. and to engage in the introduction of domestic approaches and domestic software for domestic products. the sooner you come to this, if it’s necessary for me to go to the state educational institutions, naturally, we are ready to look at this, look at the experience of the professional program, where we actually refused state officials for the right employer at his request. this is the kind of specialist we need within the framework of a tripartite agreement and we will train for production within the framework of the professional program. and this is now, uh, a very flexible position, for example, to suit the needs of certain enterprises, including the defense of the industrial complex. we 're definitely changing vocational programs even in the fourth year and introducing individual college plans

for many specialties directly and directly to specific even guys a hmm so we're completely open about that. uh, for this work , we are ready uh, it is important to use u now. in my opinion, the possibilities that the current situation has created for us and look at the current situation in any way on the crisis. and how are the impossibilities that we have in our a-a digital industry in order not only to provide us with technological sovereignty, but also to compete for neighboring markets. i am sure that the generation that is now coming, and this schoolchildren are college students. this is already happening in their lives, if we do everything for this. it's probably something like this. i just want a word, if you remove it, do everything really so that from us only depend with you all together to make it happen. thanks a lot. i let nikolay go and i would like to talk about

such technologies of the future, there are end-to-end artificial intelligence, blockchain quantum communications. here is what needs to be done so that we multiply the number of guys who are capable of creating such technologies thank you elena vladimirovna thank you for such an opening of this session. actually, everything was said in this offensive. ah. we uh like house rf work at the junction of uh construction financial technologies. and just this question. e, look very good, a first of all, we are talking about, probably, the most important. you can say, because any technologies that were listed there are quantum blockchain, artificial intelligence technologies, spaceships. it is created by people. yes, and if we start, uh, there really aren’t even schools

, but from kindergarten, but to work correctly with people who will make technologies, then everything is possible, and in fact we will be in the first place everywhere, that is, this is the most important because all technology is just tools. uh, what's uh on our mind? uh, well, can u serve as a catalyst? yes this. well, probably the most important thing is to return it. but such prestige is the romance of the profession of engineers, that's in the spirit of such early strugatskys yes , they build such it, triads there are other things, when it will be cool to be an engineer. yes, it will be cool to do mehman. this is one of those directions. pore ​​is very important and which, of course, will lead to the emergence of domestic artificial intelligence there, the second and this is also in our power. and those who here is going to create comfort and motivation. it's a neat tweak to a huge

number of government support programs. thanks for them. give the industry of private initiatives guarantee benefits. yes, this is also very important third. well, this is really seamless training. we conducted an experiment when we started inviting the children of employees to enter the divisions and conduct classes with them on robotic technology. but this is the easiest one. yes, robots are programmed, and then they began to understand that these are the people who came to play robots several times they ask other questions, and then they come up to the screen and start asking artificial intelligence some questions, that is, seamless learning is really from kindergarten. there i don’t know forgotten vocational schools which well, there were excellent refresher courses. and, of course, practice practice. the companies that are present here are precisely the patriotic software . here's what was shown. yes, somehow i programmed this robot, then, then, then you can do it, yes, and then it’s a balance of e, system knowledge and courses, and

certainly need a basic education system, on the other hand. you have to be very careful with the settings. here is such, well, tiktok education in the good sense of the word, which is very suitable for young people and can be used in terms of quick immersion. yes, and the emergence of interest in the profession. here and, of course, do not forget about those technologies that are called end-to-end. here, ah, well, they will appear, if everything is done, what they talked about, uh, before that and the most important thing, it seems to me that hmm, sometimes we forget about this, we need to here just scream and talk. let's have the ambition by making such software products to make such education. so that people from other countries come to us and study with us, you understand, that's when it will be cool. that's already now lay in the training program. that's exactly it, yes, and such a system of integration with

the east yes markets there, and it seems to me that everything will work out then. thanks, i will study. what is tiktok education, how does it feel like i have a gap, uh, in this direction. he probably really needs to look for new methods and models for the guys to get involved , including this one, in romance, i don’t know, these construction teams are also term-interesting, as it were, for me it’s not clear yet. ok thank you very much. let's talk about the experience of gazpromneft, and fortunately , i mentioned the mechanisms of industry partnership or ownership. that's about the experience of sirius. and first of all, what is he like? secondly, what other mechanisms are currently being used. anton sergeevich thank you for your question. and thank you for the invitation to participate in this session a-a changed vladimir thank you for appreciating our

joint cooperation and our experience. in fact, i would like to start with how we came to this and how the gas industry has been working on it for quite a long time. e the issue of continuity in the field and this hell, but in the twenty-second year. we have significantly revised, uh, this activity and a came to the creation of a technology sustainability strategy. now i'm going to education. uh, i just wanted to note that, and you can separately deal with it separately, and the reliability of failure is resistant to disaster sustainable i'm talking about the technologies of the t series and of course. we deal with the issues of import substitution, where one software product replaces one piece of equipment for me with another. import-independent, naturally, a separate issue is cybersecurity, and within the framework of the technological sustainability strategy, we have come to the conclusion that we need

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now we are returning to st. petersburg, where the international economic forums are taking place. my colleague works there for lazarev, she word again to you. hello colleagues, once again really. now our guest is pavel kosov, ceo of rosagroleasing, pavel nikolayevich